"Our community team is pretty pissed at me, so I most assuredly won't do this again."
Huffman might not know it, but hes just torpedoed reddit as a source of valid independent discussion by exposing the ability to not only edit posts he didnt author, but to inject a political message in his favour. Im sure Stalin is applauding from beyond the grave.
this device exists solely for internet.org, zuck's imperialist project to bring internet to india through facebook. Among questions still unanswered:
1. why are you continuing to insist on this if India itself has flatly refused this "branded internet" thats contingent upon your social media site
2. How will you fly drones in foreign airspace without the consent of a host country?
3. How do you justify brining internet to countries like Malawi, Zamibia, and Angola when a grain shipment or food programme would do far more to improve the lives of these people than another American drone?
4. Egypt and South Africa already have high-speed internet available to the general public. did you forget this? or are you just trying to erode public investment in open and neutral networks?
1. This is the embrace phase. begin screaming into your keyboards now.
2. Newly deceased members of Hell will find new ice-skates and ski shoes waiting for them.
Tesla software is highly proprietary. You pay for every perk such as performance upgrades or autopilot and much like an iPhone youre entrusted to assume it "just works." the major difference being that when your iphone crashes, it doesnt kill a car full of people in front of you.
unless you can see this software, test it, review it and make your own modifications to it you're essentially assuming the marketing department at tesla is correct. We had this argument in computing for 20 years, we still have it today. Without knowing what the source code is, you just have to reboot, retry, and hope the problem goes away or gets patched.
Magnet links should make tracing down this kind of activity pretty difficult. Either companies are honeypotting Bittorrent emissions themselves, which would be entrapment, or theyre just observing over-the-wire for bittorrent traffic and assuming some nefarious activity.
start looking at his party. or at least approach your decision as a reflection of trust in that party. Wallstreet is naive if they slept through 8 years of republican brinksmanship and stalemating and are just now concerned about the state of leadership now that we've elected a tangerine for president.
to put it a better way, look at the bush presidency. Bush was inept, certainly unfit for the role of president. Youd reconsider anyone who told you after a national terrorist event to "go shopping." However as a leader in economic terms, he was sufficient for Wallstreet for 8 years and served diligently to bail out banks and automakers when they asked.
please, end this. I come from a dark future to warn you of dire consequences. In my time, we have invented the tiniest VoCore the size of an eyelash to compete with the tiniest Raspberry Pi the size of a pepper flake. A beagleboard exists thats no larger than a cheerio. The last conference I attended ended in disaster when the presenter accidentally inhaled her RPi cluster and choked to death on a router the size of a matchbook. Things are very grim indeed.
Except for windows 15 users who operate tablets the size of billboards and Mac users who appear to be operating $800 dinner plates full of USB D ports and no screen this year...
The new MacBook Pro is probably great, and most of the initial skepticism probably won't age well.
did you forget it requires an adapter to connect an iphone? apple products arent even technologically compatible with themselves at this point, and its not just the iterative and malicious redesign of 6 generations of power cord were talking about here. no one thought this out.
Having four USB-C ports is awesome.
unless you've real work to do. the future is swell until i need to transfer files to a dead server in the datacenter at 4 AM. Apple themselves hire Linux admins with proficiency in ubuntu. How do we expect to issue this kit to the world that hasnt embraced "bravery" and thrown away every still entirely functional USB device they own?
it's going to take a few more years for USB-C to become so ubiquitous that we can get away without USB-A ports most of the time.
can you commit to an idea? either the USB C format is the harbinger of a new dawn for mankind or we must show cautious optimism and restraint. Steve Jobs could get away with this sort of weasel wording because he stood on stage and appeared like a grand wizard but not you. the truth is apple delt a killing blow to their laptop market with the USB C idea, the AMOLED bar, removing the escape key, and whatever paint-fume induced psychosis goes on in the development labs these days.
Including a port that's still in extremely widespread use isn't an admission of failure or holding onto the past
pastebin, gitlab, github, gogit, gerrit, and a myriad of other programs should exist to help the programmer! chat is for chat...code collaboration should have its own dedicated ecosystem.
disclaimer: I am a greybeard admin in a dark cubicle in the basement.
those who fail to understand *NIX are doomed to reinvent it, terribly. we have had powerhouse collaboration tools like IRC and jabber for decades now. Yet for some reason, in this foul year of our lord 2016, most admins do nothing more than cash a fat paycheck and install the latest vendor bloat. Whatever it was some C level or director saw at an airport billboard, or got stuffed into their carry on luggage during a gold course trade show, thats what we're punished to deploy and I for one am sick of it. Im sick of this cycle of endless corporate garbage that tries to re invent the wheel with more buzzwords.
your collaborative tools should do one thing and do it well. you should spread the risk of outages by avoiding a single tool, not embracing it. And i cant believe im saying this, but in 2016 you should not be paying for voip or chat in the office.
The woman question --and this event-- are simply misunderstood by the public at this point. The purpose of copyright law and pre-emptive, out-of-court, undocumented and largely unaccounted settlements is to punish the very prevalent threat of geriatrics who pirate legitimate software from hard working wholesome developers. The unexpected quirk here is that this woman has accidentally disclosed what is largely understood to be nothing short of a protection payment.
The new commander in chief will face pressure from foreign entities looking to embarrass them early on
as if systemic racism and poverty, warrantless surveillance, the continued existence of a foreign torture prison, holding 25% of the worlds incarcerated, an openly corrupt presidential candidate with a rigged delegate process, a complete mistrust of the concept of climate change, a guerilla war machine directly resultant from two failed wars of interventionist policy,
two back to back government shutdowns
a complete inability to elect members to its supreme court
and a secret drone-war werent enough to discredit the mere idea of American Exceptionalism(c), it appears as though the haggard burro of liberty and freedom can only be brought to its knees by a "cyber crisis," whatever the hell that could be.
emails show in great detail how Russia controlled virtually every detail of the separatist effort in the Russian-speaking regions of Ukraine,
yes, because youll need the assistance of the country to which your people wish to defect in order to achieve anything. its unfortunate that the country split like this, but NATO isnt entirely faultless in this. by encouraging aggressive expansion contrary to post world war 2 agreement it gave a lot of crimeans good cause to be afraid.
which has torn the country apart and led to a Russian takeover of Crimea...
and done an excellent job to prevent western powers from expanding NATO into an oil producing country rich in natural resources. the difference is a hacking group in the Ukrane exposed what everyone knew to be true: logistics, supplies, tactical and political guidance was coming from the kremlin in order to secure a defecting minority province. this was the pretext similar to both the US wars in Iraq...liberation and the support of a minority anti-government group. In the case of the US hack, the american people were made to know that which they had no idea. American voters were shown that Bernie Sanders had absolutely no chance of a fair election, and that the political party loyal to clinton was doing everything from influencing coverage at sites like Facebook to outright spinning at major news outlets to cover up an email scandal that for any other american would have been a multiple life-term felony (chelsea manning for example)
we had something similar to this in the late 90s when kickpress workers and fabricators were starting to get replaced by multi-axis milling machines and fluidform/laser. almost overnight we had a crisis where we needed more people who could do CAD/CAM, because while im sure managers saved a bunch of money handing out pink slips to the line workers they were losing a hell of a lot of money on trying to find a good desk jockey who didnt crash tools and wreck parts every hour. Management offered hundred dollar bonuses if we could convince someone to join the team and this worked for a while until someone started complaining about diversity and asking why we didnt have it.
we didnt have black or latino CNC or SPC guys because most of them never saw a promotion. Its not racism --nobody was yelling bigoted obscenities-- but the managers in charge of lining up bonuses and promotions came from an ancient era where brown people were still some subset fraction of an actual person. the ones that got promoted didnt see much of a raise either, at least at the North Carolina shops i worked at. When the diversity hammer started to swing too close to the portly boss-types, they made excuses until retirement. Either they promoted a hard work ethic, or they were trying to drive cost.
and women? we had women but they were all in the office stamping paychecks and handling HR claims, or in shipping. we had welders, good female welders, but management fired them once we started shipping the parts to missouri, then mexico for final weld. The management came down hard on us for creating hostile work environments, and sure in some cases that was true. The worst shop i was in had 3 sexual harassment meetings in a year. But to tell the truth, it was probably the pay or the fact that if you left for maternity, you usually lost your job. I worked at a place that ran an entire diversity job fair for a year before realizing the factory area we worked in never had a womens locker room, so incompetence can certainly be attributed..
but programming? what barriers exist? i mean christ its every day im online seeing courses or classes, or getting some handout from a government agency that encourages me to take a spreadsheet class or something. programming is an office job; is an office a hostile workplace?? why is it so hard to just give someone the damn job so long as they have enough sense not to chooch up the work? why is there a percentage to achieve?
4.8 is a large step, however ive compiled a list of migrations for major distributions Ubuntu: apt-get install...wait...apt-cache update && apt-....isnt there a widget? ignore the update its probably already happened or systemd already did it... fedora: in the dark ages, 40 minutes ago to be precise, this old kernel called 4.8 was often said to be the next version. youre currently on Fedora 23, so in the next 11 minutes once youve upgraded to fedora 29 you'll be patched for the upcoming vulnerability in kernel 6.0. Slack: 2.4 booted just fine this morning and the coffee is already done so no time for compiling some new fangled bullshit from the "hyperlink" transport protocol. lets load up some gopher and call the cops, those kids are getting a little too overambitious with the pokemon GO at the park down the street. Gentoo:...hey did you see arch wrote a really good doc on upgrading? Arch: finish the doc for gentoo guys theyre almost done compiling userland. BSD: load up nethack, queue something up on MPD and lets wait for this whole cow fiasco in Linux land to blow over.
Among the more serious exploits ive encountered, i must protest that "dirty cow" is not a sufficiently spooky enough name for this one. We all know Halloween approaches, so why not call it haunted cow? or zombie cow?
in addition, this exploit is far less severe than the shoulder surfing exploit of 2005 which resulted in direct root privilege access and a broken friendship, Margaret, that led me to conclude I could no longer trust you to use either the mini fridge or my Sriracha sauce anymore because friends dont just log in to anyones workstation Margaret, i trusted you and you deceived me.
Here in the UK we've taken into account internet for those unfortunate souls who may have had such access terminated in their home or residence unexpectedly. If you've recently experienced this issue, say, at the hands of an embassy or rather during, say, a political asylum against a rather simple investigation that is in no way a witch hunt with the potential to result in extradition to an island torture camp, the UK government has a solution.
simply leave the embassy, and walk directly toward the van marked "Internet." We're also offering free stainless steel bracelets to the first customers.
Speaking as an admin, the number of mac users that request elegant peripherals is not trivial. Magic mouse? if one guy on the floor got one, youre dropping $80 a piece to make sure all your mac users get one. wireless headphones? sure hes the only guy in the office with Beats by Dre but pad your budget because everyone will want them at $300. add up all the magic trackpads magic keyboards and magic fuzzy accessories the average user wants and it starts to rival what you paid to buy and image a Dell. and if things ever get too hairy for a dell, your restore process is entirely automated in windows or linux. restoring a mac is nothing short of corporate witchcraft.
and remember, your fanboi doesnt want a used magic tracpad...he wants a new one.
using copyright as a friendly kudgel to silence "creative" speech online is a time honored tradition embraced by some of the largest multinational media companies in the world (AKA your friends.) But remember, its only successful when youtube posters remember to cower in fear, recoil in shame, and sink into remorseful consumption of approved content and products offered through their favourite online vendors and endorsed by their favourite super celebrities and brand icons!
Never use the tools provided by Youtube to challenge your DMCA takedown, and whatever you do, try to ignore the crushing blowback of the Streisand effect that inevitably comes surging through online media outlets --seemingly unstoppable in its pervasiveness-- in response to friendly DMCA takedown notification. Surely a nasty review or, heaven forbid, inventive online gaming content, wouldnt be instantaneously copied, shared, and disseminated endlessly online as a response to whats widely perceived as an "abusive cabal" of "predatory media conglomerates"
When stanford does it theyre being progressive and advanced, with newspapers calling them "brilliant" but when i do it im being "unprofessional" and "dangerously irresponsible" with nothing more than a bystander or two remarking that ive "flooded the bathroom" with a "wad of paper towels in the sink." Some appreciation for showing you the ocean of the future on the fourth floor near the copier.
Slashdot Mirror
"Our community team is pretty pissed at me, so I most assuredly won't do this again."
Huffman might not know it, but hes just torpedoed reddit as a source of valid independent discussion by exposing the ability to not only edit posts he didnt author, but to inject a political message in his favour. Im sure Stalin is applauding from beyond the grave.
this device exists solely for internet.org, zuck's imperialist project to bring internet to india through facebook. Among questions still unanswered:
1. why are you continuing to insist on this if India itself has flatly refused this "branded internet" thats contingent upon your social media site
2. How will you fly drones in foreign airspace without the consent of a host country?
3. How do you justify brining internet to countries like Malawi, Zamibia, and Angola when a grain shipment or food programme would do far more to improve the lives of these people than another American drone?
4. Egypt and South Africa already have high-speed internet available to the general public. did you forget this? or are you just trying to erode public investment in open and neutral networks?
1. This is the embrace phase. begin screaming into your keyboards now.
2. Newly deceased members of Hell will find new ice-skates and ski shoes waiting for them.
Continue to ensure Slashdot upholds the highest standards of news for nerds by reposting the same story over and over again.
this may also have been the cheapest superfund site taxpayers had to clean up, as it required removal and burial of the shed at just $60,000.
Tesla software is highly proprietary. You pay for every perk such as performance upgrades or autopilot and much like an iPhone youre entrusted to assume it "just works." the major difference being that when your iphone crashes, it doesnt kill a car full of people in front of you.
unless you can see this software, test it, review it and make your own modifications to it you're essentially assuming the marketing department at tesla is correct. We had this argument in computing for 20 years, we still have it today. Without knowing what the source code is, you just have to reboot, retry, and hope the problem goes away or gets patched.
Magnet links should make tracing down this kind of activity pretty difficult. Either companies are honeypotting Bittorrent emissions themselves, which would be entrapment, or theyre just observing over-the-wire for bittorrent traffic and assuming some nefarious activity.
this is also called the 11/11 day sale (single digits) and largely affects http://aliexpress.com/ a competitor to amazon.com
start looking at his party. or at least approach your decision as a reflection of trust in that party. Wallstreet is naive if they slept through 8 years of republican brinksmanship and stalemating and are just now concerned about the state of leadership now that we've elected a tangerine for president.
to put it a better way, look at the bush presidency. Bush was inept, certainly unfit for the role of president. Youd reconsider anyone who told you after a national terrorist event to "go shopping." However as a leader in economic terms, he was sufficient for Wallstreet for 8 years and served diligently to bail out banks and automakers when they asked.
please, end this. I come from a dark future to warn you of dire consequences. In my time, we have invented the tiniest VoCore the size of an eyelash to compete with the tiniest Raspberry Pi the size of a pepper flake. A beagleboard exists thats no larger than a cheerio. The last conference I attended ended in disaster when the presenter accidentally inhaled her RPi cluster and choked to death on a router the size of a matchbook. Things are very grim indeed.
Except for windows 15 users who operate tablets the size of billboards and Mac users who appear to be operating $800 dinner plates full of USB D ports and no screen this year...
The new MacBook Pro is probably great, and most of the initial skepticism probably won't age well.
did you forget it requires an adapter to connect an iphone? apple products arent even technologically compatible with themselves at this point, and its not just the iterative and malicious redesign of 6 generations of power cord were talking about here. no one thought this out.
Having four USB-C ports is awesome.
unless you've real work to do. the future is swell until i need to transfer files to a dead server in the datacenter at 4 AM. Apple themselves hire Linux admins with proficiency in ubuntu. How do we expect to issue this kit to the world that hasnt embraced "bravery" and thrown away every still entirely functional USB device they own?
it's going to take a few more years for USB-C to become so ubiquitous that we can get away without USB-A ports most of the time.
can you commit to an idea? either the USB C format is the harbinger of a new dawn for mankind or we must show cautious optimism and restraint. Steve Jobs could get away with this sort of weasel wording because he stood on stage and appeared like a grand wizard but not you. the truth is apple delt a killing blow to their laptop market with the USB C idea, the AMOLED bar, removing the escape key, and whatever paint-fume induced psychosis goes on in the development labs these days.
Including a port that's still in extremely widespread use isn't an admission of failure or holding onto the past
but you just implied it was, asshole.
pastebin, gitlab, github, gogit, gerrit, and a myriad of other programs should exist to help the programmer! chat is for chat...code collaboration should have its own dedicated ecosystem.
disclaimer: I am a greybeard admin in a dark cubicle in the basement.
those who fail to understand *NIX are doomed to reinvent it, terribly. we have had powerhouse collaboration tools like IRC and jabber for decades now. Yet for some reason, in this foul year of our lord 2016, most admins do nothing more than cash a fat paycheck and install the latest vendor bloat. Whatever it was some C level or director saw at an airport billboard, or got stuffed into their carry on luggage during a gold course trade show, thats what we're punished to deploy and I for one am sick of it. Im sick of this cycle of endless corporate garbage that tries to re invent the wheel with more buzzwords.
your collaborative tools should do one thing and do it well. you should spread the risk of outages by avoiding a single tool, not embracing it. And i cant believe im saying this, but in 2016 you should not be paying for voip or chat in the office.
The woman question --and this event-- are simply misunderstood by the public at this point. The purpose of copyright law and pre-emptive, out-of-court, undocumented and largely unaccounted settlements is to punish the very prevalent threat of geriatrics who pirate legitimate software from hard working wholesome developers. The unexpected quirk here is that this woman has accidentally disclosed what is largely understood to be nothing short of a protection payment.
The new commander in chief will face pressure from foreign entities looking to embarrass them early on
as if systemic racism and poverty,
warrantless surveillance,
the continued existence of a foreign torture prison,
holding 25% of the worlds incarcerated,
an openly corrupt presidential candidate with a rigged delegate process,
a complete mistrust of the concept of climate change,
a guerilla war machine directly resultant from two failed wars of interventionist policy,
two back to back government shutdowns
a complete inability to elect members to its supreme court
and a secret drone-war werent enough to discredit the mere idea of American Exceptionalism(c), it appears as though the haggard burro of liberty and freedom can only be brought to its knees by a "cyber crisis," whatever the hell that could be.
emails show in great detail how Russia controlled virtually every detail of the separatist effort in the Russian-speaking regions of Ukraine,
yes, because youll need the assistance of the country to which your people wish to defect in order to achieve anything. its unfortunate that the country split like this, but NATO isnt entirely faultless in this. by encouraging aggressive expansion contrary to post world war 2 agreement it gave a lot of crimeans good cause to be afraid.
which has torn the country apart and led to a Russian takeover of Crimea...
and done an excellent job to prevent western powers from expanding NATO into an oil producing country rich in natural resources. the difference is a hacking group in the Ukrane exposed what everyone knew to be true: logistics, supplies, tactical and political guidance was coming from the kremlin in order to secure a defecting minority province. this was the pretext similar to both the US wars in Iraq...liberation and the support of a minority anti-government group. In the case of the US hack, the american people were made to know that which they had no idea. American voters were shown that Bernie Sanders had absolutely no chance of a fair election, and that the political party loyal to clinton was doing everything from influencing coverage at sites like Facebook to outright spinning at major news outlets to cover up an email scandal that for any other american would have been a multiple life-term felony (chelsea manning for example)
For sale: Pylons! construct them all day long!!
[EXCLUDE: ZERG]
disclaimer: im just a machinist who likes linux.
we had something similar to this in the late 90s when kickpress workers and fabricators were starting to get replaced by multi-axis milling machines and fluidform/laser. almost overnight we had a crisis where we needed more people who could do CAD/CAM, because while im sure managers saved a bunch of money handing out pink slips to the line workers they were losing a hell of a lot of money on trying to find a good desk jockey who didnt crash tools and wreck parts every hour. Management offered hundred dollar bonuses if we could convince someone to join the team and this worked for a while until someone started complaining about diversity and asking why we didnt have it.
we didnt have black or latino CNC or SPC guys because most of them never saw a promotion. Its not racism --nobody was yelling bigoted obscenities-- but the managers in charge of lining up bonuses and promotions came from an ancient era where brown people were still some subset fraction of an actual person. the ones that got promoted didnt see much of a raise either, at least at the North Carolina shops i worked at. When the diversity hammer started to swing too close to the portly boss-types, they made excuses until retirement. Either they promoted a hard work ethic, or they were trying to drive cost.
and women? we had women but they were all in the office stamping paychecks and handling HR claims, or in shipping. we had welders, good female welders, but management fired them once we started shipping the parts to missouri, then mexico for final weld. The management came down hard on us for creating hostile work environments, and sure in some cases that was true. The worst shop i was in had 3 sexual harassment meetings in a year. But to tell the truth, it was probably the pay or the fact that if you left for maternity, you usually lost your job. I worked at a place that ran an entire diversity job fair for a year before realizing the factory area we worked in never had a womens locker room, so incompetence can certainly be attributed..
but programming? what barriers exist? i mean christ its every day im online seeing courses or classes, or getting some handout from a government agency that encourages me to take a spreadsheet class or something. programming is an office job; is an office a hostile workplace?? why is it so hard to just give someone the damn job so long as they have enough sense not to chooch up the work? why is there a percentage to achieve?
4.8 is a large step, however ive compiled a list of migrations for major distributions
Ubuntu: apt-get install...wait...apt-cache update && apt-....isnt there a widget? ignore the update its probably already happened or systemd already did it...
fedora: in the dark ages, 40 minutes ago to be precise, this old kernel called 4.8 was often said to be the next version. youre currently on Fedora 23, so in the next 11 minutes once youve upgraded to fedora 29 you'll be patched for the upcoming vulnerability in kernel 6.0.
Slack: 2.4 booted just fine this morning and the coffee is already done so no time for compiling some new fangled bullshit from the "hyperlink" transport protocol. lets load up some gopher and call the cops, those kids are getting a little too overambitious with the pokemon GO at the park down the street.
Gentoo:...hey did you see arch wrote a really good doc on upgrading?
Arch: finish the doc for gentoo guys theyre almost done compiling userland.
BSD: load up nethack, queue something up on MPD and lets wait for this whole cow fiasco in Linux land to blow over.
can it or can it not predict, say, numberwang?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Among the more serious exploits ive encountered, i must protest that "dirty cow" is not a sufficiently spooky enough name for this one. We all know Halloween approaches, so why not call it haunted cow? or zombie cow?
in addition, this exploit is far less severe than the shoulder surfing exploit of 2005 which resulted in direct root privilege access and a broken friendship, Margaret, that led me to conclude I could no longer trust you to use either the mini fridge or my Sriracha sauce anymore because friends dont just log in to anyones workstation Margaret, i trusted you and you deceived me.
Here in the UK we've taken into account internet for those unfortunate souls who may have had such access terminated in their home or residence unexpectedly. If you've recently experienced this issue, say, at the hands of an embassy or rather during, say, a political asylum against a rather simple investigation that is in no way a witch hunt with the potential to result in extradition to an island torture camp, the UK government has a solution.
simply leave the embassy, and walk directly toward the van marked "Internet." We're also offering free stainless steel bracelets to the first customers.
Speaking as an admin, the number of mac users that request elegant peripherals is not trivial. Magic mouse? if one guy on the floor got one, youre dropping $80 a piece to make sure all your mac users get one. wireless headphones? sure hes the only guy in the office with Beats by Dre but pad your budget because everyone will want them at $300. add up all the magic trackpads magic keyboards and magic fuzzy accessories the average user wants and it starts to rival what you paid to buy and image a Dell. and if things ever get too hairy for a dell, your restore process is entirely automated in windows or linux. restoring a mac is nothing short of corporate witchcraft.
and remember, your fanboi doesnt want a used magic tracpad...he wants a new one.
using copyright as a friendly kudgel to silence "creative" speech online is a time honored tradition embraced by some of the largest multinational media companies in the world (AKA your friends.) But remember, its only successful when youtube posters remember to cower in fear, recoil in shame, and sink into remorseful consumption of approved content and products offered through their favourite online vendors and endorsed by their favourite super celebrities and brand icons!
Never use the tools provided by Youtube to challenge your DMCA takedown, and whatever you do, try to ignore the crushing blowback of the Streisand effect that inevitably comes surging through online media outlets --seemingly unstoppable in its pervasiveness-- in response to friendly DMCA takedown notification. Surely a nasty review or, heaven forbid, inventive online gaming content, wouldnt be instantaneously copied, shared, and disseminated endlessly online as a response to whats widely perceived as an "abusive cabal" of "predatory media conglomerates"
When stanford does it theyre being progressive and advanced, with newspapers calling them "brilliant" but when i do it im being "unprofessional" and "dangerously irresponsible" with nothing more than a bystander or two remarking that ive "flooded the bathroom" with a "wad of paper towels in the sink." Some appreciation for showing you the ocean of the future on the fourth floor near the copier.