I remember when I had that and an Apple IIe... The poor fruit didn't get any attention...
Also, I build my own computers for the convinience... It's sad, but I find it easier to deal with the merchants and manufacturers of components when something goes wrong, than to deal with the tech support of most pre-builts. I get faster results too.
Altering sudo to use the root password is also possible. Since I'm the only person on my machine using it, that's what I do for a bit more security.
And as someone else said, it helps keep you from having your ass hanging out, so that someone malicious cant come along and shove something up it.
And then you can turn off normal root login for a bit more security if you like. Want to not have to sudo all the time even with that? Allow 'sudo bash'? Think that's too big of a hole? disallow 'sudo bash'.
I don't know how the documentation is in Linux, but it wasn't too hard to figure that stuff out in BSD.
IP over Laser, using a mirror as a hub? Interesting concept...
Messages from each processor, or any combination of them, are simultaneously sent to all the other microprocessors. Each receiver only picks out the messages intended for it, because of special addressing information sent with the light beams.
Yes, I know, it's not actually IP, but that's what it makes me think of.
They also have UnixWare, though I'm not sure if that's UNIX or an application suite for UNIX, or something that is "kinda like but not really" UNIX.
VMS is not UNIX, so I won't count that.
Given that these are "for sale", I don't think "dead" is quite the appropriate term. You can drop out Linux since it's not a IBM creation, reducing their number of Unix OSes by 1, but that's still a positive number.
We use all of the above (except UnixWare) and many more where I work, in various places (LARGE organization).
"yep, the OS installs" "yep, it sees the drives" "yep, the monitor displays dem purdy pictures" "yep, the spears are plain' that purdy music" etc. etc. etc.
It involves stress testing and the testing of many situations in a corporate environment such as Dell (and most OEM distributors), to make sure that it not only (a) works initially, but (b) can actually handle a wide variety of situations.
They can't just trust your word that "Yeah, Linux rocks", they have to make sure that it's actually going to work reliably and stably on their systems to meet a minimum set of requirements.
THere must have been another one, because there was one that said what I posted above, and was also removed.
So, no I'm not full of shit. I hope that clears things up for you, now try to be civil, or at least grow half a spine and stop hiding behind anonymous coward.
Note: I don't agree with the censorship at all, but I do think that particular post was unreasonable. Given the low voting rate, I suspect a lot of others positive to the idea of Linux on Dells felt this way to some extent also.
Synopsis: Dell would make some buisiness models "Linux Ready", and look into other models. They would pick SUSE as their distro of choice.
Roughly the idea storm post I read (not the article, but it linked to it), someone decided to complain that. 1) Dell wasn't providing Linux support for all models NOW 2) Dell wasn't given a guranteed time frame or even a gurantee on making all models "Linux ready" or "Linux preinstalled" 3) Dell picked SUSE, the Linux that pays MS.
The persond didn't use profanity and wasnt exceptionally inflamatory given how ticked off he seemded, but at the same time, he was complaining that he wasn't handed the sun and moon on a silver platter right now.
I know some people who got Aero running on a Mac Mini, those don't have great GFX cards in them. Apparantly, the i945/i950 and better intel graphics can handle Aero pretty well, as well as most Radeon 9xxx+ and most/all GeForce 6xxx+ series cards (maybe even the 5xxx cards, but I'm not sure)
At least they have the capacity, depending on manufacturer screwups and driver mishaps, YMMV.
So, just about anything bought now sould work.
That being said, the machine probably has an integrated i945/i950/3000/x3000 intel graphics chip - There is a PCI-E shunt type card that will provide a DVI port using onboard graphics. Newegg used to have them, but I don't see them anymore. They are usually around $19 new/unopened, I'd go for that.
it's not perma-frozen, and the actual projects aren't stopped.
It's the version of the code that is in the repository specifically for ubuntu that is frozen. This is a common release process to make sure everything is relatively solid and stable. It happens on most OSS OSes as they go through the final stages of testing and planning.
There are two things in the comment - the method of the analogy (cars), and the implications of the analogy (Windows is a junk heap, Mac OS is flashy and bright).
I disagreed with the implication, but figured it'd be easier to work with the method, rather than come up with something new, as it could work well enough.
Well, I couldn't be sure. That's part of the reason I had the opening line.
Unfortunately sarcasm/inflection doesn't transfer well over plain text, and since he didn't bother with any formatting, I had to consider both possibilities.
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I stand corrected.
No, wait...
I sit corrected.
given the low rate of comments on this article so far, I'm not sure anyone else was either.
another 25er with fond C64 memories...
I remember when I had that and an Apple IIe... The poor fruit didn't get any attention...
Also, I build my own computers for the convinience... It's sad, but I find it easier to deal with the merchants and manufacturers of components when something goes wrong, than to deal with the tech support of most pre-builts. I get faster results too.
Dangit! I was gonna make that comment...
I would love to get my new new Core2 Duo Extreme Commadore 64!
Altering sudo to use the root password is also possible. Since I'm the only person on my machine using it, that's what I do for a bit more security.
And as someone else said, it helps keep you from having your ass hanging out, so that someone malicious cant come along and shove something up it.
And then you can turn off normal root login for a bit more security if you like. Want to not have to sudo all the time even with that? Allow 'sudo bash'? Think that's too big of a hole? disallow 'sudo bash'.
I don't know how the documentation is in Linux, but it wasn't too hard to figure that stuff out in BSD.
They need to get people there first.
Personally, looking at the maps here, I know wher I'd put the colony.
I was going off of the previous posters comment and not the actual patent.
Maybe you should be rude to him instead? Or maybe yourself?
Yes, I know, it's not actually IP, but that's what it makes me think of.
or certain recreational devices...
Wait, how long have those been around with that feature? Longer than patents for such things? Prior art maybe?
So, is this just a hallucination?
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HP has 3 (4?) flavors of UNIX:
http://welcome.hp.com/country/us/en/prodserv/serv
HP-UX, Linux, Tru64
They also have UnixWare, though I'm not sure if that's UNIX or an application suite for UNIX, or something that is "kinda like but not really" UNIX.
VMS is not UNIX, so I won't count that.
Given that these are "for sale", I don't think "dead" is quite the appropriate term.
You can drop out Linux since it's not a IBM creation, reducing their number of Unix OSes by 1, but that's still a positive number.
We use all of the above (except UnixWare) and many more where I work, in various places (LARGE organization).
As for IBM, AIX and Linux. I5 might be a Unix OS also, but I'm not familiar with it.
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/i/os/
Also for sale. And AIX is also still used (they have AIX server in various places in the organization where I work also)
worst typo...
speakers, not spears...
I deserve death now. Maybe even that is too good for me.
I guess it depends on the city.
There are some cities that hire people to sift through the trash and separate out recyclables.
Personally, the idea of doing that job seems rubbish to me.
testing to see if it works is more than just a
"yep, the OS installs"
"yep, it sees the drives"
"yep, the monitor displays dem purdy pictures"
"yep, the spears are plain' that purdy music"
etc.
etc.
etc.
It involves stress testing and the testing of many situations in a corporate environment such as Dell (and most OEM distributors), to make sure that it not only (a) works initially, but (b) can actually handle a wide variety of situations.
They can't just trust your word that "Yeah, Linux rocks", they have to make sure that it's actually going to work reliably and stably on their systems to meet a minimum set of requirements.
This is not so simple as you might percieve.
THere must have been another one, because there was one that said what I posted above, and was also removed.
So, no I'm not full of shit. I hope that clears things up for you, now try to be civil, or at least grow half a spine and stop hiding behind anonymous coward.
Note: I don't agree with the censorship at all, but I do think that particular post was unreasonable. Given the low voting rate, I suspect a lot of others positive to the idea of Linux on Dells felt this way to some extent also.
Synopsis: Dell would make some buisiness models "Linux Ready", and look into other models. They would pick SUSE as their distro of choice.
Roughly the idea storm post I read (not the article, but it linked to it), someone decided to complain that.
1) Dell wasn't providing Linux support for all models NOW
2) Dell wasn't given a guranteed time frame or even a gurantee on making all models "Linux ready" or "Linux preinstalled"
3) Dell picked SUSE, the Linux that pays MS.
The persond didn't use profanity and wasnt exceptionally inflamatory given how ticked off he seemded, but at the same time, he was complaining that he wasn't handed the sun and moon on a silver platter right now.
To be honest, I'd rather gauge out my eardrums with a rusty spoon than hear that...
Yes, but will it run Lin...
Screw it, I prefer BSD anyway.
It shouldn't be a TERAble FLOP at the stores anyway. Nice performance...
OK, yes, bad pun, bad spelling, you can "-1 get a real sense of humor" me now.
*scratches head*
That got a chuckle out of me, though I'll be darned if I know why.
only DX9 is really needed
I know some people who got Aero running on a Mac Mini, those don't have great GFX cards in them. Apparantly, the i945/i950 and better intel graphics can handle Aero pretty well, as well as most Radeon 9xxx+ and most/all GeForce 6xxx+ series cards (maybe even the 5xxx cards, but I'm not sure)
At least they have the capacity, depending on manufacturer screwups and driver mishaps, YMMV.
So, just about anything bought now sould work.
That being said, the machine probably has an integrated i945/i950/3000/x3000 intel graphics chip - There is a PCI-E shunt type card that will provide a DVI port using onboard graphics. Newegg used to have them, but I don't see them anymore. They are usually around $19 new/unopened, I'd go for that.
that's 4^3000000000 potential values in terms of data.
(compared to a gigabyte hard drive which is 2^8000000000 potential values)
Not much storage capacity.
it's not perma-frozen, and the actual projects aren't stopped.
It's the version of the code that is in the repository specifically for ubuntu that is frozen. This is a common release process to make sure everything is relatively solid and stable. It happens on most OSS OSes as they go through the final stages of testing and planning.
Are you intentionally misreading what I said?
There are two things in the comment - the method of the analogy (cars), and the implications of the analogy (Windows is a junk heap, Mac OS is flashy and bright).
I disagreed with the implication, but figured it'd be easier to work with the method, rather than come up with something new, as it could work well enough.
Well, I couldn't be sure. That's part of the reason I had the opening line.
Unfortunately sarcasm/inflection doesn't transfer well over plain text, and since he didn't bother with any formatting, I had to consider both possibilities.