I learned "Scheme" which is a variation on Lisp. But both use 'prefix' not 'postfix' notation.
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At least one of the serious problems I have with the whole prefix notation is that it tends to place the operator (in this case '+') pretty far from one of the items being worked on (in this case the '2'). This is a simple example and thus not *too* difficult. But some of the more complicated things I'd written exposed that flaw quite clearly.
And yes, FWIW I hate XML as well. Did I make any indication that I felt otherwise about XML? Did I even mention XML? Why do you care so much about XML?
I also don't recall saying that I hated parenthesis. I've got nothing against them per se. I dislike LISP and Scheme and the like because of their syntax. If you didn't like "C" because of its syntax, I wouldn't assume you dislike curly-braces.
The only thing that actually makes XML slightly better to deal with is that it's a document format, not a programming language.
I started on BASIC, then learned PASCAL. Moved on to C, then C++. At some point I did scheme, Java, korn shell scripting, bash scripting, Perl, PHP, jsp, javascript, etc. Many of those languages are not alike.
This is not about similarity. This is about an *aweful* syntax. Just plain bad IMHO.
It's not so much being treated like cattle... For some time we've had the need to prove our identity to people we don't know and don't meet in person. How would you privacy nuts solve this problem? We don't live in a society where eveybody meets people they do business with anymore.
Thus some form of identification card (A really good, difficult to forge one using PKI or some such) would be much more of a benefit than a hindrance. We already have crappy ID's (CC numbers, Soc Sec., etc) and they're not effective.
How *do* I prove to the mortgage company on the phone that I am who I say I am? And why would it be bad to be able to do so?
So, its just a card with a password, and a chunk of crypto that said the password was right or wrong
No. It's a card with a *private key* that can encrypt data given to it using that private key. The bank/eBay/other would have your public key. They would create some random token to be encrypted and give it to you. Your card encrypts and signs it using your private key. If they can then decrypt it and verify it with your public key then they know it's you.
Why in the WORLD did the poster have to mention abortion in a subject that has *NOTHING* to do with it? We're pretty much guaranteed to only see life vs. choice flames now...
Current games? Dunno, probably none really. Been a while since I've gamed.:-)
I just remember Zak McKracken. Great game. Wonderful puzzles, and funny as hell. If it weren't for the friggin' mazes... And those mazes weren't even logical so they couldn't be mapped! You had to guess! Grr.. Still bitter.
What if that ID card stored a private key and a chip to do encryption of incoming data on it? The bank/gov't has your public key. Near impossible to 'forge', and if it goes missing you can report it.
If we're going to get ID cards, I'd at least want them to be useful. At this point I'm in more danger of having my identity stolen than of being tracked by black helicopters...
Y'know, I'm pretty much agnostic myself. From what I can tell I never understood why Science debates with Religion. Science tries to understand the world, religion (and philosophy) strives to make one a better person. From the sounds of it you could probably use a bit of the latter as you've obviously got too much of the former...
Some would say that children should be learning how to "think" in school as well as some facts.
I think the one course missing from US public schools is Philosophy. Children have lots of questions about the world. At some point they need to be taught that not everything is known and they need to be given the tools to determine for themselves how to reason out what they believe in.
Not everything is reading, writing and arithmetic. Lately it seems like people just want children to learn cold fact with no ability to process them.
Teach about intelligent design, about creationism, about evolution, about buhdism, about islam, etc. But do so from the context of philosophy and thought.
OK. "sentance" is actually correctly spelled "sentence" ...
Correcting petty grammatical errors to make oneself feel important is not exactly a mature attribute
'Nuff said. I'm done here. FWIW I was typing that early this morning. And as I said, I'm not expecting perfection. Typo's and such are understandable. As are minor spelling errors here and there. If I *always* spelled "sentence" incorrectly, or if everybody else started spelling it with the same mis-spelling I made above, that's when it becomes annoying.
I appreciate the sarcasm. I don't expect people to have perfect spelling and grammar. Lord knows mine aren't perfect as I'm sure you can tell. Normally I hate spelling/grammar nazis.
But "well and good" are such *simple* and common words that any knucklehead should know how to use them. Even you hit upon your/you're. How often here do you read something like "There research is terrible" or "Your going to need to explain yourself"?
It doesn't make you incoherent, though one *does* need to re-read a sentance or two a couple times before they can figure out what you mean. But it definitely shows serious sloppiness and speaks a bit about the author (whether you like it or not) when even *trivial* grammar rules are ignored.
Touche'. Normally I hate the spelling/grammar Nazis. I've just become very aware lately that almost nobody I speak to, or have read the writings of, knows how to use the word 'good' correctly. It's fast becoming a pet-peeve of mine...
Granted my spelling/grammar are far from perfect, but the good/well issue is right up there with their/they're/there and its/it's. Anybody who's graduated high school should know them! But I digress and get further off point...
Conduction requires *something* to remove the heat (cool water heating up removing some heat from a hot body). Space is a near vacuum. There isn't any *thing* to remove your heat.
A submarine has an ocean of water around it. A capsule in space has a universe of 'nothing'.
A tiny speaker inside Mighty Mouse produces button-clicking and Scroll Ball-rolling sound effects.
This is just stupid... It's all about *tactile* feedback, not audio feedback. Christ, half the time I'm using my computer I have music playing (with earphones most of the time too). What good does audio feedback give?
This is some weird trend I've noticed at Apple beginning with the iPod. Buttons that don't click, scroll wheels that don't scroll. It's obnoxious.
Apparently you've never been quoted by the press. I give them a 1 in 5 chance of actually getting anything somebody says both correct and within proper context...
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I learned "Scheme" which is a variation on Lisp. But both use 'prefix' not 'postfix' notation.
(+ (* 4 3) 2)
At least one of the serious problems I have with the whole prefix notation is that it tends to place the operator (in this case '+') pretty far from one of the items being worked on (in this case the '2'). This is a simple example and thus not *too* difficult. But some of the more complicated things I'd written exposed that flaw quite clearly.
Okay, a slight mis-spelling. I accept that. Fine.
And yes, FWIW I hate XML as well. Did I make any indication that I felt otherwise about XML? Did I even mention XML? Why do you care so much about XML?
I also don't recall saying that I hated parenthesis. I've got nothing against them per se. I dislike LISP and Scheme and the like because of their syntax. If you didn't like "C" because of its syntax, I wouldn't assume you dislike curly-braces.
The only thing that actually makes XML slightly better to deal with is that it's a document format, not a programming language.
I started on BASIC, then learned PASCAL. Moved on to C, then C++. At some point I did scheme, Java, korn shell scripting, bash scripting, Perl, PHP, jsp, javascript, etc. Many of those languages are not alike.
This is not about similarity. This is about an *aweful* syntax. Just plain bad IMHO.
LISP proved one thing. It doesn't matter what features your language has, if it has a crappy syntax nobody will ever use it.
(I'd (stab (my (eyeballs out)) (if I needed)) (to look)(at LISP) all ) day)
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Have you ever watched "The WB" on TV? Or perhaps MTV? I think people who dislike racial stereotypes better start at 'home' so to speak.
Martin Lawrence set black equality back so far I wanted to startup the underground railroad.
That is an interesting idea. But it involves a little too much effort on the part of your average human being.
:-\
I just don't think people care that much about their privacy. They *do*, however, care a *lot* about conveniance.
It's not so much being treated like cattle... For some time we've had the need to prove our identity to people we don't know and don't meet in person. How would you privacy nuts solve this problem? We don't live in a society where eveybody meets people they do business with anymore.
Thus some form of identification card (A really good, difficult to forge one using PKI or some such) would be much more of a benefit than a hindrance. We already have crappy ID's (CC numbers, Soc Sec., etc) and they're not effective.
How *do* I prove to the mortgage company on the phone that I am who I say I am? And why would it be bad to be able to do so?
So, its just a card with a password, and a chunk of crypto that said the password was right or wrong
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No. It's a card with a *private key* that can encrypt data given to it using that private key. The bank/eBay/other would have your public key. They would create some random token to be encrypted and give it to you. Your card encrypts and signs it using your private key. If they can then decrypt it and verify it with your public key then they know it's you.
http://www.rsasecurity.com/rsalabs/node.asp?id=21
Why in the WORLD did the poster have to mention abortion in a subject that has *NOTHING* to do with it? We're pretty much guaranteed to only see life vs. choice flames now...
Nice. :-)
Current games? Dunno, probably none really. Been a while since I've gamed. :-)
I just remember Zak McKracken. Great game. Wonderful puzzles, and funny as hell. If it weren't for the friggin' mazes... And those mazes weren't even logical so they couldn't be mapped! You had to guess! Grr.. Still bitter.
What if that ID card stored a private key and a chip to do encryption of incoming data on it? The bank/gov't has your public key. Near impossible to 'forge', and if it goes missing you can report it.
If we're going to get ID cards, I'd at least want them to be useful. At this point I'm in more danger of having my identity stolen than of being tracked by black helicopters...
Ahhh, I was looking for that one too. Right up there with "The Maze" (though I guess this might fall under "puzzles").
Nothing like having all gameplay come to a halt as you go fetch some graph paper and a pen to start mapping out some maze...
Y'know, I'm pretty much agnostic myself. From what I can tell I never understood why Science debates with Religion. Science tries to understand the world, religion (and philosophy) strives to make one a better person. From the sounds of it you could probably use a bit of the latter as you've obviously got too much of the former...
Some would say that children should be learning how to "think" in school as well as some facts.
I think the one course missing from US public schools is Philosophy. Children have lots of questions about the world. At some point they need to be taught that not everything is known and they need to be given the tools to determine for themselves how to reason out what they believe in.
Not everything is reading, writing and arithmetic. Lately it seems like people just want children to learn cold fact with no ability to process them.
Teach about intelligent design, about creationism, about evolution, about buhdism, about islam, etc. But do so from the context of philosophy and thought.
OK. "sentance" is actually correctly spelled "sentence"
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Correcting petty grammatical errors to make oneself feel important is not exactly a mature attribute
'Nuff said. I'm done here. FWIW I was typing that early this morning. And as I said, I'm not expecting perfection. Typo's and such are understandable. As are minor spelling errors here and there. If I *always* spelled "sentence" incorrectly, or if everybody else started spelling it with the same mis-spelling I made above, that's when it becomes annoying.
I appreciate the sarcasm. I don't expect people to have perfect spelling and grammar. Lord knows mine aren't perfect as I'm sure you can tell. Normally I hate spelling/grammar nazis.
But "well and good" are such *simple* and common words that any knucklehead should know how to use them. Even you hit upon your/you're. How often here do you read something like "There research is terrible" or "Your going to need to explain yourself"?
It doesn't make you incoherent, though one *does* need to re-read a sentance or two a couple times before they can figure out what you mean. But it definitely shows serious sloppiness and speaks a bit about the author (whether you like it or not) when even *trivial* grammar rules are ignored.
Touche'. Normally I hate the spelling/grammar Nazis. I've just become very aware lately that almost nobody I speak to, or have read the writings of, knows how to use the word 'good' correctly. It's fast becoming a pet-peeve of mine...
Granted my spelling/grammar are far from perfect, but the good/well issue is right up there with their/they're/there and its/it's. Anybody who's graduated high school should know them! But I digress and get further off point...
It's called Alien and from my experience it works pretty good.
Sorry to go off-topic and flame, but... "Works pretty well" damnit! Why can't anyone ever get this correct?!?!
"Good" is an adjective (describes a noun)
"Well" is an adverb (describes a verb)
Something is good, but something is done well.
Conduction requires *something* to remove the heat (cool water heating up removing some heat from a hot body). Space is a near vacuum. There isn't any *thing* to remove your heat.
A submarine has an ocean of water around it. A capsule in space has a universe of 'nothing'.
*rofl*
Good show...
A tiny speaker inside Mighty Mouse produces button-clicking and Scroll Ball-rolling sound effects.
This is just stupid... It's all about *tactile* feedback, not audio feedback. Christ, half the time I'm using my computer I have music playing (with earphones most of the time too). What good does audio feedback give?
This is some weird trend I've noticed at Apple beginning with the iPod. Buttons that don't click, scroll wheels that don't scroll. It's obnoxious.
Apparently you've never been quoted by the press. I give them a 1 in 5 chance of actually getting anything somebody says both correct and within proper context...
As a consultant I thank you. That's a riot. :-)
Every pagan god is a god of fertility.