Here are a few things that will make you seem like a sane human being instead of a loud-mouth idiot. First, TYPING IN CAPS IS OFTEN CONSIDERED YELLING, and when you type IN CAPS something as inconsistent as what you typed, then you seem, well, idiotic. If they were granted an exemption by the FCC (or a conditional waiver, whatever the case may be), then they're not in violation of current FCC rules. They can't be both at once, and the FCC granted their conditional waiver in January. They would be in violation of Section 25.149(b)(4) were they not granted the waiver.
Second, hyperbole like "GPS [will be removed] as a useful technology in North America" or "It will put North American users in the dark ages" often works well on political forums, but Slashdot is a technical forum, and this kind of thing should be left to the politicians. The truth appears to be that the tests requested by the FCC indicate that 99.5% of the GPS devices on the market are compatible with the technology and will be unaffected, and the remaining.5% of the potential interference issues have been mitigated by the GPS manufacturers**. LightSquared intends to use a frequency that is 23MHz lower than the GPS frequencies for their initial roll-out, in response to the GPS interference concerns. It would appear the LightSquared is doing their best to avoid any interference with GPS. (**Note that there is good reason to doubt these numbers, since they come from LightSquared themselves, but your hyperbole is still bizarre and unwarranted.)
Third, your request to "blow them the hell up" could be considered a violent threat, which I would advise against doing on a public forum. People may get the wrong impression, and think that you are a violent psychopath, instead of just a bumbling idiot.
Finally, the "powerful backers" you mentioned probably refer to someone named Phil Falcone from Harbinger Capital. The narrative that is being pushed by some congressional republicans is that Phil Falcone gave money to the Obama campaign, so there is a possible impropriety. Again, the truth appears to be that "Falcone has contributed $50,500 to Democrats since 2007. He’s also contributed $85,500 to Republicans since 2007." (that's from the Washington Post, which don't recommend believing, but those are the numbers being touted.) Also, Falcone is alleged to be a registered republican, and he has never donated to the Obama campaign, according to the Federal Election Commission.
So, personally, I think there is good cause to investigate the technical issues being brought forth by LightSquared , but this push for investigation appears to a politically motivated. IMO, you appear to be a shill, and not a human being after all.
As an aside, Phil Falcone sounds like a character from Harvey Birdman. Just say'in.
Should I have modded you as funny? X.509 certificates don't contain copyright notices anywhere within them. I believe they would be treated as non-copyrightable, since they are statements of fact, and not creative works.
So, no it's not theft, and it's not copyright infringement. It's merely "copied"..
malware spreading via malicious PDF files is signed with a valid certificate which was copied from the Government of Malaysia...
Do you have any first-hand experience with this?
I do, and you're wrong. As a contractor for a gov't office (previously), I wouldn't get paid if I wasn't in the office, with time accounted for by a manager who worked for the office that I worked at. If you're allowing contractors to become "pampered telecommuters", you're doing it wrong. If you or your office are managing these contractors wrong, it's not the contractors fault, it's the fault of the manager. You're assigning blame incorrectly.
Can someone knowledgeable answer this AC's question in the preceding post? If this is the case, I'm having my niece and nephew by everything for me from now on.
If this is true, then he hurt his own cause by doing this. The self-inflicted damage to his reputation is severe, and noone can trust him now. This is how he will be held accountable: by the lack of faith in him and his organization. Sad, really. Entirely preventable, had he taken 2 minutes or less to think about it.
It is good that this information is being presented to the public, as this gives a chance for the original leakers to re-present the material to Wikileaks, if it is still available to them.
shudder, shudder, 20 minute build cycles, shudder)
Complete OS build in Platform Builder for WinMo takes about 2 hours. I try and avoid it.
I feel like that Monty Python sketch, "I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before I went to bed, eat a lump of cold poison, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay the mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad would kill us, and dance about on our graves singing "Hallelujah."
A bicycle unattended in my front yard is not express permission for you to take it.
I'm not in your yard, I'm in my house. You've got it the wrong way around -- YOUR wifi signals are invading MY space.
If you want to keep your bicycle away from my house, then sure, I have no right to take your bicycle; but if you transmit your bicycle into my home, then yes, I might ride it.
You don't like that? Keep your fucking electromagnetic bicycles out of my goddamned living room.
As someone whose been on both sides, I can tell you: being an engineer is much more difficult/stressful/ambiguous/stressful, than being the laborer.
Wow. You're a liar. As someone who has also been on both sides, I can tell you that working on your hands and knees hammering, lifting and banging large pieces of wood, stone and metal into place so that they form something useful is a hell of a lot harder work than sitting in an office in front of a computer typing.
If it wasn't for the fact that I hate the word "obvious" I'd have used it here. Look at it this way, and maybe you'll understand why you look so stupid:
How many joules of energy (guesstimate, call it "lots" or "little") are required to perform the following tasks?
1. Build a wall? Lots of joules! 2. Type a document about building a wall? Little joules!
So, yeah, anyone with an ounce of common sense can tell you that building a wall is more work than sitting around a computer. Please try not to stretch the truth anymore by claiming the opposite.
think back to frosh economics, and try to explain why the supposedly "easier" job makes more money.
Jesus Christ, folks, maybe YOU should perform that same task. Engineering is a discipline which requires years or training BEFORE any real work starts. Engineers don't want to do manual labor, (msotly) because they're lazy bastards and manual labor is hard. Manual labor does not take an advanced degree or a specific talent. There are more people who are willing to perform manual labor than there are engineers (who are lazy bastards), so any project that needs to pay for an engineer will pay considerably more than they would pay for a manual laborer.
Fucking duh. Why didn't YOU understand this?
As someone whose been on both sides, I can tell you: being a CEO is much more difficult/stressful/ambiguous/stressful.
I ran my company for a few years; I had a couple of employees. I can't tell you how many nights I'd come home drenched with sweat, beaten down from heat exhaustion, my lungs filled with cancerous asbestos. I can't tell you how many nights I would vomit myself to sleep, depressed and pained, dying, and wondering how the hell I could ever go back to that interminable hell-hole I called my Aeron chair.
I can't tell you any of those things, because it's a total crock that I just made up (not the company part, the "hell-hole" part). Honestly, your "poor little CEO" apologia is a big load of crap.
Should I ever be confronted with a day laborer who builds shit all I day, I would hope that I'm not a pretentious cock-smoker who says "... but... but my job is hard work, too!" My job isn't hard work. I don't like hard work. That's why I went to school for those extra 6 years. Having a degree means I can take it a little easier than alot of other people.
In summary, the laborer who knocks the engineer doesn't know shit, which is why: a)he makes less than the engineer. & b)he knocks the engineer.
Wow. I stand corrected. Your grasp of economics is... well, it's beyond me. This argument that you've given here, this "the engineer works harder than the day laborer because the laborer doesn't know shit" argument, well, it appears iron-clad. There is simply no way to attack such an irrelevant ad-hominem.
And the engineer that knocks the ceo, doesn't know shit, which is why: a) he makes less than the ceo. & b)he knocks the ceo
Did you just say that the engineer doesn't know shit?... and you implied that the CEO does? You were not a good CEO at whatever company you worked for. It's not the WHAT-you-know that the CEO gets paid for; it's the WHO-you-know. If you really WERE a CEO (which is a claim that I now doubt) then you would have realized the social skills are BY FAR and I mean HUGELY FAR more important than any technical bullshit knowledge you might have had during your engineering days.
XM logically figured that an impromptu bit of business in which the US Secretery of State is raped crossed those limitations
Yeah. I'm sure logic was in force completely, and they weren't REACTING OUT OF FEAR at all. They're not pussies; they're "patriots". Sure. Fuck you.
It fascinates me that this is framed as a "Free Speech" issue. The airwaves that XM uses aren't of the public variety, it has nothing to do with constitutional amendments.
Fuck, you're stupid. It is not a requirement that a "free speech" (oops, sorry "Free Speech") issue has ANYTHING AT ALL to do with "constitutional amendments". Never has been, never will be. You seem to think that they are the same things, and that makes you look like a fucking moron asshole cock-sucking piece of shit. So fuck you.
You know, for a generation raised on digital music, you sure all get caught in the same groove, sounding like broken records, a lot.
This is SOOO funny. First, you repeat the same horseshit that the subby did about "it's not a Free Speech (tm) issue because of some stupid reason.." and THEN you say "you sound like a broken record."
Hang on a sec, let me repeat that. FIRST, you repeated a claim made by the ORIGINAL FUCKING POSTER. and THEN, you claim other people are repeating their claims too much. Wow. You, you fucking piece of shit, are a shithole _hypocrite_.
They are a lot more aware than most folks realize... and a lot smarter than most anti-games crusaders!
At least he's smarter than all those retards with the Bobo Doll. Yeah, those kids, you know the ones -- the ones that watched the video of a doll being beaten up and then imitated that behavior. Those kids, or about 88% or them, anyway. Hey, did you know that after 8 months during followup studies 40% of those kids beat the shit out of the Bobo doll again? 8 MONTHS later 40% of these children who saw that video for only TEN MINUTES still repeated the aggressive behavior.
Thank Our Heavenly Load and Father Jesus Christ, who is Lord, Our God, that you kid is alot "smarter" than those evil crusaders. That, and go fuck your mother.
As an athiest, I too don't comprehend how this notion would be offensive.
Do I have to spell it out for you?
Posit, Given that: All humans are hardwired to believe in God. and: You do not believe in God; therefore: you are sub-human. Certainly, you are beneath ME, because you don't believe in God. Since I do (allegedly), then I must be MUCH better of a person than you are, you subhuman scumsucking pieceofshit. I hope you choke and die, you inhuman monster. Why do you hate humanity so much?
For Christ's sake, some of you Atheists are thick.
re: anti-theft system I think it's a terrible idea that will kill a lot of the potential of this wonderful project.
The spec says this: 971 The OLPC project has received very strong requests from certain countries 972 considering joining the program to provide a powerful anti-theft service that 973 would act as a theft deterrent against most thieves. 974 975 We provide such a service for interested countries to enable on the laptops.
So it looks like the decision is a political one. It suggests to me, though, that it would be possible to get or purchase (or steal) one from a country that isn't as paranoid.
"You cannot request a set of permissions that let you do bad things," Krstic said. So much for a computer that students will have complete control over.
I think that's incorrect, and I think the article might have gotten it wrong. The spec mentions that there are sets of permissions that will be denied at install time; however, it also claims that one of it's design goals is "no lockdown" and that "there must exist a way for these 211 security systems to be disabled." That's pretty clear to me. If program X asks to install itself with P_KILL_BOB AND P_KILL_ME, then it will be rejected from the installation. It needs to install itself with either P_KILL_BOB OR P_KILL_ME, but not both, because only one of us needs to die.
I think the article may have taken Krstic's comment out of context.
Ya know, maybe they could add "No Bricks" to their design goals... Just a thought.
As I understand it, as long as you happen to be in possession of a "trusted" key to the machine (which will certainly be OLPC and the government of the child in posession of the XO) you may eavesdrop on any resource of the X window system as you see fit? Correct me if I am wrong
This crypto key doesn't refer to anything directly related to X, it has to do with the installer. The spec says: 450 As a final note, programs cryptographically signed by OLPC or the 451 individual countries may bypass the permission request limits, and request 452 any permissions they wish at installation time.
So it's actually a bit worse than your scenario. Any program with the correct crypto key 0wnz0rz the b0x0rz, including X, the network, the audio/video, the file store, etc.
2. This creator has endowed people with "certain unalienable Rights"
*This* creator? You mean "those Creators", don't you? The phrase is endowed by their Creator, and my Creator was mostly my mom and a little bit of my dad, as far as I can tell. My "Creator" is different than your "Creator".
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Here are a few things that will make you seem like a sane human being instead of a loud-mouth idiot. First, TYPING IN CAPS IS OFTEN CONSIDERED YELLING, and when you type IN CAPS something as inconsistent as what you typed, then you seem, well, idiotic. If they were granted an exemption by the FCC (or a conditional waiver, whatever the case may be), then they're not in violation of current FCC rules. They can't be both at once, and the FCC granted their conditional waiver in January. They would be in violation of Section 25.149(b)(4) were they not granted the waiver.
Second, hyperbole like "GPS [will be removed] as a useful technology in North America" or "It will put North American users in the dark ages" often works well on political forums, but Slashdot is a technical forum, and this kind of thing should be left to the politicians. The truth appears to be that the tests requested by the FCC indicate that 99.5% of the GPS devices on the market are compatible with the technology and will be unaffected, and the remaining .5% of the potential interference issues have been mitigated by the GPS manufacturers**. LightSquared intends to use a frequency that is 23MHz lower than the GPS frequencies for their initial roll-out, in response to the GPS interference concerns. It would appear the LightSquared is doing their best to avoid any interference with GPS. (**Note that there is good reason to doubt these numbers, since they come from LightSquared themselves, but your hyperbole is still bizarre and unwarranted.)
Third, your request to "blow them the hell up" could be considered a violent threat, which I would advise against doing on a public forum. People may get the wrong impression, and think that you are a violent psychopath, instead of just a bumbling idiot.
Finally, the "powerful backers" you mentioned probably refer to someone named Phil Falcone from Harbinger Capital. The narrative that is being pushed by some congressional republicans is that Phil Falcone gave money to the Obama campaign, so there is a possible impropriety. Again, the truth appears to be that "Falcone has contributed $50,500 to Democrats since 2007. He’s also contributed $85,500 to Republicans since 2007." (that's from the Washington Post, which don't recommend believing, but those are the numbers being touted.) Also, Falcone is alleged to be a registered republican, and he has never donated to the Obama campaign, according to the Federal Election Commission.
So, personally, I think there is good cause to investigate the technical issues being brought forth by LightSquared , but this push for investigation appears to a politically motivated. IMO, you appear to be a shill, and not a human being after all.
As an aside, Phil Falcone sounds like a character from Harvey Birdman. Just say'in.
What did he say about unattributed quotes and unreferenced personal pronouns?
now I have a coding style that the simplest fool can understand.
As I am one of the simplest fools that I know, I just want to say -- Thanks for this. It is appreciated.
Should I have modded you as funny? X.509 certificates don't contain copyright notices anywhere within them. I believe they would be treated as non-copyrightable, since they are statements of fact, and not creative works. So, no it's not theft, and it's not copyright infringement. It's merely "copied"..
malware spreading via malicious PDF files is signed with a valid certificate which was copied from the Government of Malaysia...
Fuck you.
... what, do they arrest themselves?
Do you have any first-hand experience with this? I do, and you're wrong. As a contractor for a gov't office (previously), I wouldn't get paid if I wasn't in the office, with time accounted for by a manager who worked for the office that I worked at. If you're allowing contractors to become "pampered telecommuters", you're doing it wrong. If you or your office are managing these contractors wrong, it's not the contractors fault, it's the fault of the manager. You're assigning blame incorrectly.
Can someone knowledgeable answer this AC's question in the preceding post? If this is the case, I'm having my niece and nephew by everything for me from now on.
If this is true, then he hurt his own cause by doing this. The self-inflicted damage to his reputation is severe, and noone can trust him now. This is how he will be held accountable: by the lack of faith in him and his organization. Sad, really. Entirely preventable, had he taken 2 minutes or less to think about it. It is good that this information is being presented to the public, as this gives a chance for the original leakers to re-present the material to Wikileaks, if it is still available to them.
So you're saying that David Lynch directed the Star Wars Christmas Special, then? You present a good case, and your evidence is overwhelming.
This -- "efforts in trying to regain control over the FiberWAN network and later test it" -- does not cost $1.5 million dollars.
shudder, shudder, 20 minute build cycles, shudder) Complete OS build in Platform Builder for WinMo takes about 2 hours. I try and avoid it. I feel like that Monty Python sketch, "I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before I went to bed, eat a lump of cold poison, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay the mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad would kill us, and dance about on our graves singing "Hallelujah."
By the same definition, it is also illegal for the wireless router to attempt to connect to your computer.
on the "obvious" disambiguation page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obvious
A bicycle unattended in my front yard is not express permission for you to take it.
I'm not in your yard, I'm in my house. You've got it the wrong way around -- YOUR wifi signals are invading MY space.
If you want to keep your bicycle away from my house, then sure, I have no right to take your bicycle; but if you transmit your bicycle into my home, then yes, I might ride it.
You don't like that? Keep your fucking electromagnetic bicycles out of my goddamned living room.
A sign that says "Free bike" is.
and stay off my lawn, too.
Everyone's got it upside down.
The root password is au!dle
The mobile password is a!++op
As someone whose been on both sides, I can tell you: being an engineer is much more difficult/stressful/ambiguous/stressful, than being the laborer.
... but my job is hard work, too!" My job isn't hard work. I don't like hard work. That's why I went to school for those extra 6 years. Having a degree means I can take it a little easier than alot of other people.
... well, it's beyond me. This argument that you've given here, this "the engineer works harder than the day laborer because the laborer doesn't know shit" argument, well, it appears iron-clad. There is simply no way to attack such an irrelevant ad-hominem.
... and you implied that the CEO does? You were not a good CEO at whatever company you worked for. It's not the WHAT-you-know that the CEO gets paid for; it's the WHO-you-know. If you really WERE a CEO (which is a claim that I now doubt) then you would have realized the social skills are BY FAR and I mean HUGELY FAR more important than any technical bullshit knowledge you might have had during your engineering days.
Wow. You're a liar. As someone who has also been on both sides, I can tell you that working on your hands and knees hammering, lifting and banging large pieces of wood, stone and metal into place so that they form something useful is a hell of a lot harder work than sitting in an office in front of a computer typing.
If it wasn't for the fact that I hate the word "obvious" I'd have used it here. Look at it this way, and maybe you'll understand why you look so stupid:
How many joules of energy (guesstimate, call it "lots" or "little") are required to perform the following tasks?
1. Build a wall? Lots of joules!
2. Type a document about building a wall? Little joules!
So, yeah, anyone with an ounce of common sense can tell you that building a wall is more work than sitting around a computer. Please try not to stretch the truth anymore by claiming the opposite.
think back to frosh economics, and try to explain why the supposedly "easier" job makes more money.
Jesus Christ, folks, maybe YOU should perform that same task. Engineering is a discipline which requires years or training BEFORE any real work starts. Engineers don't want to do manual labor, (msotly) because they're lazy bastards and manual labor is hard. Manual labor does not take an advanced degree or a specific talent. There are more people who are willing to perform manual labor than there are engineers (who are lazy bastards), so any project that needs to pay for an engineer will pay considerably more than they would pay for a manual laborer.
Fucking duh. Why didn't YOU understand this?
As someone whose been on both sides, I can tell you: being a CEO is much more difficult/stressful/ambiguous/stressful.
I ran my company for a few years; I had a couple of employees. I can't tell you how many nights I'd come home drenched with sweat, beaten down from heat exhaustion, my lungs filled with cancerous asbestos. I can't tell you how many nights I would vomit myself to sleep, depressed and pained, dying, and wondering how the hell I could ever go back to that interminable hell-hole I called my Aeron chair.
I can't tell you any of those things, because it's a total crock that I just made up (not the company part, the "hell-hole" part). Honestly, your "poor little CEO" apologia is a big load of crap.
Should I ever be confronted with a day laborer who builds shit all I day, I would hope that I'm not a pretentious cock-smoker who says "... but
In summary, the laborer who knocks the engineer doesn't know shit, which is why: a)he makes less than the engineer. & b)he knocks the engineer.
Wow. I stand corrected. Your grasp of economics is
And the engineer that knocks the ceo, doesn't know shit, which is why: a) he makes less than the ceo. & b)he knocks the ceo
Did you just say that the engineer doesn't know shit?
XM logically figured that an impromptu bit of business in which the US Secretery of State is raped crossed those limitations
Yeah. I'm sure logic was in force completely, and they weren't REACTING OUT OF FEAR at all. They're not pussies; they're "patriots". Sure. Fuck you.
It fascinates me that this is framed as a "Free Speech" issue. The airwaves that XM uses aren't of the public variety, it has nothing to do with constitutional amendments.
Fuck, you're stupid. It is not a requirement that a "free speech" (oops, sorry "Free Speech") issue has ANYTHING AT ALL to do with "constitutional amendments". Never has been, never will be. You seem to think that they are the same things, and that makes you look like a fucking moron asshole cock-sucking piece of shit. So fuck you.
You know, for a generation raised on digital music, you sure all get caught in the same groove, sounding like broken records, a lot.
This is SOOO funny. First, you repeat the same horseshit that the subby did about "it's not a Free Speech (tm) issue because of some stupid reason.." and THEN you say "you sound like a broken record."
Hang on a sec, let me repeat that.
FIRST, you repeated a claim made by the ORIGINAL FUCKING POSTER.
and THEN, you claim other people are repeating their claims too much.
Wow. You, you fucking piece of shit, are a shithole _hypocrite_.
They are a lot more aware than most folks realize... and a lot smarter than most anti-games crusaders!
At least he's smarter than all those retards with the Bobo Doll. Yeah, those kids, you know the ones -- the ones that watched the video of a doll being beaten up and then imitated that behavior. Those kids, or about 88% or them, anyway. Hey, did you know that after 8 months during followup studies 40% of those kids beat the shit out of the Bobo doll again? 8 MONTHS later 40% of these children who saw that video for only TEN MINUTES still repeated the aggressive behavior.
Thank Our Heavenly Load and Father Jesus Christ, who is Lord, Our God, that you kid is alot "smarter" than those evil crusaders. That, and go fuck your mother.
Get off my wireless connection! Whippersnapper.
As an athiest, I too don't comprehend how this notion would be offensive.
Do I have to spell it out for you?
Posit, Given that: All humans are hardwired to believe in God.
and: You do not believe in God;
therefore: you are sub-human. Certainly, you are beneath ME, because you don't believe in God. Since I do (allegedly), then I must be MUCH better of a person than you are, you subhuman scumsucking pieceofshit. I hope you choke and die, you inhuman monster. Why do you hate humanity so much?
For Christ's sake, some of you Atheists are thick.
re: anti-theft system
I think it's a terrible idea that will kill a lot of the potential of this wonderful project.
The spec says this:
971 The OLPC project has received very strong requests from certain countries
972 considering joining the program to provide a powerful anti-theft service that
973 would act as a theft deterrent against most thieves.
974
975 We provide such a service for interested countries to enable on the laptops.
So it looks like the decision is a political one. It suggests to me, though, that it would be possible to get or purchase (or steal) one from a country that isn't as paranoid.
"You cannot request a set of permissions that let you do bad things," Krstic said.
So much for a computer that students will have complete control over.
I think that's incorrect, and I think the article might have gotten it wrong. The spec mentions that there are sets of permissions that will be denied at install time; however, it also claims that one of it's design goals is "no lockdown" and that "there must exist a way for these
211 security systems to be disabled." That's pretty clear to me. If program X asks to install itself with P_KILL_BOB AND P_KILL_ME, then it will be rejected from the installation. It needs to install itself with either P_KILL_BOB OR P_KILL_ME, but not both, because only one of us needs to die.
I think the article may have taken Krstic's comment out of context.
Ya know, maybe they could add "No Bricks" to their design goals... Just a thought.
As I understand it, as long as you happen to be in possession of a "trusted" key to the machine (which will certainly be OLPC and the government of the child in posession of the XO) you may eavesdrop on any resource of the X window system as you see fit? Correct me if I am wrong
This crypto key doesn't refer to anything directly related to X, it has to do with the installer. The spec says:
450 As a final note, programs cryptographically signed by OLPC or the
451 individual countries may bypass the permission request limits, and request
452 any permissions they wish at installation time.
So it's actually a bit worse than your scenario. Any program with the correct crypto key 0wnz0rz the b0x0rz, including X, the network, the audio/video, the file store, etc.
2. This creator has endowed people with "certain unalienable Rights"
*This* creator? You mean "those Creators", don't you? The phrase is endowed by their Creator, and my Creator was mostly my mom and a little bit of my dad, as far as I can tell. My "Creator" is different than your "Creator".