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Ridley Scott To Direct New Blade Runner Movie
In his first accepted submission, fwarren writes "Alcon Entertainment, best known for the movie The Blind Side, purchased the rights to Blade Runner earlier this year. The next order of business? Hire Ridley Scott. Scott has signed on to make a new Blade Runner movie. At this point it is not known whether it will be a sequel or a prequel. With no script or writer at this point, I think it is safe to say it will be a roller coaster ride for the next few years."
I don't know, but Phillip K. Dick is probably rolling in his.
Um.
What grave?
(and more importantly,)
What are you smoking?
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I would advocate pummeling the director to within an inch of their life. For Ridley Scott I would ask politely to reconsider before pummeling.
Any insufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology.
man that was a good movie. with the little guy talking about 'meesa no jibber jabber', so great - a classic film. but think about how much they could improve it with modern special effects like computer graphics and realistic animation.
nearly sent me into screaming fits. You know, with Shea and Will Smith and other luminaries in staring roles.
Maybe Ridley Scott will cast Sandra Bullock in tight pants and a gun. If she's a replicant that would be icing on the cake...
That's It!!!
The new movie will feature a geriatric Deckard hunting down interstellar narcotic trafficking vampires, er, no wait - ZOMBIE DRUG LORDS!!!!!
yeah baby!!!!
It seems like Hollywood just can't be content to let a good work stand on its own. Sooner or later everything good has to get either a sequel, prequel, or remake. It's just disrespectful, in my opinion, to works that are actually good and stand the test of time on their own. Not everything has to be turned into a cash cow.
It was short lived, but Total Recall 2070 was set in a hybrid Phillip K Dick universe that combined Blade Runner and Total Recall. It took place 20 years after the events of Blade Runner, kept a fair chunk of the aesthetic, and was pretty damn cool. It was a shame it only survived one season.
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Total_Recall_2070
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I'd watch it if David Lynch remade Star Wars. It would just be a bunch of creepy synth music, incomprehensible dialog, and scenes with people and aliens standing around not saying anything.
There's no -1 for "I don't get it."
If he is getting older, it should be a sequel, if on the other hand he is getting younger, then it should be a prequel.
I suggest that Scott lay the groundwork for "VALIS: Electric Boogaloo."
Deep in the ocean are treasures beyond compare; but if you seek safety, it is on the shore.
Deckard shoots first in this one.
You're missing an 'a'.
And I won't be surprised if Warner distributes it and it does becomes some Six Flags ride.
Of the first one
Haha get it
I'd quite like to see a truer adaption of Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep. While it obviously shares much in common with Blade Runner its story and world have (to me at least) a very different, and just as appealing, flavour to Blade Runner.
That's it, I give up.
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is kinky.
edward james olmos, rutger hauer, crazy sean young, daryl hannah, joe turkel... heck get vangelis to write a new score
brion james died unfortunately (leon)
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
I would advocate pummeling the director to within an inch of their life. For Ridley Scott I would ask politely to reconsider before pummeling.
What if Ridley Scott hands it off to James Cameron? Sequels do not always go horribly wrong. :-)
Hint: imdb Alien and Aliens
People said that Lucas and Spielberg were the only ones who could do Indiana Jones right, and look at what happened:
They ended up ass-raping Indiana Jones.
I'm hoping Harrison Ford has enough sense to sit this one out. Except he can't sit because Spielberg and Lucas ass-raped him. Over and over. Used him like a woman.
You are welcome on my lawn.
Kind of ironic that they crack down on illegal copies then continue to copy themselves.
"Well, good luck finding a judge that doesn't run a bestiality site."
Following the various links I found:
"Over the course of one meeting, they hashed out how a new film would look, how it could avoid seeming too similar to the many movies that have since paid homage to the original, and how different the new film should be from the original itself. They eventually decided it should stand as separately as possible."
...would that mean they might have cell phones invented by then?
More like MacReady was a replicant and Deckard was the Thing.
man that was a good movie. with the little guy talking about 'meesa no jibber jabber', so great - a classic film
Has the day really arrived that when someone says "Star Wars" people think of episode 1 first?
Hey, maybe he's just a chickenhead, cut the guy some slack.
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why does everything sci-fi have to be a remake, re-imagining, sequel or prequel?
seriously, aren't there any writers in Hollywood with imaginations any more, or even the chops to do a decent book adaptation?
Lets hope it's a remake, and let's hope it's done properly this time.
How does that work? 2019 is only 8 years away at this point. I think it's pretty clear we're not going to have any flying cars by then.
It's too risky to make a film with a totally new story. Or at leas that's what the marketing thinks.
I can't wait for Blade Runner vs. Alien.
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As we all know, it's more "proper" to use a woman than it is to use a man.
Nope, there's nothing sexist about that. Not...at...all.
I remember after finishing on 5th element I interviewed with The Mill in london. They PROMISED me that if I would just sign up I'd be working on "Millennium" the working title for Blade Runner II. I thought that would be cool so I said sure, but when they offered me less then a living wage to live in London, I had to pass.
Nice to see that ploy still works.
...then later on they can make sequels.
Nothing more horrible about movies than 20-40 year old sequels, it simply won't match.
Max 5 years timespan between sequels!
What this world is coming to - is for you and me to decide.
fucker.
i agreed but Really, don’t mess with it. It was an excellent film and an equally excellent soundtrack by Vangelis. If you must do something with the genre, do something from Walter Jon Williams (Hardwired, Voice of the Whirlwind), or Count Zero, or other such Cyberpunk stories that later became the inspiration to Johnny Mnemonic and The Matrix. And get Vangelis to do the soundtrack.
Somehow JarJar has to make it into this movie... that would be awesome... I would watch it with my children I like to fuck most...
Now that would be a blast!
Ridley Scott directed Blade Runner ~30 years ago. Maybe he came up with a good idea for another movie in the Blade Runner Universe, and it will be a good movie. 30 years is plenty of time of come up with new ideas.
Seriously though, this is GOOD news.
Ridley Scott is a master. Alien, Blade Runner, Gladiator, Black Hawk Down, American Gangster, Matchstick Men...all come to mind as great films over his long career.
I recall Scott's comments on the Alien Quadrilogy DVD set, basically saying that there was no need for a "director's cut" of Alien because he was perfectly happy with the original.
So I really don't think he would screw up a new Blade Runner film.
It is impossible for a new film to compare to the first...Blade Runner was at least a decade ahead of its time...but it will still be GOOD.
On the film-noir-scifi front, I'm also interested to see when Richard Morgan's work (Altered Carbon) makes it to the screen.
On the broader scifi front, I'd love to see Iain M Banks' or Vernor Vinge's or Alastair Reynold's works translated to film. Tough job though.
The workprint one? The San Diego sneak preview? (Shown only once) Or the U.S. theatrical version? Perhaps "the international" uncut one? Maybe the U.S. broadcast version (no nipples!) How about the "Director's Cut"? I know, I know, Ridley Scott's Final Cut AKA the "25th Anniversary Edition" So many choices, so little time (Harrison ain't getting any younger)
I got it, but have no mod points. I wish I did.
"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I've watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate."
I want to see a movie that shows that.
If Dick didn't write it, it ain't Dick. This is a travesty. Although most of the adaptations smell of travesty (Hollyfuckingwood being what it is), this truly is.
Badges!?! We don't need no stinking badges!
Do you all really think that Mr. Scott is going to pre/se-quel Blade Runner for the sake of glory?
Mr. Scott knows that the new movie won't bring him any glory, just bad critics.
Whatever Mr. Scott will do, that won't even compare to Blade Runner.
No actor will sustain the comparison with Ford, Hauer, Young or Hannah and company.
Yes, (real) CGI and 3D will make it better looking, 16 channel extra-surround will make it sound better.
But will it be comparable to the real Blade Runner movie (whatever cut you choose)?
No way as far as the contents of the movie itself.
But you can bet it will be an economic success. And that's all matters nowadays.
Please, Mr. Scott, don't do it. Otherwise you'll be retired!
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Honestly, my initial reaction was, "Oooooooohhhhhhh nooooooooooo", followed by a sigh of general disbelief. :-/
Why do they have to always ruin everything? Just leave it alone - use that wonderful creativity to create something -new-. Stop turning anything that was remotely 'cool' into a franchise - it's lazy.
If you must do it, at least keep it 'real'. Gritty, authentic, profane, emotional, morally ambiguous and generally true to the setting (no Han shot first crap). Use lesser known actors (average looking, raw talent, sincere, human). Create a truly unique yet plausible environment. For the soundtrack, get or use equivalent of Vangelis - maybe Brian Eno - or the folks who did Mass Effect 2.) Yeah, I'm basically describing BR, but hey - that's what made it a good film to me.
In fact, thinking about it, Mass Effect 2 in general might be a good template for a new BR story.
Dunno, just my 2c.
Am I the only one who wouldn't mind another good looking and evenly paced cyberpunk/noir flick, regardless of its cast or connection to the first? Harrison Ford might not want to do another contrived sequel that involves stunt work and I'm not sure Deckard is quite as essential to this continuity than, say, Indy is to his.
Everything that's in theater this month is a sequel, prequel, remake, reload, adaptation from a foreign movie... Nobody has any idea in Hollywood ? I'm not even a cinema expert or enthusiast, but I can recognize all remakes from 20 miles away. These are not even from old movies from the 50's in b&w, these are remakes of last's year hit (Spiderman... again?... Srsly ?... ).
Tales from the Script The industry has a funny way of treating such critical talent.
Stay sentient. Don't drink bad milk.
I'm getting a sense that this is going to be a digital event. It will either be an extraordinary masterpiece of cinema, considering the power a great director has today to fulfill a vision, or it will be the worst mind-numbing, steaming heap of CGI dung to ever grace celluloid. The best or worst of this is that it will almost certainly glory or stench in 3D.
I have mod points but I wish I get the joke.
Film noire, please. No "international" version, just start with enough boobs and blood in the first place. No Harrison Ford, though? Really? Let's hope the story (if any) follows the idiotic Deckard-is-a-Skinjob like Rachel and Roy-Priss's boy comes down from Tannhauser Gate to discuss eugenics with Deckard-Rachel's twin girls. Rise of the planet of the grapes of wrath.
``Tension, apprehension & dissension have begun!'' - Duffy Wyg&, in Alfred Bester's _The Demolished Man_
[Day ext.]
Fog extends its arms over a vast tropical forest. Animated navigation graphics appear on the landscape. We are in a low flight. Slow traveling in long curves over the canopy.
successive inserts of a closing clearing, at shorter successive intervals.
reverse shot in the clearing, a giant, almost perfectly round rock stands in the mist.
camera closes on the rock while ascending.
On the top, in a meditating posture, stands Deckard. Eyes closed. Seemingly absent. A white dove sleeps on his thighs.
we hear machinery sounds around, then voices, people are giving orders in short bursts. A futuristic scale is put on the giant rock, army shoes climb.
Slow traveling on Deckard's back, a hand enters the frame and press an electronic device on nape of his neck.
Reverse shot. Close. Deckard's eyes slowly open. Awakening from a long stasis. While the camera slowly backs off with Deckard looking straight into it, the dove takes a slow motion flight on a majestic, misty forest background.
Top of the now empty rock. While in the back vessels launch in steam bursts and take a curve to a mysterious destination, the camera starts to climb down and pan on the right. We enter the misty forest. Out of nowhere, a unicorn run amongst the trees.
[Titles.]
The worst thing to happen to a fantasy work sequel : the godlike urge for the author to close all open lines, to answer all questions. Closure is antinomic to good fantasy.
Yet, an all too common sin. This was predicted for Star Wars, and it happened in all sort of ridiculous manners. Hollywood being more and more Hollywood, and Ridley himself gravitating to Tony's heaviness, I fully expect the worse.
Blasphemy is the first word that comes in to my mind.
Blade Runner was so unique at is time, among movies like Star Wars, Space Odyssey 2010 that it is hard to believe that it can be topped.
Maybe it will continue in a 2010 parallel universe?
Even thou it was right in many aspects, except from flying cars, man made climate
changes (that haven't happened yet). And got pretty close to the world that we live in today, regards to genetics use of handheld devices. It was too dark and mysterious to be real. But never the less awesome.
The story and the cast was absolutely perfect. Just can't be topped. But perhaps Mr. Harrison Ford could appear once
more, as the old Rick Decard. The only surving replicant. Please don't keep him alive as a cold stiff 3D character.
Hopefully the new movie won't be driven by the a desperate need of finances in the midst of our economical crisis.
Anyways this is one movie that I will be ready to wait for.
Please take your time to do it right.
Daniel Craig would make an outstanding Deckard.
Tom Hardy (Shinzon in "Star Trek Nemesis", The Forger in "Inception", Bane in "Dark Knight Rises") as Roy.
Maybe some /.ers could chip in here with casting choices that could render a remake palatable.
Now why the hell did this come out as AC? I'm logged on, damn you Slashdot!
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He ruined the first film, it would be awful if he had a chance to ruin it for the second time. The book was so good and the film was so slow and just tanked.
Honestly what the hell is with Hollyweird. The greed there is just amazing and they seem to have a difficult time accepting anything really original but they'll throw money at a garbage sequel like nobody's business!
Maybe Hollywood needs to go up in flames too...
"Bah!" - Dogbert
I am told there will also be a new Metropolis movie. Maybe the'd join their efforts.
Bet on a prequel. If the first try sucks Mr. Scott can roll the dice again with a sequel.
15TW = 15,000 Nuclear Reactors. (Approx. one accident a month.)
Blades? Really? Pah! Get with the times oldy, nobody uses swords anymore.
Bazooka Runner, now _that_ is a film I'd wanna see!
As long as Harrison Ford doesn't run around like he's 25 in the movie. In fact, he should step aside for some new young talented actor. Like.... Um.... Shia LaBeouf? Crap. Now I know why he was in crystal skull.
There are three books that have been published since:
Blade Runner 2- The Edge of Human
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runner_2:_The_Edge_of_Human
Blade Runner 3- Replicant Night
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runner_3:_Replicant_Night
Blade Runner 4- Eye and Talon ... the last of which I have not read.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runner_4:_Eye_and_Talon
thanks alot. i was eating.
and romeo and juliet... it had been done hundreds of times before!
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Script drafts on fire in Sunset Bouleverd production meetings. I watched C-movies glitter in the dark in a 3D multiplex. And all those remakes will be lost in time... like tears in rain... Time to die.
or Deckard vs. Indiana Jones
or all three together.
Life takes interesting turns, but the most interest is when you're off the beaten path.
I dunno - the original was set in 2019. A prequel would be set less than 8 years in our future. Are people really going to buy that premise, unless they laboriously explain this is an alternative universe? A sequel set another 30 years down the line would seem to work better. The worry then is that they'll definitely want old Harrison to play old Deckard, which will fly in the face of "replicants have a limited lifespan and Deckard is a replicant", unless they have a very good reason why he's an exception.
Nooo! That's the whole point of Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
Actually, unless we read different books, the point of Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? was "so what? are you sure there's a difference?"
The book is (mainly) about Deckard discovering that many things around him were fake. It is also glaringly obvious in the book that the VK test for replicants was actually a test of belief in the dominant (fake) religion (which was heavy on empathy and being kind to animals - c.f. the questions in the VK test). His wife wakes up in the morning and dials up her mood for the day - and if she doesn't feel like dialing, there;s an app for that! By the end of the book, Deckard has pretty much ceased to care what is what.
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I'd quite like to see a truer adaption of Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep. While it obviously shares much in common with Blade Runner its story and world have (to me at least) a very different, and just as appealing, flavour to Blade Runner.
No need - first watch the film, then read the book and let your brain insert the visuals. Perfection.
In a survey of 100 programmers, 111111 thought that duck-typing was a good idea.
Just another example of a complete lack of originality. We can't make something new lets repackage something with CG, that makes it better right?
If you paint a turd to look like a flower, it still smells like sh*t.
I cant see a credible prequel without Emmit Walsh. I would prefer a sequel with Gaffe as the new Captain of the Blade Runner unit, and somehow have the movie center around the replicant soldiers like Roy Batty, and Jason Scott Lee from Soldier. Maybe make it a meditation on their quest for rights beyond slave labor, and cannon fodder.
It is better to be the hammer than the anvil.
I have studied Blade Runner. You'd need a mighty fine, mind-blowing script to even come near to the original. Mind you, half of what Made Blade Runner so good was, what was NOT said, as what was implied. The dialog in the film is terse, tight, and very carefully worded. It's like a Phillip Glass composition, in that there's only in there what needs to be in there and nothing more. Seriously go back and look at it, and then think about what's the undertone behind each line in the film.
Like a film noir detective movie, everyone is a suspect, and everyone is hiding some secret. It's not cut and dry, but layered.
Hollywood doesn't know how to do a film like that anymore. Now it's cartoon characters and explosions, and everything is at face value, spoon-fed to the audience.
Then there's the look of the film. With the exception of Fritz Lang's Metropolis, *nothing* looked like Blade Runner. The film is so groundbreaking is this respect, I don't even know where to begin. Did you ever even hear the word "Dystopian" before Blade Runner? It literally *invented* cyberpunk -- there's no doubt that Gibson was influenced by the film when he wrote his novels in the way he describes BAMA or Chiba.
A new film would have to be above-board exceptional. Script, Characters, Cast, Visuals, Music, Director. When Blade Runner was made, everyone involved was at the top of their game. It's rare to get such a talented crew in one place at one time. Think about the names involved in that production, Scott, Mead, Ford, Hauer, Vangellis, Fancher -- I mean, this crew was kind of a magical occurrence of talent that doesn't happen often.
I have a friend who just doesn't "get" this film. He says it's about a guy who has to kill a bunch of replicants who are going to die anyhow. And yes, if you're watching the surface of the film, it's a pointless exercise, after all, if they are going to die soon, why bother shooting them?
But that's not what the film is *about*. Just ask Rob Zombie, who's most famous song is about Blade Runner. Blade Runner is a deep, deep film. It's an abyss in a Nietzsche-esque sense.
It's not likely to be "replicated" or topped, or sequel'ed. All another film based in that universe is going to do is remind us of how brilliant the original was.
If telephones are outlawed, then only outlaws will have telephones.
...Cowboys and Replicants myself.
I dunno - the original was set in 2019. A prequel would be set less than 8 years in our future. Are people really going to buy that premise, unless they laboriously explain this is an alternative universe?
In other shocking news, they made a film of 1984 in 1984! How was anyone going to swallow that?
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
is said to be: The Replicant Whisperer
Are people really going to buy that premise, unless they laboriously explain this is an alternative universe?
Protip: No one is going to care.
[Fade in on a roadhouse bar in a small Washington state logging town.
A singer on stage croons a haunting tune about falling. We pan over to Harrison Ford, Kyle Maclaughlin and Russell Mulcahy
sitting at a table. Harrison is eating sushi with a bottle of whiskey, Kyle is eating pie and Russell is on the phone
with Christopher Lambert.]
Singer: Falling . . . Falling . . .
[The bar goes dark. The band disappears from the stage. A bright white light appears on the trio at the table and
on stage. Russell stops his call and all three stand to look mesmerizingly at the stage. A very tall man in the likeness of Mr. Homn from ST.TNG
fades into view on stage.]
Tall Man: [Speaking to Russell] It is happening again. . .It is happening again.
[A small dwarf in a red suit dances up to Harrison. He hands him a cel phone.]
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[Harrison puts it on speaker.]
Ridley Scott: Hey there big guy! Me and the guys at Fox are lookin' to green light a sequel for Blade Runner! Starts a 1.5 Mil with 2.5% in points. Tell me you're in!
[Time slows downs. Russell reaches for the phone.]
Russell: Noooooooo!
[He throws the phone at the back bar wall and shatters the mirrored glass. The bright lights fade and everything returns to normal except the glass.]
Russell: I'm . . . I'm sorry Harrison. I don't know what came over me. I just can't let that happen again.
Kyle: It's OK, Russell, already been there. Done that.
[The trio leaves money on the table and get up to leave as everyone looks at them. Harrison tosses a coin on the bar.]
Harrison: Sorry about the mess.
You don't have to have a direct sequelâ" Ghost in the Shell and Innocence. I'd hope Scott could use familiar entities, 'Runners, Tyrell Corp, foo, to tell a new story but we'll see. If it gets out of development hell, I'll be amazed.
--- Do you believe in the day?
Maybe they will do some retcon, and use a marker to edit the original so that it takes place in 2109. Then they'll have plenty of time for a prequel, and more importantly an entirely new version of the original movie that you will have to buy to go with the new one, and buy again in the boxed set, and again in blue-ray, blue-ray boxed set, director's cuts, extended versions, scenes they decided weren't good enough to actually put in to the movie, etc.
Also, the new version will have dozens more characters introduced, for the sole purpose of selling action figures and merchandise related to each one.
I wish I could say, "I understand why Hollywhore is doing this," but I just can't fathom the lack of depth the are bringing to the 21st century. This will not end well.
Ridley Scott pays precious little attention to history in any of his movies (witness historical abuses like 1492, Gladiator, Kingdom of Heaven, Robin Hood) so why should he pay any more attention to the future?
Chickenheads, in Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep, are people who are intellectually deficient (usually?) as a result of exposure to the fallout clouds that are floating around Earth after the nuclear war. In the book, J. F. Sebastian was a chickenhead, employed by a robot pet servicing company[1], who accidentally kills a cat because he thinks it's a robotic one and tries to recharge it.
In the film, for no obvious reason, he was rewritten as a genius and a confidante of Tyrell.
[1] One of the many subplots that the film deleted: The war was blamed on lack of empathy among human leaders and there was a strong social pressure to demonstrate empathy by owning an animal. Most animals had died in the nuclear war, so the rest were expensive. People who couldn't afford real animals kept electric ones and pretended that they were real.
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Contrary to popular belief, 1984 was not written as a prophetic view of the future. It was about what Orwell saw going on in the year he wrote it, 1948. It was his publisher that suggested transposing the last two digits to make it more provocative.
Unless Deckard also did not have an incept date, and they are growing old together and having kids. After all, the off world colonies need long term colonists and what would be more human than human that making your robots self replicating? It was a plot to get the two of them together and have a need to flee to the off world colonies, the one place they wouldn't be hounded.
I've seen things you wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.
Actually, he was contracted to make six movies: three prequels titled "Blade Crawler", "Blade Toddler" and "Blade Walker", followed by three sequels titled "Blade Hobbler", "Blade Roller" and "Blade Stiff".
Yup, good shows all. Each had a blend of story, characters, writing that made them worth watching.
Hollywood, distro channels, networks, all run on the feedback loop of Nielson/ad revenue/scheduling. Strictly bottom-line Friday kind of stuff. It's a wonder that a decent show lasts even a season. Compounded by networks going head-to-head against a show on another network competing for the same general demographic. Sucks, man.
Easily half the shows I've watched this past decade have been made in Canada. Must be the water, eh?
Oh - and if Blade Runner II gets made, it may be a 'commercial success' but even with Ridley, I misdoubt it'll be much in the way of a good flick.