I disagree, unless you want netbsd on a CPU that is not supported by 1.4.x , the reason 1.5 is not a complete os yet. It still has quite a few bugs to work out . I would only recomend useing 1.5beta2 if you dont have to worry about loseing any important things on your harddrive. 1.5beta2 is made for developers of the NetBSD project.
which is why 1.5 is still in beta(-current) mode. Its still not 'all there yet'
NetBSD- Run on any CPU
FreeBSD- Optimized to run on X86 , and DEC/alpha, and ease of use
OpenBSD- Based mainly on NetBSD , Its main 'thing' is security.
BSDi- Commerical support
So why do we need 4major BSD's? The exact same reason we have 100's of flavors of linux! The FREEDOM of choice, software , etc etc.
Also , there is NO 'better' , like i said before , it is Freedom of choice. Which I think it is GREAT we have 4 major flavors of BSD! Because it provides direct competition, also source share, which will in the end bring a better o/s! (well all except for BSDi , cuz you cant steal source from them) I read the change logs quite often and alot of thing say 'taken from XXXBSD'
well isnt that special.
well what do you know. FreeBSD does the EXACT same thing! it downloads all the dependants. and everything , next time do some research before you
troll.
i see you say things like you say you dont want to wait on it to compile. well pkg_add -r gimp ? it downloads the binary and installs it. With ALL dependencies.
upgradeing is also a breeze.. 'cvsup stable-supfile' its that simple.
bash-2.04$ uname -a
FreeBSD slaughter.necro.edu 4.2-STABLE FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #0: Mon Nov 20 21:00:17 EST 2000 ahze@slaughter.necro.edu:/usr/src/sys/compile/whor e i386
first off , freebsd releases a daily snapshot which is tested by 100's of people DAILY!
Sure there is a few bugs to work out. But if you would please tell me 1 o/s that doesnt have bugs to work out.But I gurantee you this , there is not a boot bug. there is too much testing done to release something of that poor quility.
yeah , but isnt it nice to have an elf system or
even ata-100 which is now supported in 4.2 and well and even ata-66! I know thats not supported in 2.2 , better pcm sound support? md5 password files, updated ide drivers for faster r/w access.
ssh on the default install.
What about USB kernel support? And then theres ipv6, which we will all be useing in the near future.
What about SMP on FreeBSD 5? which is in -CURRENT right now, FreeBSD is reworking the whole smp code based on BSDi's.
Would'nt this have some interference? I mean it might be flat for a reason. Maybe like the way ethernet cable has 8 wires but only uses 4? Theres a reason for that.
Even windows updates are Free! why would ANYONE want to pay for this?
btw i dont mean from like windows 95 to 98 just general updates from http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com, LIKE redhat is gonna do , Im guess you CAN get a binary KERNEL if theres an exploit..
pre might help =x
deb http://slaughter.necro.edu/~ahze/debian unstable main
#evolution-email
#deb http://www.debian.org/~vincent/Incoming/./
deb ftp://ftp.helixcode.com/helix/evolution/distributi ons/Debian/.//
#deb-unoffical
deb ftp://ntama.uni-mainz.de/pub/debian unofficial/
#deb ftp://ftp.freshmeat.net/pub/debs./
#freshmeat doesnt have any yet.. but i emailed snoop and he said they are gonna put some up soon
#wine
deb http://www.hungrycats.org/%7Edrunkard/debian drunkard main
#ipv6
deb ftp://ftp.ipv6.nl/pub debian/
deb http://www.debian.org/~ajt/ipv6/ ipv6 unstable
deb http://www.debian.org/~kitame/ipv6/ ipv6 unstable
forgot a few
#ipv6
deb ftp://ftp.ipv6.nl/pub debian/
deb http://www.debian.org/~ajt/ipv6/ ipv6 unstable
deb http://www.debian.org/~kitame/ipv6/ ipv6 unstabe
#wine
deb http://www.hungrycats.org/%7Edrunkard/debian drunkard main
#evolution-email
deb ftp://ftp.helixcode.com/helix/evolution/distributi ons/Debian/.//
#my stuff
deb http://slaughter.necro.edu/~ahze/debian unstable main
freebsd also has ports which bsdi does not.
I disagree, unless you want netbsd on a CPU that is not supported by 1.4.x , the reason 1.5 is not a complete os yet. It still has quite a few bugs to work out . I would only recomend useing 1.5beta2 if you dont have to worry about loseing any important things on your harddrive. 1.5beta2 is made for developers of the NetBSD project.
which is why 1.5 is still in beta(-current) mode. Its still not 'all there yet'
NetBSD- Run on any CPU
FreeBSD- Optimized to run on X86 , and DEC/alpha, and ease of use
OpenBSD- Based mainly on NetBSD , Its main 'thing' is security.
BSDi- Commerical support
So why do we need 4major BSD's? The exact same reason we have 100's of flavors of linux! The FREEDOM of choice, software , etc etc.
Also , there is NO 'better' , like i said before , it is Freedom of choice. Which I think it is GREAT we have 4 major flavors of BSD! Because it provides direct competition, also source share, which will in the end bring a better o/s! (well all except for BSDi , cuz you cant steal source from them) I read the change logs quite often and alot of thing say 'taken from XXXBSD'
Fuck is such a flexable word.
it can be used for love , anger , pain.
as in this example from Dr.Demento the Definition Of fuck.
btw. dont belive me about 4000 ports..
freshports.org check it out.
well isnt that special.
well what do you know. FreeBSD does the EXACT same thing! it downloads all the dependants. and everything , next time do some research before you troll.
i see you say things like you say you dont want to wait on it to compile. well pkg_add -r gimp ? it downloads the binary and installs it. With ALL dependencies.
upgradeing is also a breeze.. 'cvsup stable-supfile' its that simple.
there are over 4000 ports in freebsd.
no it does not install X4 by default. because of possable root exploits in XFree86 4.X but you can compile it in /usr/ports
bash-2.04$ uname -a FreeBSD slaughter.necro.edu 4.2-STABLE FreeBSDr e i386
4.2-STABLE #0: Mon Nov 20 21:00:17 EST 2000
ahze@slaughter.necro.edu:/usr/src/sys/compile/who
first off , freebsd releases a daily snapshot which is tested by 100's of people DAILY!
Sure there is a few bugs to work out. But if you would please tell me 1 o/s that doesnt have bugs to work out.But I gurantee you this , there is not a boot bug. there is too much testing done to release something of that poor quility.
heres the links to the daily snapshots. ftp://releng4.freebsd.org (for -STABLE) and for ftp://current.freebsd.org
yeah , but isnt it nice to have an elf system or even ata-100 which is now supported in 4.2 and well and even ata-66! I know thats not supported in 2.2 , better pcm sound support? md5 password files, updated ide drivers for faster r/w access. ssh on the default install. What about USB kernel support? And then theres ipv6, which we will all be useing in the near future. What about SMP on FreeBSD 5? which is in -CURRENT right now, FreeBSD is reworking the whole smp code based on BSDi's.
>It's available for free download What are you talking about? you have to pay freaking 75$ to get them to send you the cds!
Would'nt this have some interference? I mean it might be flat for a reason. Maybe like the way ethernet cable has 8 wires but only uses 4? Theres a reason for that.
Show me stats. FreeBSD is proven , osx and darwin have not been proven yet , they are still very new
thats kinda weird , because I read about it on that page.
How long has USB been supported in linux?
USB's been in freebsd for a long time.. 3.0
the devil? its a daemon.. not deamon... its not 'evil'
Even windows updates are Free! why would ANYONE want to pay for this? btw i dont mean from like windows 95 to 98 just general updates from http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com, LIKE redhat is gonna do , Im guess you CAN get a binary KERNEL if theres an exploit..
thats a prepatch ...
Has anyone tried this with freebsd linux emulation yet? Im downloading it but its pretty big , and if it dont work i wanna stop it
-release comes from the -stable branch and 'testing' is comming from the 'unstable' branch from debian..
i dunno , new gnome is stable as a rock..
pre might help =x deb http://slaughter.necro.edu/~ahze/debian unstable main #evolution-email #deb http://www.debian.org/~vincent/Incoming/ ./
deb ftp://ftp.helixcode.com/helix/evolution/distributi ons/Debian/ .//
#deb-unoffical
deb ftp://ntama.uni-mainz.de/pub/debian unofficial/
#deb ftp://ftp.freshmeat.net/pub/debs ./
#freshmeat doesnt have any yet.. but i emailed snoop and he said they are gonna put some up soon
#wine
deb http://www.hungrycats.org/%7Edrunkard/debian drunkard main
#ipv6
deb ftp://ftp.ipv6.nl/pub debian/
deb http://www.debian.org/~ajt/ipv6/ ipv6 unstable
deb http://www.debian.org/~kitame/ipv6/ ipv6 unstable
forgot a few #ipv6 deb ftp://ftp.ipv6.nl/pub debian/ deb http://www.debian.org/~ajt/ipv6/ ipv6 unstable deb http://www.debian.org/~kitame/ipv6/ ipv6 unstabe #wine deb http://www.hungrycats.org/%7Edrunkard/debian drunkard main #evolution-email deb ftp://ftp.helixcode.com/helix/evolution/distributi ons/Debian/ .//
#my stuff
deb http://slaughter.necro.edu/~ahze/debian unstable main
uhm.. it doesnt do php
Alien works pretty good , it makes tgz , rpm , deb , slp =)