give ya a real good example of this... this past winter most of North Carolina was covered in snow or several inches of hard packed ice. Millions of people were without power and heat for as much as 3 weeks or so (we had no power at my house for 17 days).
In fact, the problems with the ice were so bad that none of the localities around had comms either. All their fancy trunked systems failed because of towers coming down, repeaters losing power and running their backups down, etc etc.
The local ARES groups activated and provided what ended up being the ONLY form of communication for at least a few days until power was slowly restored. At one point in Chapel Hill, NC, ARES members were riding around in fire trucks and police vehicles because the Cops, firefighters and Paramedics couldnt use their own radios due to outages).
I realize that a lot of what is said here is due to trolling, but some of the comments I have read are of just plain ignorance. And to answer something else, BPL does not just affect Ham frequencies... it will basically overload any reciever tuning in a freq in the HF spectrum, from 1.5MHz allthe way to 30MHz and maybe beyond. and a LOT more people than just Hams use those frequencies.
Yooohoooo... look over here, not over there! Look here.. shiny SCO Stock certificates! yes, thats it... ignore all that silly IP stuff over there... come here and see my shiny new pet!
Remember Alan ?? Now if we can just get the home addresses of the responsible parties mentioned in this latest article, they too can learn the power of the Slashdot Effect.
Now thats how the/. effect REALLY works. Bankrupt SCO by using up so many lines for their conference call that they have to sell all their IP rights to the phone company to cover the bill.
Hrmmm even though he used fish instead of ants, its still a pretty neat idea. I would imagine tho, that with all the vibration (from fans, air flow, and even a fast CDROM or DVDRom spinning up and down) would cause the tunnels to collapse on the ants.
Throw in a flattened Godzilla sized insect and you have some great late night entertainment, much more fun than a bug zapper and a case of Pabst!
Given that apparently a LARGE number of companies (mostly smaller ones with little to no legal defense budget) are the ones being targeted by the BSA for these letters, and that there seem to be a lot of these letters going out, I am left wondering how well the BSA researches the companies before they send the letters out.
In other words, does the BSA actually know whats going on in these companies, or do they just mail out letters at random, like junk mail?
Have any of you heard of any fully OSS companies getting these letters from the BSA? And if so, what was the response?
>Any news about Microsoft is mangled into >something bad about the company, regardless >whether this really is the case or not.
Actually, M$ does a good enough job of this on their own... i.e. press releases.
>It's a perfect example of double standards: when >Windows crashes this is always the fault of >Microsoft, not of bad drivers or programs which >access Windows internals, while in fact they
Problem is, when a driver goes bad, or when a program goes bad in Windows... you lost (most of the time) the core OS, and are left with no recourse but to reboot. (read number of BSODs that regularly show up) And that doesnt even always fix the issue.
At least with Linux and things like that, you can just kill the problem program and go happily on your merry way. Kill, killall and rmmod are your friends.
I know you were trolling... but I couldnt help it.
Hmmm so. I fear for them. Does this now mean that Turbo Linux will be slashdotted into becoming another Microsoft Analogy? Heaven forbid they should show some sort fo success.
COBOL's right... in a manner of speaking. Why... Just the other day weren't you all jumping on the Red Hat Sucks bandwagon because Taco came out screaming about Red Hat 7 having "2500 bugs"? Almost immediately there were what, 100 + posts to the contrary saying that thre were only about 100 or so REAL bugs?
and here, CNET truncates a quote, and what do you do? You buy it for fact, and once again take up your witch hunt. Come on people. Why dont you use a little common sense. You dont believe that Windows is better than Linux, even though so many "experts" may say so. You research it, and you prove that Linux is a better OS with FACTS. So why is it that every time something like THIS happens, you just take whatever is said at face value.
If you did a little research, and maybe looked into things, and waited a little, you wouldn't all look like the stupid villagers shouting "WITCH!", but would instead look like a million INTELLIGENT FREE THINKING Open Source Advocates Shouting "POOR JOURNALISM!" at CNet for taking a quote like that so very far out of context.
And you wonder why so many people still think that Open Source is a joke?
and to beat that... the story itself was inflammatory, and blatently inacurate...
grounds for a libel suit...
anyway... who cares about the whiny masses... the beauty of open source is that Red Hat has to give you the code. If they dislike it that much, A: why did they bother downloading or buying it in the first place without bothering to wait on any reviews, bugreports, etc; B: if they think they can create adn release a distro this big, then why the fick dont they stop bitching and do it.
Nothing pisses me off more than a bunch of bitchy children who can do nothing more than fuss, instead of doing it themselves or trying to make it better.
Sammrobbs coments aside, I have no idea. Why dont you go buy Windows.
Now... flame-bait trolling being said, Simple. There were no 65000 supposed bugs... that was proven (not the exact number, but the fact that there were a Very Large Number [tm] of bugs that Win shipped with, most of which were never fixed, and if they were fixed, the only way you could get them was to fork out another 80 bucks or more for an updated OS release (98SE, 95OSR2, etc).
Now... again, where did the 2000 bugs reported come from? I checked Bugzilla at 10 am this morning, and Whoah, there wre only 293 bugs reported for 7.0.
and of that 293, over a hundered were duplicates or not really bugs, of the 193 left over, at least 80 of htem had been fixed with workarounds or errate within a day of being repoorted, and of the remaining 110 or so, a good deal of them were in someone elses code. NOT in Red Hats code.
And to add to Samrobb's reply, windows shipped roughly 65000 bugs for 30 million lines of code?
and RH shipped 300 bugs for 30 million lines of code, of which only about 8 million or so are actually RH code. the rest of the code shipped was created by someone else.
I am not saying that it isnt necessarily Red Hats fault, BUT, I am saying that before you or anyone else starts a flame war and starts bashing a distro for whatever reason, you need to do a littl research, and not just jump on the witchhunting bandwagon.
>girls aren't in more jobs cuz their dumb!
Let's see here... I would wager a guess that you havent met many real girls or women in you life have you?
But if you are going to make inflamatory remarks, at least use proper grammar and word choice. What you just said, is that Girls are not in more jobs cuz (sic) their dumb, which translates to:
girls are not emploued cuz (what the hell does cuz mean? I thought it was slang for cousin) of something to do with dumbs that they own.
Learn english before you bother trolling.
I dont mind trolls, I do mind unintelligent ones.
Is it? When is the last time you submitted a bug to M$ and saw that it was fixed within a week?
and when was the last time you got anything from M$ for less than 30 bucks with support, or for free without support?
and when was the last time that M$ gave you the source code and all the config files in plain text so that you could modify them to your hearts content?
When was the last time you were able to recompile Windows to add functionality or fix a bug or security issue?
Really... Linux is NOT windows. IT never will be. And comparing the two is like comparing an airplane to a car. The only thing those two have in common is the fact that they are transportation.
I just fininhed reading the ENTIRE depo of mr MPAA... and I am now enlightened. If many of the people in the MPAA and entertainment industry are as illiterate as Mr Valenti, I am not surprised at all by this attack on 2600.com. Makes me wonder if it was all just a dodge (his repeated "I don't know's" or if he really is that far out of the loop. and one real problem I have is the part where the counsel says that he doesn't have to answer questions about the MPAA's positions. He is the fucking head of the MPAA. He of all people is responsible for knowing and speaking on the positions of the MPAA in all matters. What a freakin ID10T.
Ummmm America is not a democracy? What is it then? Yes it is not a TRUE democracy, but then again, China nd the USSR werent true communisms neither. There can be no "true" or "pure" government, simply die to the size of populations, and human greed and corruption... BUT this is as close as it gets... if you dont like it... then get the hell out!
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give ya a real good example of this... this past winter most of North Carolina was covered in snow or several inches of hard packed ice. Millions of people were without power and heat for as much as 3 weeks or so (we had no power at my house for 17 days).
In fact, the problems with the ice were so bad that none of the localities around had comms either. All their fancy trunked systems failed because of towers coming down, repeaters losing power and running their backups down, etc etc.
The local ARES groups activated and provided what ended up being the ONLY form of communication for at least a few days until power was slowly restored. At one point in Chapel Hill, NC, ARES members were riding around in fire trucks and police vehicles because the Cops, firefighters and Paramedics couldnt use their own radios due to outages).
I realize that a lot of what is said here is due to trolling, but some of the comments I have read are of just plain ignorance. And to answer something else, BPL does not just affect Ham frequencies... it will basically overload any reciever tuning in a freq in the HF spectrum, from 1.5MHz allthe way to 30MHz and maybe beyond. and a LOT more people than just Hams use those frequencies.
I get on HF all the time and there is too much RF pollution there already (consumer electronics e.g. TVs, DSL modems, hubs,
;)
Hrmmm... I dont have that kind of problem... oddly enough, every time I key my HF rig, all my computers shut down.
Yooohoooo... look over here, not over there! Look here.. shiny SCO Stock certificates! yes, thats it... ignore all that silly IP stuff over there... come here and see my shiny new pet!
Remember Alan ?? Now if we can just get the home addresses of the responsible parties mentioned in this latest article, they too can learn the power of the Slashdot Effect.
Now thats how the /. effect REALLY works. Bankrupt SCO by using up so many lines for their conference call that they have to sell all their IP rights to the phone company to cover the bill.
Hrmmm even though he used fish instead of ants, its still a pretty neat idea. I would imagine tho, that with all the vibration (from fans, air flow, and even a fast CDROM or DVDRom spinning up and down) would cause the tunnels to collapse on the ants.
Throw in a flattened Godzilla sized insect and you have some great late night entertainment, much more fun than a bug zapper and a case of Pabst!
Damn... if only the Onion had patented their reported device, they could sue MS for millions.
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Given that apparently a LARGE number of companies (mostly smaller ones with little to no legal defense budget) are the ones being targeted by the BSA for these letters, and that there seem to be a lot of these letters going out, I am left wondering how well the BSA researches the companies before they send the letters out.
In other words, does the BSA actually know whats going on in these companies, or do they just mail out letters at random, like junk mail?
Have any of you heard of any fully OSS companies getting these letters from the BSA? And if so, what was the response?
>Any news about Microsoft is mangled into >something bad about the company, regardless >whether this really is the case or not. Actually, M$ does a good enough job of this on their own... i.e. press releases. >It's a perfect example of double standards: when >Windows crashes this is always the fault of >Microsoft, not of bad drivers or programs which >access Windows internals, while in fact they Problem is, when a driver goes bad, or when a program goes bad in Windows... you lost (most of the time) the core OS, and are left with no recourse but to reboot. (read number of BSODs that regularly show up) And that doesnt even always fix the issue. At least with Linux and things like that, you can just kill the problem program and go happily on your merry way. Kill, killall and rmmod are your friends. I know you were trolling... but I couldnt help it.
Hmmm so. I fear for them. Does this now mean that Turbo Linux will be slashdotted into becoming another Microsoft Analogy? Heaven forbid they should show some sort fo success.
COBOL's right... in a manner of speaking. Why... Just the other day weren't you all jumping on the Red Hat Sucks bandwagon because Taco came out screaming about Red Hat 7 having "2500 bugs"? Almost immediately there were what, 100 + posts to the contrary saying that thre were only about 100 or so REAL bugs? and here, CNET truncates a quote, and what do you do? You buy it for fact, and once again take up your witch hunt. Come on people. Why dont you use a little common sense. You dont believe that Windows is better than Linux, even though so many "experts" may say so. You research it, and you prove that Linux is a better OS with FACTS. So why is it that every time something like THIS happens, you just take whatever is said at face value. If you did a little research, and maybe looked into things, and waited a little, you wouldn't all look like the stupid villagers shouting "WITCH!", but would instead look like a million INTELLIGENT FREE THINKING Open Source Advocates Shouting "POOR JOURNALISM!" at CNet for taking a quote like that so very far out of context. And you wonder why so many people still think that Open Source is a joke?
and to beat that... the story itself was inflammatory, and blatently inacurate... grounds for a libel suit... anyway... who cares about the whiny masses... the beauty of open source is that Red Hat has to give you the code. If they dislike it that much, A: why did they bother downloading or buying it in the first place without bothering to wait on any reviews, bugreports, etc; B: if they think they can create adn release a distro this big, then why the fick dont they stop bitching and do it. Nothing pisses me off more than a bunch of bitchy children who can do nothing more than fuss, instead of doing it themselves or trying to make it better.
Sammrobbs coments aside, I have no idea. Why dont you go buy Windows. Now... flame-bait trolling being said, Simple. There were no 65000 supposed bugs... that was proven (not the exact number, but the fact that there were a Very Large Number [tm] of bugs that Win shipped with, most of which were never fixed, and if they were fixed, the only way you could get them was to fork out another 80 bucks or more for an updated OS release (98SE, 95OSR2, etc). Now... again, where did the 2000 bugs reported come from? I checked Bugzilla at 10 am this morning, and Whoah, there wre only 293 bugs reported for 7.0. and of that 293, over a hundered were duplicates or not really bugs, of the 193 left over, at least 80 of htem had been fixed with workarounds or errate within a day of being repoorted, and of the remaining 110 or so, a good deal of them were in someone elses code. NOT in Red Hats code. And to add to Samrobb's reply, windows shipped roughly 65000 bugs for 30 million lines of code? and RH shipped 300 bugs for 30 million lines of code, of which only about 8 million or so are actually RH code. the rest of the code shipped was created by someone else. I am not saying that it isnt necessarily Red Hats fault, BUT, I am saying that before you or anyone else starts a flame war and starts bashing a distro for whatever reason, you need to do a littl research, and not just jump on the witchhunting bandwagon.
>girls aren't in more jobs cuz their dumb! Let's see here... I would wager a guess that you havent met many real girls or women in you life have you? But if you are going to make inflamatory remarks, at least use proper grammar and word choice. What you just said, is that Girls are not in more jobs cuz (sic) their dumb, which translates to: girls are not emploued cuz (what the hell does cuz mean? I thought it was slang for cousin) of something to do with dumbs that they own. Learn english before you bother trolling. I dont mind trolls, I do mind unintelligent ones.
Is it? When is the last time you submitted a bug to M$ and saw that it was fixed within a week? and when was the last time you got anything from M$ for less than 30 bucks with support, or for free without support? and when was the last time that M$ gave you the source code and all the config files in plain text so that you could modify them to your hearts content? When was the last time you were able to recompile Windows to add functionality or fix a bug or security issue? Really... Linux is NOT windows. IT never will be. And comparing the two is like comparing an airplane to a car. The only thing those two have in common is the fact that they are transportation.
I just fininhed reading the ENTIRE depo of mr MPAA... and I am now enlightened. If many of the people in the MPAA and entertainment industry are as illiterate as Mr Valenti, I am not surprised at all by this attack on 2600.com. Makes me wonder if it was all just a dodge (his repeated "I don't know's" or if he really is that far out of the loop. and one real problem I have is the part where the counsel says that he doesn't have to answer questions about the MPAA's positions. He is the fucking head of the MPAA. He of all people is responsible for knowing and speaking on the positions of the MPAA in all matters. What a freakin ID10T.
Ummmm America is not a democracy? What is it then? Yes it is not a TRUE democracy, but then again, China nd the USSR werent true communisms neither. There can be no "true" or "pure" government, simply die to the size of populations, and human greed and corruption... BUT this is as close as it gets... if you dont like it... then get the hell out!