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Re:Closing gender gaps selectively
There is. Getting equality for fathers, such as equal access to parental leave, is all part of an effort to get men to participate equally in child rearing. That in turn
...Demonstrates hypocrisy of the said "equality" organizations, blocking shared parenting bills left and right.
A fun fact: UK women group protesting against women and men retiring at the same age (they wanted to keep it old ways, when women would retire when 5 years younger) had "for equality" in their name.
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Re: What if the same person submitted DNA twice
Paternity test are illegal in France? Coo coo ka choo I'm indeed.
https://www.avoiceformen.com/m...
Weirdest damn thing I ever saw. Apparently women are allowed to rut with whoever they feel like and their husbands must submit. Institutionalized approval of female infidelity.
French Psychologists have determined that paternity is not related to biology, but society. Sorry Psychologists that's so wrong as to demand a total breakdown of society.
Good job France, creating a situation where the man might lose less if he just kills his wife than trying to divorce her and/or paying child support for some bastard for 18 years.
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Re: What if the same person submitted DNA twice
Paternity test are illegal in France? Coo coo ka choo I'm indeed.
https://www.avoiceformen.com/m...
Weirdest damn thing I ever saw. Apparently women are allowed to rut with whoever they feel like and their husbands must submit. Institutionalized approval of female infidelity.
French Psychologists have determined that paternity is not related to biology, but society. Sorry Psychologists that's so wrong as to demand a total breakdown of society.
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Re:what point? Libertarians vote fasist
You talk a good talk - link to your assertion above?
http://dailycaller.com/2015/11...
That doesn't support your assertion that whites feel oppressed by brown skinned people. You don't have a link, do you?
Link?
http://www.avoiceformen.com/fe...
That also doesn't support your assertion that claims of college feminists are oppressing others. I did only quickly skim it, true, but I found the main point to be that women on the whole are better off than men. In western societies this is true by most objective measures anyway so I'm not sure why anyone would bother writing a blog post asserting it.
You set 'em up, goose, and I'll knock 'em down.
I'd be impressed if you did.
-goose, too lazy to log in.
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Re:what point? Libertarians vote fasist
You talk a good talk - link to your assertion above?
http://dailycaller.com/2015/11...
Link?
http://www.avoiceformen.com/fe...
You set 'em up, goose, and I'll knock 'em down.
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Re:Worst?
Ask non-SJW males on most college campuses what power SJW's have.
They can get men kicked out of school for rape when no raping happens - with no refunds or ability to argue their position due to SJW pressure. False rape accusations aren't that uncommon.
Ask anyone with any connection to the gaming industry, be it a developer or a gamer what SJW's can do. Rumors have it that top developers have mandated new games have female villains and heroes even if it doesn't make sense.
They've pretty much ruined social media unless you stick to very small specific circles.
They've messed up Slashdot too. We have to have at least one SJW article about why we should all feel guilty women don't want to be in STEM fields. (my wife has explained this to me BTW and it's not a very PC answer)
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Re:And?
This makes it seem like they wish there were more female serial killers.
Well.. as long as they were killing men, of course.
History repeats itself once again. Not so long ago it was difficult to convict female serial killers due to the all-male jurors. One of the primary arguments for initial Women's Rights supporters was that unless women were judges and jurors other women wouldn't be held accountable. (See section #6: Chivalry Justice) Unfortunately, after feminists hijacked the women's rights movement they renounced accountability in favor of no-due process or accountability.
It's not that we with there were more serial killers (female or male), it's just that we wish killers were recognized as such.
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Re:acceptance is the only fair outcome
but it's the misogyny that is far, far more worse and embedded in social norms and power structures in jobs and schools,
Boys are killing themselves at 6 times the rate than in the 70's. Women dominate college enrollment and diploma earners. Furthermore, watch this, then tell me about "social norms". The fact that TFA is even being discussed shows that people actually do care about women, in fact, society is predisposed to rush to the aid of crying women. Prohibition was called for by some whiny puritan women, and they got it. You're a historical revisionist. Husbands used to go to jail for their wifes' crimes. Female serial killers were notoriously hard to prosecute thanks to the chivalry of male jurors and officials (see #6), and today men still serve longer sentences for the same crimes.
Here's a documentary about workplace sex differences from the most egalitarian country in the world. Researchers have found cross-culturally (thus not social norms) that the more egalitarian a country is, the more gender differences exist. This is likely because men and women are different and thus prefer different things (otherwise, reproduction wouldn't work); So, when you give them more freedom to decide what jobs they want they express their differences more. Humans are sexually dimorphic species, and it would be foolish to think that the same selection bias that created their very different bodies had no effect on one of the biggest and most complicated organs: Their brains.
Care to cite any facts? After 40 years of disproving social justice whiners I have mountains of evidence to back my claims. Here, have 286 studies that show women are as aggressive or more aggressive than men when it comes to domestic violence, but you won't hear any SJW advocating for Battered Men's homes, even though they're 40% of the victims of abuse, and the target of ~90% of all violent crimes, and make up over 80% of the homeless.
There are over 200 US government programs that exclusively benefit women, and few if any that benefit exclusively men (I couldn't find one). If you want to end sexism, why not have programs that grant assistance to any in need, regardless of race, creed or sex. I'm a poor white kid who grew up in the ghetto, and was beaten up regularly just for being white. My best friend was a black girl. I was every bit as disadvantaged as she, and she had government programs for housing and college available to her, I was excluded from assistance based on my sex and race. My skin and penis didn't win me any sympathy or "privilege". When I cried beaten bloody in the street no one came to my aid, but a startled women cried out at the site of me, men rushed to her aid.
You SJWs say that those who have privilege are blind to it. How ironic that in this gynocentric society, you would continue to be blind to the privileges afforded women, claiming that they are the most oppressed by sexism, meanwhile ignoring that any attempt to garner support for men's issues is typically met with contempt and loathing. Women are pandered to in everything from voting since women are the majority of voters and swing voters and women decide where ~70% of the nation's income is spent.
You want to talk about social norms? How about this: Men are disposed to sacrifice themselves for the benefit of women and children, and for the "privilege" of fulfilling such duty we get less empathy, less rights, less assistance, and a constantly whining bunch of idiots telling us how bad women still have it because they don't like doing the largel
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Re:Modded Interesting? More like Totally Made Up
Your numbers sound pretty made up, especially anything that's 99% and 100%, or "in no cases." Let me guess, they were "not intended as a factual statement"?
http://www.irishcentral.com/ne...
And of course the ratio of male to female suicides locally is higher than even the normal 4:1, it's 5:1.
In the same article, they make the point that the wife is usually poorer and has a worse employment situation, a correlation that explains most or all of this imbalance. Judges are going to award more financial support to the poorer party, and if you don't correct for that, you're presenting very misleading stats. Though given the totally made-up numbers you scattered throughout your entire post, I guess you don't care.
Now if only those judgements were accompanied by genuine shared parenting legislation rather than a weekend every fortnight or what have you, and few penalties for making even that much harder. This is often accompanied by something known as "parental alienation", you should look it up.
And who bitterly and relentlessly opposes shared parenting legislation?
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Re:Such harassment
I don't think they think the "trifling" transgressions are "just as bad". I've never heard anyone say, or even suggest, that they are "just as bad".
I don't think most people (even most strong feminists) would say things like that, but the word "rape" is coming up increasingly in relation to things that are nowhere near as extreme. For an extreme example:
Goshen College of Indiana declared all male students who stare at women as rapists early this year.
They state on their website:
"Don't allow psychological rape or commit it yourself. Psychological rape consists of verbal harassment, whistles, kissing noises, heavy breathing, sly comments or stares. These are all assaults on any woman's sense of well-being."
It looks like the link has since been taken down (but you can still see archived screenshots here).
Obviously this is an extremist perspective. But the ideas are out there, and it's not surprising that some people will equate "trifling transgressions" with much worse things, given the common use of the phrase "rape culture" in recent years.
And if you haven't heard of "rape culture," just search for it. It's the more extreme, but still quite common, term for the misogynist aspects of out culture (the kind of thing #YesAllWomen is about).
Obviously, some of these misogynist tendencies are often terrible. But referring to it as "rape culture" or calling stares "assault" or advocating guidelines against "psychological rape" risks trivializing ACTUAL sexual assault and rape, which is a horrific crime.
On the other hand, I've seen very good evidence presented that the "trifling" transgressions tend to correlate strongly with environments in which people are a lot more comfortable pushing things a lot harder. which means that there is at least some reason to believe that they may contribute to an environment where people will think they can get away with rape.
This is probably true. But, contrary to your initial claim, there ARE people who are making an implicit equivalence between actual rape and these lesser offenses. Like any hyperbole, it risks simply offending the opponents of any ideas -- so rather than teaching people appropriate guidelines for conduct and what constitutes "harassment," you end up alienating people when you say "rape culture," because the vast majority of people (even those who might sometimes harass someone) are not actually rapists... and when asked to combat that, instead of more mild "harassment," they may just ignore the inflammatory rhetoric.
Heck, even the RAINN (the largest US organization dedicated to reducing sexual assault) has explicitly noted the problems of current nomenclature and the improper equivalence created by it (from one of their reports to the White House):
In the last few years, there has been an unfortunate trend towards blaming 'rape culture' for the extensive problem of sexual violence on campuses. While it is helpful to point out the systemic barriers to addressing the problem, it is important to not lose sight of a simple fact: Rape is caused not by cultural factors but by the conscious decisions, of a small percentage of the community, to commit a violent crime
Moreover, they argue that this emphasis on the larger culture (and attempts to stop minor behaviors) sometimes actually CONTRIBUTES to sexual violence, since individuals may come to believe that rape is simply a societal "norm" since everyone talks about it so much, rather than a crime committed by rare and specific ind
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Re: The worst thing...
Yes, women rule over us. That's why they make more money than men, dictate what men must look like with fashion magazines, hold 90% or more of the political positions, and head up most corporations.
Well, Never married women have earned more than never married men for decades.
Women are the primary writers for fashion magazines, and designers of fashion clothing and accessories -- The looks are due to the fact that women and men both concentrate on women's chests and waists (so much for "male gaze").
Women are not only the majority of voters, they are also the majority of swing voters therefore politics will bend over backwards to advance women's interests while leaving men and boys to tough it out on their own. That's why even though men are over 80% of the homeless and over 80% of the victims of violent crimes, there are a plethora of women's shelters and few if any for men. The corporations and politicians will bow to quickly dodge any accusation of sexism, even if unfounded; That's why affirmative action and title IX still exist even while women are the majority of graduates and degree earners and even the president has spouted the wage gap myth despite all evidence proving that it does not exist -- Women do have babies.
It's interesting you'd frame the issue as one of women ruling over men as being obviously farcical. Well, it is. Realize however, that the Patriarchy Theory is equally as moronic. No one is trying to say that women are holding men back, the men are clearly not holding females back either. Men and women value their time differently because men and women are different and make different choices at different rates, especially concerning risk taking. So, the more risky job paths that take you to the top of the market are occupied by primarily men, even though equal opportunity is given to both men and women. Likewise most risky low tier jobs like sewage treatment technician, garbage person, janitor, coal miner, construction worker, etc. are all male dominated jobs. Over 90% of workplace deaths are men... Should we be doing something to get more men and women in jobs they don't want? You want to write code? Sorry we need more women coal miners. You want to be an engineer? Sorry, we need more male romance novelists. If 25% of the applicants are female, you wouldn't expect 50% of the top positions to go to women, eh?
1 == 1; 50% == 50%; 25% == 25%; 10% == 10% This is equality. Proportional representation according to proportional effort and risk.No one's saying women are ruling over men. We're saying that men have issues too. Women's rights are Human Rights. Men's rights are Human Rights too. Don't conflate Feminism with Equality. Feminism is an ideology. Rights activism doesn't need ideologies. Women's rights doesn't need feminism.
So, your stance is completely unfounded and wrong. Let me guess, a feminist told you those easy to believe lies?
"If you believe in being good, then you're a Christian!" Would you believe this crap?
"If you believe in individualism, then you're a Satanist!" Would you believe this crap?
"If you believe in racial equality, then you're a KKK member!" Would you believe this crap?
"If you believe in gender equality, then you're a Feminist!" Why would you believe this crap?Additionally: If you don't think companies don't break their necks to avoid feminist ire, then you haven't been paying attention to the fact that feminists petitioned Facebook to allow them censorship powers, Norton and other web filters have considered Men's and Father's issues websites to be hate-speech? I wonder where they got that idea? Certainly not from
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Re:Yeah
Don't be a nitwit.
Google is your friend. That page links here, and here's the damn "reputable peer reviewed Scientific Journal".
And just so you know, Contrary to what the mainstream media would have you believe, Men's Rights Advocacy isn't for hate-mongers, its memebers are frequently also Women's Rights Activists, and many vocal members are Women. It's actually the opposition that's hateful. The feminists have a majority voice in media and politics right now, so I don't blame you if you adopt their easy to believe lies without wondering why they're not based on any science, but untestable opinionated ideas instead...Interestingly, ABC also brought us D is for Dad and Dumb" the weekend of this past Father's Day... Wha? But isn't that kind of... anti-men? You wouldn't have a segment like that on mother's day eh? Interesting that I made this comment on the 20/20 article page about the "manosphere", and provided a link to the source of some of their material that proves that they were purposefully factually wrong about A Voice for Men -- They cited "hate speech" that's an example of will get you banned...
Protected by the anonymity of the Internet, men feel free to post hateful and violent comments. Posts such as "I really wouldn't mind shooting a [expletive] dead in the face, they are evil, all of them," and "Women are the natural enemies of men" are commonplace on sites like "A Voice for Men," a Manosphere blog run by Paul Elam.
Search that quote, the page it appears on AVFM is here, where he says this about that comment:
No Redpill, fuck this kind of post. It has been sent to the trash where it belongs, and I am willing to do the same with your username if you ever post this kind of garbage to my website again.
As expected, all of the comments that demonstrate the ABC article as biased and factually wrong have been deleted from it.
Oh, but this is Slashdot, so of course you and the mods can think for your selves, eh? You don't need help "tracking" any information "origin to its roots".
+1 redundant please, and thank you.
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Re:Really, Boylan?
Well if you're interested there are several websites you can check-out:
Owning Your Shit
A Voice for Menand they each have Twitter feeds worth following.
Of course there are many, many more such sites.
It's worth looking into the Men's Rights Movement (MRM).
A small number of MRA's (Men's Rights Activists) do spew hatred, but the vast majority are quite coherent individuals who back-up their grievances with solid facts / stats. -
Re:Really? Political correctness?
Well if you're interested there are several websites you can check-out:
Owning Your Shit
A Voice for Menand they each have Twitter feeds worth following.
Of course there are many, many more such sites.
It's worth looking into the Men's Rights Movement (MRM).
A small number of MRA's (Men's Rights Activists) do spew hatred, but the vast majority are quite coherent individuals who back-up their grievances with solid facts / stats. -
Re:Feminism
In Britain, feminists are campaigning for this practice to be made part of the law, and the government are supporting it. I wrote about it in this article.
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Re:Donglegate? Really?