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Party
Find the biggest damned party I can around here and then raise hell.
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Re:Apple == EVIL
Here is an interesting article on the BBC about Apple fanboys.
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Re:Religions stimulate “Apple-like” rehttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13416598 Superbrands' success fuelled by sex, religion and gossip - note that sex comes before religion (pun intended).
People who don't get any, focus on the "religion" part.
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Re:Worthless degrees by equally worthless schools.
One day you'll wake up and it'll be too late to do anything about their world markets domination.
China's got a buttload of problems coming up fast, like:
- o Wage Inflation - average wages are expected to double in the next 5 years while food and housing inflation is already here that means a significant loss in global competitiveness
- o Massive Gender Imbalance - 55% male to 45% female birth ratio - that means crime, revolution or possibly war is coming, because when young men can't get laid, they take their frustration out in violence
- o Too Many Retirees - The one child policy is turning their social security system upside down - there just aren't going to be enough young workers to support all the old people in non-productive retirement
- o Massive Waste - a command economy is great when the people running the show guess right, but when they guess wrong you get massive waste like Ghost Cities and boondoggle trains.
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Re:Evils...
"...an outbreak that would start from where exactly?"
Maybe from here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2404051.stm
or here:
http://www.livescience.com/2403-climate-threat-thawing-tundra-releases-infected-corpses.html
or even here:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2003-12-26-smallpox-in-envelope_x.htm
Can we assume that the declared US and Russian stocks are the last viable samples anywhere on the planet..?
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I was appalled at them enough before but now...
Howard Stringer has the gall to say that they acted quickly.
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Re:AnalysisExcept in the USA; Where the government can authorize itself to exploit your system, further, if we think it's already been exploited -- Like say, when it's thought to be part of a Bot-Net. Oh, but that's OK; They're only executing arbitrary code on end user's machines without prior consent... so you're statement isn't exactly true, well, you see, it depends on who you are employed by.
Victimized computers that have not been disinfected using anti-virus software updates will continue to attempt to contact the Coreflood botnet servers. When this happens, we will respond by issuing a temporary stop command to the virus
So -- The FBI can use the bot-net controls, but if I, a security researcher, did that same very thing for the exact same very reason it would be very very illegal -- additionally, if I report the bot-net to the proper authorities I get investigated.
OTOH, I can give you my password and let you show me how to fix my computer, then sue you for remotely accessing my computer without my consent. We'll have to fight it out in court to determine what actually happened. Meanwhile, cops may confiscate any hardware you may have, and archive the data that's on it as well.
Not saying that this is what happened in TFA, just that "permission" better be via notarized written consent, or else... That said: "Hey, can you fix my computer?" Sure! "Let's go to the notary-public, and get permission from the government to ensure no-one get's sued, OK?" Nah, I'll pass -- take it to a government authorized repair shop they have all the forms there, and report your possibly illegal data to the proper authorities (Let's hope the malware didn't download child porn, distribute it for a while, then delete itself leaving behind the CP).
Also: Didn't the BBC just outright buy a bot-net, and use people's computers illegally (sans permission) to send out spam to themselves? Yep.
Please, don't apply your uninformed simple legal opinions to the world -- You clearly fail to consider the many occurrences like the above hypocrisies. Either it's illegal or it's not -- to me it looks like the question is still unanswered, and the punishment varies widely by how much the government likes you.
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Re:American...
Hmm. Maybe its a made up dish for us locals or specific to the place I go.
Now you mention it, it sounds a bit like it's been made up to sound extra British.
Im not sure why you think Shepherds pie is boring, its a delicious hearty meal for me.
I'm probably being a bit harsh. This recipe looks OK, but when I think of a lot of traditional British recipes I remember my parents' cooking, which in this case would be that recipe but without any of the herbs and spices (through being "too busy" to include them, usually).
BBC Good Food "British" if you're interested (BBC Good Food Magazine is generally very good for recipes).
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Re:The Cost of US Security
You never realize what a great country we live in until you've gone to another country and had the ability to be able to make a an unbiased comparison. Not what you read or hear on the news, but determine on your own, just how valuable what we do here in America.
What is your great country going to do after 2011-08-02 then:
This delays any breaching of the limit to 2 August. Congress is currently negotiating an increase to the limit, without which the US risks defaulting on its debt.
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How can the Iraq war be blamed on bin Laden?
And let's look at Afghanistan a bit closer:
According to a 2002 NBC news report: "President Bush was expected to sign detailed plans for a worldwide war against al-Qaida two days before Sept. 11 but did not have the chance before the terrorist attacks in New York and Washington, U.S. and foreign sources told NBC News." This would have been on 09/09/01
This is backed by a Sept 2001 BBC News report which states: "Niaz Naik, a former Pakistani Foreign Secretary, was told by senior American officials in mid-July that military action against Afghanistan would go ahead by the middle of October....And he said it was doubtful that Washington would drop its plan even if Bin Laden were to be surrendered immediately by the Taleban."
Read that last sentence again.
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Re:Oh?
Or, you know, Dick Cheney's commission of what we considered war crimes when the Germans and Japanese did it in the 1940's. It's an open-and-shut case: We have video footage and transcripts of him telling the world all about the crimes he committed on national television.
Don't forget, though, we need to Look forward, not backward. And they hate us for our freedoms. It has nothing to do with committing crimes with impunity, killing children and civilians, or supporting dictators in their country.
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Re:I have only one question
They have missiles thought to be capable of hitting in South Korea and Japan. Hitting South Korea is a no-brainer, they have SCUD type missles with a 300+ mile range that can pretty much cover it. Japan is only ~650 miles away, and they have tested a satellite launching rocket that went far past that distance.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8134388.stm
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/06/world/asia/06korea.html
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Re:Waste, Again
Second, the proposal in question would require a trivial amount of money; factcheck.org and polifact.com, for example, already do this kind of work. I wonder what their budgets are--probably 6 or 7 figures? A government with a 13-figure budget could do contribute significantly to that kind of work with money that would amount to a rounding error. BBC news appears to be around 8 figures, for a complete news organization with international coverage.
Third, this hardly strikes me as a "waste". If we could better educate our voters with such a tiny fraction of our budget, that sounds like spending that could pay for itself.
No it wouldn't be a waste. For a mere 8 figures, we could put whichever political party is in power in control of what is considered the "truth". And they would be "independant", just like NPR is "independant".
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Re:Waste, Again
BBC news appears to be around 8 figures, for a complete news organization with international coverage.
Eh, correcting myself: I suspect I'm just misunderstanding how they split up the spending categories, billions sounds like a more likely budget. Maybe somebody else can figure that out....
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Re:Waste, Again
Quite apart from all the other good reasons why this is a BAD idea, it is another way to wase money a broke country dosn't have.
First, the US is very far from broke. We have a huge national income, and (relative to our peers) choose to spend relatively little of it on taxes. We could in theory go "broke" if we fail to raise revenues to cover growing health care costs and/or cut benefits to our aging population. Nobody (least of all the people putting their money where there mouths are and buying US debt) seems to think it's likely that we'll do neither, and thus default.
Second, the proposal in question would require a trivial amount of money; factcheck.org and polifact.com, for example, already do this kind of work. I wonder what their budgets are--probably 6 or 7 figures? A government with a 13-figure budget could do contribute significantly to that kind of work with money that would amount to a rounding error. BBC news appears to be around 8 figures, for a complete news organization with international coverage.
Third, this hardly strikes me as a "waste". If we could better educate our voters with such a tiny fraction of our budget, that sounds like spending that could pay for itself.
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Re:Tabloid trash
A currency doesn't have to be legal tender to be of value, it only needs to be accepted. In Scotland, there are no legal tender banknotes, but you'll see notes issued by three different commercial banks, plus Bank of England notes, in circulation and used in the same way as any other country's currency.
You do get the odd crackpot scheme, such as the Hawick Pound, to introduce local currencies in order to boost tourism, but they never meet with much acceptance.
Legal tender very specifically relates to the paying-off of an existing debt, and doesn't come into play in most currency transactions.
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Re:powers of ten
Much better article summarising this for the lay person (ie begins by explaining what memresitors are).
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Re:I have only one question
There can be no doubt, you all are winning the propaganda war, but as the Goldman Sachs execs have shown, lying, even under oath to congress, comes pretty easy to some folks. What applies more to the war in Afghanistan is the opium trade. The taliban was wiping it out.. OBL was the designated distraction...
Stay faithful.. and bottoms up
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And it gets worse for square enix.
Apparently they got hacked too.
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Re:Meanwhile in line...
Have you seen a lot of white Christian suicide bombers and terrorists lately?
Lately? You mean this week? Yes.
Even the IRA put its C-4 away a long time ago.
That may be so, but the sectarian hatred and violence lives on. It's not even for a cause any more, just people who despise each other because of what football teams they support.
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Another article
BBC reported on this as well: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-13372982
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Re:Not Centre for Computing History
To see who the real people are who should be credited with this project, see the official BBC Acknowledgements page. You will see from the official Acknowledgements on the BBC site http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/domesday/story that there is no mention of the Centre for Computing History. BBC Employees part of George Auckland's Innovations Team deserve the credit for the work done here.
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Immigrants
Hmm... looks like London was already heavily colonized by Muslims even back in 1986... and I bet none of the people at the BBC who compiled this stuff reported the "beating with a bamboo stick" for fear of being labelled 'racist' either.
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Re:You can never rule out risks completely
Remember, the tsunami wasn't an instant affair- it hit an hour after the quake. The plant ran perfectly up until the tsunami washed away the fuel for the diesel gens.
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Re:You can never rule out risks completely
also, I was listening to a radio programme about Chernobyl. The casualty rate there, apart from the crews who were sent in to the burning building, is 6.
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Re:stupid
I think you've got it. There have been suggestions that the US had no court anywhere that ObL could have been tried. The obvious place is the ICJ/World Court in the Hague.
The US has a perfectly adequate legal system to handle the likes of Bin Laden.... right here. fact sheet
But it's not clear what the charges might have been. It's likely that the US "had nothing on the guy" for the WTC attack, other than his publicly praising the people who did it, and that's not exactly a criminal act
US GRAND JURY INDICTMENT AGAINST USAMA BIN LADEN
Also, Bin Laden admitted or demonstrated his association with the 9/11 attacks on multiple occasions.
Bin Laden claims responsibility for 9/11
Video Shows Bin Laden, 9/11 Hijackers
Bin Laden '9/11 video' broadcastNo doubt there is plenty of other material evidence linking him to other crimes under either the Law of War or US criminal law.
The US has been openly and loudly calling this "justice". This isn't being missed by people with similar desires in the rest of the world. Since the US government has effectively announced that killing someone without any sort of trial is "justice", we can expect that many others in the world are planning to bring the US to "justice" in a similar fashion.
You've got this wrong on two points. First, I very much doubt that any group of would-be terrorists is just waiting for the US to "bend the rules" so that they feel justified in attacking. Second, the US is at war with Al Qaeda under the authority of the Congressional Authorization for Use of Military Force passed after 9/11, so raids to capture or kill its members is completely legitimate. It is also quite fair seeing as Bin Laden declared war on the US in the 1990s.
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Re:A difficult trend to grasp.
His house isn't that small, you're just spoiled. In many countries people are used to that space. My house is only about 50% bigger than his and we're three adults and a 13 year old living here.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46216000/gif/_46216562_houses_466_4.gif
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Re:BBC America showing American stuff = suck
"I want interesting British programming that I might not have seen otherwise."
Well, then we'd actually have to make some, which seems to be too much trouble these days. Dr Who is still OK, but here's the programme they run immediately before it in the UK:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b010w1y2
'Dont Scare the Hare - Jason Bradbury presents an innovative family game show packed with humour and jeopardy, and featuring a 4-foot animatronic robot hare...Episode 4/9. Two teams of contestants battle angry frogs and laser-beamed carrots to win 15,000 pounds.'
It's probably 'interesting' after serious LSD intake, but then so is watching the clothes go round in the Economy Wash cycle on laundry day.
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Done deal
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Re:US freight rail is doing very well
Europe still has a lot of little 2-axle freight cars.
I'm sure they exist and are used sometimes, but I think they're rare, at least in Western Europe. Everything I see go past my house has four axles, although most of the freight is probably on its way to France (which requires it to go on a high-speed line, so possibly only newer wagons are certified for this?)
Mixing high speed passenger trains and freight on the same track cuts severely into freight capacity. Each passenger train uses up the track time of six freights.
High speed passenger trains need dedicated lines, and it's rare for these to be used by freight (there are exceptions, like the Channel Tunnel).
But, it's correct that capacity is cut. Round here many lines are at maximum capacity with passenger trains for part of the day. But you can run a freight train from one end of this country to the other overnight (including the slow, remote bits), which is quite different to the US.
The highest "normal speed" passenger trains in Britain run at 120-140mph (or something like that), and even local trains reach 80-100mph on many lines. Many freight trains run pretty fast (60mph), some run very fast -- here is a parcels company using 110mph freight trains. Apparently sometimes they run too fast (and I see some two-axle coal wagons there...)
"New coal wagons are designed for operation at 75mph" (cite
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Re:Floor plans...
Actually, Osama never took credit for those deaths, which is why he wasn't formally wanted by FBI for the 9/11 bombings (FBI most wanted [fbi.gov]). The video which was shown on television shortly after the bombings, where he allegedly took the blame, was badly translated.
Personally, I'm not entirely sure if Osama had his hand in the 9/11 bombings, or if other people did it inspired by him
Actually, Bin Laden did take responsibility for the 9/11 attacks, on more than one occasion. Here is one:
Bin Laden claims responsibility for 9/11Here are some videos of him with some of the 9/11 attackers:
Video Shows Bin Laden, 9/11 Hijackers
Bin Laden '9/11 video' broadcastAnd maybe you should try another page:
The link you provide is apparently based solely on the federal indictments - that is, a matter of criminal law. More details here.
After the mass attacks of 9/11, Congress responded with the Authorization for Use of Military Force, and Al Qaeda became a military problem. I don't know that the FBI continually updates the crimes section on the most wanted list.
Bin Laden's demands? Americans must convert to Islam, discard the Constitution, and govern with Sharia law, or Al Qaeda will keep attacking the US. Bin Laden's offier - convert or die. Some choice, eh?
For those in need: Debunking the 9/11 Myths: Special Report
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Re:Really?
I think it varies a lot by country as well as by medical system. You can have 'free' healthcare in two countries that provides a very different style of care - this is a good example of the phenomenon.
Personally, I'll avoid seeing a doctor unless absolutely necessary simply because it's not an especially pleasant experience. I can't understand why anyone would want to sit in a waiting room with a bunch of sick people, only to then get poked and prodded at by a stranger, unless they had a problem that really required it.
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Re:Anybody believe this?
No problem.. Hugo 'Boss' Chavez's got it covered
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Re:Yes it was modifed
Much like China's current stealth plane uses technology copied form a US stealth aircraft.
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Voting Systems - Even as we speak....
The UK is holding a referendum on wether to ditch "First past the post" in favour of AV, a multiple preference system with a target voter percentage ( Obligatory BBC explaination of the system ). As counting of the referendum votes will only be starting as I write, I can't say how things will pan out. However indications are that AV will be rejected, mainly on the grounds that a manipulation of "second, and possibly third thoughts" denies a not inconsiderable body of voters who voted for the initially leading candidate a voice. Its a mechanical coilition system with unintended consequences.
Of course, true proportional representation destroys local representation entirely and reduces candidate selection to unaccountable nominees to a regional list. It may be more efficient, but it also increases the separation of people and politicians.
At least with FPP, you get to see your local representative when they need to be elected again!
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Re:What?
Ok, I'll bite... Mountain Dew increases blood pressure via caffeine...
It ain't just the caffeine
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-12597970
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Re:NASA and the USA
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Re:Current theory says the universe expands foreve
http://www.npl.washington.edu/AV/altvw94.html -- reference (not the one I was looking for, but it is mentioned)
Some other ideas about different boundary conditions at t=0 may be found at these pages:
http://www.npl.washington.edu/npl/int_rep/dtime/node4.html [conventional view]
http://www.space.com/4019-glimpse-time-big-bang.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7440217.stm
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Re:Yeah right
Oh come on, we couldn't help but to make it into a PR farce from the start for some reason... How many people even realize the preparations were well under way by the time "the reasons" happened (and nvm slight continuity problems and how the ultimatum was a farce, also how getting in the way of some investigations possibly made those events easier)
Will remain so; despite the supposed "war of words" Pakistan (one of very few of our "allies" to quickly recognize Taliban gov; others being Kuwait and Saudis, IIRC) is safe I'm sure, ISI won't be labelled as a terrorist organisation... Pakistani ISI which fought alongside the Taliban (the largest support going towards the only mujahidin faction eager to fight not only against the Soviets) vs. the Northern Alliance, greatly contributing to them being unable to hold Afghanistan (nvm how, immediately after the "causes", "rumors" began that Iraq could have played a role; or how opium production skyrocketed after the intervention (is it already a pattern? BTW "free market"); how the compromised ISI was again, also, quick to helpfully point out their enemies, for us to deal with; how ideology is branded as an "organization", which can be obviously fought like any organization)
Admittedly such subtleties just confuse people (and the farce of October surprise in 2004 was hilarious, with OBL tape clearly designed to make reelection easier :) ...well, still not on the level of Reagan team hampering Iranian hostage release efforts), what we got is so much more palatable. Just social evolution, not the "best" approaches surviving but the fittest ones... as long as it works (how many people now realize that bomber gap and missile gap were a fiction comparable to mine shaft gap? How many even heard about Team B?)
But don't paint it so into "us" vs. "them" (locally) fashion. Systems of governance are ultimately basically a reflection of society; from where do people forming them come from? It's hard to find somebody who would actually abstain from taking a piece of the cake for themselves, given the chance (not the same as just declaring they wouldn't do it; then you have virtually whole families swearing for one military member amongst them - always somebody honourable and decent; or families of some engineer or blue-collar worker, normally bitching about gov waste, always praising the work of their family member - especially when it's publicly funded, when the product provided is obviously essential and the price fair) -
Re:Yeah right
Oh come on, we couldn't help but to make it into a PR farce from the start for some reason... How many people even realize the preparations were well under way by the time "the reasons" happened (and nvm slight continuity problems and how the ultimatum was a farce, also how getting in the way of some investigations possibly made those events easier)
Will remain so; despite the supposed "war of words" Pakistan (one of very few of our "allies" to quickly recognize Taliban gov; others being Kuwait and Saudis, IIRC) is safe I'm sure, ISI won't be labelled as a terrorist organisation... Pakistani ISI which fought alongside the Taliban (the largest support going towards the only mujahidin faction eager to fight not only against the Soviets) vs. the Northern Alliance, greatly contributing to them being unable to hold Afghanistan (nvm how, immediately after the "causes", "rumors" began that Iraq could have played a role; or how opium production skyrocketed after the intervention (is it already a pattern? BTW "free market"); how the compromised ISI was again, also, quick to helpfully point out their enemies, for us to deal with; how ideology is branded as an "organization", which can be obviously fought like any organization)
Admittedly such subtleties just confuse people (and the farce of October surprise in 2004 was hilarious, with OBL tape clearly designed to make reelection easier :) ...well, still not on the level of Reagan team hampering Iranian hostage release efforts), what we got is so much more palatable. Just social evolution, not the "best" approaches surviving but the fittest ones... as long as it works (how many people now realize that bomber gap and missile gap were a fiction comparable to mine shaft gap? How many even heard about Team B?)
But don't paint it so into "us" vs. "them" (locally) fashion. Systems of governance are ultimately basically a reflection of society; from where do people forming them come from? It's hard to find somebody who would actually abstain from taking a piece of the cake for themselves, given the chance (not the same as just declaring they wouldn't do it; then you have virtually whole families swearing for one military member amongst them - always somebody honourable and decent; or families of some engineer or blue-collar worker, normally bitching about gov waste, always praising the work of their family member - especially when it's publicly funded, when the product provided is obviously essential and the price fair) -
Re:kind of like the police
here are a couple of things for you to take a gander at:
(This is the for the relation between the more somatic (external) and internal 'self' and nervous systems. and indeed the truth (or lack their of) in Buddhist teaching)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12661646http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-28/broken-heart-burns-like-hot-coffee-study-of-ex-lovers-shows.html (check out the actual science not the 'news' write up crap about 'ex-lovers')
any kind of rejection, for instance the rejection of your ideas by yourself or someone else or science. again the different nervious systems and regions in play.
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Re:And with all that attention...
Why would you say that? That particular bit of trivia has been mentioned in a few articles. For example,
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13274176
(the top story on bbcnews) has the factoid in a sidebar, while
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/05/02/following-the-reaction-to-bin-ladens-death/includes a poem by James Abbot himself about the town he founded:
Oh! Abbottabad we are leaving you now
To your natural beauty do I bow
Perhaps your winds will never reach my ears
My gift for you is sad tears
I bid you farewell with a heavy heart
Never from my mind will your memories thwart.I'm more curious about what your point is; first of all, James Abbot wasn't an overlord, just an officer (judging by his bio on wiki, anyway). Even if he was, what's the point? I don't see how this is interesting beyond its status as a coincidence. It's certainly not irony.
Bah, humbug.
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MSM alternate reality
Pointing out Dan Rather is all too easy when the left gets upset at the Internets for failing to fall in line. A more recent (yesterday) example; we've been hearing for weeks about the 'challenge' to conservatives in Canada. The BBC says the race has tightened and Canadian voters will throw the conservative bums out!
Reality: Canada's Conservatives score massive election win. The media had gotten so carried away that "the scale of victory came as a surprise."
Wisconsin voters hate the new Governor and his anti-union crimes. The media has the polls to prove it! That's why incumbent judge Prosser will get voted out. Except he didn't.
Lets not forget NPR execs schlepping around with purported Muslim Brotherhood types, spouting off stereotypical nonsense right out of the moonbat echo chamber. These are the numpties running the media. Mustn't question their credibility...you stupid knuckle dragger.
The MSM is spin. Mostly statist left wing spin, with some equally heinous counter spin from the right (Fox et al.) That the non-existent credibility of our media doesn't somehow instantly dispel all "birther" conspiracy is a surprise to fools alone.
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MSM alternate reality
Pointing out Dan Rather is all too easy when the left gets upset at the Internets for failing to fall in line. A more recent (yesterday) example; we've been hearing for weeks about the 'challenge' to conservatives in Canada. The BBC says the race has tightened and Canadian voters will throw the conservative bums out!
Reality: Canada's Conservatives score massive election win. The media had gotten so carried away that "the scale of victory came as a surprise."
Wisconsin voters hate the new Governor and his anti-union crimes. The media has the polls to prove it! That's why incumbent judge Prosser will get voted out. Except he didn't.
Lets not forget NPR execs schlepping around with purported Muslim Brotherhood types, spouting off stereotypical nonsense right out of the moonbat echo chamber. These are the numpties running the media. Mustn't question their credibility...you stupid knuckle dragger.
The MSM is spin. Mostly statist left wing spin, with some equally heinous counter spin from the right (Fox et al.) That the non-existent credibility of our media doesn't somehow instantly dispel all "birther" conspiracy is a surprise to fools alone.
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Re:The world keeps turning
These days it's pretty easy to find entire online communities that agree with you that Osama Bin Laden was really a CIA operative
That's not so much a theory as there is a significant amount of credible evidence supporting it. You have heard of the Afghan Mujahideen and the US Government's support of it, right? And bin Laden's leadership in that organization? Check out "Ghost Wars" by Steve Coll. Supposedly Obama himself read the book.
The connection didn't start in the US. The Russian publication Demokratizatsiya was the first to make the claim, and here is a BBC article from 2004 mentioning it as well.
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Re:Well
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Re:The news establishment do not deserve our trust
When you know almost everybody is lying to you, its only human to be drawn to news you think sounds most plausible.
There is such a thing as critical thinking. When the Bush administration was ramping up for the war in Iraq, it was easy enough to read The Jordan Times and see that it was obviously false that Sadam Hussein, a secular Sunni Muslim, would provide material support for Al Queda, a radicalized group Shiite Muslims. Jordan are allies of the US, but they won't hesitate to point out mistaken logic or facts when they see them. Let me ask, if interested in the Royal Wedding, does it make sense to look at NBC, or maybe the BBC coverage?
There is a such thing as a search for the real truth, the correct route is typically the closest to the source of the news. If you want news that's the most plausible, find news that's the closest to the source. If I want to know about Muslim's attitudes about events in the Middle East, I'm not going to read Western Media.
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Re:Again?
There was a case a while back where a police officer was prosecuted, and subsequently cleared, of driving at 159 mph on a deserted motorway. If I remember correctly, his claim was that his high-speed pursuit training meant that what he was doing wasn't dangerous.
My question at the time was, why isn't this training available to the ordinary motorist?
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Re:Call me Crazy...
This tops Radovan Karadzic's disguise by a long shot.
In audacity, perhaps, but not in style.
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Re:I can't find it
I don't know who those "experts" are, but all the links that have been moderated up so far are wrong. That building complex is on the opposite side of Abbottabad from the area reported in the news, and the satellite picture looks nothing like the photos of the Bin Laden's building from the ground.
It's here in Bilal Town, between Abbottabad and the Pakistan Military Academy on the northeast side of the city according to the BBC.