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I remember the last time changes were made... scoop wrote back saying that he was close to loosing his control over freeks who couldn't stop bitching.
Just like Someone yesterday asked "Can linus kill linux"? The answer is Yes... but do you anyone would kill his own baby/creation ? NO If someone does something to his own creation/baby, its because it means a great deal to him/her.
So comming back to this issue of Freshmeat, I think people should appretiate what scoop is doing rather than bitch about the changes. He is here to make your life easy not to give you reasons to bitch. If you can't handle it, just get the hell out of here. This is the Internet. Changes are supposed to happen. You would be in a stone age if it was not for some freeks who designed the first stone Tool
So grab a mug of coffee (or milk if u want) and enjoy the new look... and if you don't like it, dont even bother to logon the net. You are ancient.
This is pretty close to what scientists think about about god. "Does god play dice ?"
What would you do if God did play dice ?
You can't do anything. You have to trust your insticts and hope it won't happen.
Personally, I don't think someone as bright and selfless as Linus could do this. And to bring up a question like this in itself a slap on the face. How can you ever say anything like that to anyone ? If Lenardo da' vinci destroyed all his paintings it would have had most effect on him himself. And a person like that wouldn't do that untill he feels totally help less !!
You should not be talking about taking away power from linus. You should be talking about giving more power and resource to linus instead.
I am ashamed this question ever came up on slashdot. However, I hope next time this question would be phrased with the right words next time.
regards,
rkt
You are missing the most obvious use of this technology. A transparent transistor and transparent screen is one step closer to perfect hologram image, or 3D image.
Layers of transparent 2D screens can be combined at different distances to provide a psuedo 3D image.
If this transistor really becomes cheap and if its really transparent, then I'd imagine someone would make a solid block out of it and make the first perfect 3D television...
Thats a lame proposition. How do you think governmnets work ? Everytime you buy are car you pay tax... we pay something around 7 to 8 % in US. That doesn't mean that we should go copying cars... no... thats not what its for. They are used to build roads...etc. The reason why some things are not taxed is because government things that its better for the progress/growth for something to be tax free... as it could fuel economy. In India gasoline is subsidised... just like many outer contries.. how do you think goverment gets money for that ? Yes... from the so called "copying-tax-for-blank-cds".
There are many ways of calling a government lame.. but this is not one of them.
They might have seen it in a diff way.
1. May be Blank CDs are no more fueling economy.
2. May be there was a subsidy attached to the raw material which the CD manufacturers use. And gorvernment now thinks that it should compensate for the loss.
3. May be government is trying to promote people from buying "processed" CDs so that there is more tax on that...
This is very normal... there is nothing to be concerned here. What I am interested to know is why they changed thier minds all of a sudden.
In a dramatic new development, Microsoft officials confirmed the reports that next version of Microsoft windows will have tools which will force Users to single machine. The user would have to buy additional lisences to work on other computers at his home.
Every new computer come with a nylon strap which can be used to tie the computer to the users back. If you want a "carry-around" version of the 21" monitors, you would have to pay $$$$$ more to get a mountable LCD screen.
Though MS recomends using the supplied nylon straps, the users are free to use networking cables of phone line cables. However that would void the license agreement.
Users are also warned that the new software would explode if the user tries to un-tie the strap.
The the user wishes to use two computers, he would not only have to buy two liscences, but would also need a double-stacker on his back which can stack two computers at the same time. Tough it would be advisable to use a Terminal Switch to switch between two machines, the user can carry around two monitors if he or she wishes.
I hope that helps... MS is also comming out with a computer game called, ms-football. The computers which are made for the game are made of titanium alloy and are mounted "tie"d to the back of the player. The objective of the game is to finish the game without breaking straps which tie you to the computer.
1) Percentage of bugs as compared to micr0s0ft windoze.
2) Number of CPUs required to run a competitor OS at the same speed.
3) Number of people who really though it was a quick release:)
4) Number of people (in billions) who have been waiting for past year.
5) Number of hardware support still missing from the kernel.
6) Number of cans of beers you need to get over the release ( for heavy drinkers, multiply by 10)
7) Number of messages linus will get per minute over the next couple of months to thank him for another release...
... NEway... I don't care what you think... I'm off to get the latest...
The guy who said that, Dewang Mehta, is head of a group of Technology Industries. He is not a hacker himself, and I don't think the hackers themselves said anything.
The article mainly speaks about the open-mindedness of the Indian industries over this issue. For one they are clear about the difference between a "hacker" and a "cracker". This is a big step in itself.
It was a late jesture, now that many indian websites have been hacked in the past few weeks, but neverthless its still a right step.
its better than letting those kids go wild cracking other sites......empty brain is a devils playground.
rkt
That reminds me of the movie "Class of 2000" where robots teach a class of students. However that was for a different reason....
CBT and web based training is already popular. However they don't provide what a young student requires the most.... personal touch, interaction, and pressure.
As it is most of the people here are geek already... without being taught by a bot. I hate to think what the next generation of geeks would look like who may not even know what a school-friend means....
You know you are geek when you have 23 friends... 22 of which are from IRC, and the last one is your UPS delivery agent whom you meet every other day.
I think this issue is not new. And every Admin who has installed SSH knows this drawback. However SSH/SSL is still better off than non-encrypted channel any day. It is definitely not acceptable for an E-Commerce solution. I don't think I'll ever transfer a million dollars using SSL technology. Its too much of a risk still. I don't care how many bits it supports.
I have implemented Cache engines/proxy servers. And its pretty simple to setup a trojan there which could in theory decrypt SSL... I think we will see more of these kinds of trojan attacks over SSL in the near future. There is not much one can do to avoid it. Nothing that I can think off.
Since the number of keys are exponentially rising I think some work needs to be done in refining the implementation of this technology.
1. To begin with, as the author of this article says, Force Expiration of all keys. No key should exist for ever. Its like junk yard in space after the satellites break down. The junk has to be removed eventually. Its better if we start now.
2. I think some time back there was some work done in distributing PGP keys in DNS records. This could in effect make SSH more secure. If I were to use the KISS principle I'd make SSH clients to auto-register its keys in the local DNS somehow.
3. Same with SSL. By default Browsers should reject SSL keys if its not signed by a CA. Exceptions could be made if it can be verified atleast by using a reverse lookup on DNS.. or something like that. However that doesn't mean that the proxy server cannot sniff DNS requests and forge it too... NEway... its just an idea. May be we should reject everything not signed by a CA.
OK.. that were weird ideas... I don't think anyone can be serious enough to go all the way, because I personally can't think of implementing such a complicated solution for my clients.
Can you imagine a world without Trees ?
Or a world without water ?
a world without Cellphones ?
Or how about a world world in darkness ?
Can there be a world without Hope ?
Or a world without GOD ?
Wouldn't people just get crushed ?
That they know we are all in 'The Matrix' ?
Shhh... don't even think about it,
Santa is the best kept secret in this world,
on which hopes depend on..
bringing gifts to kids.. and sanity to older folks.
"As Linux zealots are beginning to find out, it's a lot easier to masquerade as a better
product than it is to go out and be one."
I agree with that statement, and I believe that the Linux community has done an
admirable job in many ways on both counts. In closing, I propose to the security
community and to Mr. Moody that what is true for products is sometimes true for
journalists as well.
Now lets see how moody feels about that satement:)
I think Fred forgot to look at the other side of the coin.
1. Any OPEN SOURCE software will have MORE bugs discovered.
2. Which means lesser bugs to fight with when lives depend on it.
3. How are NT bugs discovered ? Only when something breaks or only when people try brute forcing a DLL to crash. Linux is like a DES code which need not be cracked... the Key is widely available. Any OS which is closed is like a locked pandora's box almost ready to explode.
4. NT is tightly coupled OS, if something breaks then it effects almost every aspect of the server (usually) which is unlike Linux in which most of the bugs going to bugtraq are specific application specific bugs, most of which isn't even installed and arn't related to anything else on the server.
I'm sure he had his reasons to say what he did. But its incomplete unless you look at both the sides.
1. Open source is only as much chaotic as the maintainers want it to be. I've tried developing for open GNU products and belive me when I say it, it is a pain in the *** to get a patch built into the main code for some people, and for the others the maintainers don't even think twice. Still there are others where 10 different groups have 10 different tree of the same code and try to merge them every few months... this is chaotic. However the linux kernel is one of the best maintained opensource projects I've noticed... if you could just imagine how many people are contributing to it you would appretiate what "linux" actually means.
2."Trust" again is a weird word. Do you trust MS on Office2000 ? How do you know they don't have a code in there which will turn you into a borg ? Atleast I'm sure linux kernel doesn't have anything like that... and millions of people who have seen, studied, and written to the code can vouch for it.
3.Again, the word opensource need not mean that the development is also opensource. I think there are too many journalists out there who mixup words like "opensource", "open development" and "freeware". Whats common to all opensource is that it can be seen and studied by everyone. MSIE is free, but not open at all. And the problem of "trust" which you spoke about involves only in situations where development is also open. For example Plan 9, from lucent is a closed development... (I think this is a good example).
The way I look at it is that, if something is not chaotic then its probably invisible to you. Nothing in this world is perfect... chaos is a relative term... and I don't care if linux development is chaotic... 'cause it works for me.
Lucent is not the only one which failed to get commercial advantage from a project like this one. Lots of companies all over the world have tons of reasearch material which never make out to the open even if it failed to be of any good to them. Its nice to see that Lucent has taken a lead in this effort.
1. good customer support. I don't want someone shouting at me because I called 3 am in the morning. Deal with it, the world doesn't stop. I'd prefer a organization which admits errors and try to fix it rather than those who claim nothing is wrong and put a "all-is-well" smile when the network stinks.:) 2. less downtime. Anything less than 24hrs downtime in a day is good:) but I'll prefer the ones which stay up longer than that. Ultimately it boils down to how much revenue u are loosing becuase of the downtime. 3. accessable on phone/physically. If you can't call them up for a mid-night emergency reboot, then whats the point ? 4. secure cages/racks. I'll not go to an ISP which doesn't ask for my ID when I enter(atleast for the first few times). And I hope all the cages/racks don't have the same key:) (yes its happened before) 5. big backbone. Just incase... prepare for the slashdot effect. 6. multiple backbone connectivity. prepare for the DDoS too:) 7. secondary DNS support. Prepare for HDD crashes... 8. multiple installation sites... for distributed hosting. If you really become big... distribute it among all over the country or world.
I don't know whether you consider India as third world, but if it is, I just wish to make a few points about how acceptable it is in India.
1. I remember hearing about internet in India as long back as in 1980's and if I'm right, India did have its own network before internet came in.
2. The present Indian Government, spearheaded the commercialization of Internet in India.
3. The only outcry I heard during the transission was from goverment bodies (telecom) who were loosing money in the privatization. However the democratic goverment made sure that Internet grew at its own pace with full support from the central goverment.
4. I hear that Cyber laws are already in effect in India, and that credit card transaction, which was no no without a physical signature is now used widely on Indian internet sites.
5. China has been politically forcing ISPs to filter sites based on content, and I hear that in India too goverment has made an effort to block some sites. Some examples of sites blocked are those providing voice over IP. However I'm yet to hear of goverment taking up action to close down sites due to cultural reasons.
6. There have been a few incidents of local goverment bodies shutting down some movies due to cultural impact, but it has little impact as the Supreme court has always managed to do justice at the end. I guess Internet too will take the same path if someone does try to do something that stupid.
In short, there are cultural implications, but there is a gradual change in perception due to a firm backing of major political parties.
Just a note, incase someone didn't know, I think something like this happens every 11 years periodically. And unlike that last time, this time I'm sure we have lot more satellites. I remember when the hughes satellite malfuntioned a sometime back which caused a lot of pagers to stop working. I hope you people take steps to have alternative communication mechanism means ready. Atleast start using land lines and find out where the nearest post office is located.
1) Apache will have a slashdot.o module to check whether the site its running is mentioned on slashdot, and if so alert the owner of the site about the disaster and ask him to shut off all routers leading to that machine.
2) Goverment will ban sites like Slashdot becuase of the slashdot effect...
3) CheckPoint will have patches to check slashdot periodically to find out if the sudden traffic is due to a DOS or SDE (SlashDot Effect)
4) NSA will make a ruling that no news site may offer the same news at the same time to more than 1 million people at the same time. So slashdot would have to add new authors so that they have enough news to take care of the news hungry geeks.
5) HACKERS of the world will unite and take over Slashdot, to put the name of the site they want to take down on the slashdot page.... SLASHDOT is the next big thing after Distributed computing... Distributed DOS
Finally
6) Government secretly gives a few OC48 and a few super computers to Slashdot just to keep the news hungry geeks busy.... [and hopes slashdot stops mentioning www.whitehouse.gov everytime they wanna protest against NET policies]
Had a good day reading about these attacks... I donno whats next. I think its time to switch to doing some network security stuff... I can start with filtering the advertisements on top of the slashdot page:)
Slashdot Mirror
I still mirror this great email thread.... http://security.royans.net/info/posts/linux_is_obs olete.shtml
I remember the last time changes were made... scoop wrote back saying that he was close to loosing his control over freeks who couldn't stop bitching.
Just like Someone yesterday asked "Can linus kill linux"? The answer is Yes... but do you anyone would kill his own baby/creation ? NO
If someone does something to his own creation/baby, its because it means a great deal to him/her.
So comming back to this issue of Freshmeat, I think people should appretiate what scoop is doing rather than bitch about the changes. He is here to make your life easy not to give you reasons to bitch. If you can't handle it, just get the hell out of here. This is the Internet. Changes are supposed to happen. You would be in a stone age if it was not for some freeks who designed the first stone Tool
So grab a mug of coffee (or milk if u want) and enjoy the new look... and if you don't like it, dont even bother to logon the net. You are ancient.
This is pretty close to what scientists think about about god.
"Does god play dice ?"
What would you do if God did play dice ?
You can't do anything. You have to trust your insticts and hope it won't happen.
Personally, I don't think someone as bright and selfless as Linus could do this. And to bring up a question like this in itself a slap on the face. How can you ever say anything like that to anyone ? If Lenardo da' vinci destroyed all his paintings it would have had most effect on him himself. And a person like that wouldn't do that untill he feels totally help less !!
You should not be talking about taking away power from linus. You should be talking about giving more power and resource to linus instead.
I am ashamed this question ever came up on slashdot. However, I hope next time this question would be phrased with the right words next time.
regards,
rkt
You are missing the most obvious use of this technology. A transparent transistor and transparent screen is one step closer to perfect hologram image, or 3D image.
Layers of transparent 2D screens can be combined at different distances to provide a psuedo 3D image.
If this transistor really becomes cheap and if its really transparent, then I'd imagine someone would make a solid block out of it and make the first perfect 3D television...
I know what I need for next christmas now..
Thats a lame proposition. How do you think governmnets work ? Everytime you buy are car you pay tax... we pay something around 7 to 8 % in US. That doesn't mean that we should go copying cars... no... thats not what its for. They are used to build roads...etc. The reason why some things are not taxed is because government things that its better for the progress/growth for something to be tax free... as it could fuel economy. In India gasoline is subsidised... just like many outer contries.. how do you think goverment gets money for that ? Yes... from the so called "copying-tax-for-blank-cds".
There are many ways of calling a government lame.. but this is not one of them.
They might have seen it in a diff way.
1. May be Blank CDs are no more fueling economy.
2. May be there was a subsidy attached to the raw material which the CD manufacturers use. And gorvernment now thinks that it should compensate for the loss.
3. May be government is trying to promote people from buying "processed" CDs so that there is more tax on that...
This is very normal... there is nothing to be concerned here. What I am interested to know is why they changed thier minds all of a sudden.
In a dramatic new development, Microsoft officials confirmed the reports that next version of Microsoft windows will have tools which will force Users to single machine. The user would have to buy additional lisences to work on other computers at his home.
Every new computer come with a nylon strap which can be used to tie the computer to the users back. If you want a "carry-around" version of the 21" monitors, you would have to pay $$$$$ more to get a mountable LCD screen.
Though MS recomends using the supplied nylon straps, the users are free to use networking cables of phone line cables. However that would void the license agreement.
Users are also warned that the new software would explode if the user tries to un-tie the strap.
The the user wishes to use two computers, he would not only have to buy two liscences, but would also need a double-stacker on his back which can stack two computers at the same time. Tough it would be advisable to use a Terminal Switch to switch between two machines, the user can carry around two monitors if he or she wishes.
I hope that helps... MS is also comming out with a computer game called, ms-football. The computers which are made for the game are made of titanium alloy and are mounted "tie"d to the back of the player. The objective of the game is to finish the game without breaking straps which tie you to the computer.
1) Percentage of bugs as compared to micr0s0ft windoze. :)
... NEway... I don't care what you think... I'm off to get the latest...
2) Number of CPUs required to run a competitor OS at the same speed.
3) Number of people who really though it was a quick release
4) Number of people (in billions) who have been waiting for past year.
5) Number of hardware support still missing from the kernel.
6) Number of cans of beers you need to get over the release ( for heavy drinkers, multiply by 10)
7) Number of messages linus will get per minute over the next couple of months to thank him for another release...
The guy who said that, Dewang Mehta, is head of a group of Technology Industries. He is not a hacker himself, and I don't think the hackers themselves said anything. The article mainly speaks about the open-mindedness of the Indian industries over this issue. For one they are clear about the difference between a "hacker" and a "cracker". This is a big step in itself. It was a late jesture, now that many indian websites have been hacked in the past few weeks, but neverthless its still a right step. its better than letting those kids go wild cracking other sites... ...empty brain is a devils playground.
rkt
That reminds me of the movie "Class of 2000" where robots teach a class of students. However that was for a different reason....
CBT and web based training is already popular. However they don't provide what a young student requires the most.... personal touch, interaction, and pressure.
As it is most of the people here are geek already... without being taught by a bot. I hate to think what the next generation of geeks would look like who may not even know what a school-friend means....
You know you are geek when you have 23 friends... 22 of which are from IRC, and the last one is your UPS delivery agent whom you meet every other day.
rkt
I think this issue is not new. And every Admin who has installed SSH knows this drawback. However SSH/SSL is still better off than non-encrypted channel any day. It is definitely not acceptable for an E-Commerce solution. I don't think I'll ever transfer a million dollars using SSL technology. Its too much of a risk still. I don't care how many bits it supports.
I have implemented Cache engines/proxy servers. And its pretty simple to setup a trojan there which could in theory decrypt SSL... I think we will see more of these kinds of trojan attacks over SSL in the near future. There is not much one can do to avoid it. Nothing that I can think off.
Since the number of keys are exponentially rising I think some work needs to be done in refining the implementation of this technology.
1. To begin with, as the author of this article says, Force Expiration of all keys. No key should exist for ever. Its like junk yard in space after the satellites break down. The junk has to be removed eventually. Its better if we start now.
2. I think some time back there was some work done in distributing PGP keys in DNS records. This could in effect make SSH more secure. If I were to use the KISS principle I'd make SSH clients to auto-register its keys in the local DNS somehow.
3. Same with SSL. By default Browsers should reject SSL keys if its not signed by a CA. Exceptions could be made if it can be verified atleast by using a reverse lookup on DNS.. or something like that. However that doesn't mean that the proxy server cannot sniff DNS requests and forge it too... NEway... its just an idea. May be we should reject everything not signed by a CA.
OK.. that were weird ideas... I don't think anyone can be serious enough to go all the way, because I personally can't think of implementing such a complicated solution for my clients.
rkt
Can you imagine a world without Trees ?
Or a world without water ?
a world without Cellphones ?
Or how about a world world in darkness ?
Can there be a world without Hope ?
Or a world without GOD ?
Wouldn't people just get crushed ?
That they know we are all in 'The Matrix' ?
Shhh... don't even think about it,
Santa is the best kept secret in this world,
on which hopes depend on..
bringing gifts to kids.. and sanity to older folks.
long live santa... and my gift list.
From next time you should submit atleast the abstract of the article. Atleast I can't sleep tonight cause I my favourite beer page was slashdotted !!
"As Linux zealots are beginning to find out, it's a lot easier to masquerade as a better
:)
product than it is to go out and be one."
I agree with that statement, and I believe that the Linux community has done an
admirable job in many ways on both counts. In closing, I propose to the security
community and to Mr. Moody that what is true for products is sometimes true for
journalists as well.
Now lets see how moody feels about that satement
rkt
I think Fred forgot to look at the other side of the coin.
1. Any OPEN SOURCE software will have MORE bugs discovered.
2. Which means lesser bugs to fight with when lives depend on it.
3. How are NT bugs discovered ? Only when something breaks or only when people try brute forcing a DLL to crash. Linux is like a DES code which need not be cracked... the Key is widely available. Any OS which is closed is like a locked pandora's box almost ready to explode.
4. NT is tightly coupled OS, if something breaks then it effects almost every aspect of the server (usually) which is unlike Linux in which most of the bugs going to bugtraq are specific application specific bugs, most of which isn't even installed and arn't related to anything else on the server.
my 2 cents...
rkt
I'm sure he had his reasons to say what he did. But its incomplete unless you look at both the sides.
1. Open source is only as much chaotic as the maintainers want it to be. I've tried developing for open GNU products and belive me when I say it, it is a pain in the *** to get a patch built into the main code for some people, and for the others the maintainers don't even think twice. Still there are others where 10 different groups have 10 different tree of the same code and try to merge them every few months... this is chaotic. However the linux kernel is one of the best maintained opensource projects I've noticed... if you could just imagine how many people are contributing to it you would appretiate what "linux" actually means.
2."Trust" again is a weird word. Do you trust MS on Office2000 ? How do you know they don't have a code in there which will turn you into a borg ? Atleast I'm sure linux kernel doesn't have anything like that... and millions of people who have seen, studied, and written to the code can vouch for it.
3.Again, the word opensource need not mean that the development is also opensource. I think there are too many journalists out there who mixup words like "opensource", "open development" and "freeware". Whats common to all opensource is that it can be seen and studied by everyone. MSIE is free, but not open at all. And the problem of "trust" which you spoke about involves only in situations where development is also open. For example Plan 9, from lucent is a closed development... (I think this is a good example).
The way I look at it is that, if something is not chaotic then its probably invisible to you. Nothing in this world is perfect... chaos is a relative term... and I don't care if linux development is chaotic... 'cause it works for me.
rkt
Lucent is not the only one which failed to get commercial advantage from a project like this one. Lots of companies all over the world have tons of reasearch material which never make out to the open even if it failed to be of any good to them. Its nice to see that Lucent has taken a lead in this effort.
1. good customer support. I don't want someone shouting at me because I called 3 am in the morning. Deal with it, the world doesn't stop. I'd prefer a organization which admits errors and try to fix it rather than those who claim nothing is wrong and put a "all-is-well" smile when the network stinks. :) :) but I'll prefer the ones which stay up longer than that. Ultimately it boils down to how much revenue u are loosing becuase of the downtime. :) (yes its happened before) :)
:))
2. less downtime. Anything less than 24hrs downtime in a day is good
3. accessable on phone/physically. If you can't call them up for a mid-night emergency reboot, then whats the point ?
4. secure cages/racks. I'll not go to an ISP which doesn't ask for my ID when I enter(atleast for the first few times). And I hope all the cages/racks don't have the same key
5. big backbone. Just incase... prepare for the slashdot effect.
6. multiple backbone connectivity. prepare for the DDoS too
7. secondary DNS support. Prepare for HDD crashes...
8. multiple installation sites... for distributed hosting. If you really become big... distribute it among all over the country or world.
9. I forgot... make sure you don't go bankrupt
So whats next ? Noise polutions in the seas ?
heh... I wonder whether the dolphin/whale listenners will change jobs and become hackers decoding enemy messages.
rkt
hey common... since when was forgery removed from the list of crimes. Any kind of forgery is a crime, unless its for the good of the entire mankind.
p.s. I'm a borg. I just forged myself to be a human.
heh...
another good reason for people to switch to unix.
rkt
I don't know whether you consider India as third world, but if it is, I just wish to make a few points about how acceptable it is in India.
1. I remember hearing about internet in India as long back as in 1980's and if I'm right, India did have its own network before internet came in.
2. The present Indian Government, spearheaded the commercialization of Internet in India.
3. The only outcry I heard during the transission was from goverment bodies (telecom) who were loosing money in the privatization. However the democratic goverment made sure that Internet grew at its own pace with full support from the central goverment.
4. I hear that Cyber laws are already in effect in India, and that credit card transaction, which was no no without a physical signature is now used widely on Indian internet sites.
5. China has been politically forcing ISPs to filter sites based on content, and I hear that in India too goverment has made an effort to block some sites. Some examples of sites blocked are those providing voice over IP. However I'm yet to hear of goverment taking up action to close down sites due to cultural reasons.
6. There have been a few incidents of local goverment bodies shutting down some movies due to cultural impact, but it has little impact as the Supreme court has always managed to do justice at the end. I guess Internet too will take the same path if someone does try to do something that stupid.
In short, there are cultural implications, but there is a gradual change in perception due to a firm backing of major political parties.
rkt
IF are want to compare an equivalent product from microsoft, you should be looking at VC++ or something like that.
rkt
heh... yea I am facing the same problem.
:) most of the
but I don't think its related
internet is too fast to go over the satellites.
Just a note, incase someone didn't know, I think something like this happens every 11 years periodically. And unlike that last time, this time I'm sure we have lot more satellites. I remember when the hughes satellite malfuntioned a sometime back which caused a lot of pagers to stop working. I hope you people take steps to have alternative communication mechanism means ready. Atleast start using land lines and find out where the nearest post office is located.
rkt
This is funny, but I think someday
:)
1) Apache will have a slashdot.o module to check whether the site its running is mentioned on slashdot, and if so alert the owner of the site about the disaster and ask him to shut off all routers leading to that machine.
2) Goverment will ban sites like Slashdot becuase of the slashdot effect...
3) CheckPoint will have patches to check slashdot periodically to find out if the sudden traffic is due to a DOS or SDE (SlashDot Effect)
4) NSA will make a ruling that no news site may offer the same news at the same time to more than 1 million people at the same time. So slashdot would have to add new authors so that they have enough news to take care of the news hungry geeks.
5) HACKERS of the world will unite and take over Slashdot, to put the name of the site they want to take down on the slashdot page.... SLASHDOT is the next big thing after Distributed computing... Distributed DOS
Finally
6) Government secretly gives a few OC48 and a few super computers to Slashdot just to keep the news hungry geeks busy.... [and hopes slashdot stops mentioning www.whitehouse.gov everytime they wanna protest against NET policies]
Had a good day reading about these attacks... I donno whats next. I think its time to switch to doing some network security stuff... I can start with filtering the advertisements on top of the slashdot page
Have Fun,
rkt