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Alexa is now selling less than Google home, much less.

And using the same approach, I could claim that Google home is selling less now than in 2017Q4:

https://www.canalys.com/newsro...

(Your conclusion that Alexa is currently selling less than Google home, based on the single quarter of 2018Q1, may not necessarily be true, as both products saw drops of > 50% in units sold between 2017Q4 and 2018Q1)

Amazon might be able to "disrupt" industries outside the tech industry. But its track record of taking on other tech companies is dismal. I don't see this changing anytime soon.

You seem to be ignoring AWS ...

Maybe the fragmentation is why there aren't anywhere near as many Android tablet optimized apps.

Umm... no. It's quite easy to have different layouts for larger screens in Android.

http://www.canalys.com/download/tablet_apps.pdf

Don't know the relevance of the link you posted. A number of the listed iPad apps that don't have equivalent Android apps are made by Apple, so of course they don't have Android versions. There are very few listed there that have Android versions but are not optimized for tablets, which kinda defeats the fragmentation argument. As someone who owns an Android tablet, I run into very few apps that don't work well on a tablet screen. Most I see *are* optimized for tablets, and many of those that aren't optimized still scale up well enough that it's not a problem.

Maybe the fragmentation is why there aren't anywhere near as many Android tablet optimized apps.

http://www.canalys.com/download/tablet_apps.pdf

$79 is IDG not me.

There is no downward trend. Here is another source. I think the growth is too high but it sure ain't down: http://www.canalys.com/static/press_release/2013/canalys-press-release-070213-android-powered-third-all-mobile-phones-shipped-q4-2012.pdf

Then show me your source, because right now local Analysis and Local retail...and the graphs you supply by IDG all point to $76 Android phone being a lie made up by you.

You provide no information about china and the source you provide again restates the fact Apple is a failure in China "China is a massive growth prospect but Apple is not making the market share impact there that it is in other markets. The lack of a device on the China Mobile network is a big drawback, combined with high price points."

Do you even read your own links.

$79 is IDG not me.

There is no downward trend. Here is another source. I think the growth is too high but it sure ain't down: http://www.canalys.com/static/press_release/2013/canalys-press-release-070213-android-powered-third-all-mobile-phones-shipped-q4-2012.pdf

Closed systems are bad um ok

So if open is so much better for developers, then why are iOS developers making 75% of the revenues from mobile app downloads?

http://www.canalys.com/newsroom/11-quarterly-growth-downloads-leading-app-stores

Money != morality

Closed systems are bad um ok

So if open is so much better for developers, then why are iOS developers making 75% of the revenues from mobile app downloads?

http://www.canalys.com/newsroom/11-quarterly-growth-downloads-leading-app-stores

These guys monitor supply chains, and they include tables with PCs, which gives their top spot to Apple, the next to HP, and Lenovo comes in third:

http://www.canalys.com/newsroom/2012-will-bring-new-world-record-pc-shipments

Hmm... IDC market share stats are improving. As a one time Symbian engineer, I've followed mobile market share for over a decade, and found Canalys to be much more reliable than IDC. But this time the stats are very, very similar.
http://www.canalys.com/newsroom/stellar-growth-sees-china-take-27-global-smart-phone-shipments-powered-domestic-vendors

I just found a recent market share report.

For me, the most interesting thing in this report is that tablets (mostly iPad and some Kindle Fire) made up 40% of PC shipments in North America in the first quarter of this year. I wonder if there are a lot of purchasers holding out for Windows 8? I'm not sure how else to explain non-Microsoft PC's getting so much marketshare.

" Apple releases nice products yes, but they did not invent anything themselves, or 'shine out' as you say."

Then why does the rest of the industry keep trying to copy what Apple is doing? Over and over and over again.

iPods
iPhones
iPads
Ultrabooks
UI

As for your 'statistics', you might want to see who the number 1 PC vendor in the world is.
http://www.canalys.com/newsroom/apple-storms-past-hp-lead-global-pc-market

I honestly don't have a clue how HTC survives

Because they are the leading smartphone manufacturer in the US (at least as of Q3 last year). That doesn't reflect worldwide numbers or revenue generated, but it's nothing to sneeze at either. My last 3 phones have been HTC and I'll continue to buy their phones. Their damn good phones, affordable, and are often hacker-friendly(er).

I was referring to worldwide figures. Interestingly Samsung appears to have shipped more Bada smartphones than all WP7 phones combined. Shipped doesn't mean sold but it is an interesting stat.

The answer i all the tablet, netbooks and other gizmos churned out en masse from China, that run Android (because it's easy to implement being so open, and pretty much free.)

Except that its not. While TFA uses the word "mobile", the source it cites is a market report from Canalys, which actually found that Android has displaced Symbian as the #1 smartphone OS. So none of those tablets, netbooks, and "other gizmos" that aren't smartphones had any effect.

Apple has a substantial lead?

(Note: the title of the first article is misleading; according to the article, Apple as a single hardware vendor is in the lead, but Android as an OS has twice the market share as iOS)

Android's market share isn't close to #1, it's #4 in the US (unless it's passed Windows Mobile, which should be happening right around now), and that's higher than its worldwide share.

I think you are confusing market share with new phone sales. Market share is how much of the market is using a particular manufacturer's product. New sales is how many new customers in a certain, recent period bought a manufacturer's product. Last quarter, Android rocketed ahead of iOS in new sales, but it still doesn't even have half the market share, in the US or worldwide.

In the US, market share is:
RIM 35%
Apple 28%
Microsoft 15%
Android 13%

And while Apple's percentage of new sales did drop last quarter, they still had worldwide sales growth up 61% for the quarter. Market share percentage fell because Android sales grew by 886% in the quarter. The point that Android sales are doing really well is true, but they're no where near #1 in market share yet.

I also note they completely ignore the two largest smartphone platforms - Symbian and RIM

Wrong. That would be Android and RIM in the US (where Vonage is based), or Symbian and Android worldwide.

Sure, we've gotten laptops, and now tablets and smartphones, but desktops are still more popular than all three and they are still pretty big.

No. Laptop sales have exceeded desktop sales since 2008.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laptop

And smartphone sales are greater than desktop sales too.
Worldwide smartphone sales = 166 million
Worldwide desktop sales = PC sales - laptop sales = 305.9 million - 177.7 million = 128.2 million.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_share_of_leading_PC_vendors
http://www.canalys.com/pr/2010/r2010021.html

I don't think much of your research. That's from October last year. The report from the same company is widely available for Feb this year, and it has Apple on 25.4% and MS on 15.1%.
http://comscore.com/Press_Events/Press_Releases/2010/4/comScore_Reports_February_2010_U.S._Mobile_Subscriber_Market_Share

Worldwide, they both do less well, because Symbian is still holding on ot the lion's share. Apple 15.1%, Microsoft 8.8%.
http://www.canalys.com/pr/2010/r2010021.html

and the number of windows mobile applications vastly outnumbers the number of iPhone applications (by about 10 times I wager)

Worst bet ever. Number of apps on Microsoft's own Windows Marketplace for Mobile = 872. Number of Apps on iTunes = 185,000.

I must admit I was thinking about touch-screen devices, since that's a huge part of the challenge.

http://www.canalys.com/pr/2010/r2010021.html

But poor Palm. They don't even rate their own color in that chart, just a gray "Others" slice.

I hate to say this, but you were generous indeed... (I was hoping for more!!!)

http://www.canalys.com/pr/2009/r2009112.html

But.. even 2-3% means many millions of devices... ;)

You're mixing two different sources there, and one of them is based on counting ads served to various platforms. Why not just stick with all the numbers from Canalys (the source for your figures on Symbian, BlackBerry, and iPhone)?

Symbian: 46.2%
BlackBerry: 20.6%
iPhone: 17.8%
Microsoft: 8.8%
Android: 3.5%
Others: 3.2%

As such, my earlier statement stands: VMware's product addresses less than 16 percent of the total smartphone market.

http://www.canalys.com/pr/2009/r2009081.htm

Symbian 50.3%
RIM 20.9%
Apple 13.9%
Android 2.8%

Er - who cares? Sorry, aside from you having no evidence for your speculations (where on earth do you pull stats like 47% from?), why is this a relevant or useful statistic?

It's important because usage varies and markets can segregate. As far as this discussion is concerned, we're only interested in Symbian's value as a Smartphone/Computer OS. If only a small minority are interested in it's more advanced capabilities then that severely affects it's "market leadership".
It's like counting the amount of embedded devices running on Linux when we're talking Windows vs. Ubuntu.

And as for 47%, he was referring to Symbians market share in a 2008 poll: http://www.canalys.com/pr/2008/r2008112.htm

Ah I see - I love how you twist the fact that other phones are offered free on contract, whilst the Iphone costs money, to be an advantage to the latter.

I get the impression he was referring to the fact that they didn't choose a software platform but were merely interested in the device's functionality as a telephone.

That would be a sensible aim if the iPhone was the market leader.

Now, show us some reference where the iPhone is shown to be leading the market.

According to some research from about 2 months ago, Apple has 17.3% of the smartphone market share, behind only Nokia at 38.9%. Going from 0% to 17.3% in 18 months is pretty impressive. Not only that, but Apple sells one model of iPhone (ignoring capacity and color differences). Nokia has many smartphones. I would not be surprised if the iPhone beats every particular model of Nokia's.

A few years from now, when Apple is selling the iPhone nano, iPhone classic, and several other models, they might well be crushing Nokia the same way they crushed everybody in the MP3 player market. (Or they might lose one for a change, you never know.)

Personally, I'm waiting for the iPhone Shuffle. Nothing more than an earpiece, a microphone, and a button to call one of your friends at random.

Um, those numbers include non-smartphones. If you are including only smartphones (which is more reasonable as I think the market for apps is larger on smartphones), you get:
http://www.canalys.com/pr/2008/r2008112.htm

Nokia 46.6%
Apple 17.3%
RIM 15.2%
Microsoft 13.6%

MIDP may still be the biggest market, now, but by this time next year if Apple continues to grow and expand aggressively they will probably be the bigger market.

I agree with the parent post. Port your app to iPhone. It might mean more development time but you will probably get much better profit margins. Your distribution and marketing costs will be near zero (except for the $99 start up fee) and your app will be available for download by millions. Apple sold over 6.8million iPhones in last quarter alone http://www.canalys.com/pr/2008/r2008112.htm and there are 13million iPhones out there already.

Sorry but if the market segment you are talking about is smartphones then Nokia is very much number one. Not Blackberry, not HTC and certainly not Apple. http://www.canalys.com/pr/2008/r2008021.htm

According to Canalys, in worldwide converged smart mobile device market for Q4 2007, iPhone had share of ... 6.5%.

I won't comment on any of your post other than the statement:


Mobile 5 blows the doors off of all business class phones today with the exception of RIM's


This is simply untrue. Symbian OS is the leading smartphone OS with 61% of smartphones using it. In terms of features etc., I'd be interested to see you post some areas in which Windows Mobile 5 outperforms Symbian OS.

Parent is absolutely correct about Symbian, which has already dominated the smart mobile device market (PDA and smart phones).

Look at the numbers and you will see that Symbian twice outsells Microsoft and Palm combined.

The whole Palm vs. MS debate is like Wendy's fighting Burger King and both pretending McDonald's doesn't exist. Why yes, I did post this with a Symbian phone.

This site has interesting numbers. It seems the Nokia smart devices outsold the others (combined) in Q12005, with a 50% market share.

Mostly wrong. They only have their own platforms for dumb cell phones. For Smartphones, which are the significant devices here, they use OSs from Symbian, Microsoft, and PalmSource. These constitute 90% of the market, with Symbian OS providing for 61% of the market. See this market share report.

I mean really.

According to the numbers, http://www.canalys.com/pr/2005/r2005012.htm smartphones sell more each quarter than PDAs sell all year.

The smartphone market is still young and growing at a blistering pace, while the PDA market is in decline.

very cool, a new magazine JUST for Symbian OS...since there are significantly more Symbian licencees than PocketPC Smartphone Edition licencees (according Canalys, the majority of mobile devices in the EMEA market now use the Symbian OS and there'll be plenty of content because the OS is unusual and interesting. It will be interesting too to see how the magazine shapes up and tackles the challenge to Symbian OS from Windows CE .NET which seems to be gaining ground.