Oh yeah... I remember those. I had an old, old Apple computer (I forgot which model, it's old enough to have a keyboard and CPU as one unit) and I used to load BASIC games from tapes.
Then came the floppy drives with DOS (!) but it is actually a BASIC interpreter.
>1- Mighty Netbios ( Most secure protocol >invented since '95! ) Any sysadmin who doesnt diable this on publicly accessable machines isn't a good sysadmin. Agreed. In fact, ever since I read that you can do all those file sharing with NetBEUI, I never looked back. Also, it is less headache than the TCP/IP variant when I know the cables and network cards are working and I still can't see other #%#@ computers on the same workgroup.
>3- Melisa & IloveYou & others countlessly many Ms Word worms Application problems, not OS problems, big difference. Can I say "Windows Host Scripting" here? It came with the OS and with an option to have it installed or not, but it's still VB, isn't it? (not quite sure about this)
>4- Nimda & CodeRed variants. Millions of computers got intruded in one day. Application problems, not OS problems, big difference. IIS came with the OS, but then again, you get to choose whether you want it installed or not.
>5- Internet Explorer got 20 unfixed vulnerabilites today according to http://www.pivx.com/larholm/unpatched [pivx.com] Application problems, not OS problems, big difference. IE came with the OS, and until recently, Bill Gates maintained that the OS and IE are not separatable, so it's not that big a difference.
>6- Windows XP UPnP Vulnerability got public after the week XP was released.... I'll give you this one:) What about the other vulnerability that is patched in SP1, the one about accessing a file on your HD and it erases files? Ok, it's been patched, but still, it's pretty big:).
I also note that you put the blame on sysadmins. What about those who are home users?
I've read through the posts on this thread, and what I'm about to say is a tad redundant, but anyway:
I leafed through a rather thick book once in the library. The author has basically decompiled IO.SYS/MSDOS.SYS/COMMAND.COM and compared the DOS version with Win9x's (I think it was only a 95, since it was a long, long time ago). They both contain almost identical coding, except for the "missing" MSDOS.SYS in Win9x. That file is actually combined as a single file in IO.SYS.
In fact, he made a claim that Win9x is really DOS with a really beefed up Win 3.x (better 32-bit, multitasking, new 9x look even with the 16-bit apps, etc). If you edit the MSDOS.SYS file, you can actually boot to a DOS prompt.
He also made some other comparisons and fiddling around with the, um, shell, but the IO/MSDOS/COMMAND is what I remembered from it. Well, that and how to resurrect MSDPMI from Windows 3.1x/9x files.
hehe...would LOVE to see the fan required for that!!!
I think that that 8088 will be submerged in liquid nitrogen, or even brought closer to 0K. I remember somebody did a series of overclocking on a 486 to 200MHz+ and they had to throw that thing in the freezer? It's been too long ago... somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
Secondly, it doesn't provide Start Menu access? Well, I'm looking at a big icon for it right now, not even in the "Programs" section. They must have blind software testers working for them.
If you are using the default XP Theme, you need to click on "Start", then "All Programs" before you can access the program. In the classic start menu theme, it's already in the start menu, but in order to do that, you need to go to the taskbar's properties, then Start Menu tab, then Classic Start Menu radio button, then OK. So that's what they're arguing about: It's not there when you click on Start.
Now before you say, "BUT IT IS THERE YOU STUPID, BLIND TROLL!" That's because XP thinks that the middleware control is one of your six favorite programs. That's why it's there, but for those people who just installed SP1, it won't be there, because it was never ran.
I was trying to download it at work, which goes up to 100kB/s (it's bad as a business connection, but still it's kinda fast). It goes around 20kB, and will finish after I leave for the day. So I thought, screw it, I'll download FlashGet and segment the download 5 times.
I finally got 100kB/s, so I'm guessing that they're limiting to 20kB per connection.
I recently acquired a job that has a warehouse assembling PC's. I had a chance to see the cases that they use, and they, too, have a ribbon cable running from the case.
I should've looked a little closer though. I think I saw it split into several plugs at the end.
system manufactures don't want people messing with the bios unless they know what they are doing and the easy way to do this is to make it as cryptic as possible
If they want it to be as cryptic as possible, they'd be using 0's and 1's only.:)
they don't want some guy going "hey lets just crank up pci buss speed to 133mhz, shood make things faster!" and end up burning up a few pci devices.
I guess I'm guilty. I can't remember how many times I looked at my 286's BIOS settings and thought: Why don't I just set my base memory to 2048K and extended to 0K and get past the 640K limit? (ok, it's not as bad as burning up a few PCI devices, but it does demonstrate the curiosity in all of us) It was back in the time when HIMEM.SYS causes my system to hang every now and then, so I was limited by software that knew about INT 15h and assigned all the extra memory to HD cache.
If you live in a hot climate, raising the temperature on your thermostat by 1 or 2 degrees is going to save you more power than getting rid of the computer entirely.
That's what my father's been doing: setting the A/C at around 27-30 C, and 17-21 (22 for the colder days) for the heater (I live in Canada).
However, on a hot day, you'd rather turn off your computer than letting it contribute to your heat problems.
Everyone brings the hottest chili's they can find. Add tomato paste and chilis to a food processor. Mix until you have a nice salsa like texture. Have a contest to see who can eat the most.
I'll bring the merciless peppers of Quetzlzacatenango.:)
Oh yeah... I remember those. I had an old, old Apple computer (I forgot which model, it's old enough to have a keyboard and CPU as one unit) and I used to load BASIC games from tapes.
Then came the floppy drives with DOS (!) but it is actually a BASIC interpreter.
While loading the 5.34E20 floppies:
:)
INSERT SWAP DISK 1 OF [insert another large number]
SWAPING 64k TO DISK...
At least the hiberfil.sys will only be 64k
Next up, loading Offic...
*ducks*
Nobody's higher than 10.
:)
Uhhh... Drivers for the GeForce series? I think they're at 30.x, with 40.x as beta or something?
Ok ok, they're video drivers, not apps... but still, it's version 30+
Now, if the site gets /.'ed, how are we gonna download the file? Your link is referring to the same site.
I could've sworn that the first pic was Spiderman's server room...
who doesn't love google?
:)
Initially China didn't.
>1- Mighty Netbios ( Most secure protocol >invented since '95! )
:) :).
Any sysadmin who doesnt diable this on publicly accessable machines isn't a good sysadmin.
Agreed. In fact, ever since I read that you can do all those file sharing with NetBEUI, I never looked back. Also, it is less headache than the TCP/IP variant when I know the cables and network cards are working and I still can't see other #%#@ computers on the same workgroup.
>3- Melisa & IloveYou & others countlessly many Ms Word worms
Application problems, not OS problems, big difference.
Can I say "Windows Host Scripting" here? It came with the OS and with an option to have it installed or not, but it's still VB, isn't it? (not quite sure about this)
>4- Nimda & CodeRed variants. Millions of computers got intruded in one day.
Application problems, not OS problems, big difference.
IIS came with the OS, but then again, you get to choose whether you want it installed or not.
>5- Internet Explorer got 20 unfixed vulnerabilites today according to http://www.pivx.com/larholm/unpatched [pivx.com]
Application problems, not OS problems, big difference.
IE came with the OS, and until recently, Bill Gates maintained that the OS and IE are not separatable, so it's not that big a difference.
>6- Windows XP UPnP Vulnerability got public after the week XP was released....
I'll give you this one
What about the other vulnerability that is patched in SP1, the one about accessing a file on your HD and it erases files? Ok, it's been patched, but still, it's pretty big
I also note that you put the blame on sysadmins. What about those who are home users?
And I'm sure somebody would start making jokes about the weather on Linux is better than on Windows :)
:)
"100% chance of BSoD today", anyone?
$cp /bin/laden /dev/null
Aren't you really just cloning him and then stick his clone into the void?
All of them screaming, "LET US OUTTA HERE! IT'S CRAMPED AND SOMEONE FARTED!"
:)
Oh, so no wonder we're detecting X-rays from black holes.
I've read through the posts on this thread, and what I'm about to say is a tad redundant, but anyway:
I leafed through a rather thick book once in the library. The author has basically decompiled IO.SYS/MSDOS.SYS/COMMAND.COM and compared the DOS version with Win9x's (I think it was only a 95, since it was a long, long time ago). They both contain almost identical coding, except for the "missing" MSDOS.SYS in Win9x. That file is actually combined as a single file in IO.SYS.
In fact, he made a claim that Win9x is really DOS with a really beefed up Win 3.x (better 32-bit, multitasking, new 9x look even with the 16-bit apps, etc). If you edit the MSDOS.SYS file, you can actually boot to a DOS prompt.
He also made some other comparisons and fiddling around with the, um, shell, but the IO/MSDOS/COMMAND is what I remembered from it. Well, that and how to resurrect MSDPMI from Windows 3.1x/9x files.
hehe...would LOVE to see the fan required for that!!!
I think that that 8088 will be submerged in liquid nitrogen, or even brought closer to 0K. I remember somebody did a series of overclocking on a 486 to 200MHz+ and they had to throw that thing in the freezer? It's been too long ago... somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
previous poll... sorry.
New Thread
/." option in the previous post. :)
- Complaint that no-one needs that power
- You said that last time and we did
- I don't, I like my 486
That just seems like a "I talk to myself on
Secondly, it doesn't provide Start Menu access? Well, I'm looking at a big icon for it right now, not even in the "Programs" section. They must have blind software testers working for them.
If you are using the default XP Theme, you need to click on "Start", then "All Programs" before you can access the program. In the classic start menu theme, it's already in the start menu, but in order to do that, you need to go to the taskbar's properties, then Start Menu tab, then Classic Start Menu radio button, then OK. So that's what they're arguing about: It's not there when you click on Start.
Now before you say, "BUT IT IS THERE YOU STUPID, BLIND TROLL!" That's because XP thinks that the middleware control is one of your six favorite programs. That's why it's there, but for those people who just installed SP1, it won't be there, because it was never ran.
I was trying to download it at work, which goes up to 100kB/s (it's bad as a business connection, but still it's kinda fast). It goes around 20kB, and will finish after I leave for the day. So I thought, screw it, I'll download FlashGet and segment the download 5 times.
I finally got 100kB/s, so I'm guessing that they're limiting to 20kB per connection.
I recently acquired a job that has a warehouse assembling PC's. I had a chance to see the cases that they use, and they, too, have a ribbon cable running from the case.
I should've looked a little closer though. I think I saw it split into several plugs at the end.
Instead of bookmarking web sites you like, use a tool to download them -- you never know when they'll vanish forever.
:)
Time to dig up an old joke:
Download the whole Internet onto your computer.
It's a campaign to /. sites that cover the news of the great firewall of China.
Too bad only the powerful servers have the news.
system manufactures don't want people messing with the bios unless they know what they are doing and the easy way to do this is to make it as cryptic as possible
:)
If they want it to be as cryptic as possible, they'd be using 0's and 1's only.
they don't want some guy going "hey lets just crank up pci buss speed to 133mhz, shood make things faster!" and end up burning up a few pci devices.
I guess I'm guilty. I can't remember how many times I looked at my 286's BIOS settings and thought: Why don't I just set my base memory to 2048K and extended to 0K and get past the 640K limit? (ok, it's not as bad as burning up a few PCI devices, but it does demonstrate the curiosity in all of us) It was back in the time when HIMEM.SYS causes my system to hang every now and then, so I was limited by software that knew about INT 15h and assigned all the extra memory to HD cache.
If you live in a hot climate, raising the temperature on your thermostat by 1 or 2 degrees is going to save you more power than getting rid of the computer entirely.
That's what my father's been doing: setting the A/C at around 27-30 C, and 17-21 (22 for the colder days) for the heater (I live in Canada).
However, on a hot day, you'd rather turn off your computer than letting it contribute to your heat problems.
I knew that... [looks around nervously].
But I was referring to a Simpson's episode.
But anyone who has been through 3rd grade math knows that 3 X 0 = 0 :-)
:)
Naaa, it says "up to", so it's 0 x 0 = 0
Everyone brings the hottest chili's they can find. Add tomato paste and chilis to a food processor. Mix until you have a nice salsa like texture. Have a contest to see who can eat the most.
:)
I'll bring the merciless peppers of Quetzlzacatenango.
Hmm... I would've thought they'd come up with Quarter Pounder for *hammer names.