Traditional light guns have problems with non CRT's (rear projection in particular) but that's why the sensor bar was added. you are actuaaly interfacing with that and not the TV for aiming / shooting. Also Rayman has minigames using the wii-mote as a gun, Red Steel (among others) also. So I'm inclined to believe this function works.
I understand the old games worked differently, but I find it difficult to believe they couldn't fix this given the complexity of the Wii-mote.
They need to avoid falling into that "outside realm" niche, I agree. Currently however they are the only ones actively going after people outside the 18-35 demographic and women (of all ages). Currently though there are several games coming out in the launch window that are for the core game players. Zelda, Red Steel, and The Godfather come to mind. They may have mass market appeal, but the types of games are geared to the core gamer.
I think I know why they might be having problems: there's too much demand.
Nope. They have been having manufacturing issues all along, demand isn't the issue. Their primary issue is that these manufacturing problems haven't been resolved in a timely fashion (last summer) so they can fill their demand for the ever important Christmas season.
"If I had to pick one, i'd pick the one that was the most fun to play)."
Yep, you and I agree on that one. Now with two consoles having significantly more processing power and far better graphics than the Wii, which one do you think will be better?
I'll jump in on that one. In particular The Wii version of Madden looks to be Hella fun, and from a gameplay perspective alot better than the other versions. Though the 360 version is prettier, it is missing many modes still found in the PS2, X-box or GameCube version. The Wii version retained all of them, is prettier than the xbox version and the control scheme sounds great. More power =! better games. Sony won the last 2 generations with the weakest console on the market*. Clearly it isn't all about processing power.
*Ok, the order for weakest to strongest this generation was "Dreamcast->PS2->GameCube->Xbox", but I discount the Dreamcast since it never made it to the end of the generation.
I disagree that the Xbox was twice as powerful than the PS2.
While the quality of the games is a matter of opinion, the sheer hardware is not. The Tech specs of the X-box out class everything the PS2 has (except disk capacity, they both use DVD9) by at least a margin of 2. I'm refering to Processor, Ram, GPU, etc... The N64 had the same 'advantages' over the PS1. (check Wikipedia for each system for specs). I just wanted to point that out.
it just depends on the games. Not on the power of the console.
$50 a year for a robust online service is value added. However it's not a requirement. Currently there are 4 million X-box 360's with at least a silver online account. I think it's more telling that there are 2 million that don't. Why wouldn't these 2 million sign up for at least the free version?
MS made it a modular choice that you can opt into if you want it, (Like the PS2 Network adapter) but you don't have to buy it if you don't want it. Sony gives us "Free Online", but forces Blue-Ray on at an added up front cost to the consumer. Personally if I wanted Blue-ray, I'll buy a stand alone player. My PS2 is a shitty DVD player, and I expect the PS3 will be similar. I get a much better (hickup free) experiance from either my Panasonic, or Sony brand DVD players.
Think about the amount of space a DVD player, a Blue-Ray player, a DVR, and whatever else the PS3 does would take up. Now, think about the cost. Then go back and look at the size of the PS3 and the cost.
I just wanted to point out the PS3 has NO DVR capabilities (you're thinking of the PSX that was a souped up PS2 released in Japan), and any Blue-Ray player will also play DVD's. So think about the space a PS2, and a Blue-Ray player would take up. Then compare cost. That is assuming of course you want a Blue-Ray player.
It's marginally more powerful, probably on the scale the Xbox was over the PS2.
you mean Marginally more powerful, probably on the scale the Xbox was over the Gamecube . The X-box was 2 times (or more) powerful than the PS2 on everything aside from Disk capacity. The Gamecube was marginally weaker than the X-box on everything (aside from Disk capacity).
Had this been Dreamcast 2 or a product from anyone other than Sony after dominating for 2 generations, then yes there would be alot more criticism of this new system.
Take the DS out of my example. The Wii will sell more than 100,000 units during the first week of launch in Japan. Let's not even go into why MS has failed to break that number in a year, or Sony's manufacturing issues. Nintendo will have more systems sold from the start than either of their competitors in that region. They will be the Next gen market leader in Japan.
The PS3 has made many N64 calibur missteps already. One of the biggest is the price for performance. If the 1st gen PS3 games don't look above and beyond pretty over their 360 counter part, then what justifies the premium spent?
You also have an online system that is unproven with spotty information at best, only that Sony claims 'It'll be like Live, only BETTER and FREE'. Their launch also lacks compelling exclusive content, infact the 2 games most touted for the system are a late 2007 release. The N64 only had 2 games at launch. Big mistake. How many exclusive PS3 games do you see?
Historically, it took some major screw up on Nintendo's part (N64) and a briliant system (PSX) for market leader to exchange,
Pretty much. I agree. Now, let's update that with current information.
Historically, it took some major screw up on Sony's part (PS3)and a briliant system (Wii) for market leader to exchange.
Given the numbers Sony has an uphill battle. Day 1, the Wii will be the next gen market leader in Japan*, where much of the game development is.
*To Date Microsoft hasn't sold 100,000 X-box 360's in Japan. Sony will only Launch with 100,000 units in Japan. Considering the DS Lite sells 125,000-150,000 units a week in Japan I see no shortage of Demand for the Wii, and Nintendo hasn't had the manufacturing issues that Sony is having.
I know it would be nice to have it included (I'm sure it shops with disposable batteries), but I personally like the flexibility the standard batteries provide, and I also do have a stockpile of high capacity rechargeables (AA & AAA) for that reason.
I guess if they gave rechargeable AA'a with it then that would be the best all around.
Ultimately they (Sony) don't have to win, just backrupt them with nuisence suits.
What I don't understand is the logic behind suing them in the first place... They buy your products and sell them to others to increase your install base...
The only big flaw with the console is, and this is a highly controversial point that has sparked many a flamewar, the fact that it runs off of AA batteries instead of a rechargeable one.
Instead of having a single proprietary 1800 mAh battery in the PSP, you can have two of these standard type batteries that each have greater capacity than Sony's (and for less money). I'm not sure why you would perfer the other. What is the counter-argument?
So far this YEAR the X-Box 360 has been selling worse than the Gamecube in Japan. In calander 06 they sold about 75,000 units in that territory, and Gamecube sold around 76,000 - 78,000 (in Japan, in 2006).
With only 100,000 PS3`s on launch day (for Japan), and low manufacturing yields, the DAY the Wii comes out in Japan, it will outsell either of them, likely both.
Ok,
I got a HDTV 6 months ago, and the GameCube seriously got an upgrade in Sharpness even through S-Video (I do have component cables, and an early modle GC so I can get Progressive scan). I highly recommend the Component cables.
F-Zero GX is glorious in 16:9 + 480p and it STILL pushes 60 FPS. If you don't have the component cables for the GC, I'd recommend them for the Wii and to replay some of the GC games that support it.
The Wii is supposed to already support widescreen at 480p (I think; google searching was a bit inconclusive but pointed to widescreen support),
It does, and Nintendo announced that 'the majority' of all 1st party games will support both (and Dolby Prologic II). Also it is possible For the Wii to do 720p, or 1080i just as the X-box did for some games.
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Zelda 1 & 2 came after the Collectors disk promotion ended.
The Anwser is yes. Some hardware designers are getting sloppy. Some companies however build with efficiency in mind.
Flat rate pricing. No premium for premium games, but no discounts either (at least not yet).
Ubisoft will make a killing, and others will take notice. UBi is betting big on the Wii with 8 titles at launch, and 7 more by the end of March 07.
I understand the old games worked differently, but I find it difficult to believe they couldn't fix this given the complexity of the Wii-mote.
Agreed. I understand why they are promoting NES titles over the rest, but why aren't there any light gun games?
They need to avoid falling into that "outside realm" niche, I agree. Currently however they are the only ones actively going after people outside the 18-35 demographic and women (of all ages). Currently though there are several games coming out in the launch window that are for the core game players. Zelda, Red Steel, and The Godfather come to mind. They may have mass market appeal, but the types of games are geared to the core gamer.
Nope. They have been having manufacturing issues all along, demand isn't the issue. Their primary issue is that these manufacturing problems haven't been resolved in a timely fashion (last summer) so they can fill their demand for the ever important Christmas season.
Yep, you and I agree on that one. Now with two consoles having significantly more processing power and far better graphics than the Wii, which one do you think will be better?
I'll jump in on that one. In particular The Wii version of Madden looks to be Hella fun, and from a gameplay perspective alot better than the other versions. Though the 360 version is prettier, it is missing many modes still found in the PS2, X-box or GameCube version. The Wii version retained all of them, is prettier than the xbox version and the control scheme sounds great. More power =! better games. Sony won the last 2 generations with the weakest console on the market*. Clearly it isn't all about processing power.
*Ok, the order for weakest to strongest this generation was "Dreamcast->PS2->GameCube->Xbox", but I discount the Dreamcast since it never made it to the end of the generation.
While the quality of the games is a matter of opinion, the sheer hardware is not. The Tech specs of the X-box out class everything the PS2 has (except disk capacity, they both use DVD9) by at least a margin of 2. I'm refering to Processor, Ram, GPU, etc... The N64 had the same 'advantages' over the PS1. (check Wikipedia for each system for specs). I just wanted to point that out.
it just depends on the games. Not on the power of the console.
Exactly. This is what Nintendo is banking on.
With Sony announcing that the distribution will be 80/20 favoring the higher end model, It's safe to say a PS3 is $600.
MS made it a modular choice that you can opt into if you want it, (Like the PS2 Network adapter) but you don't have to buy it if you don't want it. Sony gives us "Free Online", but forces Blue-Ray on at an added up front cost to the consumer. Personally if I wanted Blue-ray, I'll buy a stand alone player. My PS2 is a shitty DVD player, and I expect the PS3 will be similar. I get a much better (hickup free) experiance from either my Panasonic, or Sony brand DVD players.
I just wanted to point out the PS3 has NO DVR capabilities (you're thinking of the PSX that was a souped up PS2 released in Japan), and any Blue-Ray player will also play DVD's. So think about the space a PS2, and a Blue-Ray player would take up. Then compare cost. That is assuming of course you want a Blue-Ray player.
you mean Marginally more powerful, probably on the scale the Xbox was over the Gamecube . The X-box was 2 times (or more) powerful than the PS2 on everything aside from Disk capacity. The Gamecube was marginally weaker than the X-box on everything (aside from Disk capacity).
Take the DS out of my example. The Wii will sell more than 100,000 units during the first week of launch in Japan. Let's not even go into why MS has failed to break that number in a year, or Sony's manufacturing issues. Nintendo will have more systems sold from the start than either of their competitors in that region. They will be the Next gen market leader in Japan.
The PS3 has made many N64 calibur missteps already. One of the biggest is the price for performance. If the 1st gen PS3 games don't look above and beyond pretty over their 360 counter part, then what justifies the premium spent?
You also have an online system that is unproven with spotty information at best, only that Sony claims 'It'll be like Live, only BETTER and FREE'. Their launch also lacks compelling exclusive content, infact the 2 games most touted for the system are a late 2007 release. The N64 only had 2 games at launch. Big mistake. How many exclusive PS3 games do you see?
Pretty much. I agree. Now, let's update that with current information.
Historically, it took some major screw up on Sony's part (PS3)and a briliant system (Wii) for market leader to exchange.
Given the numbers Sony has an uphill battle. Day 1, the Wii will be the next gen market leader in Japan*, where much of the game development is.
*To Date Microsoft hasn't sold 100,000 X-box 360's in Japan. Sony will only Launch with 100,000 units in Japan. Considering the DS Lite sells 125,000-150,000 units a week in Japan I see no shortage of Demand for the Wii, and Nintendo hasn't had the manufacturing issues that Sony is having.
You should care for future support of your system. I love my Dreamcast, but it's a real trick of getting new games for it.
I guess if they gave rechargeable AA'a with it then that would be the best all around.
What I don't understand is the logic behind suing them in the first place... They buy your products and sell them to others to increase your install base...
I would think that's too harsh. Then again Sony uses their own batteries, so sooner or later their business will go up in flames anyway.
Sony's sues someone out fo business for selling their official products?
Instead of having a single proprietary 1800 mAh battery in the PSP, you can have two of these standard type batteries that each have greater capacity than Sony's (and for less money). I'm not sure why you would perfer the other. What is the counter-argument?
So far this YEAR the X-Box 360 has been selling worse than the Gamecube in Japan. In calander 06 they sold about 75,000 units in that territory, and Gamecube sold around 76,000 - 78,000 (in Japan, in 2006). With only 100,000 PS3`s on launch day (for Japan), and low manufacturing yields, the DAY the Wii comes out in Japan, it will outsell either of them, likely both.
F-Zero GX is glorious in 16:9 + 480p and it STILL pushes 60 FPS. If you don't have the component cables for the GC, I'd recommend them for the Wii and to replay some of the GC games that support it.
It does, and Nintendo announced that 'the majority' of all 1st party games will support both (and Dolby Prologic II). Also it is possible For the Wii to do 720p, or 1080i just as the X-box did for some games.