This reminds me of the early days of "web services." The "enterprise" folks were jetting around writing gobs of XML and SOAP specifications, making speeches at conferences and whatnot. Meanwhile, some thoughtful people pointed out that the combination of existing HTTP verbs and the natural namespace provided by URLs satisfied the same use cases without the mountains of esoteric specifications and staggering protocol overhead. One memory I have from that time has persisted; some SOAP standards body muckity-muck was asked about REST during some function that happened around the time of the SOAP 1.0 specification release and he said (paraphrased); "Those REST folks aren't the kind of people the get things done!"
Today, SOAP gives people nausea almost universally and REST is the first choice of green-field work, with all sorts of API's proliferating everywhere. New languages and tools target REST first and SOAP eventually. Maybe. And if not then, meh, whatever.
Now we have the Debian fork. And what is said of the people behind it by those advocating systemd bloatware? Well they're just malcontents. They don't understand the problem systemd is trying to solve. They made a crummy web site and didn't even put their names on it. They'll never accomplish anything!
I have the feeling Poettering et. al are going to lose this one. If so then at least we can credit systemd with providing the motivation to progress, and reaffirming some of those cherished (if possibly mythical) UNIX principles.
(Incidentally, if anyone knows who was responsible for that statement about REST I mentioned please chime in.... I'm 99% sure it appeared on Slashdot.)
You have chosen to rationalize the exploitation of Chinese workers, probably using a product you or your employer couldn't afford to purchase if manufactured by someone that shared your pleasant lifestyle. Your rationalization is characterized by one or more of the following possible memes;
[_] Making iPhones in a Chinese factory is better than being a Chinese peasant
[_] iPhones/Pads would cost too much if I had to pay my fellow citizens to make them
[_] iPhones/Pads would cost too much given environmental regulations I vehemently insist on for myself
[X] All the other manufacturers are doing it too
[_] Some/Many/Most Chinese workers appreciate 70 hour weeks and breathing my aluminum dust
[X] It's not Apple, it's Foxconn
[_] It's not Apple, it's the Chinese government
[_] They should quit if they don't like it
[_] It's just capitalism at work
[_] It's just communism at work
[_] Apple's disposable workers are paid better than non-Apple disposable workers
[_] Apple's auditors didn't find any serious issues
[_] Some day the Chinese will be too wealthy to exploit
[_] Your Android is Foxconn too
[_] You're an Apple hater using Apple as a scapegoat
[_] I also work 60/80/100/120 hour weeks at my IT job
[_] Apple designers are in the US
[_] The US did the same thing to the British
[_] The US had slaves once too
[_] The US has prison labor today
[_] It's up to the Chinese to stand up to their oppressive government
[_] There are lines of willing workers outside Foxconn factories
[_] If any company were to stop the exploitation, I really think it'll be Apple
[_] Your free Linux runs on Chinese hardware too
[_] Foxconn workers think they have it great, so it's ok!
[_] Foxconn worker suicide rate is lower than Chicago's murder rate
[_] Foxconn worker suicide rate is lower than China's suicide rate
[_] We can't pollute the whole world!
[_] Half of all US households have an Apple product
[_] If we don't exploit them they'll never develop
[_] The suicide's families get the insurance money
[_] You're posting from a macbook/iphone/ipad right now
[_] There are suicide nets on American bridges
[_] Interns in the US don't get paid
[_] They don't beat the workers, apparently.
[_] Why is this news? We expect this from China.
[_] It's their country; we have no right to judge.
Just shut up and send them some bags of grain right?
We send them our industrial base. We also send them signed trade agreements with MFN status.
They send us finished goods made safely outside the Environment. And sans any OSHA EPA NLRB costs, tariffs or the slightest customs impediment. Thus, we are free to pad our regulatory nest however much we need to gratify our environmental virtues.
And this scheme works ok until you create a huge cohort of former-middle-class-now-subsistence-worker voters. Those folks have no patience for hypocrite climate warriors.
The GP is dead-on correct. Cold, hungry people don't count carbon molecules while sitting in the dark.
The above might eventually make sense to the common mope — after enough of his wealth and liberty are outlawed. But I am far more cynical. You see, our elites don't actually work with this calculus. To them, "environmentalism" is a means to power, because nothing is beyond the scrutiny of their green tyranny.
There they go again. Killing off science in the US by defunding NASAs science programs. Guess they want a theocracy where everyone worships the sky daddy in a 2000 year old universe.
Oh.
Wait.
Time to start hating on NASA I guess. I mean if those racist bible thumping warmongers want to fund it it has got to be wrong. So, lets look in the playbook and see what we have..... Ah ha! That money is better spent here on Earth to hep the poor. We need to fix our own planet before we worry about others!
One tiny spec of dust on the lens would be disastrous.
No. That's a myth. A tiny speck absorbs a tiny amount of energy before ionizing. These lasers are made of a large mass of tough material and they don't explode or whatnot when a tiny piece of matter ionizes on a ruby or YAG crystal surface.
Powerful cutting and welding lasers are used all day long in manufacturing environments around the world. They don't go haywire when a tiny speck of foreign material vaporizes in the beam. The laser degrades over time as damage accumulates.
Cracked lenses or lenses with significant contaminants on the surface can be damaged or even explode when the laser is activated. A speck of dust won't get you there.
Pointless Senate rehash. There is nothing new here; just more hyperbolic outrage over "waterboarding." It's good for about 18 more hours of Bush Derangement Syndrome news cycle. Red meat for libtards.
Fortunately Feinstein et al. won't be running Senate committees starting in January, so that will be the end of the agitprop for a while. Al Qaeda will have to go elsewhere for recruiting material.
The fact he killed someone should have generated a public trial.
A trial of what charge? First Degree Angering Minorities? We don't accuse people and put them in jeopardy "just because."
didn't meet the public's demands
First, who the fuck are you speaking for the "public?" As a member of the "public" all of my demands have been met. Other segments of the "public" can't be satisfied; they won't be satisfied until every white cop in MO has been flayed to death.
Sorry, we're not doing that either. So you go on being disappointed, and we'll go on ignoring you. Go burn some part of your neighborhood down if you don't like it.
You know, I wish your little fantasy actually came to pass. Persecuting innocent and honest people would fail badly and put the stink where it belongs; on DOJ race baiters. Among others.
The reality is the feds know this and aren't even entertaining the idea. You're just too delusional to understand that.
Because their customers are paying them to shoulder this burden. Directly. With real money. These paying consumers expect their bytes to be relayed at the rate and volume they pay to send or receive. Whatever other business arrangements a providers customers may have with any other party is none of the providers @$%&*+! business.
Simple. Straightforward. And entirely incompatible with our government's monopoly protected cable and phone companies that have decided they'd like a big juicy piece for themselves.
Don't look to hope. Despite liberal rhetoric claiming shutdowns hurt the Right, Republicans are doing well this cycle; the 2013 shutdown has done them no harm. Listening to the MSM one might think we had sent all Republicans to gulags after two shutdowns in '95-'96, but in fact they held majorities in both houses for another 10 years.
As Federal debt mounts you should anticipate more frequent and severe disruptions and develop alternatives for yourself. The odds of more shutdowns in 2015-16 are high.
More tax money will merely inflate teacher and administrative pay and pensions further. On the other hand, whatever costs these donations offset will end up in the same teacher/admin/union pockets, so it's a wash.
The schools will continue to cry poverty, the `students' will continue to attend their glorified daycare and you will go on farming your groupthink mod points.
Short answer: Obama's nominee is a political disaster; a highly partisan anti-gun obamacare cheerleader that the Dems know better than to expose to the confirmation process in an election year.
Nothing `odd' about it. Canadian Rangers aren't involved in an arms race. Bears and whatnot haven't evolved much since 1914, and they haven't been issued bear shaped body armor or fully automatic laser claws.
Thus, a reliable bolt action rifle remains sufficient. Traipsing around Arctic tundra with a heavy, high maintenance semi auto just to fend off the wildlife would be silly.
Bolt action rifles are still standard issue in the US military, ubiquitous in LE arsenals and remain wildly popular with civilians for whom new bolt action designs continue to appear. Once you exceed 5.56 NATO and 7.62×39mm calibers bolt action is by far the most common rifle action type for non-military applications.
Here we are, discussing a story about the developmental damage measured in the brains of the victims of Ceausescu's communist hellhole, and this fucking freak starts bitching about Reagan, the one president in my lifetime that made a point of illuminating the plight of people subjected to that nightmare.
In actual fact the ratio of working women has been steadily increasing since the end of WW2. Reagan's time in office didn't influence that trend one way or the other.
But keep knock'n back that Daily KOS kool-aid. No sense in allowing reality to impede on that fucked up worldview.
Slashdot Mirror
This reminds me of the early days of "web services." The "enterprise" folks were jetting around writing gobs of XML and SOAP specifications, making speeches at conferences and whatnot. Meanwhile, some thoughtful people pointed out that the combination of existing HTTP verbs and the natural namespace provided by URLs satisfied the same use cases without the mountains of esoteric specifications and staggering protocol overhead. One memory I have from that time has persisted; some SOAP standards body muckity-muck was asked about REST during some function that happened around the time of the SOAP 1.0 specification release and he said (paraphrased); "Those REST folks aren't the kind of people the get things done!"
Today, SOAP gives people nausea almost universally and REST is the first choice of green-field work, with all sorts of API's proliferating everywhere. New languages and tools target REST first and SOAP eventually. Maybe. And if not then, meh, whatever.
Now we have the Debian fork. And what is said of the people behind it by those advocating systemd bloatware? Well they're just malcontents. They don't understand the problem systemd is trying to solve. They made a crummy web site and didn't even put their names on it. They'll never accomplish anything!
I have the feeling Poettering et. al are going to lose this one. If so then at least we can credit systemd with providing the motivation to progress, and reaffirming some of those cherished (if possibly mythical) UNIX principles.
(Incidentally, if anyone knows who was responsible for that statement about REST I mentioned please chime in .... I'm 99% sure it appeared on Slashdot.)
Could we forego the TSA click-bait hate-mongering till after the holidays or something?
an idiot
An idiot that funded a room full of 3D printers with a sop to "climate change."
I didn't write them. I collected them.
You have chosen to rationalize the exploitation of Chinese workers, probably using a product you or your employer couldn't afford to purchase if manufactured by someone that shared your pleasant lifestyle. Your rationalization is characterized by one or more of the following possible memes;
[_] Making iPhones in a Chinese factory is better than being a Chinese peasant
[_] iPhones/Pads would cost too much if I had to pay my fellow citizens to make them
[_] iPhones/Pads would cost too much given environmental regulations I vehemently insist on for myself
[X] All the other manufacturers are doing it too
[_] Some/Many/Most Chinese workers appreciate 70 hour weeks and breathing my aluminum dust
[X] It's not Apple, it's Foxconn
[_] It's not Apple, it's the Chinese government
[_] They should quit if they don't like it
[_] It's just capitalism at work
[_] It's just communism at work
[_] Apple's disposable workers are paid better than non-Apple disposable workers
[_] Apple's auditors didn't find any serious issues
[_] Some day the Chinese will be too wealthy to exploit
[_] Your Android is Foxconn too
[_] You're an Apple hater using Apple as a scapegoat
[_] I also work 60/80/100/120 hour weeks at my IT job
[_] Apple designers are in the US
[_] The US did the same thing to the British
[_] The US had slaves once too
[_] The US has prison labor today
[_] It's up to the Chinese to stand up to their oppressive government
[_] There are lines of willing workers outside Foxconn factories
[_] If any company were to stop the exploitation, I really think it'll be Apple
[_] Your free Linux runs on Chinese hardware too
[_] Foxconn workers think they have it great, so it's ok!
[_] Foxconn worker suicide rate is lower than Chicago's murder rate
[_] Foxconn worker suicide rate is lower than China's suicide rate
[_] We can't pollute the whole world!
[_] Half of all US households have an Apple product
[_] If we don't exploit them they'll never develop
[_] The suicide's families get the insurance money
[_] You're posting from a macbook/iphone/ipad right now
[_] There are suicide nets on American bridges
[_] Interns in the US don't get paid
[_] They don't beat the workers, apparently.
[_] Why is this news? We expect this from China.
[_] It's their country; we have no right to judge.
Just shut up and send them some bags of grain right?
We send them our industrial base. We also send them signed trade agreements with MFN status.
They send us finished goods made safely outside the Environment. And sans any OSHA EPA NLRB costs, tariffs or the slightest customs impediment. Thus, we are free to pad our regulatory nest however much we need to gratify our environmental virtues.
And this scheme works ok until you create a huge cohort of former-middle-class-now-subsistence-worker voters. Those folks have no patience for hypocrite climate warriors.
The GP is dead-on correct. Cold, hungry people don't count carbon molecules while sitting in the dark.
The above might eventually make sense to the common mope — after enough of his wealth and liberty are outlawed. But I am far more cynical. You see, our elites don't actually work with this calculus. To them, "environmentalism" is a means to power, because nothing is beyond the scrutiny of their green tyranny.
For all budget discussions, any program, should always couch the monetary amounts in terms of how many F-35s it equates to.
Ok.
Since 2008, NASA's annual budget has been cut the equivalent of 7.3 F-35's in nominal dollars. 18.8 F-35's in inflation adjusted dollars.
The 2015 NASA budget increase is about 2 F-35's, at $132 million per low-rate production F-35.
The unit cost of a Eurofighter is $112 million. I wonder if Europe has malcontent little punklets demanding everything be priced in Eurofighters.
There they go again. Killing off science in the US by defunding NASAs science programs. Guess they want a theocracy where everyone worships the sky daddy in a 2000 year old universe.
Oh.
Wait.
Time to start hating on NASA I guess. I mean if those racist bible thumping warmongers want to fund it it has got to be wrong. So, lets look in the playbook and see what we have..... Ah ha! That money is better spent here on Earth to hep the poor. We need to fix our own planet before we worry about others!
One tiny spec of dust on the lens would be disastrous.
No. That's a myth. A tiny speck absorbs a tiny amount of energy before ionizing. These lasers are made of a large mass of tough material and they don't explode or whatnot when a tiny piece of matter ionizes on a ruby or YAG crystal surface.
Powerful cutting and welding lasers are used all day long in manufacturing environments around the world. They don't go haywire when a tiny speck of foreign material vaporizes in the beam. The laser degrades over time as damage accumulates.
Cracked lenses or lenses with significant contaminants on the surface can be damaged or even explode when the laser is activated. A speck of dust won't get you there.
Pointless Senate rehash. There is nothing new here; just more hyperbolic outrage over "waterboarding." It's good for about 18 more hours of Bush Derangement Syndrome news cycle. Red meat for libtards.
Fortunately Feinstein et al. won't be running Senate committees starting in January, so that will be the end of the agitprop for a while. Al Qaeda will have to go elsewhere for recruiting material.
The fact he killed someone should have generated a public trial.
A trial of what charge? First Degree Angering Minorities? We don't accuse people and put them in jeopardy "just because."
didn't meet the public's demands
First, who the fuck are you speaking for the "public?" As a member of the "public" all of my demands have been met. Other segments of the "public" can't be satisfied; they won't be satisfied until every white cop in MO has been flayed to death.
Sorry, we're not doing that either. So you go on being disappointed, and we'll go on ignoring you. Go burn some part of your neighborhood down if you don't like it.
You know, I wish your little fantasy actually came to pass. Persecuting innocent and honest people would fail badly and put the stink where it belongs; on DOJ race baiters. Among others.
The reality is the feds know this and aren't even entertaining the idea. You're just too delusional to understand that.
we just mindlessly build technology
In building the Internet we appear to have created the most effective conceivable means of disseminating "Blame America..." memes.
To do better you'd have to put it in the water.
Shouldn't there also be `Racist' and `Sexist' "public reporting buttons" as well?
Did I actually just type that?
Holy shit.
That's the closest thing to honesty I've heard on this matter. That scientist has no future at all in government work.
In fact, I don't believe that actually happened. Got a link?
Why should the providers shoulder this burden?
Because their customers are paying them to shoulder this burden. Directly. With real money. These paying consumers expect their bytes to be relayed at the rate and volume they pay to send or receive. Whatever other business arrangements a providers customers may have with any other party is none of the providers @$%&*+! business.
Simple. Straightforward. And entirely incompatible with our government's monopoly protected cable and phone companies that have decided they'd like a big juicy piece for themselves.
I hope
Don't look to hope. Despite liberal rhetoric claiming shutdowns hurt the Right, Republicans are doing well this cycle; the 2013 shutdown has done them no harm. Listening to the MSM one might think we had sent all Republicans to gulags after two shutdowns in '95-'96, but in fact they held majorities in both houses for another 10 years.
As Federal debt mounts you should anticipate more frequent and severe disruptions and develop alternatives for yourself. The odds of more shutdowns in 2015-16 are high.
I bet the popcorn is popped and the drinks are being poured at Slashdot headquarters right now.
I think the headquarters amounts to 2-3 cubicles in a Dice property somewhere, and those are empty.
People must like feeling afraid.
When humans lack sufficient drama they make more. Alleviated of hunger, war, plague, etc. we create and indulge new "problems" to fill the void.
More tax money will merely inflate teacher and administrative pay and pensions further. On the other hand, whatever costs these donations offset will end up in the same teacher/admin/union pockets, so it's a wash.
The schools will continue to cry poverty, the `students' will continue to attend their glorified daycare and you will go on farming your groupthink mod points.
Enjoy.
Reid has 55 (D) votes and it only needs 51 to confirm, so put the blame where it belongs.
Why is there no surgeon general?
Short answer: Obama's nominee is a political disaster; a highly partisan anti-gun obamacare cheerleader that the Dems know better than to expose to the confirmation process in an election year.
Seriously.
Trust fund rebel white people problems, in particular.
AK-47, that swedish FNC variant, RK-62
Replace .303 British with an intermediate cartridge? For bear and moose?
Dude. Shut up. Stop typing stuff. Just stop.
Yeah that seems...odd.
Nothing `odd' about it. Canadian Rangers aren't involved in an arms race. Bears and whatnot haven't evolved much since 1914, and they haven't been issued bear shaped body armor or fully automatic laser claws.
Thus, a reliable bolt action rifle remains sufficient. Traipsing around Arctic tundra with a heavy, high maintenance semi auto just to fend off the wildlife would be silly.
Bolt action rifles are still standard issue in the US military, ubiquitous in LE arsenals and remain wildly popular with civilians for whom new bolt action designs continue to appear. Once you exceed 5.56 NATO and 7.62×39mm calibers bolt action is by far the most common rifle action type for non-military applications.
Reagan
Here we are, discussing a story about the developmental damage measured in the brains of the victims of Ceausescu's communist hellhole, and this fucking freak starts bitching about Reagan, the one president in my lifetime that made a point of illuminating the plight of people subjected to that nightmare.
In actual fact the ratio of working women has been steadily increasing since the end of WW2. Reagan's time in office didn't influence that trend one way or the other.
But keep knock'n back that Daily KOS kool-aid. No sense in allowing reality to impede on that fucked up worldview.