Domain: blu-ray.com
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Re:Uh-huh.
Apparently the market LOVES bad spelling. If you check out http://www.blu-ray.com/ you can actually find a spot where they spell "Blu-ray" as "Blue-ray" (check under the headline titled "Jan 18, 2005 - Sonopress Joins Blu-ray Disc Association"). I think they're undecided on the name...
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Re:HD-DVD is retardedI already covered the capacity argument here. As far as the video CODEC's go, check out this from the FAQ at www.blu-ray.com--
The Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA) is still in the process of finalizing the BD-ROM specification, but they have stated that MPEG-4 AVC High Profile (previously called FRExt) and Microsoft's VC-1 video codec (the proposed SMPTE standard based on WMV9) will be mandatory. They will also include MPEG-2 support for playback of HDTV recordings and DVDs. Please note that this simply means that all Blu-ray players and recorders will have to support playback of these video codecs, it will still be up to the movie studios to decide which video codec(s) they use for their releases. The BDA expects the BD-ROM specification to be finished some time in the beginning of 2005.
Also of interest is the H.264 article on Wikipedia, specifically the Applications section--
Both of the major candidate next-generation DVD rival formats planned for product deployment in late 2005 include the H.264/AVC High Profile as a mandatory player feature -- specifically:
All things being equal again, that leaves capacity as the only thing seperating the two formats as far as I can tell.
- The HD-DVD format of the DVD Forum
- The Blu-ray Disc format of the Blu-Ray Disc Association (BDA)
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Re:HD-DVD is retardedI already covered the capacity argument here. As far as the video CODEC's go, check out this from the FAQ at www.blu-ray.com--
The Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA) is still in the process of finalizing the BD-ROM specification, but they have stated that MPEG-4 AVC High Profile (previously called FRExt) and Microsoft's VC-1 video codec (the proposed SMPTE standard based on WMV9) will be mandatory. They will also include MPEG-2 support for playback of HDTV recordings and DVDs. Please note that this simply means that all Blu-ray players and recorders will have to support playback of these video codecs, it will still be up to the movie studios to decide which video codec(s) they use for their releases. The BDA expects the BD-ROM specification to be finished some time in the beginning of 2005.
Also of interest is the H.264 article on Wikipedia, specifically the Applications section--
Both of the major candidate next-generation DVD rival formats planned for product deployment in late 2005 include the H.264/AVC High Profile as a mandatory player feature -- specifically:
All things being equal again, that leaves capacity as the only thing seperating the two formats as far as I can tell.
- The HD-DVD format of the DVD Forum
- The Blu-ray Disc format of the Blu-Ray Disc Association (BDA)
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Re:Effect on Games
Standard Resolution right now is 640x480. That comes out to 307,200 pixels. True High definition is 1920x1080 which is 2,073,600 pixels. That's 6.75 times more pixels. Thus if you use the same compression methods it's not far-fetched to assume that the compressed size is also 6.75 times the size of standard res compressed. A DVD holds at max a little over 9 GB. If you use it all (and it's safe to say that many now do) then to go to true High Definition you need over 60 GB of storage, more than twice what HD-DVD can hold. You might point out that blu-ray can't even hold that much. Yes it can. TDK has developed a 100 GB version (http://www.blu-ray.com/) and I've heard a 200 GB version is in the works (http://addict3d.org/index.php?page=viewarticle&t
y pe=news&ID=3062). HD-DVD should die. It's a lame excuse for an upgrade. -
Blu-Ray disc's may not be so bad now
according to blu-ray.com http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/#1.10 the disc's now have a new coating to make them harder. But again if you really want to protect them, cartridges would be the way to go.
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Re:and everyone is still using floppies : )Your newscientist.com link doesn't work for me (Slashdotted?), so here's some alternate links for information on the hard-coating technology for Blu-ray media (it's called "Durabis"):
Blu-ray FAQ 1.10
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Re:Blu-Ray wins!
You are incorrect. According to the Blu-Ray group itself the data rate of HD-DVD is 36.5 Mbps (http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/ bottom of page).
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Re:Higher unit cost for Blu-RayBlu-Ray seems to have more support from the companies that matter right now: Sony is using Blu-Ray in the next Playstation, and blu-ray.com lists many the companies in the Blu-Ray Consortium as "Apple, Dell, Hitachi, HP, JVC, LG, Mitsubishi, Panasonic, Pioneer, Philips, Samsung, Sharp, Sony, TDK and Thomson", which points to Blu-Ray's support in the PC industry. And with Sony's support in the gaming industry, and Dell, HP, Sony, Apple and others' support in the PC industry, I think people will be more likely to have a BD-ROM(Blu-Ray) in their house.
Also, contrary to what you may have heard, Blu-Ray discs will not require a cartridge. Blu-Ray discs should be more scratch-resistant than even current CDs and DVDs.
And about capacity: HD-DVD can only hold 30GB(15GB per layer), but Blu-Ray can hold 54GB(27GB per layer). In the future, Blu-Ray discs could even hold up to 200GB.
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Re:Higher unit cost for Blu-RayBlu-Ray seems to have more support from the companies that matter right now: Sony is using Blu-Ray in the next Playstation, and blu-ray.com lists many the companies in the Blu-Ray Consortium as "Apple, Dell, Hitachi, HP, JVC, LG, Mitsubishi, Panasonic, Pioneer, Philips, Samsung, Sharp, Sony, TDK and Thomson", which points to Blu-Ray's support in the PC industry. And with Sony's support in the gaming industry, and Dell, HP, Sony, Apple and others' support in the PC industry, I think people will be more likely to have a BD-ROM(Blu-Ray) in their house.
Also, contrary to what you may have heard, Blu-Ray discs will not require a cartridge. Blu-Ray discs should be more scratch-resistant than even current CDs and DVDs.
And about capacity: HD-DVD can only hold 30GB(15GB per layer), but Blu-Ray can hold 54GB(27GB per layer). In the future, Blu-Ray discs could even hold up to 200GB.
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Re:Higher unit cost for Blu-RayBlu-Ray seems to have more support from the companies that matter right now: Sony is using Blu-Ray in the next Playstation, and blu-ray.com lists many the companies in the Blu-Ray Consortium as "Apple, Dell, Hitachi, HP, JVC, LG, Mitsubishi, Panasonic, Pioneer, Philips, Samsung, Sharp, Sony, TDK and Thomson", which points to Blu-Ray's support in the PC industry. And with Sony's support in the gaming industry, and Dell, HP, Sony, Apple and others' support in the PC industry, I think people will be more likely to have a BD-ROM(Blu-Ray) in their house.
Also, contrary to what you may have heard, Blu-Ray discs will not require a cartridge. Blu-Ray discs should be more scratch-resistant than even current CDs and DVDs.
And about capacity: HD-DVD can only hold 30GB(15GB per layer), but Blu-Ray can hold 54GB(27GB per layer). In the future, Blu-Ray discs could even hold up to 200GB.
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Re:Transfer rate in article is wrong.
Wrong. You're looking at the transfer speed for 1x Blu Ray _writing_, not reading.
Try here:
http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/#2.3
grib.
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Transfer rate in article is wrong.
The transfer rate for blu-ray is, accoriding to their FAQ, 36 Mb/s, not 36MB/s. Which means that 1x blu-ray (4.5MB/s) is considerably slower than today's 16x DVD drives, which are ~21MB/s.
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This guy is an idiot.Will broadband kill off the DVD?
Short answer: No.
The DVD format will be nothing more than a flash in the pan, according to the chief executive of Alcatel.
Come on people. This article is just plain stupid. I can see the DVD being upgraded, for more storage capacity (see blue-ray), I can see the DVD fading away gradually (like VHS); but saying that Joe Sixpack will suddenly stop buying DVDs and use, say a broadband connected Tivo-like-device, is ludicrous. Technology lingers. That's why Microsoft has to build in special modes in their OS to run older programs. People still use legacy technology! Hell, I still have a tape player in my car. :-)
But I'm getting ahead of myself. The article doesn't talk about Tivos, Internet TV streams, or some new emerging technology. In fact, it doesn't really mention anything!
I'm not sure how articles like this end up on slashdot. I should write an article: New Power Source will replace Gasoline!
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Then get VC-1 the f*k out of HD DVD and BD-ROMDon't like a single company pushing its expensive pay-per-use formats and codecs into your living room TV or stereo?
Then get VC-1 the heck out of the HD DVD and BD-ROM standards. And push now for getting open codecs into standards for storage and broadcast. Also push radio and television stations to offer streaming content in an open format. BBC, NPR, DR1, YLE, SR, etc. all would be candidates.
Remember also that audio codecs are separate from video codecs. The audio codecs for BD-ROM have not been chosen
... yet. Ogg Vorbis would benefit all producers and consumers, except the one we won't mention. Think lower manufacturing costs because Vorbis is royalty-free. Think greater flexibility and speed of development because of the flexible license Vorbis uses. -
Re:A lot more under the hood....
Blu-ray, also known as Blu-ray Disc (BD) is the name of a next-generation optical disc format jointly developed by the Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA), a group of leading consumer electronics and PC companies (including Dell, Hitachi, HP, JVC, LG, Mitsubishi, Panasonic, Pioneer, Philips, Samsung, Sharp, Sony, TDK and Thomson). The format was developed to enable recording, rewriting and playback of high-definition video (HD), as well as storing large amounts of data. A single-layer Blu-ray Disc can hold 25GB, which can be used to record over 2 hours of HDTV or more than 13 hours of standard-definition TV. There are also dual-layer versions of the discs that can hold 50GB.
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Submarine patentsSubmarine patents and other proprietary gimmicks, are bad.
A current example would be packing VC-1 into both Blu-ray and HD DVD.
Though software patents are currently only a problem in the U.S., I'd still say that they threat of stealth patents would be the worst bug. Proprietary material shouldn't get through the standards process.
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Re:Why Blu Ray Will Win
Since HD-DVD uses a red laser,
The current HD-DVD standard uses the same blue frequency laser as Blu-Ray. a source There are others, google with keywords: HD-DVD laser color spits out a lot of them. -
Re:Larger Capacities but...
The BD-ROM version 1 format is expected to include MPEG-4 AVC and VC-1 support.. Also stated on blu-ray.com. It's also on Wikipedia's entry.
The news is over a month old, and reasonably well circulated. Not sure why it keeps being overlooked...
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Re:Larger Capacities but...
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Them and who else?
Take a look at the Blu-Ray website. I think the only company that's missing in the industry partner list is Toshiba. Plus after reading some documentation internal to my company regarding manufacturing costs of Blu-Ray discs they are cheaper to make than HD-DVD's in both cost per disc and cost per gigabyte.
In the past we've seen products like the Beta format for example that have a small industry following just go by the wayside. It seems such that HD-DVD is progressing along the same path. Time will tell I guess.
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Re:Spelling
Source 1.2 Why the name Blu-ray?
The name Blu-ray is derived from the underlying technology, which utilizes a blue-violet laser to read and write data. The name is a combination of "Blue" and optical ray "Ray". According to the Blu-ray Disc Association, the spelling of "Blu-ray" is not a mistake. The character "e" is intentionally left out because a daily-used term can't be registered as a trademark. -
hey, Blu-ray is Sony's format!!!hold on, something seems to be wrong here. Check this out. Blu-ray is to be used by Sony, Philips, Pioneer and others, while NEC/Toshiba are planning to use HD DVD, aren't they? You won't find NEC and Toshiba's name on Blu-Ray's official site, as far as I can see.
And to clarify further, in either case scenario, MS will win because both Next-gen DVD formats will most likely use MS codec.
At this point, I think HD DVD (by NEC/Toshiba) is a history. And I wouldn't be surprised even if Sony has a second thought on the codec they will use for distribution. I want to see Sony leaving MS or coming up with something other than MS codec.
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How is this news?I hate these news articles...they make it look like Microsoft's codec is the only one that will work, when it's just one of several.
HD DVD supports MPEG-2, H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, and Microsoft VC-9.
Blu-Ray Disc (BD) already supported MPEG-2 and H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, and now just added Microsoft VC-9. So what?
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Re:Easy
Um... the next format IS about 50 GiB per disc, check out Blu-ray, they already have recorders in Japan so I expect them to be available to the rest of the world pretty soon.
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The Blu-Ray Spec (Cartridges and Transfer Rates)Two items of note...
(1) Cartridges: Thankfully (or not, depending on how you feel about it) they dropped the cartridge requirement from the spec. Quoth the Blu-Ray FAQ #1.9:
"No, with the added support for "no-cartridge" usage to the Blu-ray Disc specification it currently looks like the cartridge will be optional, but we still haven't heard of any definitive decision about this issue. There is research going on to hard-coat the surface to protect the discs from dust and fingerprints without requiring a cartridge, which looks very promising. By making the cartridge optional manufacturers will be able to downsize drives for PC usage and lower their media production costs."
(2) Transfer Rates: I had no idea transfer rates were so much higher with Blu-Ray. It's 36 Mbps for Blu-Ray versus 11.08 for DVD. And if you were wondering, yes HD-DVD transfers at 36 Mbps as well.Sony has a great history of wide acceptance for their formats, so I'll be watching this one closely.
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Re:At what cost? $$I hear ya...but..
Will Blu-ray Discs require a cartridge?
No, with the added support for "no-cartridge" usage to the Blu-ray Disc specification it currently looks like the cartridge will be optional, but we still haven't heard of any definitive decision about this issue. There is research going on to hard-coat the surface to protect the discs from dust and fingerprints without requiring a cartridge, which looks very promising. By making the cartridge optional manufacturers will be able to downsize drives for PC usage and lower their media production costs.
Emphasis mine above...From their FAQ, laso if you look at some of the other media images there, they all don't have the cartridge shell on them.
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Re:specs
The official Blu-Ray FAQ informs us that:
"According to the Blu-ray Disc v1.0 specification, 1x speed will require a 36Mbps data transfer rate, which means it will take about 1 hour and 40 minutes to record 27GB. The Blu-ray Disc Association are currently working on the v2.0 specification, which will support 2x speed to cut the time it takes to copy content from one disc to another in half. In the future, the data transfer rate is expected to be raised to 8x or more."
1x DVD speed is around 10Mbps. This is, therefore, 3.6 times faster. Assuming game content of the same size, it should cut load times substantially, assuming that games in both formats are designed such that they limit seek time.
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Re:At what cost? $$
What scratches?
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Re:At what cost? $$
With this?
Of course, given you won't be scratching those anytime soon, 'backing up' becomes less of an issue, so much as 'space shifting' is when you have multiple PS3s in the household... -
Avoid proprietary codecs, use Blu-rayIf we want a format that doesn't rely on a proprietary codec, we'd better pray that Sony and the rest of the Blu-ray camp step up their efforts! Blu-ray does not require, or even support, MS proprietary codes; it uses good old MPEG 2 video.
MPEG video is encumbered by patents for a few more years, but at least the details are publicly available.
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What about Blu-Ray?
What about Blu-Ray or a technology similar. It seems logical to me that if HDTV ever takes off (which it probably will) then people will want a technology that wil allow them to watch movies at the same resolution as their TV.
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Re:For those not aware
HD-DVD format uses a 405nm-wavelength blue-violet laser technology
That's Blue-Ray, the competing standard. HD-DVD is based on the same wavelength as DVD and has 15 GB single layer and 30 GB double layer disks.
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Re:Blu-Ray is the way to go...
It seems that HD-DVDs use the same wavelngth blue laser that Blu-Ray DVDs use accoring to the Blu-Ray FAQ. Also, sony has succesfully made a single head for reading regular DVDs and Blu-Ray discs, the head uses a 3-wavelength diode.
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Re:Why both H.264/AVC and WM9?
Complexity of implementation may be why Blu-Ray beats out HD-DVD. According to the Blu-Ray FAQ they only support Mpeg2, basically they are just increasing the size of DVDs. The extra 22gigs per disc might help to.
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Re:Media reliabilityThis is just going to get worse with time. Disc cartidges solve this problem reasonably well, It seems that current Blu-Ray DVDs are in carts from this review. If you look at the Blu-Ray FAQ they are still up in the air on requiring carts.
HD-DVD will not support cartridges, this is mainly because you can make the drives and discs cheaper.
I would imagine that requiring a cart would make laptop drives easier to produce (no tray), although making them optional would make them DAMN complex.
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WoopsWoops seems I was just to late for my story, or lacked the juicy article
:)
Source: Blu-ray DiscBlu-ray, also known as Blu-ray Disc (BD) is the name of a next-generation optical disc format jointly developed by eleven leading consumer electronics companies (Hitachi, LG, Mitsubishi, Panasonic, Pioneer, Philips, Samsung, Sharp, Sony, TDK and Thomson). The format was developed to enable recording, rewriting and playback of high-definition television (HDTV), which isn't possible with todays VCRs. Blu-ray makes it possible to record over 2 hours of HDTV, or more than 13 hours of SDTV on a 27GB disc. There are also plans for higher capacity discs that are expected to hold up to 54GB of data.
The beauty is, as opposed to the "not until 10yrs"-statements, you can buy a recorder from sony (BDZ-S77) already in Japan.
When will I be able to buy a Blu-ray Disc recorder?You'll probably have to wait until 2005-2006 for Blu-ray recorders to become commonly available. The driving force behind the development of Blu-ray Disc recorders is the need to record HDTV programming and currently the only country where HDTV is well established is Japan. The only Blu-ray Disc recorder that's currently available to consumers is the Sony BDZ-S77 Blu-ray Disc Recorder, but as you can see in our Blu-ray Recorders section, most well-known consumer electronics companies have their own prototype Blu-ray Disc recorder in development, so we expect to see more Blu-ray recorders on the Japanese market during 2004.
According to Sony of America's senior vice president Mike Fidler, products based on the Blu-ray Disc format are not likely to be available in the United States until 2005. However, LG Electronics has stated that they have plans to introduce a Blu-ray Disc recorder in the United States in the third quarter of 2004.While current optical disc technologies such as DVD, DVD-R, DVD+R, DVD-RW, DVD+RW and DVD-RAM use a red laser to read and write data, the new format uses a blue laser instead, hence the name Blu-ray. The benefit of using a blue laser is that it has a shorter wavelength (405 nanometer) than a red laser (650 nanometer), which means that it's possible to focus the laser beam with even greater precision. This allows data to be packed more tightly on the disc and makes it possible to fit more data on the same size disc. Despite the different type of lasers used, Blu-ray Disc recorders can be made backwards compatible with current red-laser technologies and allow playback of CDs and DVDs.
JVC, Maxell, Maxell TDK, mitsubishi, sony and many others are working on this...
HP and DELL were accepted into the group to help further develop the format for PC data storage in 2004. (which means, this is going to be widespread in a few years.) -
WoopsWoops seems I was just to late for my story, or lacked the juicy article
:)
Source: Blu-ray DiscBlu-ray, also known as Blu-ray Disc (BD) is the name of a next-generation optical disc format jointly developed by eleven leading consumer electronics companies (Hitachi, LG, Mitsubishi, Panasonic, Pioneer, Philips, Samsung, Sharp, Sony, TDK and Thomson). The format was developed to enable recording, rewriting and playback of high-definition television (HDTV), which isn't possible with todays VCRs. Blu-ray makes it possible to record over 2 hours of HDTV, or more than 13 hours of SDTV on a 27GB disc. There are also plans for higher capacity discs that are expected to hold up to 54GB of data.
The beauty is, as opposed to the "not until 10yrs"-statements, you can buy a recorder from sony (BDZ-S77) already in Japan.
When will I be able to buy a Blu-ray Disc recorder?You'll probably have to wait until 2005-2006 for Blu-ray recorders to become commonly available. The driving force behind the development of Blu-ray Disc recorders is the need to record HDTV programming and currently the only country where HDTV is well established is Japan. The only Blu-ray Disc recorder that's currently available to consumers is the Sony BDZ-S77 Blu-ray Disc Recorder, but as you can see in our Blu-ray Recorders section, most well-known consumer electronics companies have their own prototype Blu-ray Disc recorder in development, so we expect to see more Blu-ray recorders on the Japanese market during 2004.
According to Sony of America's senior vice president Mike Fidler, products based on the Blu-ray Disc format are not likely to be available in the United States until 2005. However, LG Electronics has stated that they have plans to introduce a Blu-ray Disc recorder in the United States in the third quarter of 2004.While current optical disc technologies such as DVD, DVD-R, DVD+R, DVD-RW, DVD+RW and DVD-RAM use a red laser to read and write data, the new format uses a blue laser instead, hence the name Blu-ray. The benefit of using a blue laser is that it has a shorter wavelength (405 nanometer) than a red laser (650 nanometer), which means that it's possible to focus the laser beam with even greater precision. This allows data to be packed more tightly on the disc and makes it possible to fit more data on the same size disc. Despite the different type of lasers used, Blu-ray Disc recorders can be made backwards compatible with current red-laser technologies and allow playback of CDs and DVDs.
JVC, Maxell, Maxell TDK, mitsubishi, sony and many others are working on this...
HP and DELL were accepted into the group to help further develop the format for PC data storage in 2004. (which means, this is going to be widespread in a few years.) -
WoopsWoops seems I was just to late for my story, or lacked the juicy article
:)
Source: Blu-ray DiscBlu-ray, also known as Blu-ray Disc (BD) is the name of a next-generation optical disc format jointly developed by eleven leading consumer electronics companies (Hitachi, LG, Mitsubishi, Panasonic, Pioneer, Philips, Samsung, Sharp, Sony, TDK and Thomson). The format was developed to enable recording, rewriting and playback of high-definition television (HDTV), which isn't possible with todays VCRs. Blu-ray makes it possible to record over 2 hours of HDTV, or more than 13 hours of SDTV on a 27GB disc. There are also plans for higher capacity discs that are expected to hold up to 54GB of data.
The beauty is, as opposed to the "not until 10yrs"-statements, you can buy a recorder from sony (BDZ-S77) already in Japan.
When will I be able to buy a Blu-ray Disc recorder?You'll probably have to wait until 2005-2006 for Blu-ray recorders to become commonly available. The driving force behind the development of Blu-ray Disc recorders is the need to record HDTV programming and currently the only country where HDTV is well established is Japan. The only Blu-ray Disc recorder that's currently available to consumers is the Sony BDZ-S77 Blu-ray Disc Recorder, but as you can see in our Blu-ray Recorders section, most well-known consumer electronics companies have their own prototype Blu-ray Disc recorder in development, so we expect to see more Blu-ray recorders on the Japanese market during 2004.
According to Sony of America's senior vice president Mike Fidler, products based on the Blu-ray Disc format are not likely to be available in the United States until 2005. However, LG Electronics has stated that they have plans to introduce a Blu-ray Disc recorder in the United States in the third quarter of 2004.While current optical disc technologies such as DVD, DVD-R, DVD+R, DVD-RW, DVD+RW and DVD-RAM use a red laser to read and write data, the new format uses a blue laser instead, hence the name Blu-ray. The benefit of using a blue laser is that it has a shorter wavelength (405 nanometer) than a red laser (650 nanometer), which means that it's possible to focus the laser beam with even greater precision. This allows data to be packed more tightly on the disc and makes it possible to fit more data on the same size disc. Despite the different type of lasers used, Blu-ray Disc recorders can be made backwards compatible with current red-laser technologies and allow playback of CDs and DVDs.
JVC, Maxell, Maxell TDK, mitsubishi, sony and many others are working on this...
HP and DELL were accepted into the group to help further develop the format for PC data storage in 2004. (which means, this is going to be widespread in a few years.) -
WoopsWoops seems I was just to late for my story, or lacked the juicy article
:)
Source: Blu-ray DiscBlu-ray, also known as Blu-ray Disc (BD) is the name of a next-generation optical disc format jointly developed by eleven leading consumer electronics companies (Hitachi, LG, Mitsubishi, Panasonic, Pioneer, Philips, Samsung, Sharp, Sony, TDK and Thomson). The format was developed to enable recording, rewriting and playback of high-definition television (HDTV), which isn't possible with todays VCRs. Blu-ray makes it possible to record over 2 hours of HDTV, or more than 13 hours of SDTV on a 27GB disc. There are also plans for higher capacity discs that are expected to hold up to 54GB of data.
The beauty is, as opposed to the "not until 10yrs"-statements, you can buy a recorder from sony (BDZ-S77) already in Japan.
When will I be able to buy a Blu-ray Disc recorder?You'll probably have to wait until 2005-2006 for Blu-ray recorders to become commonly available. The driving force behind the development of Blu-ray Disc recorders is the need to record HDTV programming and currently the only country where HDTV is well established is Japan. The only Blu-ray Disc recorder that's currently available to consumers is the Sony BDZ-S77 Blu-ray Disc Recorder, but as you can see in our Blu-ray Recorders section, most well-known consumer electronics companies have their own prototype Blu-ray Disc recorder in development, so we expect to see more Blu-ray recorders on the Japanese market during 2004.
According to Sony of America's senior vice president Mike Fidler, products based on the Blu-ray Disc format are not likely to be available in the United States until 2005. However, LG Electronics has stated that they have plans to introduce a Blu-ray Disc recorder in the United States in the third quarter of 2004.While current optical disc technologies such as DVD, DVD-R, DVD+R, DVD-RW, DVD+RW and DVD-RAM use a red laser to read and write data, the new format uses a blue laser instead, hence the name Blu-ray. The benefit of using a blue laser is that it has a shorter wavelength (405 nanometer) than a red laser (650 nanometer), which means that it's possible to focus the laser beam with even greater precision. This allows data to be packed more tightly on the disc and makes it possible to fit more data on the same size disc. Despite the different type of lasers used, Blu-ray Disc recorders can be made backwards compatible with current red-laser technologies and allow playback of CDs and DVDs.
JVC, Maxell, Maxell TDK, mitsubishi, sony and many others are working on this...
HP and DELL were accepted into the group to help further develop the format for PC data storage in 2004. (which means, this is going to be widespread in a few years.) -
WoopsWoops seems I was just to late for my story, or lacked the juicy article
:)
Source: Blu-ray DiscBlu-ray, also known as Blu-ray Disc (BD) is the name of a next-generation optical disc format jointly developed by eleven leading consumer electronics companies (Hitachi, LG, Mitsubishi, Panasonic, Pioneer, Philips, Samsung, Sharp, Sony, TDK and Thomson). The format was developed to enable recording, rewriting and playback of high-definition television (HDTV), which isn't possible with todays VCRs. Blu-ray makes it possible to record over 2 hours of HDTV, or more than 13 hours of SDTV on a 27GB disc. There are also plans for higher capacity discs that are expected to hold up to 54GB of data.
The beauty is, as opposed to the "not until 10yrs"-statements, you can buy a recorder from sony (BDZ-S77) already in Japan.
When will I be able to buy a Blu-ray Disc recorder?You'll probably have to wait until 2005-2006 for Blu-ray recorders to become commonly available. The driving force behind the development of Blu-ray Disc recorders is the need to record HDTV programming and currently the only country where HDTV is well established is Japan. The only Blu-ray Disc recorder that's currently available to consumers is the Sony BDZ-S77 Blu-ray Disc Recorder, but as you can see in our Blu-ray Recorders section, most well-known consumer electronics companies have their own prototype Blu-ray Disc recorder in development, so we expect to see more Blu-ray recorders on the Japanese market during 2004.
According to Sony of America's senior vice president Mike Fidler, products based on the Blu-ray Disc format are not likely to be available in the United States until 2005. However, LG Electronics has stated that they have plans to introduce a Blu-ray Disc recorder in the United States in the third quarter of 2004.While current optical disc technologies such as DVD, DVD-R, DVD+R, DVD-RW, DVD+RW and DVD-RAM use a red laser to read and write data, the new format uses a blue laser instead, hence the name Blu-ray. The benefit of using a blue laser is that it has a shorter wavelength (405 nanometer) than a red laser (650 nanometer), which means that it's possible to focus the laser beam with even greater precision. This allows data to be packed more tightly on the disc and makes it possible to fit more data on the same size disc. Despite the different type of lasers used, Blu-ray Disc recorders can be made backwards compatible with current red-laser technologies and allow playback of CDs and DVDs.
JVC, Maxell, Maxell TDK, mitsubishi, sony and many others are working on this...
HP and DELL were accepted into the group to help further develop the format for PC data storage in 2004. (which means, this is going to be widespread in a few years.) -
WoopsWoops seems I was just to late for my story, or lacked the juicy article
:)
Source: Blu-ray DiscBlu-ray, also known as Blu-ray Disc (BD) is the name of a next-generation optical disc format jointly developed by eleven leading consumer electronics companies (Hitachi, LG, Mitsubishi, Panasonic, Pioneer, Philips, Samsung, Sharp, Sony, TDK and Thomson). The format was developed to enable recording, rewriting and playback of high-definition television (HDTV), which isn't possible with todays VCRs. Blu-ray makes it possible to record over 2 hours of HDTV, or more than 13 hours of SDTV on a 27GB disc. There are also plans for higher capacity discs that are expected to hold up to 54GB of data.
The beauty is, as opposed to the "not until 10yrs"-statements, you can buy a recorder from sony (BDZ-S77) already in Japan.
When will I be able to buy a Blu-ray Disc recorder?You'll probably have to wait until 2005-2006 for Blu-ray recorders to become commonly available. The driving force behind the development of Blu-ray Disc recorders is the need to record HDTV programming and currently the only country where HDTV is well established is Japan. The only Blu-ray Disc recorder that's currently available to consumers is the Sony BDZ-S77 Blu-ray Disc Recorder, but as you can see in our Blu-ray Recorders section, most well-known consumer electronics companies have their own prototype Blu-ray Disc recorder in development, so we expect to see more Blu-ray recorders on the Japanese market during 2004.
According to Sony of America's senior vice president Mike Fidler, products based on the Blu-ray Disc format are not likely to be available in the United States until 2005. However, LG Electronics has stated that they have plans to introduce a Blu-ray Disc recorder in the United States in the third quarter of 2004.While current optical disc technologies such as DVD, DVD-R, DVD+R, DVD-RW, DVD+RW and DVD-RAM use a red laser to read and write data, the new format uses a blue laser instead, hence the name Blu-ray. The benefit of using a blue laser is that it has a shorter wavelength (405 nanometer) than a red laser (650 nanometer), which means that it's possible to focus the laser beam with even greater precision. This allows data to be packed more tightly on the disc and makes it possible to fit more data on the same size disc. Despite the different type of lasers used, Blu-ray Disc recorders can be made backwards compatible with current red-laser technologies and allow playback of CDs and DVDs.
JVC, Maxell, Maxell TDK, mitsubishi, sony and many others are working on this...
HP and DELL were accepted into the group to help further develop the format for PC data storage in 2004. (which means, this is going to be widespread in a few years.) -
WoopsWoops seems I was just to late for my story, or lacked the juicy article
:)
Source: Blu-ray DiscBlu-ray, also known as Blu-ray Disc (BD) is the name of a next-generation optical disc format jointly developed by eleven leading consumer electronics companies (Hitachi, LG, Mitsubishi, Panasonic, Pioneer, Philips, Samsung, Sharp, Sony, TDK and Thomson). The format was developed to enable recording, rewriting and playback of high-definition television (HDTV), which isn't possible with todays VCRs. Blu-ray makes it possible to record over 2 hours of HDTV, or more than 13 hours of SDTV on a 27GB disc. There are also plans for higher capacity discs that are expected to hold up to 54GB of data.
The beauty is, as opposed to the "not until 10yrs"-statements, you can buy a recorder from sony (BDZ-S77) already in Japan.
When will I be able to buy a Blu-ray Disc recorder?You'll probably have to wait until 2005-2006 for Blu-ray recorders to become commonly available. The driving force behind the development of Blu-ray Disc recorders is the need to record HDTV programming and currently the only country where HDTV is well established is Japan. The only Blu-ray Disc recorder that's currently available to consumers is the Sony BDZ-S77 Blu-ray Disc Recorder, but as you can see in our Blu-ray Recorders section, most well-known consumer electronics companies have their own prototype Blu-ray Disc recorder in development, so we expect to see more Blu-ray recorders on the Japanese market during 2004.
According to Sony of America's senior vice president Mike Fidler, products based on the Blu-ray Disc format are not likely to be available in the United States until 2005. However, LG Electronics has stated that they have plans to introduce a Blu-ray Disc recorder in the United States in the third quarter of 2004.While current optical disc technologies such as DVD, DVD-R, DVD+R, DVD-RW, DVD+RW and DVD-RAM use a red laser to read and write data, the new format uses a blue laser instead, hence the name Blu-ray. The benefit of using a blue laser is that it has a shorter wavelength (405 nanometer) than a red laser (650 nanometer), which means that it's possible to focus the laser beam with even greater precision. This allows data to be packed more tightly on the disc and makes it possible to fit more data on the same size disc. Despite the different type of lasers used, Blu-ray Disc recorders can be made backwards compatible with current red-laser technologies and allow playback of CDs and DVDs.
JVC, Maxell, Maxell TDK, mitsubishi, sony and many others are working on this...
HP and DELL were accepted into the group to help further develop the format for PC data storage in 2004. (which means, this is going to be widespread in a few years.) -
WoopsWoops seems I was just to late for my story, or lacked the juicy article
:)
Source: Blu-ray DiscBlu-ray, also known as Blu-ray Disc (BD) is the name of a next-generation optical disc format jointly developed by eleven leading consumer electronics companies (Hitachi, LG, Mitsubishi, Panasonic, Pioneer, Philips, Samsung, Sharp, Sony, TDK and Thomson). The format was developed to enable recording, rewriting and playback of high-definition television (HDTV), which isn't possible with todays VCRs. Blu-ray makes it possible to record over 2 hours of HDTV, or more than 13 hours of SDTV on a 27GB disc. There are also plans for higher capacity discs that are expected to hold up to 54GB of data.
The beauty is, as opposed to the "not until 10yrs"-statements, you can buy a recorder from sony (BDZ-S77) already in Japan.
When will I be able to buy a Blu-ray Disc recorder?You'll probably have to wait until 2005-2006 for Blu-ray recorders to become commonly available. The driving force behind the development of Blu-ray Disc recorders is the need to record HDTV programming and currently the only country where HDTV is well established is Japan. The only Blu-ray Disc recorder that's currently available to consumers is the Sony BDZ-S77 Blu-ray Disc Recorder, but as you can see in our Blu-ray Recorders section, most well-known consumer electronics companies have their own prototype Blu-ray Disc recorder in development, so we expect to see more Blu-ray recorders on the Japanese market during 2004.
According to Sony of America's senior vice president Mike Fidler, products based on the Blu-ray Disc format are not likely to be available in the United States until 2005. However, LG Electronics has stated that they have plans to introduce a Blu-ray Disc recorder in the United States in the third quarter of 2004.While current optical disc technologies such as DVD, DVD-R, DVD+R, DVD-RW, DVD+RW and DVD-RAM use a red laser to read and write data, the new format uses a blue laser instead, hence the name Blu-ray. The benefit of using a blue laser is that it has a shorter wavelength (405 nanometer) than a red laser (650 nanometer), which means that it's possible to focus the laser beam with even greater precision. This allows data to be packed more tightly on the disc and makes it possible to fit more data on the same size disc. Despite the different type of lasers used, Blu-ray Disc recorders can be made backwards compatible with current red-laser technologies and allow playback of CDs and DVDs.
JVC, Maxell, Maxell TDK, mitsubishi, sony and many others are working on this...
HP and DELL were accepted into the group to help further develop the format for PC data storage in 2004. (which means, this is going to be widespread in a few years.) -
RTFA
All of which assumes that they're looking to make a portable electron-beam disc player. That's not at all what they're talking about. They specifically say that this is a tech for mastering discs. For playback, you'd use Blu-Ray or something similar. That would be more advanced than anything on the market now, but it's still just a plain old-fashioned laser.
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Re:I want this not Blu-Ray!
For the life of me I don't know why HD-DVD was chosen by the DVD Forum over Blu-Ray.
The DVD Forum can't approve/accept a format that hasn't been proposed to the forum, and Blu-ray Disc most likely never will be. The Blu-ray format was developed outside of the DVD Forum by a group of 10 leading consumer electronics companies called the Blu-ray Disc Founders (BDF). The reason they haven't proposed the format is because they feel that the format is siginificantly different from current DVDs and needs to be developed in another forum.
Check out the Blu-ray web site for more information.
P.S. The HD-DVD format wasn't approved until they changed the voting rules so that abstained votes didn't count. -
Re:Only Does '+' Formats
A buddy of mine burnt several DVD+Rs for me. After I came back home, they became coasters as I found out none of the PCs I own read them. My laptop is less than a year old for god's sake. Despite its hype, DVD+R format is useless unless you have a compatible drive(players should be ok).
Also, new 8x recorders are coming.
Also, new double-layer recorders are coming.
The target is constantly moving...
As far as the next generation high capacity DVD format is concerned, Blue-ray is currently under development, headed by Sony, Matsushita(panasonic) and phillips. Meanwhile, (oh what a surprise) there is another high-cap DVD standard using blue-laser technology, headed by Toshiba and NEC. It is called HD-DVD and it stores 5 times more data than current DVD+/-Rs can hold. Needless to say they are incompatible to one another.
while neither of new DVD standards is available in the market yet, it is a matter of time that they will replace the current standards. Then again, we will face incompatibility issues between Blue-Ray and HD DVD. Competition is good, but consumers have got enough of those with VHS/Beta, LaserDisc/Videodisc, Win/Mac, yada yada yada.
Despite its hype and promises, DVD+R may live a short life (maybe 10 years) IMO. -
Re:Not good enough
Sony is actively pushing the Blu-Ray format. There is already the HD BDZ-S77 Blu-Ray HD recorder/player devices being sold in Japan.
Blu-Ray can hold 23GB on a disk, but more importantly it can have very high-speed data transfers, and the pro Blu-Ray devices even have two heads for faster transfer. -
Check out..
Visit blu-ray.com and read more about those 25/50gb recordable discs supported by Sony, Hitachi, JVC, Panasonic, Philips, Pionner, Samsung, Sharp and TDK.
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and HD-DVDs are on the way...