Even people who are "mostly" honest and hardworking lie.
did you ever come in late and lied about it? Did you ever lie to get off work early one day? Did you ever lie to a co-worker?
Of course you did. You just don't see the lies as being harmful so you do it. You probably lie every day at least once if not a dozen times. They may be small lies but they are lies anyway.
As you go up in an organization lies get bigger and bigger and yet people still don't see it as harmful so they do it. They of course also do it to save their assess, to make themselves look better or to make other people look bad, or maybe just to shift the blame from themselves. The dog ate my homework I swear!.
It's a fact of life. Everybody lies every day. CIOs and politicians lie thousand times a day and about bigger things.
Maybe if you worked in a small or a medium sized business that neve really made a lot of money that's true. Even then I really doubt that people especially at the president and VP level did not lie a dozen times a day as a matter or routine. Did they ever lie to vendors? clients? employees? each other? The answer is "constantly".
It's impossible to do business without lying. Sorry to break the news to you.
Did a boss ever ask you how things were going? Did you lie them? Did anybody lie to a client about delivery dates? About the status of bugs? Did anybody ever lie to vendor in order to get a better deal? Did anybody lie to an employee who was about to be fired?
Volunteer to man an IRC channel. Write some documentation. Pretty up some already written documentation. Answer questions on the newsgroups without griping or insulting people. If you are German write the politicians praising them for their courage in choosing this solution and vote for them in the next election. If you are not German then write to them anyway and see if it's legal for you to send them some money. Even five or ten dollars would be a highly effective symbolic gesture.
The primary reasons for switching to linux were long term. They wanted to avoid a forced upgrade cycle and vendor lock in. I think everybody involved in the project understands that they will have to pay some up-front money, time, and effort in order to realize long term benefits.
If you recall the winning linux bid actually cost more then the competing windows bid.
I do find it highly unusual that any large entity let alone a governmental one actually chose to spend more money immediately to gain long term benefits though. That kind of thinking is pretty rare these days. I wish them all the luck.
I would like to see these benchmarks. Frankly unless they are about specific things (as you say micro benchmarks) I don't believe it. 1.5 is just around the corner and it's noticably faster then 1.4 was and had JVM sharing.
Finally I believe that mono will actually start to slow down when they start to become feature complete. Right now it's pretty bare.
maybe Mono is progressing fast but java is not standing still waiting for them to catch up.
And when they do their spending levels go down. Faced with real responsiblities and lack of funding from daddy they spend less on clothes, CDs, and other doo dads. Most of their money goes to food, beer and school.
Looks like you have locked yourself in to vendors closet. I don't think you'll ever get out.
This is why vendor lock is so bad. Ms has made it too expensive for you to ever switch to another product so they have you by the balls. They can keep jacking up the price of office every release and you have to pay because it's too expensive for you to switch.
Can this be used for disaster recovery. For example can I make one with support for my tape drive and install veritas on it. That way I can reinstall the OS from scratch on a new machine.
1) Make a rough guess as to how much money made from their illegal practices and make them pay that much money in fines.
2) Jail the principle decision makers for a brief time (maybe 6 months or so nothing serious).
3) Have Bill Gates issue a public apology and an admission of wrongdoing like all other criminals have to do.
4) Try people who lied during the trial and depositions for perjury.
5) Try people who doctored the video tape for evidence tampering.
6) Try people who intimidated witnesses during the trial by threating to charge more for windows if they testified against MS.
In this case there were both civil laws broken and criminal laws broken. Fines should be levied for civil violations and jail time for criminal ones.
"Too much "what if..." kind of fortune telling involved at the bench."
That's what a tial is for. That's what appeals are for. This is why we have court system.
A judge found MS guilty. MS appealed. A panel of three judges unanimously upheld the first judge. That's 100% agreement amongst four judges in two courts. There is no fuzziness here, there is no "what if" here. How much of a consensus do you need for god's sake.
You MS apologists need to start using a different argument to defend your corporation. There can be no doubt that MS was found guilty.
Punishing the rapist does not un-rape the victim and punishing the murderer does not bring back the victim. In both cases it costs the society lots of money to try, convict and imprison the perpetrator and puts the victims through a very hard trial and parole hearings.
Despite all that Americans believe that the guilty should be punished. That people should be held responsible for for their actions. That evil should not be allowed to triumph.
MS must be punished and very hard even it's hard for their customers and shareholders. Otherwise why even have a justice system.
"Why do people keep associating OSS with anti-Microsoft? "
It's because so many people hate Microsoft that's why. They hate MS so much that they project that hatred out to the people writing OSS and presume that the authors of OSS software must hate MS even more then they do. This goes for journalists too.
Of course nobody can blame them for hating MS. They are a sleazy company and they have made lying, cheating and stealing a core part of their business plan. If MS was a person they would be diagnosed as being psychotically anti-social and a danger to themselves and others.
It's OK to hate unethical companies but if you want to get back at them don't project your hate to other people or look to somebody else to "save" you. You should immediately stop using MS products (all of them including hardware) and then convince everyone you know to do the same. Until that happens MS will not reform.
I just installed 200 today. Hit the windows update and I don't know how many times I rebooted. After the first three or four windows update started failing completely and I had to download all the patches by hand install them one at a time.
Sucks big time compared to installing debian and typing apt-get upgrade.
Your prefered method still does not give me the convenience of checking the entire/etc directory into CVS or tarring it up to do a quich backup before mucking with the system.
Have you looked at encap? Do a search for it it's cool.
I ignore lots of philosphers usually it's because they are full of shit.
You asked me a rhetorical question. Would I throw a thousand babies into a fire to save my life. I answered honestly that I would.
But in reality tens of thousands of completely innocent people have been killed by your tax dollars and your country and your president. Not to save your life but to make your life a tiny little bit safer.
Imagine that. Just to reduce the risk of you might get killed a tiny percentage you dropped bombs on babies.
This is not a rhetorical question, it's a real fact. You actually killed people just to increase your security a tiny little bit.
You better be praying full time buddy. Don't waste your time hanging out in slashdot, God is right now looking down on you and asking you why your security is worth the lives tens of thousands of innocents.
Seems like W. Russell Jones is trying to apply 1900-era economics to a collaborative, abstract, not-truly-market-driven, positive-feedback context."
This of course means that in his case sex with a prostitute is much better then sex with his wife. His wife has sex with him because she loves him and that has got be inferior to a professional having sex with him for money.
OSS developers write code for love, proprietary developers code for money. Same thing.
The people who freaked over two seconds of tit time but are not at all upset over horses farting on womens faces and grown men hitting each other, scratching their balls, spitting and cursing are just weird.
"The primary difference is that Christians aren't promised heaven for killing others in war"
And yet this has never stopped stopped christians from killing in the name of their god.
"I beg to differ. Christ is God in flesh, whether you believe it or not."
You believe this because you are a superstitius person. You believe things people tell you even though you have no evidence for them.
"(I'm skipping the next two points since they were moot to start with, though your answers do show a certain arrogance which I find amusing.)"
When confronted with information that is contradictory to your deeply held beliefs it's best to ignore the information altogether.
"I discovered a great Chinese restaurant with my girlfriend last night. Or maybe I didn't, since other people already knew about it. Maybe you should rethink what "discovery" means."
I already explained this to you. It's a relative term. Columbus did not "discover" america because people were already living here for thousands of years before that. he did discover it for the portugese just like you discovered your chinese restaurant.
It's a culturally realitvistic truth. Some truths are like that.
" Because it is in simplicity that we are most likely to find the divine."
No not really. Simplicity is all that you can wrap your mind around but it is no way "divine".
"You should take a good, close look at your life, and ask yourself if you are really and truly fulfilled. "
You should look at yourself and find out why you are afraid to question what other people tell you to believe and think. Ignorace may be bliss but it's harmful too. As they say and unexamined life is not worth living.
"I'll pray for you"
Don't pray for me. There are a lot of people who need your prayer more. Start with praying for the more then ten thousand innocent iraqi civillians killed by your country. Apparently the mere shadow of a threat to your life was worth killing 10 thousand innocent people in iraq. While you are at it you may want to pray for the thousands of women and children in afghanistan too. They too died so that you could live more secure.
They all died by your hands (indirectly) and they all died so that there would be a lesser chance of you being attacked by terrorist. Your tax dollars bought the bombs and the ariplanes and guns that killed them least you could do is pray for them don't you think?
I disagree. Weasel word phrases don't carry information. The bags may have contained dope or they may not have contained dope, or they may have contained laundry. There is no information there, no facts.
"And yet you attack others for supposedly condoning violence? Interesting...."
Yes I do. There is a difference between choosing your life over some body elses and killing people because they belong to another political party. I can make that distinction but apparently you can't.
Do you understand the difference between the two positions? I don't advocate the actual killing of people just because they belong to another party or think differently then me. On the other hand if it was a choice between my life and yours I choose mine.
Think of it this way. Is your life worth 10 thousand iraqis? It is isn't it? It's worth killing 10 thousand innocent iraqi civillians just so that Saddam Hussein won't one day make a weapon and attack you. The mere (and unlikely) possibility that you might one day die from a weapon made by Saddam is worth killing 10 thousand innocent people in Iraq right?
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Even people who are "mostly" honest and hardworking lie.
did you ever come in late and lied about it? Did you ever lie to get off work early one day? Did you ever lie to a co-worker?
Of course you did. You just don't see the lies as being harmful so you do it. You probably lie every day at least once if not a dozen times. They may be small lies but they are lies anyway.
As you go up in an organization lies get bigger and bigger and yet people still don't see it as harmful so they do it. They of course also do it to save their assess, to make themselves look better or to make other people look bad, or maybe just to shift the blame from themselves. The dog ate my homework I swear!.
It's a fact of life. Everybody lies every day. CIOs and politicians lie thousand times a day and about bigger things.
Bullshit. Never? Not once? Not even to yourself?
You are lying.
Maybe if you worked in a small or a medium sized business that neve really made a lot of money that's true. Even then I really doubt that people especially at the president and VP level did not lie a dozen times a day as a matter or routine. Did they ever lie to vendors? clients? employees? each other? The answer is "constantly".
It's impossible to do business without lying. Sorry to break the news to you.
Did a boss ever ask you how things were going? Did you lie them? Did anybody lie to a client about delivery dates? About the status of bugs? Did anybody ever lie to vendor in order to get a better deal? Did anybody lie to an employee who was about to be fired?
I know it was a joke but let me tell you something.
The further up you go in an organization more you lie every day. If you are aprogrammer you might only have to lie once or twice a week.
If you are promoted then you find yourself lying more often because you have to lie both to your bosses and your underlings.
As you go up you may find yourself lying a dozen times a day just to get through.
I imagine a CEO pretty much lies constantly. I bet they don't even know the difference between a truth and a lie anymore.
Volunteer to man an IRC channel.
Write some documentation.
Pretty up some already written documentation.
Answer questions on the newsgroups without griping or insulting people.
If you are German write the politicians praising them for their courage in choosing this solution and vote for them in the next election.
If you are not German then write to them anyway and see if it's legal for you to send them some money. Even five or ten dollars would be a highly effective symbolic gesture.
The primary reasons for switching to linux were long term. They wanted to avoid a forced upgrade cycle and vendor lock in. I think everybody involved in the project understands that they will have to pay some up-front money, time, and effort in order to realize long term benefits.
If you recall the winning linux bid actually cost more then the competing windows bid.
I do find it highly unusual that any large entity let alone a governmental one actually chose to spend more money immediately to gain long term benefits though. That kind of thinking is pretty rare these days. I wish them all the luck.
I would like to see these benchmarks. Frankly unless they are about specific things (as you say micro benchmarks) I don't believe it. 1.5 is just around the corner and it's noticably faster then 1.4 was and had JVM sharing.
Finally I believe that mono will actually start to slow down when they start to become feature complete. Right now it's pretty bare.
maybe Mono is progressing fast but java is not standing still waiting for them to catch up.
"Strangely enough teenagers grow up."
And when they do their spending levels go down. Faced with real responsiblities and lack of funding from daddy they spend less on clothes, CDs, and other doo dads. Most of their money goes to food, beer and school.
Is the mono CLR even close being as fast as java or C++?
Looks like you have locked yourself in to vendors closet. I don't think you'll ever get out.
This is why vendor lock is so bad. Ms has made it too expensive for you to ever switch to another product so they have you by the balls. They can keep jacking up the price of office every release and you have to pay because it's too expensive for you to switch.
Can this be used for disaster recovery. For example can I make one with support for my tape drive and install veritas on it. That way I can reinstall the OS from scratch on a new machine.
Hell does it support ntbackup?
"What do you propose that we do?"
1) Make a rough guess as to how much money made from their illegal practices and make them pay that much money in fines.
2) Jail the principle decision makers for a brief time (maybe 6 months or so nothing serious).
3) Have Bill Gates issue a public apology and an admission of wrongdoing like all other criminals have to do.
4) Try people who lied during the trial and depositions for perjury.
5) Try people who doctored the video tape for evidence tampering.
6) Try people who intimidated witnesses during the trial by threating to charge more for windows if they testified against MS.
In this case there were both civil laws broken and criminal laws broken. Fines should be levied for civil violations and jail time for criminal ones.
"Too much "what if..." kind of fortune telling involved at the bench."
That's what a tial is for. That's what appeals are for. This is why we have court system.
A judge found MS guilty. MS appealed. A panel of three judges unanimously upheld the first judge. That's 100% agreement amongst four judges in two courts. There is no fuzziness here, there is no "what if" here. How much of a consensus do you need for god's sake.
You MS apologists need to start using a different argument to defend your corporation. There can be no doubt that MS was found guilty.
Punishing the rapist does not un-rape the victim and punishing the murderer does not bring back the victim. In both cases it costs the society lots of money to try, convict and imprison the perpetrator and puts the victims through a very hard trial and parole hearings.
Despite all that Americans believe that the guilty should be punished. That people should be held responsible for for their actions. That evil should not be allowed to triumph.
MS must be punished and very hard even it's hard for their customers and shareholders. Otherwise why even have a justice system.
I bet there are 10 small businesses in your town who'd love to install linux for you for a minimal fee and would support you afterwards.
You only have to hang out at newsgroups if you are anti-social and don't have friends with similar interests.
"Why do people keep associating OSS with anti-Microsoft? "
It's because so many people hate Microsoft that's why. They hate MS so much that they project that hatred out to the people writing OSS and presume that the authors of OSS software must hate MS even more then they do. This goes for journalists too.
Of course nobody can blame them for hating MS. They are a sleazy company and they have made lying, cheating and stealing a core part of their business plan. If MS was a person they would be diagnosed as being psychotically anti-social and a danger to themselves and others.
It's OK to hate unethical companies but if you want to get back at them don't project your hate to other people or look to somebody else to "save" you. You should immediately stop using MS products (all of them including hardware) and then convince everyone you know to do the same. Until that happens MS will not reform.
I just installed 200 today. Hit the windows update and I don't know how many times I rebooted. After the first three or four windows update started failing completely and I had to download all the patches by hand install them one at a time.
Sucks big time compared to installing debian and typing apt-get upgrade.
Your prefered method still does not give me the convenience of checking the entire /etc directory into CVS or tarring it up to do a quich backup before mucking with the system.
Have you looked at encap? Do a search for it it's cool.
I would think it'd be pretty easy to build a sync program for linux based PDAs. Maybe the Mac users will migrate to them.
I ignore lots of philosphers usually it's because they are full of shit.
You asked me a rhetorical question. Would I throw a thousand babies into a fire to save my life. I answered honestly that I would.
But in reality tens of thousands of completely innocent people have been killed by your tax dollars and your country and your president. Not to save your life but to make your life a tiny little bit safer.
Imagine that. Just to reduce the risk of you might get killed a tiny percentage you dropped bombs on babies.
This is not a rhetorical question, it's a real fact. You actually killed people just to increase your security a tiny little bit.
You better be praying full time buddy. Don't waste your time hanging out in slashdot, God is right now looking down on you and asking you why your security is worth the lives tens of thousands of innocents.
" 'You get what you pay for'?
Seems like W. Russell Jones is trying to apply 1900-era economics to a collaborative, abstract, not-truly-market-driven, positive-feedback context."
This of course means that in his case sex with a prostitute is much better then sex with his wife. His wife has sex with him because she loves him and that has got be inferior to a professional having sex with him for money.
OSS developers write code for love, proprietary developers code for money. Same thing.
What is your record for the mile?
You are talking about the extremes there. How many women at your workplace can outrun you in the mile?
The people who freaked over two seconds of tit time but are not at all upset over horses farting on womens faces and grown men hitting each other, scratching their balls, spitting and cursing are just weird.
"The primary difference is that Christians aren't promised heaven for killing others in war"
And yet this has never stopped stopped christians from killing in the name of their god.
"I beg to differ. Christ is God in flesh, whether you believe it or not."
You believe this because you are a superstitius person. You believe things people tell you even though you have no evidence for them.
"(I'm skipping the next two points since they were moot to start with, though your answers do show a certain arrogance which I find amusing.)"
When confronted with information that is contradictory to your deeply held beliefs it's best to ignore the information altogether.
"I discovered a great Chinese restaurant with my girlfriend last night. Or maybe I didn't, since other people already knew about it. Maybe you should rethink what "discovery" means."
I already explained this to you. It's a relative term. Columbus did not "discover" america because people were already living here for thousands of years before that. he did discover it for the portugese just like you discovered your chinese restaurant.
It's a culturally realitvistic truth. Some truths are like that.
" Because it is in simplicity that we are most likely to find the divine."
No not really. Simplicity is all that you can wrap your mind around but it is no way "divine".
"You should take a good, close look at your life, and ask yourself if you are really and truly fulfilled. "
You should look at yourself and find out why you are afraid to question what other people tell you to believe and think. Ignorace may be bliss but it's harmful too. As they say and unexamined life is not worth living.
"I'll pray for you"
Don't pray for me. There are a lot of people who need your prayer more. Start with praying for the more then ten thousand innocent iraqi civillians killed by your country. Apparently the mere shadow of a threat to your life was worth killing 10 thousand innocent people in iraq. While you are at it you may want to pray for the thousands of women and children in afghanistan too. They too died so that you could live more secure.
They all died by your hands (indirectly) and they all died so that there would be a lesser chance of you being attacked by terrorist. Your tax dollars bought the bombs and the ariplanes and guns that killed them least you could do is pray for them don't you think?
I disagree. Weasel word phrases don't carry information. The bags may have contained dope or they may not have contained dope, or they may have contained laundry. There is no information there, no facts.
"And yet you attack others for supposedly condoning violence? Interesting...."
Yes I do. There is a difference between choosing your life over some body elses and killing people because they belong to another political party. I can make that distinction but apparently you can't.
Do you understand the difference between the two positions? I don't advocate the actual killing of people just because they belong to another party or think differently then me. On the other hand if it was a choice between my life and yours I choose mine.
Think of it this way. Is your life worth 10 thousand iraqis? It is isn't it? It's worth killing 10 thousand innocent iraqi civillians just so that Saddam Hussein won't one day make a weapon and attack you. The mere (and unlikely) possibility that you might one day die from a weapon made by Saddam is worth killing 10 thousand innocent people in Iraq right?