Um, why would anyone say Vista Basic sucks, everything it still retains all the core improvements to kernel and underlying archetectures. Its in everyway still better than XP Professional (besides backwards compatibility). So I wouldn't assume it sucks, it just doesn't have as many features as Vista Ultimate or Business. I actually prefer classic mode in XP to that god awful new look they got rid of. I like the aero look, but the classic looks pretty cool too- so I wouldn't be too upset to go without it. (aside from thumbnail previews and such)
I run Vista on my year old laptop, has a centrino duo and integrated intel graphics 945GM i think, either way, i run aero just fine, and get about 4 hours battery life
I'm gonna sue cause I can't replace the window manager with fluxbox. Or maybe if i could just run X11 on top of the NT kernel. =P
They are pretty much suing because they can't replace the search entry in your normal folders to be google search. Um,... i kinda agree with everyone that think WTF? It would be nice if every component had a nice API to replace parts. I'd like to replace the start menu for one. But i don't think i should be able to sue because i can't.
I could you beat- I did this with my laptop... just to prove it could be done
Of course i didn't use soap- that would ruin the LCD
Everything turned out fine, although i think my screen was a little brighter before =P
I don't know why everyone is just thinking of this as tech support or other call in services. This technology would be much more useful for conference calls. Say you're in an engineering firm and you are being hired to build a machine. During a conference call with a customer you are introduced to 8 of the engineers on their end. Wouldn't it be useful if it could display their name every time they talked? Some of you may say, "If they have different receivers you can be identified that way", this isn't TeamSpeak, most conference calls are done with a team of people around a table in a conference room.
Um, not quite. We are still discovering new planets and solar systems constantly. If there were other life forms, just as intelligent as us (we can't even travel to mars mind you), Do you really think they would have found us by now? Its not much of a proof saying intelligent life doesn't exist because they haven't found us. Exspecially when our "view" of distant stars may be millions of years old.
If you pay any attention to the GPL, I don't think you can steal open source code and include it in your closed source product. Thats probably the most limiting feature of open source,... you can only use it with more open source.
I don't see how you believe it is impossible to create an application in a single directory on M*dollar sign?*. Keep all shared libraries in user directory instead of putting them in the proper folder, don't create shortcuts in the start menu section. I keep all your configuration information locally instead of the registry. There's no good reason to do this. As it helps nothing. The point I was trying to make, is all OS's have applications that do this- and they should, different abstractions of a program (shared libraries, user binaries, configurations) can be better organized leveraging a common structure as presented by the OS. Where certain files are on the computer real don't affect flaws in the OS, as someone was saying.
Wether these directories need to be user level or admin is another question. Personally I don't mind elevating privileges to install applications in either linux or windows- as its necessary in both.
WoW has nothing on the good old Everquest days, I played Everquest for 3.5 years, and other MMO's simultaneously for about the same time period. For WoW- I played for maybe 6 months and quit,... to sum it up- the game is too easy. The reason its popular and most people like it is because most people suck at video games, in addition they are assholes and love TKing on a P2P server, which is also more fun in EQ. Beisides cartoony graphics- and/train command on the male gnome- there isn't much good reason to play WoW.
Or maybe Vista wasn't nearly as resource intensive as people thought. I run vista with aero on my laptop with integrated intel graphics, 1gb RAM and core duo processor (2 years old). And i don't notice a speed difference. Same with my desktop- I wouldn't consider buying more RAM if I don't think i need it. And I'm sure many people who adopt vista just don't see the performance slowdown either.
The biggest downside to vista is some back compatibility issues, which more RAM will not fix.
It's become apparent to me that you are a mac user, and in addition have no concept of how your operating system actually installs those programs you click and drag. I would suggest looking into how your OS works a little more. In addition throwing files are over the filesystem, thats hardly the problem as Linux AND mac does that as well. that's why there are all those directories in your root directory.
I've never had a problem with MS Office, but I've had OOWriter fail to recover a document it saved. And that ended up costing me the important document (my resume) Thankfully I had a backup. Moral of the story, is file corruption happens- but i doubt it has anything to do with office itself.
I also agree, after using OpenOffice for two years, I switched to my old copy of Word '95. Yes I believe even MSOffice that old is still easier to use than OO today.
I have a 1 year old laptop with integrated Intel graphics, with 34mb of video ram. According to Nvidia Vista ready test, this computer is not able to run vista. However i've been running vista WITH aero for 6 months now without a hitch, it evens seams faster than XP. But maybe thats just cause it looks ALOT nicer.
99.9999999% of the public doesn't 't feel good about setting something up the Linux-way Assuming there's about 6 billion people in the world. According to your statistic, there are 6 people in the world who feel good about setting something up the Linux-way.
Way to go decimal hungry poster. I just love statistics made up arbitrarily. Especially when they use one digit.
I was told my one article I read from benchmarks, (I'm not finding it to cite it), the although Vista is slower on single core machines, its up to 40% faster than XP on dual core, - i'm noticing this fact.
I think you've lost site of why...
It's just as valid to say that the sum of the angles of a triangle is pi (or 3.14 for engineering purposes), so you have (say) 1.570, 0.795, 0.795 as your angles. proves that radians are easier than 90, 45,45 as degrees?
radians and degrees have no reason to be standardized as their use by scientific and engineering communities is fairly distributed. As an electrical engineer, I enjoy viewing phase angles and the like as degrees. For the average person its easier too visualize a number between 0 and 90 than between 0 and ~0.78539816339744830962.
That is of course regardless to the fact that you use radians primarily in calc 1-5 (or however your college splits it up)
Wow,... most of these comments are by the actual close minded people the topic sugggests. Vista isn't a "new coat" the visual upgrade is there, but i don't see how rewriting most the kernel, a new audio stack and new networking stack from scratch is a coat for anything. I don't mind people bashing an OS. Call it a little slow or unpolished, but don't be an ignorant dick spreading gossip.
At least with KDE 4, I can finally get truly free software, not - its free if you use our free OS. I love the idea of building a desktop OS that's multiplatform and X11 independant. I plan on compiling standalone apps like kate to run on my Vista computer. Its truly the best of both worlds.
sure- but thats assuming windows has a terminal editor in which you can hit ctrl s to save, as far as graphical editors, like Kmail, gedit, kate, and openoffice. The applications which are most similar to notepad, wordpad, outlook, and word... they save as ctrl s. Although i must admit i can't base this on anything since i don't know how to use console editors in windows. Although editors like Emacs and VIM aren't meant to be used by people who don't use the tutorial. As assides from saving - they are wholly unusable without knowing the keystrokes. Also, emacs is an advanced text editor designed mostly for programming needs.
Having asside from that I think you might know some information about windows that might help me during graphical errors. How do you switch to a virtual console in windows (equivalent of ctrl alt F1) and what console text editor are you comparing?
its almost disgusting your implied suggestion that save should become its own button. I wasn't aware Ctrl + S was legacy. And if thats a troublesome keystroke then i suggest you practice. Cause it comes as fast as a normal keystroke for me.
Are you saying does windows have an alternative to that ? Cause ctrl + s works in most linux apps i use.Unless you think its faster to take your mouse and hit File->Save while typing, (which, of course, linux has too) Please reply though, still use windows and can't tell the difference of saving in either.
i agree force is still the right word, all my best friends when i fixed up their computers cause of rediculous lag (old laptops mind you) i'd ask why they had all this stuff in their system stay. The answer "it came that way" didn't think it did anything bad. After i systematically removed them- they thanked me when their computers actually ran again, not 8 minutes to open firefox, however noone that firefox has that option is nice. Good to know they have the decency not to enable it by default, *stares at netscape*. Although netscape has a good reason,... it takes about 15-20 times the wait to open the browser from scratch.
Either way, I do hate the way dell does their computers. When i got my laptop, after unistalling the 50th app. (not making this number up) i decided there was nothing i could do to get a truly clean Windows Environment, and formated. While i was at it i free'd up 5gb more space taken up by the restore partition. First think i want on a 40gb drive is to lose a massive portion to a backup cause dvd restore's cost an extra 50 cents.
And I chose my words badly the first time. I was not flaming and 'hate' was a strong word but i overly use it. Its frustrated trying to help a friend who has thoroughly abused his OS. Btw, I've heard of Mac OS but i fail to see what their OS has to do with their use of a system tray by default on Quicktime for Windows. Although I love the feigned ignorance sarcasm approach. However I';; conceed, I did forget they packaged quicktime with ITunes, I always install Quivktime Classic for my distaste of having iTunes forced on my for use of watching a video. And i do not have an iPod so it never phased me.
seems like that might be the reason to why I hate windows and windows users. All their applications or problems are solved by running another deamon,... some little system tray icon that exists to take up rescources. Now wether a caps unlock program takes up any rescources isn't my point. But i love fixing a friends computer and finding that they have 10 or more programs they rarely use installed in their system tray at boot up. Do you really need programs such as quicktime running beforehand so... it opens faster when you actually use it (like once every 6 months).
Either way, i agree with the founder of this thread- the CAPS Lock key belongs in that group of 3 buttons (you know what i mean, Print Screen, Scrooll Lock, Pause) the buttons you rarely use but you sometimes wish to activate. Either that or make it some hotkey like Ctrl+shift+L.
I don't know how many times i'm programming and hit the cap lock in place of tab key. very annoying.
I think XGL is great and will be much more powerful and take up far less rescources than Vista's Aero. But Considering XGL is in alpha, eXGL is not implemented yet, and no implementation to support direct 3d. XGL is nice to look at for doing basic desktop use, but overall is still inconvenient at best. Expecially if you want to play ANY game.
Vista is a wholehearted(at least money handed if not hearted) effort to make a next-gen OS, and while taking up far more rescources,.. it'll do something. I'll stick with linux, partly cause Microsoft likes money too much at the inconvenience of us. But also cause i like picking my hardware. Not buying it all from the same place-> i'm talking to you Apple.
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Um, why would anyone say Vista Basic sucks, everything it still retains all the core improvements to kernel and underlying archetectures. Its in everyway still better than XP Professional (besides backwards compatibility). So I wouldn't assume it sucks, it just doesn't have as many features as Vista Ultimate or Business. I actually prefer classic mode in XP to that god awful new look they got rid of. I like the aero look, but the classic looks pretty cool too- so I wouldn't be too upset to go without it. (aside from thumbnail previews and such)
I run Vista on my year old laptop, has a centrino duo and integrated intel graphics 945GM i think, either way, i run aero just fine, and get about 4 hours battery life
I just use Matlab, the only units you use there is radians. Although then again, I'm an engineer.
Awesome, but does it replace the microsoft windowing system or just run on top of it? What does IIRC mean?
I'm gonna sue cause I can't replace the window manager with fluxbox. Or maybe if i could just run X11 on top of the NT kernel. =P They are pretty much suing because they can't replace the search entry in your normal folders to be google search. Um,... i kinda agree with everyone that think WTF? It would be nice if every component had a nice API to replace parts. I'd like to replace the start menu for one. But i don't think i should be able to sue because i can't.
I could you beat- I did this with my laptop... just to prove it could be done Of course i didn't use soap- that would ruin the LCD Everything turned out fine, although i think my screen was a little brighter before =P
I don't know why everyone is just thinking of this as tech support or other call in services. This technology would be much more useful for conference calls. Say you're in an engineering firm and you are being hired to build a machine. During a conference call with a customer you are introduced to 8 of the engineers on their end. Wouldn't it be useful if it could display their name every time they talked? Some of you may say, "If they have different receivers you can be identified that way", this isn't TeamSpeak, most conference calls are done with a team of people around a table in a conference room.
Um, not quite. We are still discovering new planets and solar systems constantly. If there were other life forms, just as intelligent as us (we can't even travel to mars mind you), Do you really think they would have found us by now? Its not much of a proof saying intelligent life doesn't exist because they haven't found us. Exspecially when our "view" of distant stars may be millions of years old.
If you pay any attention to the GPL, I don't think you can steal open source code and include it in your closed source product. Thats probably the most limiting feature of open source,... you can only use it with more open source.
I don't see how you believe it is impossible to create an application in a single directory on M*dollar sign?*. Keep all shared libraries in user directory instead of putting them in the proper folder, don't create shortcuts in the start menu section. I keep all your configuration information locally instead of the registry. There's no good reason to do this. As it helps nothing. The point I was trying to make, is all OS's have applications that do this- and they should, different abstractions of a program (shared libraries, user binaries, configurations) can be better organized leveraging a common structure as presented by the OS. Where certain files are on the computer real don't affect flaws in the OS, as someone was saying. Wether these directories need to be user level or admin is another question. Personally I don't mind elevating privileges to install applications in either linux or windows- as its necessary in both.
WoW has nothing on the good old Everquest days, I played Everquest for 3.5 years, and other MMO's simultaneously for about the same time period. For WoW- I played for maybe 6 months and quit,... to sum it up- the game is too easy. The reason its popular and most people like it is because most people suck at video games, in addition they are assholes and love TKing on a P2P server, which is also more fun in EQ. Beisides cartoony graphics- and /train command on the male gnome- there isn't much good reason to play WoW.
Or maybe Vista wasn't nearly as resource intensive as people thought. I run vista with aero on my laptop with integrated intel graphics, 1gb RAM and core duo processor (2 years old). And i don't notice a speed difference. Same with my desktop- I wouldn't consider buying more RAM if I don't think i need it. And I'm sure many people who adopt vista just don't see the performance slowdown either. The biggest downside to vista is some back compatibility issues, which more RAM will not fix.
It's become apparent to me that you are a mac user, and in addition have no concept of how your operating system actually installs those programs you click and drag. I would suggest looking into how your OS works a little more. In addition throwing files are over the filesystem, thats hardly the problem as Linux AND mac does that as well. that's why there are all those directories in your root directory.
I've never had a problem with MS Office, but I've had OOWriter fail to recover a document it saved. And that ended up costing me the important document (my resume) Thankfully I had a backup. Moral of the story, is file corruption happens- but i doubt it has anything to do with office itself. I also agree, after using OpenOffice for two years, I switched to my old copy of Word '95. Yes I believe even MSOffice that old is still easier to use than OO today.
I have a 1 year old laptop with integrated Intel graphics, with 34mb of video ram. According to Nvidia Vista ready test, this computer is not able to run vista. However i've been running vista WITH aero for 6 months now without a hitch, it evens seams faster than XP. But maybe thats just cause it looks ALOT nicer.
I was told my one article I read from benchmarks, (I'm not finding it to cite it), the although Vista is slower on single core machines, its up to 40% faster than XP on dual core, - i'm noticing this fact.
Wow,... most of these comments are by the actual close minded people the topic sugggests. Vista isn't a "new coat" the visual upgrade is there, but i don't see how rewriting most the kernel, a new audio stack and new networking stack from scratch is a coat for anything. I don't mind people bashing an OS. Call it a little slow or unpolished, but don't be an ignorant dick spreading gossip.
At least with KDE 4, I can finally get truly free software, not - its free if you use our free OS. I love the idea of building a desktop OS that's multiplatform and X11 independant. I plan on compiling standalone apps like kate to run on my Vista computer. Its truly the best of both worlds.
sure- but thats assuming windows has a terminal editor in which you can hit ctrl s to save, as far as graphical editors, like Kmail, gedit, kate, and openoffice. The applications which are most similar to notepad, wordpad, outlook, and word... they save as ctrl s. Although i must admit i can't base this on anything since i don't know how to use console editors in windows. Although editors like Emacs and VIM aren't meant to be used by people who don't use the tutorial. As assides from saving - they are wholly unusable without knowing the keystrokes. Also, emacs is an advanced text editor designed mostly for programming needs. Having asside from that I think you might know some information about windows that might help me during graphical errors. How do you switch to a virtual console in windows (equivalent of ctrl alt F1) and what console text editor are you comparing?
its almost disgusting your implied suggestion that save should become its own button. I wasn't aware Ctrl + S was legacy. And if thats a troublesome keystroke then i suggest you practice. Cause it comes as fast as a normal keystroke for me.
Are you saying does windows have an alternative to that ? Cause ctrl + s works in most linux apps i use.Unless you think its faster to take your mouse and hit File->Save while typing, (which, of course, linux has too)
Please reply though, still use windows and can't tell the difference of saving in either.
i agree force is still the right word, all my best friends when i fixed up their computers cause of rediculous lag (old laptops mind you) i'd ask why they had all this stuff in their system stay. The answer "it came that way" didn't think it did anything bad. After i systematically removed them- they thanked me when their computers actually ran again, not 8 minutes to open firefox, however noone that firefox has that option is nice. Good to know they have the decency not to enable it by default, *stares at netscape*. Although netscape has a good reason,... it takes about 15-20 times the wait to open the browser from scratch.
Either way, I do hate the way dell does their computers. When i got my laptop, after unistalling the 50th app. (not making this number up) i decided there was nothing i could do to get a truly clean Windows Environment, and formated. While i was at it i free'd up 5gb more space taken up by the restore partition. First think i want on a 40gb drive is to lose a massive portion to a backup cause dvd restore's cost an extra 50 cents.
And I chose my words badly the first time. I was not flaming and 'hate' was a strong word but i overly use it. Its frustrated trying to help a friend who has thoroughly abused his OS. Btw, I've heard of Mac OS but i fail to see what their OS has to do with their use of a system tray by default on Quicktime for Windows. Although I love the feigned ignorance sarcasm approach. However I';; conceed, I did forget they packaged quicktime with ITunes, I always install Quivktime Classic for my distaste of having iTunes forced on my for use of watching a video. And i do not have an iPod so it never phased me.
seems like that might be the reason to why I hate windows and windows users. All their applications or problems are solved by running another deamon,... some little system tray icon that exists to take up rescources. Now wether a caps unlock program takes up any rescources isn't my point. But i love fixing a friends computer and finding that they have 10 or more programs they rarely use installed in their system tray at boot up. Do you really need programs such as quicktime running beforehand so... it opens faster when you actually use it (like once every 6 months). Either way, i agree with the founder of this thread- the CAPS Lock key belongs in that group of 3 buttons (you know what i mean, Print Screen, Scrooll Lock, Pause) the buttons you rarely use but you sometimes wish to activate. Either that or make it some hotkey like Ctrl+shift+L. I don't know how many times i'm programming and hit the cap lock in place of tab key. very annoying.
I think XGL is great and will be much more powerful and take up far less rescources than Vista's Aero. But Considering XGL is in alpha, eXGL is not implemented yet, and no implementation to support direct 3d. XGL is nice to look at for doing basic desktop use, but overall is still inconvenient at best. Expecially if you want to play ANY game. Vista is a wholehearted(at least money handed if not hearted) effort to make a next-gen OS, and while taking up far more rescources, .. it'll do something. I'll stick with linux, partly cause Microsoft likes money too much at the inconvenience of us. But also cause i like picking my hardware. Not buying it all from the same place-> i'm talking to you Apple.