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Safemedia's CEO Tells Congress He Can Stop P2P
palewook writes "Yesterday, Safwat Fahmy appeared in front of the House Science and Technology Committee. During Fahmy's testimony [PDF], he claimed Safemedia's "P2P Disaggregator" technology uses traffic-shaping systems and network-filtering systems that can destroy contaminated P2P networks. And their Clouseau product will make it impossible to send or receive any illegal P2P transmission on any installed network. However, Clouseau allows tunneling and SSH and never opens packets to determine file legality."
Awesome! When he's finished with that, he can stop the AIDS epidemic in Africa, and stabilize Iraq. Then maybe next summer he can finally get that space elevator built using all the energy from the fusion power plant his company has just finished perfecting.
One time I threw a brick at a duck.
Isn't lying to Congress illegal?
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
He probably has to download quite a few illegal works to test his product. Will he be sued for these?
"Kato! Ze network is rrrrringing!" *thwack*
Clouseau was a terrible detective: any success he had was purely by chance. I can't help but wonder if this is a joke, just based on the name.
Nostalgia's not what it used to be.
How long after they conquer the internet with their traffic shaping devices until the company starts ransoming P2P media companies? What do you think will happen once they 'shape' a WoW patch and the entire world goes into catalytic convulsions pre-disposing a worldwide geek uprising?
the traffic shaping just looks for the 'Evil Bit' set in the TCP header
Everyone will DL the patch from file planet instead?
You mad
Looks like a good way to squeeze some decent money out of DHS.
I'd ask him if he can filter out TOR.
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Move along!
You know, I have one simple request. And that is to have sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads!
If ever there was a time for the haha tag, this is it.
I think the likely hood of this is about the same as the spam companies shutting down spam for good, or the virus companies ending viruses, or doctors ending illness.
Basically, no chance in hell. The ingenuity of one little company pitted against every single person who wants them to fail? Look at AACS? Weren't they going to end movie piracy? How's that workin' for them?
ad logicam Claiming a proposition is false because it was presented as the conclusion of a fallacious argument.
articulo dice: "..(it) will detect and prohibit illegal P2P traffic while allowing the passage of legal P2P such as BitTorrent."
So wait, it blocks P2P sharing, but not BitTorrent, or it only allows legal torrents? If I'm reading this correctly, it assumes all bitTorrent is legal, so therefore allows it to pass. Isn't BitTorrent that majority of file-sharing anymore? I can't see this tool being extremely useful.
Doesn't Congress have other things they should be worrying about like the wars they allowed, Katrina,and the public infrastructure instead of worrying about business profits?
Aren't civil courts the ones set up to deal with things like this?
What a crock. Even my mother knows that things can be distributed at different bitrates, different encoding and different formats. This has about as much of a chance of "solving" the vastly overstated p2p problem as I do of winning the lottery.
And how pray tell do you suppose fileplanet will handle the onslaught of millions of simultaneous ravenous geek downloads? It will be like the slashdot effect amplified 10 fold.
I am guessing the app will misspell all instance of Hamburger. HaaAmmmbwerjer.
Did anybody notice that their product is called Clouseau?
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Peer to peer traffic isn't illegal, is it? File sharing isn't either.
File sharing of copyrighted works is. But how does he know which P2P traffic to stop without examining the content? What stops us from just encrypting everything anyway? Or it's just going to stop all P2P traffic without caring about its legality? Wouldn't that actually be illegal?
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.. the lines are already an hour+ long on popular files. Whats another 3 days.
You mad
But as the URL is www.zeropaid.com/news/8825/Anti-piracy+company+ testifies+before+Congress+that+it+can+eliminate+P2 P+at+Universities I think the summary might have left out some important information.
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...anyone have a torrent?
Can someone point me to the torrent?
totally_legal_DVDRip.avi problem solved.
If I was making a program like this, I wouldn't name it after a famously bungling detective.
Lying is. Making misleading statements (like say, "Iraq has WMDs and purchased Yellow Cake uranium to make nuclear weapons!") clealy isn't, as recent real-life examples have proven.
Snark aside, the same situation is happening here. He can destroy some p2p networks, at least temporarily. He's not perjuring himself.
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Man, blowing holes in my jokes. Come now, we all know WoW is more addictive than the most potently addictive substances on earth. I do know some people that get shakes when they are away from WoW for periods longer than a power nap. Yes, it's scary. And I was hoping to make a funny. Now I'm going to go back to my cubicle and sulk!
From the summary: Clouseau allows tunneling and SSH and never opens packets to determine file legality."
This seems to imply that Clouseau blocks all P2P traffic, regardless of legality.
To quote the testimony from the pdf: Our device: "Clouseau" is a network appliance that detects and prohibits illegal P2P traffic while allowing the passage of legal P2P such as BitTorrent and all other internet transmissions.
I don't know how the program does that without examining the content of the transmission, but he is claiming it does work.
I don;'t even download TV shows (timeshifting, a legal use, albeit an untested/alternative form of timeshifting). I definitely don't download any music whatsoever - Instead of try-before-I-buy, i simply do not tempt myself any more, so I don't download music, I avoid listening to top-40 stations, and I don't and won't buy new music, aside from a select few acts I go out of my way to follow.
However, I use P2P networks for downloading things such as Linux distributions, particularly opensuse and kubuntu. If P2P networks are broken up like this, they are interrupting totally legal activities and any ISP which engages in such traffic shaping should immediately lose their privileges/protections they enjoy as common carriers. By discriminating traffic they are no longer merely carriers deserving of protection against liability (for activities such as carrying terrorist communications, kiddie porn, and other illegal communications) because they are going out of their way to stop some illegal activities by blocking traffic, so they should immediately become responsible for blocking ALL illegal traffic. When a terrorist or pedophile or ebophile successfully sends illegal communications, the ISP should be held at the same level of responsibility as the purpetrators themselves.
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Why? It'll be more fun to laugh at him when everyone sees him for the fool and moron he is, instead of just the /.ers doing it.
No, do not shoot him, he deserves no such mercy, he deserves to live in the torment of his own making.
with the help of the United States CONGRESS.
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Ahh I love the smell of snake oil in the late afternoons.
My karma is not a Chameleon.
And their Clouseau product will make it impossible to send or receive any illegal P2P transmission on any installed network. However, Clouseau allows tunneling and SSH and never opens packets to determine file legality.
The true innovation here is clear. Their product has the psychic ability to determine what is legal and illegal without actually inspecting the traffic. With a little tweaking of this psychic software they can finally create computers that do what we mean and not what we say.
If you go to the website of the people making the claim they can erase internet piracy you'll notice a few fun things.
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http://www.safemediacorp.com/Internet-Piracy/Dirt
Basically it seems they are mostly targeting the mostly obsolete networks like Kaazaa, iMesh, Limewire and eMule. The fact that internet piracy has since moved on to the mostly legal bittorrent network seems to be lost on them.
They also spout strange things like that the 2 billion songs sold on iTunes are being traded over P2P. I thought the point of iTunes was that it was heavily DRM'd?
Read and enjoy
Congressmen do it all the time!
Does their product bite?
We'll never win until we take off the white gloves...
Concerning P2P, I think it is unlikely that a permanent technical solution can ever be found to this pandemic. It is first and foremost a human issue. It might be a genetic issue as well. It would be interesting to see if there is a genetic connection between David Berkowitz, Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, P2P users, and Swedes.
Linux violates 235 Microsoft patents.
Why doesn't the police go directly for the creators of the illegal works?
I heard that during his testimony Fahmy's left eye kept blinking uncontrollably and that at one point, while raving about Clouseau, he absentmindedly amputated his pinky while toying with his Leatherman.
No kidding. I also find the irony of naming a tool for stopping copyright infringement after a fictional character from a movie/cartoon series which I'm surprised isn't trademarked in some way somewhat delicious.
I guess it's a better name than Dreyfus though?
from their website:
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"There is not and will almost never be a legitimate business or governmental justification for use of file sharing programs. SafeMedia has developed the solution to prevent the use of such programs and stop the mass distribution of copyrighted material in file sharing networks with its network appliance, Clouseau."
beyond the fact that naming a product "Clouseau" makes as mch sense as naming it "The Three Stooges", safemedia would appear to be capitalizing on unwarranted fears
http://www.safemediacorp.com/Internet-Piracy/Dirt
WoW has nothing on the good old Everquest days, I played Everquest for 3.5 years, and other MMO's simultaneously for about the same time period. For WoW- I played for maybe 6 months and quit,... to sum it up- the game is too easy. The reason its popular and most people like it is because most people suck at video games, in addition they are assholes and love TKing on a P2P server, which is also more fun in EQ. Beisides cartoony graphics- and /train command on the male gnome- there isn't much good reason to play WoW.
Typo in parent:
Isn't lying to Congress illegal?
It's a French word, easy to misspell. The correct spelling is, "de rigueur."
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The title is a little bit misleading; they're not talking about eliminating P2P altogether.
The technology this fellow talks about in his testimony is pretty clearly intended to primarily protect users from doing things like sharing their entire hard drives (he names one example of a woman who shared a directory containing credit card information) and thereby becoming unwitting contributors to copyright infringement and identity theft. He comes right out to say that it doesn't target BitTorrent (even though everybody knows BitTorrent is used primarily for "piracy") at all, nor does it block tunnelling or encrypted traffic.
Anybody who was trying to crack down on piracy in general would make a box that would effectively unplug the internet connection by blocking everything suspicious in the least. This is about curtailing inadvertent contributions to piracy and identity theft, to help better target the willing contributors (as he says, BitTorrent peers require identification and consent before participating in a network).
Programs like Kazaa (I haven't used any of those for a while, so please forgive the lack of examples) often take users through a wizard to find things they want to share on the P2P network, or have a default of sharing all media files found, or worse, sharing the entire hard drive or user directory. Uninitiated users won't realise this, and might just want to download one or two songs -- they end up sharing their music collections with the world.
This is about making it easier for the {RI,MP}AA and their government helpers to target the "problem users," and helping their image by cutting down on litigation against six-year-old kids, stay-at-home moms, and dead people.
Don't blame me -- I voted for Roslin.
technology which is designed to destroy contaminated P2P networks by draining the illegal content of those networks
How is it going to detect 'contamination' by copyright material? AFAIK there's no watermarking yet. Maybe something like a signature database (ala anti-malware scanners?). Yup, I'd love to see the footprint of that little file.....
Users simply plug it in the subnet as a bridge and it goes to work without altering their network topology."
Without changing the logical topology perhaps. The physical topology is altered by introducing a whopping great single-point-of-failure and potential bottleneck.
will detect and prohibit illegal P2P traffic while allowing the passage of legal P2P such as BitTorrent.
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"That is why our P2PD implemented in Clouseau never opens any transmission packets. Rather, we monitor the ever-changing and adapting myriad of illegal P2P protocols/networks and continually update our systems to block only these illegal transmissions."
So... BitTorrent P2P good, other P2P bad?
It must be using the Evil bit (http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3514)
That's not their product.
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I thought it was a time-honored tradition at this point.
If you buy this, I'd have this lovely bridge for sale, great view on the skyline of San Francisco included...
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
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Only pirates use P2P, only communists use Linux and only hippies use OSX. All of these are gateways to the terrorist lifestyle and the destruction of western civilization.
that all contaminated mp3s,movies etc have their evil bit set ???
We have a new world to conquer; they have only a lost cause to lose.
KILL CLOUSEAU
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KILL CLOUSEAU
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Don't blame me -- I voted for Roslin.
Here's a link to RFC 3514, for those wondering about this.
"National Security is the chief cause of national insecurity." - Celine's First Law
Considering the implications, I'd say yes, far better.
Then again, considering the way the mafiaa works...
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
I had to do a double take after misreading the CEOs name as "sweaty fanny".
3 days. I know people who sit and watch the patch download, no matter the size no matter how long it takes for it to start. I only added to your joke in the end. Lucky you, I don't get a cube, I have a huge piece of spray foam that was used for packing a test module in a shipping box and a work bench. I'm not even allowed to sulk.... then they get out the whips.
You mad
Let's hope Congress doesn't mandate this snake oil for any Universities 'receiving Federal funds'.
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Gee where have I heard that before, Robert McNamara?
Ed Felten wondered the same: see is Safemedia a parody?
Don't even need software to do it, just a backhoe.
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Personally what scares me is the amount of vitriol spewed when the servers aren't up 2 minutes after the exact moment they should have been.
3 days? I can't even begin to imagine the horror.
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I have the best solution for stopping piracy. Stop over charging. THE END
If carrots got you drunk, rabbits would be fucked up. - Comedian Mitch Hedberg R.I.P. 03/30/68-2/24/05
Seriously... read his freaking testimony... Some highlights from it. Our nation is in trouble. Regarding Clouseau's features o Network Invisibility - Clouseau operates in a stealth mode when performing P2P filtering. This feature allows the appliance to be completely invisible to attacks that may be launched on the device. (uhhhh Sony Rootkit part 2?) How does Clouseau work? I will do my best to explain in layman's terms the following technologies utilized by Clouseau: Adaptive Finger Printing and DNA Markers - SafeMedia's filtering system utilizes proprietary finger printing techniques to identify specific P2P clients/protocols. By using these DNA markers, Clouseau is able to uniquely identify whether a packet is part of a P2P transaction or regular internet traffic. By studying the details in-depth, SafeMedia is able to avoid false-positives. Adaptive Network Patterns - Not all protocols can be easily identified with single packets. As such, Clouseau® is able to monitor packet flows and adapt its filtering based on what it has already seen and now sees. This extensible system utilizes a technique called experience libraries. Experience Libraries - P2P clients and protocols will change every day. The process of adapting to this change and constantly being updated with the latest knowledge of such clients/protocols is the responsibility of the experience library. SafeMedia's network operations trains these libraries with new patterns and DNA markers and push these new libraries to Clouseau" units out in the field. Update - No P2P filtering appliance will function without constant updates. All of the methods described above are constantly evolving and SafeMedia utilizes the Akamai network to push new updates through the internet Using a highly scalable network such as Akamai allows SafeMedia to offload the deployment of updates to a well-established content-distribution network.
It sounds just like Peer Guardian, except it uses PG's block list as an allow list, and vice versa...
What does it mean for a protocol/network to be illegal?!
Not in any particular order, lots of blah cut out:
Virtually everyone who uses file sharing programs appear to use them exclusively to download infringing files.
The only solution to making this free, copyrighted material unavailable to these masses is to eliminate peer-to-peer file sharing programs altogether.
There is not and will almost never be a legitimate business or governmental justification for use of file sharing programs.
Mission Statement
SafeMedia's Coalition Against Internet Piracy (CAIP) is committed to increasing the understanding of the negative impact of Internet Piracy and advocating for the successful implementation of "Clouseau(TM)" by working with Congress and the administration; Departments of Justice, Commerce, and Education; and Copyright Holders and their Associations, Unions, and Organizations to drive greater government-wide efforts to address the serious issue of Internet piracy and the violation of the copyright laws and to recognize that there is now a solution (Clouseau(TM)) to the serious unresolved issue of Internet Piracy.
Mmm... RIAA shill? Just block everything that it can't recognize? Basically a way to push their personal firewall application to have it installed by law? They can't sell enough of their product by themselves?
Coalition Goals
As Congress and copyright holders are in a stand-still watching the erosion of copyright laws, SafeMedia product solutions must emerge as the technological solutions to a political, legal, and social problem created by technology advancement.
Somehow, those persons sound a lot like Hitler. The erosion of copyright law is not in the consumers advantage. With the current status of DRM, DMCA etc, the spirit of the copyright law does indeed get eroded and congress doesn't do anything about it. We as customers are duped by stupid businesses that don't want to change the way they work.
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If Tax Dollars get wasted on this I'm going to crack, I swear.
Wanna fight ? Bend over, stick your head up your ass, and fight for air.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Desert_Fox
"The only conclusions that can be drawn from these findings are that file sharing programs only serve one purpose: to serve the masses with free, copyrighted material via their networks and users. The only solution to making this free, copyrighted material unavailable to these masses is to eliminate peer-to-peer file sharing programs altogether."
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http://www.safemediacorp.com/Internet-Piracy/Dirt
"Clouseau was a terrible detective"
I thought the same thing. It's like using the Rocky theme "Gonna Fly Now" during a sporting event. Rocky lost that one, folks. Playing that song in support of your team is the musical equivalent of loser talk.
I Can Stop Democracy
If you can't have democracy without a free press, the above is correct. Destroying the internet won't stop "piracy", kiddie porn, or any of the other horsemen of the infopocolypse, it will only protect the corrupt from the truth. "traffic-shaping systems and network-filtering systems that can destroy contaminated P2P networks" are all the rage in China, and they could care less about music and movie sales. The free flow of information on the internet is starting to take it's toll on government and corporate propaganda. That free flow is the target of this and other attacks on the internet, because it makes corruption harder.
Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.
That's always worked out so well for everyone who's ever said it in the past.
I like music
I thought that this was the case. Only 12% of the entire Military could consider themselves 'democrat' or 'liberal'.
Blar.
...how did he manage to arrive to Washington? By bus?
Congress must be pissed off at every gamer that plays an RTS or something?
God spoke to me.
Canute states he will shortly be pushing back the waves.
Unless I'm mistaken, this person wasn't on the witness list for the "The Role of Technology in Reducing Illegal Filesharing: A University Perspective" hearing. The witnesses are not only listed on the website but also in the Hearing Charter. I've watched the entire hearing (there's a link to a Real stream on the website) and Safwat Fahmy was not in the video that I watched.
Am I missing something? Am I looking at the wrong hearing? Or did this person simply write a letter to congress and we've now given him and his company lots of free press?
Why they would even consider using Clouseau as a name for security/investigation software is beyond me. If I wanted to encourage sales of a security product I wouldn't name it after a bungling detective who got things done haphazardly and by chance.
Oh wait.. maybe there is a hint of truth to the name, maybe it jsut finds files by chance too...
"...never opens packets to determine file legality..."
Side tidbit for those wondering who Clouseau is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspector_Clouseau
And this doesn't require expensive snake oil - just your existing firewall.
Block everything in both directions.
Then, allow what you need from where you need it. Example: Your web proxy can be granted access to port 80 going out, your mail relay can be granted access to port 25 etc etc.
This has the added bonus that you probably won't have to go around frantically patching holes when the Next Big Scary Thing comes about.
Granted, it means you'll have to understand what the hell you're doing, but any half-competent admin looking to solve a problem shouldn't be put off by that.
In Congress, P2P could mean Pay to Play and is an integral part of many gov't subcontracts.
Have gnu, will travel.
Well, there goes 99% of the internet use.
If you want to get really technical even email is traffic between 2 'peers'...
And besides, who died and made him king? The last thing i downloaded sing those 'evil p2p things' was the OO alpha for mac, and the last i heard that was legal.
---- Booth was a patriot ----
The folks over at Freedom to Tinker seem to think Safemedia is an elaborate hoax.
On the other hand, its CEO is testifying in front of Congress...
I know this would be nasty and whatnot, but why don't they just D-DOS the trackers for torrent networks, kill of a few of the big NNTP servers, knock our some IRC servers etc.....We're talking about people with nearly unlimited funds here (the mafRIAA). I mean, just lobby congress to allow it, and make it happen. Stop biatching that all P2P is t3h evil, and knock out what really is the thorn in the side of a big chunk of the internets.
Lets face it people, this would really be better for all of us. The way that big governments have been able to stick their noses into OUR freaking networks has been because we are all supposedly these evil murdering pirates. Illegal file trading quiets down for a little bit, and maybe the government might start leaning a little bit back towards our side of things. The big mucky mucks in washington don't know much, if anything, about the way that packet switched networks operate... but there IS somebody willing to educate them on the subject. Do we really want MAFRIAA henchmen doing the training?
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I love how you can't comment on their "blog".
Saves them from the opinions of millions of folks who know this is gayer than the DMCA.
You can't take the sky from me.
Yes, one other poster posted the same thing I am about to:
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http://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2375
Who the heck modded this person down as a troll, when all they are doing, is telling it how it REALLY is!
(And, how it is @ a hefty sum of $275 million a day on a war (probably more) & for what? Killing our soldiers, AND You guessed it, and so did the poster I am replying to (see url above) - CORPORATE AMERICA RAKING IN MONIES VIA THEIR PUPPETS IN GOV'T. IN THE U.S.A., today).
The mod who modded him down has to be a republican... either that, because I am no '/. expert', it was some other dork who had mod points that is a republican, & modded him down.
it's about time to dust off montey python..... (clears throat) *insert outrageous French accent here* I wave my private parts at your auntie, so go boil your bottom you son of an English bed wetter!!
destiny, chance, fate, fortune; they're all ways of claiming your fortunes, without claiming your failures. -gerrard
Playing that song in support of your team is the musical equivalent of loser talk.
But it does mean you hope to win in the next 4 seasons! And then try to make a ridiculous come back from retirement twenty years later, I guess...
The enemies of Democracy are
Time to bust out WASTE I guess... there's no way in hell you can seperate illegal from legal behavior with that protocol. Unless you also want to block VPN access.
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I was under the impression that people who testify in front of Congress are authorities in their field.
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So one may think that this Safwat Fahmy is an authority in the field.
Absolutely not. This person has not published a single document in any single respectable publication venue (including academic ones).
A simple google search reveals that he has not been involved in any important project and his only previous experience in Information Technology was founding an utterly failed company called WiZnet. That company produced nothing but a site which is nothing more than an electric-electronics product.
Hey Congress, what about inviting people like V. Cerf, D. Clark, and tens of others successful academics and businessmen to clarify to you how the Internet and its tubes works? Even Bram Cohen would be a much more appropriate person for the task.
And we expect this bunch of amateur, gullible, uninformed, corrupted bunch of representatives to solve the much more complicated Middle Eastern problems? sigh
Good thing, the US was not governed by such an incompetent bunch in the second half of the 20th century, or we would all be dead or forced to be Nazis of Stalinist Communists by now.
You may want to consider that it is ILLEGAL for any U. S. President, Senator, Congress or Judge to tell the truth.
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The same applies to any member of the UK government.
The National Security Act of 1947 which was passed by a Democrat congress.
http://www.intelligence.gov/0-natsecact_1947.shtm
The Espionage Act of 1917
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espionage_Act_of_191
The UK is even worse with its Official Secrets Act original version 1910.
How much do you want bet that if you took a look at the code under the hood, you'd find sections stolen from here: http://www.bandwidtharbitrator.com/
Even if their product will do as advertised, ISP's will not install it. In Australia ISP's have different pricing schemes for different download quota's (Technically it is unlimited but you are shaped after x GB's depending on your plan) a 4 GB download limit is on average AU$40 whilst a 60 GB limit is on average AU$90. If all you are doing is browsing the web you will never reach the 4 GB limit and so ISP's will never make any money as there is a nil profit margin on the low download plans. They only really exist to get you hooked on high speed downloads and then get you to upgrade plans.
The market will also help sort this one out, if ISP A (lets call them Telstra) and ISP B (lets call them iinet) put in this filtering but ISP C (lets call them Amcom) doesn't, this will propagate amongst the Internet community of australia pretty fast, subscriptions will rise on ISP C and drop on ISP A and B as it is illegal in australia to prevent your customers from leaving (disconnection fee's, lock in contracts, limited monopolies) so you will only have to pay for two things 1. the connection fee (waived on 24 month contracts) 2. hardware (discounts are given on 24 month contracts) and in no way can they force you to pay for the remainder of the contract after termination.
There are different rules for mobile phones of course, but that another rant entirely.
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
Not only can he stop P2P, cure cancer, teach your dog Latin, and leap tall buildings in a single bound, but he also has a really cool bridge in San Francisco to sell you!
Knowing Google's lust for data collection, the Soviet Union is still alive and well inside the psyche of Sergey Brin....
Perhaps Safwat Fahmy shouldn't have been granted a visa.
We don't need immigrants who subtract from rather than add to freedom and privacy.
If this is indicitive of the quality of immigrants we allow in and for these reasons,it's time to close the borders.
Safwat Fahmy,GO HOME! Your thin misguided purpose has no solution,let alone one that supports freedom,people or addresses
illegal,non constitutional,congressionally bribed copyright.
Pack up your towel and GO HOME!
*Repent!Quit Your Job!Slack Off!The World Ends Tomorrow and You May Die!
Wow, you're mother sounds kinda geeky
I'll give you a point for at least trying to use a word other than 'your', unfortunately in this instance it would have been correct. You FAIL.
Wasn't Inspector "Clouseau" the bumbling, totally incompentent detective from The Pink Panther movies? That's the name they pick for software which is supposed to enforce copyright law?
Well, let's hope it proves more effective then their Image Identification System, "Magoo".
If the targets are sufficiently obliterated there's no way you can prove that they *weren't* engaged in nefarious activities.
If they weren't terrorists, they wouldn't have towels on their heads, now would they?
Xix.
"Everything is adjustable, provided you have the right tools"