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Meanwhile, they can't build madrassas fast enough.

We won't be wrapping ourselves around any axles over whats being taught there, will we? Homophobia, anyone?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/8570506/Police-covered-up-violent-campaign-to-turn-London-area-Islamic.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1374443/Police-hid-abuse-60-girls-Asian-takeaway-workers-linked-Charlene-Downes-murder.html
http://www.bnp.org.uk/news/muslim-paedophile-gangs-have-been-operating-%E2%80%9Cdecades%E2%80%9D-admits-former-police-chief
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/14/iran-gay-men-executed-hanging_n_1515207.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/07/iran-executes-men-homosexuality-charges
http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/11/27/gay-holocaust-in-iran-4000-killed-and-counting/
http://www.torontosun.com/2012/03/26/disgust-over-muslim-wife-beating-book
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2012/03/23/19543371.html
https://www.google.ca/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=police+in+UK+scared+of+muslims&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&redir_esc=&ei=PpFhUd0HwpaIAojLgagO#hl=en&gs_rn=8&gs_ri=psy-ab&tok=YRHZtAg-ihnWR_44H-nTgw&pq=muslim%20wife%20beating%20canada&cp=11&gs_id=9oj&xhr=t&q=islam+acid+attacks&es_nrs=true&pf=p&client=ubuntu&hs=AVY&channel=fs&sclient=psy-ab&oq=islam+acid+&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.44770516,d.cGE&fp=d05afac0920070b6&biw=1390&bih=672r
I could post links for you all day but it would be pointless you love Islam because it lets you be a terrorist and get away with it because people are to scared to stand up to terrorists of the false prophet Muhammad. Your above post is exactly what your Muhammad stands for, way to represent he must be proud.

There are no people of British origin left under the current totalitarian regime in the United Kingdom. I am not a racist but people can see for themselves. Democracy, human rights, free speech, air planes, cars, air conditioning, medicine and television are no inventions from the UK or US. Democracy performs very badly in the US and UK because these nations are unable and unwilling to fix their elections system. When your system does not fail big you stay with the shitty tradition, the free maison proto-democracy without universal suffrage in the US and the political system of the UK that turned all their colonies into dysfunctional states.

You can pretend the US is some how leagues above everyone else in freedom but it doesn't make it true. You're less likely to see women walking on the beach topless in the US, you're more likely to get sued (in fact lawsuits the subjects of numerous TV shows), you're more likely to be attacked for holding different religious beliefs, especially if you believe in no god.

And here are some examples of Europeans freedom of speech:

Pat Condell http://www.youtube.com/user/patcondell

Nigel Farage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bypLwI5AQvY

Nick Griffin http://bnp.org.uk/

Sure Europe has twats, like Nick Griffin, crying about their rights being trampled on but the mere fact he can hang out with the David Duke, hasn't been stopped for his comments on Muslims and has been allowed to even participate in politics says to me that European free speech is doing fine.

Gun laws aren't even as restrictive as some Americans make out. Very few countries ban guns out right. Even the NRA has stated that, for instance, 10% of Austrians own hand guns compared to 16% of Americans. http://www.nraila.org/Issues/Articles/Read.aspx?ID=72

I do support the freedom to own guns and don't think own even automatics should be completely out of the question (though it should be quite hard to get them) but I understand why the laws exist and in a free society if vast majority do agree with the laws then where is the issue with the law? Some people value things differently. The Japanese may think the US is odd for not having public baths but that doesn't necessarily make the US wrong (or right).

There are some limits to freedom of speech just as there are some limits in the US and every other country. Europe is by no means perfect but the US certainly isn't either and it isn't

This is an issue between China and the United States, it's not a 'Cold War mentality' when you're keeping tabs on threats to you. Every country does it. The fear here is that China is dipping into/forcing a civilian base to partake in information warfare. If we were writing this report about being afraid of China for it's pool of computer science resources, we would be much more afraid of India--the largest pool of information technology.

I seriously doubt that China is "forcing" civilians to participate. There's crazy nationalists willing to whatever it for the "greater good" as they see it in every country. The United Kingdom, Germany, even the United States.Nationalism is on the upswing in China, especially with the youth. Even if the segment of the self-mobilized population is same fraction of any other country, then there still would be more in China.

Never underestimate the will of some crazy to try to take matters into his own hands.

(http://eastcoastwisdom.blogspot.com/)
BBC has about as much journalistic integrity as Entertainment Tonight,

their own admission [dailymail.co.uk]

information act request [telegraph.co.uk]

for the release of their own internal review of their Middle East coverage; most suspect because it implies that they have been highly biased against Israel.

The simple fact that a 15 year old boy getting shot gets such media attention in Britain (when compared to similar events in America) is noteworthy. Sure, the USA is a far larger country, but even at a State level you don't really see the same kind of news reporting when it comes to these kind of shootings.

It also should be noted that political correctness is also alot worse in the UK than the USA. Whenever anyone of a minority ethnic group is harmed or murdered in the UK, the media and the powers-that-be get into a frenzy, searching for how they can turn it into a story about racism from evil whitey and push the need for tighter "hate crime" laws, more surveillance cameras, more controls on any potential weapons (including bats and knives) and a greater need to celebrate "diversity". This kind of behavior from the media has got to such an extent that the far right have skyrocketed in popularity over the past couple of years.

Keep Europe white

"Reggae is vile."

"Obviously to get on Top Of The Pops these days one had to be, by law, black. I think something political has happened and there has been a hefty pushing of all these black artists and all this discofied nonsense into the Top 40... In essence, this music doesn't say anything whatsoever "

Saying stuff like this whilst wandering round draped in a Union Jack along with his apparent fascination with skinheads, is bound to raise a few eybrows.

Perhpas Morrissey's history has to do with his recent 'interview', that coupled with his recent comments may have been enough to cause a blip on government radars. As I say, I don't think the man really is a facist as some would have it (actually Im a big fan, seen him live many times) but there may be more to this than just his anti bush comments. Everyone here has assumed that it's some sort of liberal, left wing viewpoint that has landed him in trouble, just because he's anti bush doesn't mean that he's also a liberal. They may have thought he was involved with the far right.
"I don't want to be European. I want England to remain an island. I think part of the greatness of the past has been the fact that England has been an island." (Morrissey, August 1992)
sounds similar to the BNPs view. There's a good page about his nineties nationalist controversy here

I do belive that the current regime here in the UK and in the USA has gone way top far in eroding our liberties, and that pulling Moz in was unjustified, but at the same time groups and their supporters that seek to damage society and disrupt the democratic process do need watching. I'd hate to think that no one was paying attention.

Interesting the BNP are against ID cards. Don't pay much attention to what the media tells you about the BNP policies, examine them and decide for yourself.

Interesting the BNP are against ID cards. Don't pay much attention to what the media tells you about the BNP policies, examine them and decide for yourself.

In the US, we allow people to call themselves neo-Nazis and salute Hitler while holding a sign proclaiming that "God hates fags." And, as nauseating as I find those points of view, I think people should have the right to express them (but not to act on them.)

. . .because you're really, really dumb. Or at the very least, your reasoning is. Let's begin with a glaring appeal to ignorance:

They may be racists, fascists, and anything else you can call them, but if they publish something that is factually-untrue, people will be outraged. I haven't seen any such outrage (besides your own) over the BNP's and Telegraph's reporting of the murder, whatever the slant may be; then again, I admit I haven't looked that hard (again, citing the Telegraph article was due to my wanting to verify that this party's claim was, in all probability, at least generally-true, b/c I knew the BNP would - like any political party - have an axe to grind).

You readily admit that you don't know anything about the BNP, other than that they're a political party (which is evident from their name). You want outrage? Google News has over 150 stories mentioning them, none particularly complimentary; a search on The Guardian's website finds almost a page's worth of stories in the last week alone, and a search at the dreaded BBC News site finds 27 pages of results. The BNP aren't small, or stealthy, or unknown, and the outrage against them isn't small, or stealthy, or unknown either. Certainly, knowledge of the BNP is prerequisite to commenting on contemporary British politics. Your strategy of justification is an appeal to ignorance (you haven't heard the outrage against the BNP, so it must not exist), and in the end, all that it proves is your own ignorance. And it's offensive that you use a quote that you misattribute to Malcolm X to defend an organization that publishes articles like The Islamic Menace.

Now, let's tackle your fundamental misunderstanding of the BBC and the TV licence. The TV licence isn't a one-time tax collected by the government at the point of purchase (as you assert on the basis of, it seems, absolutely nothing), but rather, a monthly fee, collected by the BBC. So your arrow diagram falls flat. It is, of course, collected with the authority of the government, but all sorts of private and arms-length public bodies collect money from users with the authority of the government: toll roads, utilities, that sort of thing. I also think you fundamentally misunderstand the nature of the BBC: in no sense is it "private sector": it's owned by the crown, but its revenue and its governance is independent. To suggest that this arrangement is "by definition" fascism totally misunderstands fascism: the BBC isn't subject to central control by an anti-democratic despot; rather, it often works as an important part of British democracy, holding the government to account (as you did note later on). Fascism isn't so much about formal structures, but rather what's done with those structures, and the BBC certainly doesn't act in a fascistic manner. And as part of their charter-renewal process, the BBC is looking at the future of the TV licence. As I understand it (and I've moved away from the U.K., so I'm not keeping up as much as I was), they want to keep the licence, but there are alternative proposals being put forth, and while the BBC is lobbying to keep the licence, it hasn't "denounced" anyone.

Anyway, my main point is this: you've gone off, in an authoritative way, stating "economic definitions" (whatever the hell that means), and opinions about the "definition of fascism" and the legal status of the BBC, from a professed position of ignorance

Can you trust the BBC knowing that they have people murdered on the taxpayer dime?

See also here...

I agree the BBC usually seems relatively-impartial, but I have an awfully-hard time trusting a source that (seemingly) uses its power to kill people...

In any case, I'm not sure impartiality is a good thing. IMO, a polarized media -- FOX vs. PBS here in the states, for example -- is a better system. At least that way you know what you're getting; you don't have to watch CNN for hours and hours to determine if they have a "slight liberal streak" or "slight conservative streak"... (personally, I think CNN is slightly left-ish and PBS moreso, while FOX is off-the-charts right-wing, except economically, where it's pretty standard Republican fare. MSNBC seems to pander to whichever way the winds of ratings are blowing...)

I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it. Twice in the last year certain groups at Exeter University have tried to ban a particularly nasty political party from debates on campus. Of course this was shot down, both times, by a large majority.

Ban groups and more people support them. You fight lies with the truth, not silence.

Of course many "Socialists" in the UK think that the general populace can't be trusted not to fall into the trap of believing what the BNP et.al. say.

Exactly.

For instance, in the UK the predominant far-right party is the BNP (good site with background info and just how insane they are here). I, along with many others, believe them to mostly be racist wankers led by people with convictions for nailbombing and inciting racial hatred-and the government agrees with me. However, the government also does not want to crack down on the BNP and ban it outright, as to do so would be an infringement on freedom of speech.

This is the way it should be done: freedom of speech is a human right, which should not be denied to anyone willy-nilly, be they racist Nazi shits or far left Communist hippies.

But the real question is do you belong to the BNP?

You're not the only one criticial of Searchlight. Groups of the British Far-Right hate it as well. Among these is Spearhead , a magazine published by John Tyndall, the founder of the British National Party. Spearhead has written an article on Searchlight .

DISCLAIMER: By linking to the resources above, I do not agree with the contents provided therein. I despise Nazis, Fascists, and other bigots in every shape and form.

Of course the BNP have no reason to lie. I'm just glad to see care in the community in action, and to think Labour said it wouldn't work.

Send the buggers back, there are plenty of PIA flights every day.

Mind you, they may well be a bunch of lying Pakis - the three from Tipton were apparently overheard planning to go and train in Afghanistan, but of course the authorities over here won't send the bastards back to Pakistan where they belong.

Yes - I am a British nationalist. It's my country, and my right to object to it being diluted by multiculturalism.

I'm not a fan of their racism, and hate most of the arseholes who turn up at the rallies, but their policies regarding how Britain should behave are the best around - it's what the British Conservatives should adopt if they are ever to have success.

Good on you for posting a challenge to the /. lefties.

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• The National Alliance: The link to follow if you are following only one. Don't forget to check the recent broadcasts section
• Vanguard News Network: Daily News
• Jeff's Archive: Very large repository of controversial writing
• Stormfront: Bulletin Board
• British National Party: The party of Britain
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