And to those of us that would rather play Oblivion for six months, instead of buying 15 DS games to switch between... are you simply saying that your game taste is superior? Do I hate fun?
It seems that you have an agenda in pushing "fun" games, that are "simple". I like Nintendo, I really do, but the flood of people that have discounted every game genre other than "other" is just getting cliche. It reminds me of the song "Sheep" by Pink Floyd. People that take strong stances against modern games feel that Nintendos popularity isn't a well marketed hype machine-but a revolution in which the fun guys have been freed from their shackles and now can take up arms to destroy the oppressive system of "pretty graphics" and "sequels". It isn't.
The reason Nintendo is doing well right now isn't because they are making better quality games. It is because they are making popular games that sell like hotcakes. They are cheap to make. Low development cycles. And can be played by a large group of people. That is all. The games are fun, and then you buy more games, a lot of games, because the fun only lasts so long. Nintendo has always done that.
I don't care if you hate FPS, I really don't. I like them. I like RPGs. I like... Oblivion. A lot. If you didn't get into it, that is cool. If you like playing tennis in your house, without moving the character and just doing the swinging motion because it's "fun": That is cool. You stating all the games that you think are stupid because they don't appeal to you, isn't cool.
I have no problem with the prosecution of these small time crooks, as long as the worst trouble you can get in for copyright infringement does not exceed the punishment for worse laws... which I would say includes just about everything...
The people who whine about this shit don't understand that it just isn't that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things. A very small amount of the population stands to lose, while more of the population stands to gain. But I think that if you get 3 years for copyright infringement and 1 year for beating your wife or six months for aggrivated assault, then there is something seriously wrong with the system. It means that the money being lobbied is more important than the welfare of the people in a country.
Nothing new in our modern civilized societies though. Ick... that sounded bitter.
My point is that giving a link that points to statistics that are 4 or 5 months old is ok if the systems had been out for several years, but they have only been out for 6 months. The reasons why the Wii has been so successfull in the short term are obvious. It is cheap, they made a bunch of them, and there has been a ton of hype surrounding it. The PS3 has been plagued by Sony's poor name and the high price of the system that up until now hasn't shown anything that the xBox is not capable of at a reduced price, besides blu-ray, which may or may not work out for them, but I think it's little more than a perk at this point.
The fact of the matter is though, that at this moment, we dont' know how well the Wii or PS3 are doing. The Wii has a bunch of cutesy games and the PS3 has... well, very little to offer. The Wii is doing very well in the 8-12 year old demo too, which most people don't consider to be "gamers".
Therefore, if the Wii succeeds and the PS3 and xBox begin to fail, that could be considered by most of us real gamers a crash, since we will no longer be getting the high quality in depth games that technology could provide, since the development cycles and R&D costs will no longer be worth the profits when they can just sell cheaper old school platformers and cartoony games...
I like games like oblivion, not that it is perfect, but if the creation of games like that no longer are profitable because of the cheap and easy route of making games like castlevania: again, the games that people like me love will stop progressing.
The idea of this article isn't that all games will be useless and all gaming companies will go out of business, it is that consumers as a whole will stop benefiting. If you like to play a particular type of game, that is fine, there is nothing to say that you should like my style of game. But the constant Nintendo cheerleading gets annoying because not EVERY gamer wants to play Zelda, Mario, or Metroid. So when those games start to rule the game world and force out competition, it is a bad thing. If Nintendo becomes the only profitable platform, not only will the games I like suffer, but it will only be a matter of time where the games Nintendo fans like begin to suffer.
I was thinking that while reading the parent... then saw your post... then I laughed.
That was the order of events. I am only reading this because my DS battery died in the middle of an annoying game of Castlevania. Yep, you may not know if you use Slashdot as your only way of getting game news... but the DS battery doesn't last forever!
Listen... I don't want to have to agree with an anon troll, but on this occasion there is some merit to his observations-albeit obscured by incitefull and blatantly biased remarks.
First off, I own an xBox360 and am not happy with the library of games of that platform either. I like Oblivion, but bought it on the PC afterwords to take advantage of the mouse/keyboard and numerous mods. Smackdown is a fun party game, or at least I think it would be, if I could teach some of my friends how to play it without them getting bored... The same goes for most other sports games, I simply cannot find friends to play with since they don't have the game skills i have, and just can't be competative. As a fun aside, the other day I went to the bathroom as a buddy of mine pounded my KOK: Round 3 boxer, knocking him to the mat, when I returned the count was 8 and imediately got up and as he approached one shot knockdowned him, then he got up came after me one more time, and another one shot knockdown (yes, it was lucky too). I felt like brad pitt from snatch...
Anyways, back on track... I wanted to get a Wii... Badly. I called around for two weeks and couldn't find one. I was going to buy one the moment one was located, but I just couldn't find one. I live in Buffalo, so it isn't like it's some very small town either. So the impulse died and I decided to wait for more games to come to the system since the only game I really cared about was Zelda.
In retrospect I am very happy that I couldn't find the system. I enjoyed playing the simple games of my past, but I was a child then. I liked games that you could pick up and play quickly and replay for high scores, but I had more spare time then. I like the fact that the controller scheme is new and different, but I think that we have all seen through the game development of the past 6 months that the Wii may be too underpowered to do the things that I really looked forward to for the system, such as rendering a sword or other kinds of weapon.
I would love an imersive RPG on the Wii, but I just don't think it is going to have the power, and to be honest, it just doesn't seem like developers have anything like that in mind for the near future.
The way I see it, the Wii will start to slow down in sales and will eventually be surpassed by PS and xBox, and they will still be successfull and profitable, but will not be the system of choice for people who have been playing games for the past 15 years...
I like nintendo, and enjoy my DS sometimes, but in general I feel that I have outgrown them. I am no longer a child. If I want to relive my childhood vicariously, i'll play emulated games for free on my PC, not for 5 bucks a pop on my 250 dollar Wii.
Not sure if I would jump to the same conclusion....
Does it really make sense that Dinosaurs became birds, or that birds became dinosaurs and survived the mass extinction. I have a difficult time believing that T-Rex's went on to evolve into birds, it seems much more likely that the T-Rex and other large dinosaurs were flukes and went extinct where the smaller ones with wings lived on.
I am certain they will be aquited, it is the most frivilous case I have heard of in quite some time... This isn't even someone shouting fire in a movie theater. It is one of those rare occasions that no analogy could be more obviously silly than what actually happend. They planted light brights around the town and are being charged as if they were making bomb threats...
The interview with them was priceless, all the reporters got them and were dying for some great sound bytes for their story. All they got was the two goofballs talking about hair styles throughout history. Truly classic stuff.
"I feel like FPS fans are fewer in number than RTS fans"
And to any of you out there saying "No, that isn't true! FPSs are more popular": That is because you looked it up in a book. Next time look it up in your gut.
Most sites you can just send money from one account to another, no reason to collude, because that could actually result in the site taking your money.
Slashdot Mirror
And to those of us that would rather play Oblivion for six months, instead of buying 15 DS games to switch between... are you simply saying that your game taste is superior? Do I hate fun?
It seems that you have an agenda in pushing "fun" games, that are "simple". I like Nintendo, I really do, but the flood of people that have discounted every game genre other than "other" is just getting cliche. It reminds me of the song "Sheep" by Pink Floyd. People that take strong stances against modern games feel that Nintendos popularity isn't a well marketed hype machine-but a revolution in which the fun guys have been freed from their shackles and now can take up arms to destroy the oppressive system of "pretty graphics" and "sequels". It isn't.
The reason Nintendo is doing well right now isn't because they are making better quality games. It is because they are making popular games that sell like hotcakes. They are cheap to make. Low development cycles. And can be played by a large group of people. That is all. The games are fun, and then you buy more games, a lot of games, because the fun only lasts so long. Nintendo has always done that.
I don't care if you hate FPS, I really don't. I like them. I like RPGs. I like... Oblivion. A lot. If you didn't get into it, that is cool. If you like playing tennis in your house, without moving the character and just doing the swinging motion because it's "fun": That is cool. You stating all the games that you think are stupid because they don't appeal to you, isn't cool.
why hasn't Zonk posted the Dead Goat story yet? Does he hate fun?!
thanks for that!
My point was that just because they are judges doesn't mean they have impeccable... er... judgement.
I didn't realize that on slashdot the intelligent design comment was the begining of a flamewar, this isn't the Huffington Post, is it?
I am so out of touch.
I certainly hope they get my reply before they get yours!
I'm rich Niger!
The same judges that take "intelligent design" in schools seriously...
When will it stop?
I have no problem with the prosecution of these small time crooks, as long as the worst trouble you can get in for copyright infringement does not exceed the punishment for worse laws... which I would say includes just about everything...
The people who whine about this shit don't understand that it just isn't that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things. A very small amount of the population stands to lose, while more of the population stands to gain. But I think that if you get 3 years for copyright infringement and 1 year for beating your wife or six months for aggrivated assault, then there is something seriously wrong with the system. It means that the money being lobbied is more important than the welfare of the people in a country.
Nothing new in our modern civilized societies though. Ick... that sounded bitter.
My point is that giving a link that points to statistics that are 4 or 5 months old is ok if the systems had been out for several years, but they have only been out for 6 months. The reasons why the Wii has been so successfull in the short term are obvious. It is cheap, they made a bunch of them, and there has been a ton of hype surrounding it. The PS3 has been plagued by Sony's poor name and the high price of the system that up until now hasn't shown anything that the xBox is not capable of at a reduced price, besides blu-ray, which may or may not work out for them, but I think it's little more than a perk at this point.
The fact of the matter is though, that at this moment, we dont' know how well the Wii or PS3 are doing. The Wii has a bunch of cutesy games and the PS3 has... well, very little to offer. The Wii is doing very well in the 8-12 year old demo too, which most people don't consider to be "gamers".
Therefore, if the Wii succeeds and the PS3 and xBox begin to fail, that could be considered by most of us real gamers a crash, since we will no longer be getting the high quality in depth games that technology could provide, since the development cycles and R&D costs will no longer be worth the profits when they can just sell cheaper old school platformers and cartoony games...
I like games like oblivion, not that it is perfect, but if the creation of games like that no longer are profitable because of the cheap and easy route of making games like castlevania: again, the games that people like me love will stop progressing.
The idea of this article isn't that all games will be useless and all gaming companies will go out of business, it is that consumers as a whole will stop benefiting. If you like to play a particular type of game, that is fine, there is nothing to say that you should like my style of game. But the constant Nintendo cheerleading gets annoying because not EVERY gamer wants to play Zelda, Mario, or Metroid. So when those games start to rule the game world and force out competition, it is a bad thing. If Nintendo becomes the only profitable platform, not only will the games I like suffer, but it will only be a matter of time where the games Nintendo fans like begin to suffer.
You: "So, I see you girls are playing Brain Age... I have a DS too"
Them: "Get out of here, weirdo"
And life returned to normal.
I was thinking that while reading the parent... then saw your post... then I laughed.
That was the order of events. I am only reading this because my DS battery died in the middle of an annoying game of Castlevania. Yep, you may not know if you use Slashdot as your only way of getting game news... but the DS battery doesn't last forever!
Fancy that.
I'm not sure how true it is, but it's anti-Microsoft and on Slashdot
Is it possible to get less posts like these? I like information, if I wanted this kind of information, i'd go to digg.com.
Yes, Nintendo had a far better attach rate... in december 06... troll.
I can't believe I agreed with you... on anything.
Listen... I don't want to have to agree with an anon troll, but on this occasion there is some merit to his observations-albeit obscured by incitefull and blatantly biased remarks.
First off, I own an xBox360 and am not happy with the library of games of that platform either. I like Oblivion, but bought it on the PC afterwords to take advantage of the mouse/keyboard and numerous mods. Smackdown is a fun party game, or at least I think it would be, if I could teach some of my friends how to play it without them getting bored... The same goes for most other sports games, I simply cannot find friends to play with since they don't have the game skills i have, and just can't be competative. As a fun aside, the other day I went to the bathroom as a buddy of mine pounded my KOK: Round 3 boxer, knocking him to the mat, when I returned the count was 8 and imediately got up and as he approached one shot knockdowned him, then he got up came after me one more time, and another one shot knockdown (yes, it was lucky too). I felt like brad pitt from snatch...
Anyways, back on track... I wanted to get a Wii... Badly. I called around for two weeks and couldn't find one. I was going to buy one the moment one was located, but I just couldn't find one. I live in Buffalo, so it isn't like it's some very small town either. So the impulse died and I decided to wait for more games to come to the system since the only game I really cared about was Zelda.
In retrospect I am very happy that I couldn't find the system. I enjoyed playing the simple games of my past, but I was a child then. I liked games that you could pick up and play quickly and replay for high scores, but I had more spare time then. I like the fact that the controller scheme is new and different, but I think that we have all seen through the game development of the past 6 months that the Wii may be too underpowered to do the things that I really looked forward to for the system, such as rendering a sword or other kinds of weapon.
I would love an imersive RPG on the Wii, but I just don't think it is going to have the power, and to be honest, it just doesn't seem like developers have anything like that in mind for the near future.
The way I see it, the Wii will start to slow down in sales and will eventually be surpassed by PS and xBox, and they will still be successfull and profitable, but will not be the system of choice for people who have been playing games for the past 15 years...
I like nintendo, and enjoy my DS sometimes, but in general I feel that I have outgrown them. I am no longer a child. If I want to relive my childhood vicariously, i'll play emulated games for free on my PC, not for 5 bucks a pop on my 250 dollar Wii.
Not sure if I would jump to the same conclusion....
Does it really make sense that Dinosaurs became birds, or that birds became dinosaurs and survived the mass extinction. I have a difficult time believing that T-Rex's went on to evolve into birds, it seems much more likely that the T-Rex and other large dinosaurs were flukes and went extinct where the smaller ones with wings lived on.
But I am no evolutionary scientist either.
a long time ago...
Either way...
When can we start feeding them to all of our cattle?
fag
"If we can put a man on the moon, we can verify age on the Internet" ...
But we can't proove either worked
Don't play pointless crap games made for water-heads.
Blleep blip pp tippy dip blipp blppitty!
That is the stupid cow person from AC:WW telling you to get a life!
Just kidding. I like you tepples... But Animal Crossing sucks BIG TIME.
Supply lines wasn't too bad? ... ...
... ...
Can I have sex with you?
Please?!
"anyone who gives a little of their freedom for a little security, will recieve neither, and lose bo....
Hey! I'm not an idiot!
I am certain they will be aquited, it is the most frivilous case I have heard of in quite some time... This isn't even someone shouting fire in a movie theater. It is one of those rare occasions that no analogy could be more obviously silly than what actually happend. They planted light brights around the town and are being charged as if they were making bomb threats...
The interview with them was priceless, all the reporters got them and were dying for some great sound bytes for their story. All they got was the two goofballs talking about hair styles throughout history. Truly classic stuff.
"I feel like FPS fans are fewer in number than RTS fans"
And to any of you out there saying "No, that isn't true! FPSs are more popular": That is because you looked it up in a book. Next time look it up in your gut.
Most sites you can just send money from one account to another, no reason to collude, because that could actually result in the site taking your money.