imagine if he did it here. He'd probably be shot down by some trigger-happy f-16 pilot if he got anywhere close to an air force base, even if the FAA ever certified him as a pilot or the helicopter as an aerial vehicle. Still, it doesn't hurt to dream. I'm just waiting for the story about how some high-schooler mounted a paintball machine gun on the side to harass people.
okay, let me clarify: What makes it so appealing to a 15-year old high schooler or hardcore gamer not using a server or mainframe of any sort. What makes it appealing to the common geek?
So swearing is good for you? Personally, I believe that there is nothing wrong with swearing. What are swear words but various words that people are taught to take offense to? What does "shit" mean? Excrement. But why is one way to express a bodily function more offensive that another word that means the same thing. Same story with "fuck" and "intercourse."
But really, I'm just waiting for someone at a high school somewhere to sue for the right to swear at school.
Britain, hell Europe. I'm currently attending a high school in South Dakota, and every year we have approximately 5 or 6 foreign exchange students, almost exclusively from Germany. Just 2 or 3 years ago, a foreign exchange student was killed when she went to a party with her host family's son, there was drinking involved, and he let her drive home. Needless to say, it did not end well. He was in the hospital, and she was in the morgue the next morning. This year, another german foreign exchange student was talking to me about the exam in Europe. She said that the driving age over there is relative to the drinking age over here, if people actually obeyed the drinking age law. She also said that it costs as much as a cheap car just to get into the class. It is taken very seriously in Germany, and they do their best to ensure all drivers are as good as the government can possibly make them.
my only question is how people can argue about a fictional vehicle from a fictional movie from a fictional franchise. IT'S A FREAKING X-WING!!!! It was created for one purpose: Give the rebels a kick-ass ship to kick the empire's TIE fighters and the death star. I seriously doubt the prop team was thinking "okay, lets give them moving s-foils, with inverted wings, so that they will be able to maneuver in atmosphereic flight. With the wings opened, it will increase vaccuum manueverability as well as a more stable platform for their weapons." Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge star wars fan.
The first video games I ever played were X-wing, Roge squadron, and another one with the v-wing. But I'm not going to let me love of the x-wing be tainted by smart people that tell me that the x-wing couldn't possibly fly. Everything can fly. Somethings just stay in the air longer after going off a cliff.
I'm just waiting to see if it comes close to an Air Force base when they test it. If they continue flying it, somethings tells me the military might take exception to a remote controlled aircraft powered by 4 rocket engines. Better hope this x-wing has one hell of a protection system for anti-aircraft weapons.
You can say that the problem would be pilots, but looking at it from the point of view as the son of an air force lieutenant, and a private pilot, there are hundreds of other variables. Wind speed, air pressure, temperature, turbulence, air currents,..... the list could go on for days. Could a mondern-day computer handle it? Probably. But there is a reason that the best they've gotten out of a solar powered UAV is slightly over 50 hours.
I can imagine the conversation between the astronaut and the engineer.
"This thing gonna fly?"
"The computer said it would."
"But is it gonna fly?"
"The simulations said so."
"Are we still using that crappy foam?"
"Um, I don't think we could find another supplier in time."
"Great."
"On the other hand, we made sure that no former astronauts will be stalking you when you get back to earth."
But how do you seperate the wheat from the chaff? How do you know what one person's abilities are until they are tested? They might go through life without ever learning that they have a knack for somethihng. Unless we try to educate teenagers in the programming sense, we might not see the enormous potential some of them might have. It is hard, but with teenagers, you can never assume anything. So watch them. Teach them. With time, some will become better at things than all of us are.
As long as we have MacGyver and CHuck Norris, the robots will never win. didn't you ever watch either show as a child? You really think that robots could beat both of them combined?
"We're not talking about problem solving skills, we're talking about programming skills."
To create better programs and software, don't you need to have both?
"In order for teens to start programming en masse you would have to lower the barrier to entry. That's the same thing as saying let people who don't quite understand it jumble it together."
Or just have them read Programming for dummies. And who said en masse? You don't necessarily need many to come up with a piece of software that would revolutionize the industry. My point is, to become fluent in a programming language today would be much easier than 3 or 4 years ago. Therefore, while you will not have hordes of adolescents trying to crash google with crappy viruses, there will be a few that have taken the time to learn a skill which seems to be extremely valuable in todays job market.
"Learning to program is just scratching the surface. There are parallel disciplines that can only be understood in reference to programming by experience. The education process CAN NOT instill this knowledge."
Maybe not, but you cannot tell me that no teenager who has learned to program will not attempt to master these skills.
"So, a large influx of inexperienced programmers using low entry tools will have a negative effect on the quality of work."
Yes, there will be a surge in the quanity of crappy work. But I would bet that for the hundreds of programs that aren't worth anything, one will become famous. Amoung 99 incredibly stupid ideas, there will be one that is simply genius. It's the way humans work, and how we have accomplished all we have as a species.
No, but that doesn't mean that it isn't worth anything. It's a scientific fact that teenage brains work differently than adult brains, other than the fact that they have more brain cells. Teenagers have a different perspective on things that adults might not have, and solve a problem easily that's stumped adults for years. It's all in the thinking. Just because some might act like fools doesn't mean that all will.
Or have a computer play one chess game against a human, and then 2 rounds of kickboxing. We'll see who wins, algorithms or a chuck norris round-house kick.
Yeah. If you want to know the best course of action, sell everything you have, cut off all communication with mankind, and go live like a hillbilly in montana.
Thats the problem, isn't it. First off, Linux. Why hasn't it overthrown Microsoft? Talking to several people, I would have to say tech knowledge. It requires some knowledge and technical skill that many have, but don't care to exploit.
Though you also argue about programmers never being able to work together, I believe it can be done. Moreover, I KNOW it can be done. Look at wikipedia. An open website, where anyone can contribute information about a subject. Now, looking at your statement about egos at the door, you would think that wikipedia would be overwhelmed by people continually posting what they believe is right, but, lo and behold, it does. Try posting something completely stupid on wikipedia. Before you know it, it has been changed back by an army of people who believe in keeping wikipedia informative, to the point, and just plain good. Will it happen soon? probably not. But as programming skills become more common, the odds for OSS continually grow better.
Why, just because they're teenagers? Hell, if a teenager is capable of creating a decent application from scratch, or even by piecing together bits of multiple programs, I believe that they would have the sense to create something that is worthwhile, entertaining, or both. God knows I wouldn't waste the time to program something if it wasn't useful or fun.
Yes, but because you are a person interested in the subject, and Ebay IS the subject in a sense, your suggestion will be ignored even though it is probably the best idea out there. Heck, even if the vast majority of Ebay users said this, they probably wouldn't do that.
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imagine if he did it here. He'd probably be shot down by some trigger-happy f-16 pilot if he got anywhere close to an air force base, even if the FAA ever certified him as a pilot or the helicopter as an aerial vehicle. Still, it doesn't hurt to dream. I'm just waiting for the story about how some high-schooler mounted a paintball machine gun on the side to harass people.
okay, let me clarify: What makes it so appealing to a 15-year old high schooler or hardcore gamer not using a server or mainframe of any sort. What makes it appealing to the common geek?
Okay, so it's evergy efficent. That'll make al gore happy. anything for the rest of us?
I know what to do about it. SUE THE BASTARDS!!!
So swearing is good for you? Personally, I believe that there is nothing wrong with swearing. What are swear words but various words that people are taught to take offense to? What does "shit" mean? Excrement. But why is one way to express a bodily function more offensive that another word that means the same thing. Same story with "fuck" and "intercourse." But really, I'm just waiting for someone at a high school somewhere to sue for the right to swear at school.
Britain, hell Europe. I'm currently attending a high school in South Dakota, and every year we have approximately 5 or 6 foreign exchange students, almost exclusively from Germany. Just 2 or 3 years ago, a foreign exchange student was killed when she went to a party with her host family's son, there was drinking involved, and he let her drive home. Needless to say, it did not end well. He was in the hospital, and she was in the morgue the next morning. This year, another german foreign exchange student was talking to me about the exam in Europe. She said that the driving age over there is relative to the drinking age over here, if people actually obeyed the drinking age law. She also said that it costs as much as a cheap car just to get into the class. It is taken very seriously in Germany, and they do their best to ensure all drivers are as good as the government can possibly make them.
my only question is how people can argue about a fictional vehicle from a fictional movie from a fictional franchise. IT'S A FREAKING X-WING!!!! It was created for one purpose: Give the rebels a kick-ass ship to kick the empire's TIE fighters and the death star. I seriously doubt the prop team was thinking "okay, lets give them moving s-foils, with inverted wings, so that they will be able to maneuver in atmosphereic flight. With the wings opened, it will increase vaccuum manueverability as well as a more stable platform for their weapons." Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge star wars fan. The first video games I ever played were X-wing, Roge squadron, and another one with the v-wing. But I'm not going to let me love of the x-wing be tainted by smart people that tell me that the x-wing couldn't possibly fly. Everything can fly. Somethings just stay in the air longer after going off a cliff.
I'm just waiting to see if it comes close to an Air Force base when they test it. If they continue flying it, somethings tells me the military might take exception to a remote controlled aircraft powered by 4 rocket engines. Better hope this x-wing has one hell of a protection system for anti-aircraft weapons.
Next thing you know, they're going to be claiming that they have MCS and cannot work or live in a hostile environment.
I'm just waiting for the first reports of an alien bursting out of someones chest to hit the media.
You can say that the problem would be pilots, but looking at it from the point of view as the son of an air force lieutenant, and a private pilot, there are hundreds of other variables. Wind speed, air pressure, temperature, turbulence, air currents, ..... the list could go on for days. Could a mondern-day computer handle it? Probably. But there is a reason that the best they've gotten out of a solar powered UAV is slightly over 50 hours.
I can imagine the conversation between the astronaut and the engineer. "This thing gonna fly?" "The computer said it would." "But is it gonna fly?" "The simulations said so." "Are we still using that crappy foam?" "Um, I don't think we could find another supplier in time." "Great." "On the other hand, we made sure that no former astronauts will be stalking you when you get back to earth."
But how do you seperate the wheat from the chaff? How do you know what one person's abilities are until they are tested? They might go through life without ever learning that they have a knack for somethihng. Unless we try to educate teenagers in the programming sense, we might not see the enormous potential some of them might have. It is hard, but with teenagers, you can never assume anything. So watch them. Teach them. With time, some will become better at things than all of us are.
As long as we have MacGyver and CHuck Norris, the robots will never win. didn't you ever watch either show as a child? You really think that robots could beat both of them combined?
"We're not talking about problem solving skills, we're talking about programming skills." To create better programs and software, don't you need to have both? "In order for teens to start programming en masse you would have to lower the barrier to entry. That's the same thing as saying let people who don't quite understand it jumble it together." Or just have them read Programming for dummies. And who said en masse? You don't necessarily need many to come up with a piece of software that would revolutionize the industry. My point is, to become fluent in a programming language today would be much easier than 3 or 4 years ago. Therefore, while you will not have hordes of adolescents trying to crash google with crappy viruses, there will be a few that have taken the time to learn a skill which seems to be extremely valuable in todays job market. "Learning to program is just scratching the surface. There are parallel disciplines that can only be understood in reference to programming by experience. The education process CAN NOT instill this knowledge." Maybe not, but you cannot tell me that no teenager who has learned to program will not attempt to master these skills. "So, a large influx of inexperienced programmers using low entry tools will have a negative effect on the quality of work." Yes, there will be a surge in the quanity of crappy work. But I would bet that for the hundreds of programs that aren't worth anything, one will become famous. Amoung 99 incredibly stupid ideas, there will be one that is simply genius. It's the way humans work, and how we have accomplished all we have as a species.
No, but that doesn't mean that it isn't worth anything. It's a scientific fact that teenage brains work differently than adult brains, other than the fact that they have more brain cells. Teenagers have a different perspective on things that adults might not have, and solve a problem easily that's stumped adults for years. It's all in the thinking. Just because some might act like fools doesn't mean that all will.
Or have a computer play one chess game against a human, and then 2 rounds of kickboxing. We'll see who wins, algorithms or a chuck norris round-house kick.
Yeah. If you want to know the best course of action, sell everything you have, cut off all communication with mankind, and go live like a hillbilly in montana.
oh. guess this doesn't bide too well for my reputation as a researcher, huh?
Thats the problem, isn't it. First off, Linux. Why hasn't it overthrown Microsoft? Talking to several people, I would have to say tech knowledge. It requires some knowledge and technical skill that many have, but don't care to exploit. Though you also argue about programmers never being able to work together, I believe it can be done. Moreover, I KNOW it can be done. Look at wikipedia. An open website, where anyone can contribute information about a subject. Now, looking at your statement about egos at the door, you would think that wikipedia would be overwhelmed by people continually posting what they believe is right, but, lo and behold, it does. Try posting something completely stupid on wikipedia. Before you know it, it has been changed back by an army of people who believe in keeping wikipedia informative, to the point, and just plain good. Will it happen soon? probably not. But as programming skills become more common, the odds for OSS continually grow better.
Why, just because they're teenagers? Hell, if a teenager is capable of creating a decent application from scratch, or even by piecing together bits of multiple programs, I believe that they would have the sense to create something that is worthwhile, entertaining, or both. God knows I wouldn't waste the time to program something if it wasn't useful or fun.
Is it, or is it just another company designed to aid Microsoft's plan to rule the world?
Not to mention the thousands of brain cells that might die when reading Google, Wikipedia, and Internet Movie Database.
Forget hybrids. If I want good mileage, I'll drive a GEO. Plus, if I get in a crash, I can find a replacement for less than $1,000.
Yes, but because you are a person interested in the subject, and Ebay IS the subject in a sense, your suggestion will be ignored even though it is probably the best idea out there. Heck, even if the vast majority of Ebay users said this, they probably wouldn't do that.