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GitHub Takes Down Satirical 'C Plus Equality' Language
FooAtWFU writes "Some clowns and jokers over at 4chan thought it would be a funny idea to put together a web page for a programming language named 'C Plus Equality' as a parody of feminism, dismissing OOP as 'objectifying' and inheritance as "a tool of the patriarchy". But this parody was apparently too hot to host at Github, which took down the original Github repository after receiving criticism on Twitter, prompting a backlash and inquiry into the role of free speech and censorship on Github's platform. The project has since found a new home on BitBucket, at least for the time being." Comments on an article describing the research which sparked the parody call the parody's language "fake," and compare it to the 1996 Sokal affair. (It also reminds me a bit of Jesux.)
Is that Github also killed off all the forked versions of the repo as well, not just the main one.
I'm a little bit annoyed that they both have this power and used it in this wya.
It seems it was also too hot for Hacker News to discuss.
The World Wide Web is dying. Soon, we shall have only the Internet.
Oh this thread should be good, combining programming, version control, feminism and censorship in one delicious gooey filling. Making popcorn. BRB.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
As far as I understand, the deleted project did not break laws or Github's rules.
It looks to me that the Github's deletion act is a violation of free speech.
Isn't that an oxymoron?
She wasn't aware of C Plus Equality until now
CLI paste? paste.pr0.tips!
Specifically it looks like it might be a satire of the entirely serious Feminist programming Language discussion (http://m.hastac.org/blogs/ari-schlesinger/2013/11/26/feminism-and-programming-languages).
"The idea came about while discussing normative and feminist subject object theory. I realized that object oriented programmed reifies normative subject object theory. This led me to wonder what a feminist programming language would look like, one that might allow you to create entanglements (Karen Barad Posthumanist Performativity)."
Troll is not a replacement for I disagree.
so we see being condescending doesn't help
linking to a 4chan thread in the summery...this should go well.
https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew/pull/8253
I am sorry, but C+= is not the first parody language.....
GitHub is a place for code, not political activism. If your project is more the latter than the former, it deserves to be removed. Put it on your own blog instead.
The Sokal affair was an academic exercise, comparing this to it is not adequate. On the other hand, indeed it's just like Jesux.
You do realize "Timothy" (OP) that these threads die in hours on 4chan... right?
they are totally within their rights of being that lame, of course, but they chose to be totally lame here.
Ah well, good for BitBucket.
The difference is that mindfuck isn't targeting one group of people with a demeaning "parody".
glorious
Imperative languages are patriarchal - some privileged brogrammer barking orders - so surely a declarative language is the way to go?
In fact, the only feminist program you ever need to write goes:
RADICAL NOTION: women==people
...and then any non-patriarchal machine knows what you want done.
The only relevant issues I see here are:
1) Is this parody within the scope of GitHub's reason-for-existance?
2) If it is outside of this scope, how has and how will GitHub treat similar repositories?
Unless GitHub has had a similar situation in the past and treated this repository differently, save the outrage until someone else comes along and pushes the boundaries in a similar way and GitHub reacts in a significantly different way without explaining why.
Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
Given this community's gender troubles (e.g. http://www.livescience.com/9772-geeks-drive-girls-computer-science.html), does mocking feminists do anything other than confirm the boy's club. Yes, misapplying feminist critiques of male dominated society to programming languages is amusing, but really lads, time to clean up the house.
This language shares more problematic traits with Python: indentation rather than curly brackets (but ignore the example programs), a too-loose exposure of private members, and the biggie: the language designer has no beard.
And if they did an all mens language it would have a syntax like where variable assignment goes on the right.
value operator variable
The to help make sure that stupid mistakes like mixing up = and == the = operator would be extended to ====.
A typical line of program would look like.
8====D
Mindfuck is also an actual interpreter for an actual programming language. It may not be the most useful programming language, but it is one. The interpreter's source code is what's hosted on Github: it's code, in a code repository, pretty much the kind of thing GitHub intends to host. C+= was not a language implementation, not even an implementation of a parody language.
10 PRINT CHR$(205.5+RND(1)); : GOTO 10
Right cause that would not happen on github:
https://github.com/Ossendar/octopus-feminazi
https://github.com/search?q=nigger&type=Repositories&ref=searchresults
https://github.com/k0r3/JewCoin
Threads on /g/ rarely last more than a day (just due to how fast the board is) and that thread especially will hit the culling limit soon. You should replace the link with this one: http://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/g/thread/38739122 or any other reputable 4chan archive site
As a matter of being polite, free hosting services like GitHub should have a "standard practice" of providing an "easy download of all data" for discontinued accounts.
For collaborative projects, this might be either putting the thing in "read only" mode for several weeks or bundling up the whole thing in a tarball-like dataset (in a non-proprietary format of course) and letting anyone who previously contributed download the thing for a reasonable period of time.
This would be "standard practice." There would be case-by-case exceptions for things which cannot be hosted in this way, such as material that would put an undue burden on the hosting service or which is otherwise infeasible or impossible for the hosting service to provide this kind of "graceful exit."
In short: To maintain good public relations, services should make reasonable efforts to assist those who uploaded data or who participated in collaborative projects can get their data back if the account is suddenly terminated by the hosting service.
Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
to protest coding standards that require constants to be placed on the left side of an equality comparison, violating 40+ years of traditional practice:
if (0 != nIterations)
{
...
}
Notice that a newline precedes the open curly brace... those same coding standards always require that too.
The real question is: on which ground, that is, on what T.O.S. did the GitHub team acts upon to disable this repository ?
THAT'S NOT FUNNY!
Yes, because it's wrong to make fun of the language people use to make their political statements.
This would not be the first time. Earlier this year, the Extremely Vocal Minority had Locus Online take down my April Fools piece.
Original feminists had real complaints. Third Wave/Race Critical Theory/Victimhood Identity Politics feminists seem to believe that they have a right not to be offended.
Lawrence Person (lawrencepersonh@gmailh.com (remove all "h"s to mail)
http://www.lawrenceperson.com/
...but it's ok when it's politicians, lawyers, or a company brand you don't like, right?
Github is not some public square for satirical commentary on everyday life. Its for code.
Let me get this straight: Are you claiming that it's impossible for code itself to contain "satirical commentary on everyday life"?
I read the article that started all this, and all of the very interesting comments on that page. I really do mean it when I say some of her thinking may actually have applications in computer science. But all I keep thinking is: god forbid anyone explain male and female connectors to that lady. Can you imagine a hard drive that must give consent before you plug in the SATA cable? Worse?
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Feminism, in just about all its various forms, is about relationships among human beings, especially where those relationships concern women and girls. Programming, on the other hand, is about human-machine relationships, in particular about how humans -- who tend to think in very fuzzy ways -- can control and manipulate computing devices that "think" in very exacting ways are are very good at doing what they are told rather than what we want them to do. Feminism is certainly relevant to how programmers interact with one another, but not so much with the programming itself.
This is kind of a no win for Github. Consider that Github doesn't care one way or the other about feminist agenda, they still have a problem. The choice they have is taking a hit for a day or so from a whatever feminist backlash there is vs. having to deal with prolonged feminist hammering them over supposedly being anti-women. Looks like they chose the former. I get this - who wants women nagging at them constantly? One might as well get married.
At this point the argument is no longer about Github vs. men, it is about feminist and their ability to lobby censorship vs. men. Completely understandable as a business decision.
Irony here is that Github probably wouldn't have been in this situation if it didn't explicitly reserve the right to refuse service for any reason.
are you serious? feminism is belief system not a set of people.
No-one's saying they shouldn't have that power. They're saying that they misused it in this instance.
Removing satire because you find it offensive is generally douchey behaviour for any admin/moderator.
I cant wait to see how people defend a compiler that makes fun of the equal treatment of Latinos or African Americans. My heart died a little today reading these comments.
Maybe add bitwise not as a postfix operator?
8====D~~~~
Do you even lift?
These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.
women==people
This seems to be an exceptionally hard concept for many people to grasp.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
There is an interpreter in the making for C+=.
Yes, some people are that dedicated to it.
They are just getting the syntax down first before making this world-changing language.
Three? Two to argue about how inserting something into a socket is required for it to work is misogynist, and one to call a man.
Learn to love Alaska
oh you. The term fuck is heteronormative, because lesbians cannot really fuck each other!
No it isn't. The vast majority of people agree with it. The problem is that feminists make a number of ideological propositions that they (rather poorly) infer from this concept, and then decide that anybody who doesn't make the same dodgy inferences doesn't agree with the concept. This, amongst other reasons, is why feminism has a credibility problem.
No, it's two. One to call a man and the other to call the cops on the rapist, because he didn't ask for consent before screwing.
It appears they have an irc now... #cplusequality on freenode
No, there are code samples. Here's my fav: https://bitbucket.org/FeministSoftwareFoundation/c-plus-equality/src/mistress/fizzbuzz.Xe
"We receive as friendly that which agrees with, we resist with dislike that which opposes us" - Faraday
This is due to the NEVER ending saga of attention whore Rebecca Watson.
Intro:
Rebecca Watson runs a website (skepchick.org) which focuses, obviously, on feminism and skepticism, which is not news worthy of itself but she also has a subreddit on reddit, /r/atheismplus that is supposedly atheism+feminism but it's like 99% feminism and 1% atheism, except the "atheism" is actually atheism "lite" aka weak atheism, aka agnosticism. In other words they're merely using atheism as a tool for their feminist agenda.
PLUS the atheism+ crowd also runs /r/ShitRedditSays where they call out certain posts & certain posters and then gang downvote and harass people for things like making vaguely sexist or even merely sexual jokes by calling people rapists, misogynists and the like.
The incident that just won't fucking die:
Rebecca Watson was giving a speech at some skeptic conference and some guy (her direct story) asked her to have coffee with him (NOTHING else happened, no stalking, intimidation, etc) while they were in an elevator and she flipped out, cried sexual harassment, cried RAPE, and generally made a mountain out of literally nothing, a non-incident that other women wouldn't even give a 2nd thought to because most women have to deal with men asking them out all the time. But not Rebecca, for her it seems to be a first. Apparently men aren't even allowed to ask women out for a drink, for example, according to her.
The NEVER ending saga:
Since then, Rebecca keeps bringing up this (non)incident over and over and over, embellishing the story, imbuing it with more emotional pron and just won't let it fucking drop. This has gone on for at least 2 or 3 years now, maybe more-I forget, and she clings to this tale even after all the backlash has turned her into a self-parody of epic proportions. Either she is so stupid that she completely misses/ignores the mockery or she realizes that she will never have another "rape" incident in her life so she has to make this non-rape fairytale work for her because she is (I'll be kind) rather unattractive and it's hard to imagine even a homeless mongoloid with turrets finding her the object of his desires. On a positive note: at least she no longer wears the multi-colored clown wig hair-do.
To fan the flames of her self-martyrdom, aka lust for attention, she has authored articles like "Reddit Makes Me Hate Atheists" and gotten into gigantic public spats with other attention whores like youtube's TheAmazingAtheist, who promptly threatened her with rape (a joke she took seriously) because he's also an epic attention whore and a total worthless dick, and this C+= parody is just yet another step on the long journey thru the hell that is the tortured existence of Rebecca Watson.
If she would STFU for even a minute this would all fade quickly and be forgotten but NO!!! she won't because then everyone would forget she exists and her crappy website(s) would just be a small handful of angry femi-nazi misandrists talking to themselves about hair dye and how much they hate their dads.
Everyone RESENTS Rebecca's 1) attention whoring, 2) rape misrepresentations, 3) attempted high-jacking of atheism for her own personal fame, and 4) they are all incredulous that anyone actually would ask someone on a date who is so physically unattractive, has the personality of fingernails on a chalkboard, and the vibe, look and mannerisms of a desperate inept annoying loser.
And that's why you don't feed the trolls. She has made a joke out of the real suffering of real rape victims, a joke of real atheism, and a taken the "reality show" concept to its most painful, boring conclusion where she thrives on her own humiliation. It is all so sad and pathetic. Please! Make it STOP!!!!
int womain(int argc, char **argv)
{
}
there was one coder, who really blogged, that github is racist for not allowing chinese characters in project names.
What. The. Fuck.
The Projectname is the folder name, and normal special chars like german umlauts are bad enough, but you cannot even type chinese chars without being chinese (while the german umlauts work very well with a compose key).
And on the other hand, coding in another language than english excludes many many people. So somebody who wants to do something only chinese people can use claims a system which cannot cope with chinese chars is racist ...
I believe in women.instanceOf(people), unless you want to say that only women are people.
Reading comments on Hacker News made me even less likely to ever hire a woman in IT.
Who logs in to gdm? Not I, said the duck.
Who knows. It's not an unreasonable argument that the design of programming languages might ape the power structure of the society from which it springs. If that's true, then feminist theory provides a framework to unpick those assumptions and explore new areas of design. Doesn't sound so bad, does it?
[FUCK BETA]
Why are feminists the only group of people we're not allowed to make fun of or parody? When you treat women differently and try to protect them you're saying they're not equal to men, they need protecting and, to be honest, doing the exact opposite of what I can assume your goals are.
So, women==people, but also soylent_green==people.
Therefore women==soylent_green.
---- MISSING MISCELLANEOUS DATA SEGMENT --- [sigdash] trolololol
I wish feminism was restricted to "women==people" (or "women=people"). Saying it is a "radical notion" seems rather hyperbolic. (Case in point: lookup the death rates for men, women, and children on the Titianic. Even back in the early 1900s, women and children were far more likely to live than men were because women and children were given priority access to the life boats. I guess when threatened with death, you save your "possessions" rather than people. [/sarcasm].) http://optional.is/required/2012/04/25/titanic-visualized/
My point being: this notion that popular society thinks women aren't persons is silly hyperbole.
With a highly verbal programming language like COBOL, perhaps.
With a language that consists entirely of mathematical symbols and operators like "if","else" and "while", no.
No it isn't. The vast majority of people agree with it
I'm not convinced they do.
he problem is that feminists make a number of ideological propositions that they
Which ones? The ones beliveing women==people or the fringe nutjobs?
SJW n. One who posts facts.
None - the flutter their eyelids at a passing male and get him to do it for them.
Show your working?
[FUCK BETA]
I certainly haven't figured it out. Following it out logically, people == women, but women != men, thus men != people.
It's more reasonable to say for properties Woman(x) and Person(x)
\exists(x,Woman(x)^Person(x))
Or perhaps more politically correct
Woman(x) -> Person(x)
The only people who don't think the general view is women == people are 'liberals' who like to think they're superior for repeating simplistic rhetoric. In the UK at least females passed equality decades ago. The schooling system in the west is badly gynocentric, we've thought feminist for so long the male being a person of equal worth is in doubt.
Feminism is a dogmatic ideology which believes gender to be entirely a social construct. It's as anti-science as creationism. It's an offshoot of Marxism which acts as a works union for just women. It uses propaganda based around sex and violence. etc
Women aren't inferior, but they are different to males. Evolution leaves females more likely to enjoy working with people. Males in general preferring working with systems. Differences in computer science are not based around the ideological proposition of feminism, male discrimination via patriarchy (A construct only feminists can see, control the definition of and benefit from.)
Simply: ~80% of females think computers are boring, because they're un-emotive abstract systems.
Recommend:
Original: http://vimeo.com/19707588
English: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xp0tg8_hjernevask-brainwashing-english-part-1-the-gender-equality-paradox_news
Alan Sokal wrote a parody piece that was actually accepted by the people it parodied. Their inability to distinguish it from a serious work was the whole point of the parody. Meanwhile, these idiots just came up with a deliberately ridiculous strawman.
Jezebel, the Daily Mail of Feminism and frothing Men's Right's Activists have yet to pick up on this story. Of course, we are in the last few days before Christmas so one cannot blame them but I wonder what will happen when and if they do.
Jezebel: All Boys Club programmers attack women
The Spearhead: Men not allowed to criticize feminists
---- The above post was generated by the Turing Institute. Maybe.
Yes, no true feminist would believe that.
Wait, where have I heard that before?
@timothy, I am tremendously pleased Slashdot published this. I believe @github's behavior was atrocious and @hackernews and @paulgraham's behavior even worse.
Github's removal of this repo was certainly news that Hackers should discuss.
Github has repos holding political material from all campaigns and tracts from Anonymous, yet removed this repo because of feminist outcry.
Worse Paul Graham allowed the takedown of the discussion, showing either a fear of feminist outrage, or his own basic intolerance to speech.
I remember when the Internet saw censorship as damage and routed around it, and that's the slashdot spirit.
The Hacker News / Paul Graham / Github / SJW warrior spirit to censor first, ask questions never.
As GitHub has demonstrated, if you whine and cry enough they'll remove those for you.
Women aren't inferior, but they are different to males.
Different but equal. Gotya.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
You goo girl!
You're using a comparison. I think you mean women=people instead, otherwise you've put out a comparison with no instructions on what to do with the result.
On a side note, I've often wondered if I could get a job as a professional privilege checker or patriarchy investigator. Being a P.I. would rock out hard and be cool like snakes with cigarettes. DON'T JUDGE ME!!!
*teenage angsts all over the keyboard and dies*
None, because they can't change shit!
*ducks so hard it rips open space-time*
The Spearhead: Men not allowed to criticize feminists
That seems to be what's going on here, yeah. So they would be the correct party.
I take pity on anyone who takes anything that comes out of 4chan seriously.
Remember when Github was censored in China and the Internet went crazy?
Does the EFF have a conflict of interest? They criticize private companies like Facebook often.
and of course, Godwin's Law
I think you replied to the wrong person. My comment was more of a "meta-discussion" about when it is appropriate to direct outrage at a hosting provider: When they are faced with a novel situation and react in a given way, or when they are faced with a situation similar to one they have face before but react in a different way, creating the appearance of treating one end-user differently than another.
Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
Brilliant. Deserves a reference to the United Negro College Fund parody from the TV show "In Living Color".
"Once we've identified and embraced our sickness, we'll have strength...and that's when we get dangerous." - John Waters
Can the techie community please lose the ridiculous overblown hostility to any woman who dares to suggest that there are real problems in our society stemming from a history of thousands of years of male domination of it. It actually just makes us look fucking stupid.
I would hazard to guess that most techie geeks don't dominate anybody. We tend to be put-upon. We're not the problem.
It seems like that would make feminists more attracted to geeks...but all we get is "Nerds? Ewww! Gross!"
Just sayin'.
"Once we've identified and embraced our sickness, we'll have strength...and that's when we get dangerous." - John Waters
... must surely use non-boolean logic.
Women in the UK haven't even reached pay parity for doing the same job yet, and women of child baring age are still widely discriminated against.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
(or "women=people")
Take care using the assignment operator if the left operand is defined as a constant. While some languages allow this, reassignment may result in unpredictable results.
Have gnu, will travel.
What the fuck. I can read Chinese, but my computer is generally not setup for Chinese text entry. Entering chinese characters is never-the-less easy, even if you can't read any of it:
In X11:
1. Use the mouse to drag a selection box around the text.
2. Middle-click to yank the text into the place you want.
In bash:
1. Type
2. Magicly the text appears in full.
In MS Windows:
1. Ctrl-C
2. Ctrl-V
On OSX:
1. Cmd-C
2. Cmd-V
they're usually burned BLACK!
You're probably one of those people who opposes everything President Obama does. They're racists too. We all know that everything he proposes is good, and so anybody who opposes him is a racist. Come to think of it, most fluffy popped popcorn is white, so people who like popcorn are probably white supremacists.
{end sarcasm}
Things were so much better before the left took over and made EVERYTHING political. There's no objective truth anymore, just stuff various groups find "offensive". No need to win arguments based on facts - just find a way to invalidate your opponent by tagging him/her as a racist, sexist, homophobe, patrician, etc. And when those tactics do not work, just start re-defining words. Orwell and his ilk were optimists.
Hardware can be critiqued wrt Politcal Correctness
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/master.asp
why not programming languages?!?
The only "group" that is "targeted" by this brilliant parody is: crazy feminists who run around trying to demean anybody who disagrees with them. If you do not hew to their views of things, they label you an oppressor, a misogynist, etc while demanding changes in basic things like language. The parody does not attack females, blondes, or any other group of people (particularly NOT any group defined by things beyond their control like eye color, skin color, etc). The parody makes fun of the nonsense rhetoric spouted by certain people who freely CHOOSE to believe what they believe and then freely CHOOSE to push that belief onto others by attacking and criticizing any ideas/words that they believe is contrary to their chosen beliefs.
censoring a parody like this only highlights the hypocrisy
Oh, and if some idiot wants to complain that the parody needs to be removed because it cannot actually be a functional language, congrats you have just further validated the parody (things that WORK should prevail over things that we FEEL should work). Some things in the real world simply do not function when forced through a politically-correct sieve. "Political correctness" is a disease that infects and cripples legitimate, objective activity and it deserves nothing more than parody and disdain.
but I reject the idea of the proton on idealogical grounds.
There are, and have always been, some GREAT women in this and other technical fields (Grace Hopper ring a bell?)
This "community" does not really have a gender problem. In most technical fields those with the hard, measurable, skills rise and those without sink, so the evidence is that some truly excellent women chose to enter these fields and did well without any extra "help". If fewer women prefer to enter these fields (for whatever reason - it's their choice), but society decides for various reasons to try to drive them into these fields, then society is making a decision to force women into a field against their desires because it "knows better" - an action that ought to be seen as anti-feminist.
Oh, sure, there are companies who want to make more money selling tech gear, who therefore want more women in the field as paying customers of their products. It's also true that there are businesses and governments who want more women in various fields so they can more-easily check-off various boxes on their hiring and promoting "diversity" forms. For THESE people, there IS a "gender problem" (they imagine they are not getting all the money or power they could be getting) but it's not actually a true societal "gender problem". The only evidence of a "gender problem" is if there are a bunch of young women indicating that they really want to be in these fields but are being driven out by the men/boys. News Flash: Men and women are different. We're built different, we're wired different, we see things differently, value things differently, etc. That's NOT saying either is superior, NOR is it saying that all men are better than all women at activity X NOR that all women are better than all men at activity Y. We're just different (and often in complementary ways). As a result, many fields attract more women than men and many other fields attract more men than women. Some women choose majority-male fields and some of these women out-perform the men. Some men choose majority-female fields and do quite well there. This is just reality ..... a reality that some political activists try to deny (often with political rhetoric) and it's the rhetoric of these deniers that the parody mocks
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going after this parody is an attack on men.
Sorry, but that's simply invalid. You were not attacking all men and the parody was not attacking all women. The parody was very clearly mocking the activist feminist subset of women who try to re-align society to their liking with word games, finger pointing, etc. Insane rhetoric, feigned outrage, flaming undergarments, etc are simply NO SUBSTITUTE for having a valid POINT and establishing its validity through PERFORMANCE. If you are a true feminist, try the Sally Ride model over the Gloria Steinem model. The former gets real respect by proven competence in a field, the other gets feigned respect as the result of political intimidation (at best) or well-deserved mockery (sometimes in the form of something like C+=).
As for the stupidity of some comments posted in response to the parody, THAT happens on EVERYTHING on the net and quite frankly you can never tell whether the posts are by barbarians who support something for all the wrong reasons or trolls pretending to support something for the wrong reasons as a way to make supporters of that thing look bad. NOTHING on the net should be judged by the random anonymous comments attached to it.
Comments on any article about feminism justify feminism.
The waves of lawsuits to get Bibles, religious music, and the Ten Commandments removed from all of America's schools and now to remove Nativity Scenes from parks and Crosses from military memorials which have been launched by atheists over the past 5 decades have almost universally asserted that these things had to be removed both as a "separation of church and state" matter (something not actually IN the Constitution) AND because they were offensive to atheists (because if they were not "offensive" to the atheists, there would be no "damage" to the plaintiff and, therefore, no "standing" for the filing of the lawsuit)
Your attempt to be smug and superior towards the religious fails...... because the atheists have been among the most-active in demanding that things that "offend" them be taken down and suppressed.
s/Dawson/Dawkins/. Really need to double check before I post...
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
Doesn't this imply that men != people ?
A man walks into a feminist bookshop, he looks around for a while and then walks up to the checkout.
"Can I help" asks the cashier.
"I'm looking for the humour section" he replies
"Oh" the cashier says, "we don't have one of those".
F**k GitHub.
I don't care if the project's a joke -- that's not their call.
A bunch of trolls thought GitHub could be provoked to take sides and guesswhat? they did!
Great job.
Jesux (pronounced Hay-sooks) is a new Linux distribution for Christian hackers, schools, families, and churches. There is already a core distribution being prepared, based on RedHat's distribution.
ROFL
Use it...
Denying that women's experience in life and the work place seems naive at best.
Denying them the right to discuss this difference seem mlsogynistic at least.
Regardless, there is a distinct difference in economic outcomes for the two sexes.
Whether any of this crowd will admit it or not, caregivers, who are essential to a fully functioning society, are discounted as a whole whether they care for children, old people or the sick.
Women, overwhelmingly, fill this role out of compassion for the people they love.
Their sacrifice is obvious and denying it requires the meanest dispostion and intellect, apparently plentiful here.
Ridiculous, I did not expect this from github.
U can not even make a joke in peace this days.
Ass: Linces Marques (im not a coward mfck, i dont have a account).
Wow. You sure love to make assumptions based on shit you read on the internet. Ever take time to talk to a "feminist"?
.. or so says http://blog.megan.geek.nz/how-git-shows-the-patriarchal-nature-of-the-software-industry/
*github, and caused it to become a story on slashdot! Way to sweep that one under the rug...
Sadly, a Libertarian cannot force his views on another, and freedom cannot spread as does the cancer known as religion.
This is mere socialism cloaked in democratic idealism. There is no, "we all vote on corporate behaviours", ingrained into any successfully free society. The rules are fashioned through success and bent for he needed emotions.
He is crazy if you think about it; I am not.
Different Interests, but equal worth. Not that hard to get, is it?
zero : feminism never changed anything.
Only if men != women.
From the comments, it looks like the concept of logical equivalence is indeed a hard concept to grasp.
!women || people (a logical consequence) is probably closer to the intended meaning.
But I think she's barking up the wrong tree.
The entire reason computer languages represent zeroth-order logic the way they do is intimately connected to the underlying digital electronic constructs that underlie computing technology of the last 60+ years. It's a practical / engineering-based reason that most languages spring from this.
If the idea is that we build simulation/modeling environments that approximate other types of logic and systems to create programming environments that support other paradigms that are fundamentally different, then I think we're talking about domain-specific application unless she's advocating completely revamping all digital electronics and the von-neumman architecture.
Right?
This is where the satirical reaction to her musings (and the responses it garnered) are not just spiteful, but perhaps making a point.
There were some decent replies to her musing which actually brought forward some interesting questions; but these were buried among post-modernist-centric responses with insufficient attempt to position the thinking in terms of the current computer science state-of-the-art and considering "How Did We Get Here?"
I do not think, its "easy", but of course its possible. But do you really want to work with a project, where you need to copy and paste every filename? And where the author seems to want you to use chinese names for new files? Do you even understand, what a filename means? Maybe you do, i do not. ;).
Even with the understanding, non-ascii chars in filenames are still FUBAR. And for coding the lower ascii chars ought be enought to be enough for everyone
How about the notion that feminism != gender equality?
People often seem to fall into the trap of equating the dictionary definition of feminism to the way the movement operates. Please educate yourself on the practices of the modern feminism movement.
So, unpredictable, not orthogonal, random logic, no real exception handling, the ability to screw up and keep going like nothing happened?
PHP is the feminist language, research over.
Men not allowed nationalsoz... erm.. feminism? Let a woman do it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSaT9utl4Ys