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Could anyone do it in one line of APL?

APL, FYI. HAND.

Another one of my great ideas I never got around to doing... [I also dreamt up maglev trains when I was 8 years old--unfortunately that one had already been invented]

I used to be an old APL programmer and thought LED keycaps would be an excellent idea to see the APL characters...

Ah, APL ! The problem with it is that you can't even write it on Slashdot.

Here is sample code for those who didn't know about this fantastic programming language.
Of course there is also the wikipedia article

About the pronouciation part, I would say that it isn't a real concern while spelling / grammar remains approximately the same. While it may be annoying, these remains shades of the same language. It is common to a variety of languages geographically / culturally widespread. Arab doesn't sound from country to country, German from North Germany to South Germany, French from North to South to Swiss to Québec...

What would be annoying is a shift between american and british english, to a point you couldn't read between dialects.

Compare this ruling to the Bush v. Gore ruling.

Universal Time. It's been tried before, and tried again, and then even tried more recently in a different fashion from UTC and bizarre marketing fashion: Internet Time from Swatch.

Personally it would make the most sense to use the International date line as the time meridian no matter the "unit" of time you choose, but hey, apparently I'm a raving lunatic. I also don't care if "time X" means anything definite with regards to the position of the sun or whether I'm at work or whether the kids are in school. The sun would likely rise somewhere between "X" and "Y" time and go back and forth depending on season, and schools and businesses could either have set or moving times going with the seasons instead of "following the clock".

A recording of the hearing (30 minutes, 29 MB) is at sco.petrofsky.org/autozone-2004-07-12.mp3 and www.users.cloud9.net/~terrapn/Courtroom%207D%20-%2 012-07-2004.mp3

I know the first URL won't survive much of a slashdotting, not sure about the second. Please mirror it somewhere better if you're so inclined. (No, this is not a bootleg recording. I obtained it from the clerk on Tuesday.)

Below are the notes I wrote on Monday after attending the hearing. One correction: at the hearing, the judge did not actually make any order on either motion, but my understanding was that in the aftermath of the hearing he would issue orders denying the motion to transfer venue and granting the motion to stay (with, as an exception to the stay, an opportunity for SCO to move for a preliminary injunction, and to conduct one round of discovery to attempt to support such an injuction).

No orders have yet been issued, so it's impossible to say *exactly* what they will be. The official minutes of the hearing were written on Wednesday, and are not yet available either, but the heavily abbreviated caption to the minutes is now showing on the court's (subscription-only) docket access site and reads like so:

dtd 7/12/04: CT Recorder: Lilia Abarca De Carter: Re: Hrg on mtn for stay (#10) & mtn to transfer (#9), ORD case is stayed for 90 dys, Ptys will be allowed disc as to issue of prelim injunct. Cnsl directed to prepare ord for CT sign. cpys dist

It appears that the court may be neither officially granting nor denying the venue change at this time. It appears that all the activity contemplated at the hearing (the preliminary injunction process and the submitting of letters every 90 days) will occur in the Nevada district, so my understanding is that the venue change has in effect been denied for now, but the court may revisit it when the stay is lifted, without the motion having to be made again.

Here are my initial notes, posted Monday at finance.messages.yahoo.com

Subject: Venue change denied, stay mostly granted

AutoZone's motion for a change of venue (to Tennessee) was denied. The case will stay in Nevada.

Judge Jones said he will follow Judge Robinson's lead and stay the case indefinitely, like the Red Hat case was, with the parties to send him updates on all the other actions every 90 days.

However, he will give SCO a chance to file a motion for a preliminary injunction to be in effect during the stay, and he will allow one round of discovery to facilitate such a motion.

That is, if SCO believes that it will be irreparably harmed during the stay, it may ask for an order that, during the stay, AutoZone is not to engage in whatever the harmful activity is. SCO will have thirty days to propound any discovery requests (interrogatories, document requests, or depositions) that are necessary for its preliminary injunction motion, and AutoZone will have thirty days to respond to them.

The case will be stayed indefinitely, pending other cases, regardless of the outcome of SCO's request (should it decide to make one) for a preliminary injunction, which would just describe what things (if any) AutoZone needs to refrain from doing until the stay is ended.

AutoZone asked the judge to reconsider the part about the preliminary injunction, pointing out that SCO has never sought a preliminary injunction (which has quite stringent requirements) against anyone, and that it's very difficult to imagine that SCO could show sufficient grounds for a preliminary injunction, because the only thing SCO wants with respect to the infringing conduct i

Yep, it appears to be the same font.

That's true. Computer languages that don't stick close to "regular" human expression are very popular and growing quickly. Languages that resemble written English are dwindling rapidly.

After all, code is meant to be written, not read, and programmers should strive to write such that their work can't be understood by anyone not an expert in the language they're using.

Put another way: as long as I have to fix other people's code, or I want my boss to be able to read my code without me spending an afternoon explaining it to him, I really hope it doesn't look like a string of line noise. English-like constructs may be distracting for some, but they're pretty handy for the rest of us.

I read the story, and when i came across ZERO, it reminded me of a notebook i wrote when i was in 10th grade high school, nearly 200 pages long. I have the book "ZERO". The book sparked my interest in imaginary numbers, but later led my interests into things far beyond what my own brain could handle. first i was curious about the square root of imaginary, and the square root of that, and so on.. until basicaly we're saying Something to the power of zero. i thot it would no longer be a value of any charge, but rather a neutral charge, not positive, not negative, not zero, but neutral. I thot of it to be another Zero, much like zero it'self, but a zero of higher order,. then i thot about an infinity of higher order. Eventually, i almost successfully mapped out the pattern of all symmetry, and i realized there were infinite orders, and infinite sets of those orders,. and there seemed to be possibilities of realities of higher orders and of lower orders, lower orders below that of numbers and charges, or orders lower than dimension(direction) or magnitude, still consisting of value, but not able to be defined by any known algebraic mean. Infinite realities "less real" than our own, and infinite realities "more real" than our own. Yet we are subject to those "lower" realities and to those "higher" realities. But the key to all of it, is within a single singularity, zero!, yet just zero alone already "contains" infinite "tunnels" to far out realities even beyond infinity. Our entire universe can be just a singularity containing infinite possibilities, yet all following simple pattern saying that all equals each other, all is within one point. This brings up a thot i once had, that a blackhole might look like it "dips" into a point where everything is crushed, but that's just from our point of view(ourside the blackhole), but at that singularity of the blackhole actually lies infinite realities. It's like a wormhole to other universes, but yet all equally real to our own also containing blackholes. You might think of the blackholes to be as gateways to either lower or higher sets of realities, and that we ourselves might be contained within one blackhole of a higher reality. I make this sound like we're living in endless Hell. But, this whole idea was born from some math thing i was doing, however, in the end i closed my book and wrote the final conclusion "Anything and Everything is possible, and exists somewhere"--be it just in our minds, which i'm also trying to impress that our minds are just as real as the universe we're in, it's just at a lower or higher order of reality than our own.

I read the story, and when i came across ZERO, it reminded me of a notebook i wrote when i was in 10th grade high school, nearly 200 pages long. I have the book "ZERO". The book sparked my interest in imaginary numbers, but later led my interests into things far beyond what my own brain could handle. first i was curious about the square root of imaginary, and the square root of that, and so on.. until basicaly we're saying Something to the power of zero. i thot it would no longer be a value of any charge, but rather a neutral charge, not positive, not negative, not zero, but neutral. I thot of it to be another Zero, much like zero it'self, but a zero of higher order,. then i thot about an infinity of higher order. Eventually, i almost successfully mapped out the pattern of all symmetry, and i realized there were infinite orders, and infinite sets of those orders,. and there seemed to be possibilities of realities of higher orders and of lower orders, lower orders below that of numbers and charges, or orders lower than dimension(direction) or magnitude, still consisting of value, but not able to be defined by any known algebraic mean. Infinite realities "less real" than our own, and infinite realities "more real" than our own. Yet we are subject to those "lower" realities and to those "higher" realities. But the key to all of it, is within a single singularity, zero!, yet just zero alone already "contains" infinite "tunnels" to far out realities even beyond infinity. Our entire universe can be just a singularity containing infinite possibilities, yet all following simple pattern saying that all equals each other, all is within one point. This brings up a thot i once had, that a blackhole might look like it "dips" into a point where everything is crushed, but that's just from our point of view(ourside the blackhole), but at that singularity of the blackhole actually lies infinite realities. It's like a wormhole to other universes, but yet all equally real to our own also containing blackholes. You might think of the blackholes to be as gateways to either lower or higher sets of realities, and that we ourselves might be contained within one blackhole of a higher reality. I make this sound like we're living in endless Hell. But, this whole idea was born from some math thing i was doing, however, in the end i closed my book and wrote the final conclusion "Anything and Everything is possible, and exists somewhere"--be it just in our minds, which i'm also trying to impress that our minds are just as real as the universe we're in, it's just at a lower or higher order of reality than our own.

Besides, we can easily summarize the next set of SCO stories:
- SCO sues everybody
- Everybody gives SCO the finger
Followed by,
- Everybody gives SCO the finger, in court.

The only way Buffoon's algorithm makes sense is if you actually physically throw the needle. If you just simulate the throw, it becomes ridiculous, as the simulation itself needs knowledge of pi, or of one of its derivatives.

Ok, so they were two years and two days off, and Dubya hit the trifecta.

hey im still paying 50 US a month for my ADSL, but i love my ISP too much, they have so many features, and are so felxibe. My favorite being spamassain and automatic e-mail virus checking.

So i guess i cant really complain, but if this FCC ruiling goes though.. I'm going to be rather unhappy. lets face it, Verzion DSL just sucks.

Hi, this is Greg from Meetup. We are considering merging these two areas together, but will not be able to have our system ready to handle this before this Meetup (tonight). However, we are sending out an email to the Boston members to suggest they attend the North Boston Suburb.

Just FYI, the venue in the North Boston Suburb is:

Gallery Café
5 Cambridge Parkway
Cambridge, MA


Here is a map from the original venue to the new venue:

http://www.users.cloud9.net/~brett/meetup/jilltoga llery.htm

And, here is some additional information about the new venue:

http://www.sonesta.com/boston/mainPage.asp?pageid= 4490

Again, we will be sending an email to all Boston members ASAP to let them know about this change. Have fun tonight!

Greg
greg@meetup.com

How severe was the california engergy crisis?

The truth is that in 1998 there was a 1-in-40 year summer heat wave in california that caused a statewide load of over 60gigawatts at peak times. data: pdf page 4-6, ISO serves %75 of state.

Anybody remember rolling blackouts in summer of '98?

What causes a crisis is stuff like natural gas companies blowing up their own pipelines to create shortages, along with companies like enron with their trading games.

This has been in the works since December of 2000.

Google-returned links to (hologram) images are Here and here.

-Berj

you're thinking of cloud9.net, the nyc-area isp. cloud 9 is stil going strong. check out aol sucks too. (still a cloud 9 page, though now redirects to a different url, dunno if cloud 9 hosts that new domain, too busy to look it up.)

complex

you're thinking of cloud9.net, the nyc-area isp. cloud 9 is stil going strong. check out aol sucks too. (still a cloud 9 page, though now redirects to a different url, dunno if cloud 9 hosts that new domain, too busy to look it up.)

complex

Well, I guess it had a use after all....

Well, use enough to let me buy my first house...:-)

I was an APL consultant for four years, mainly for international IBM shops. It was indeed a wonderful, symbolic, naturally cryptic ( warning: big gif of the non-ASCII charset ) language, delightful to use ( once you really grokked it ) just because of the amazing power of its one-liners...:-)

See this for a commented one-liner that calculates and prints all prime numbers between 1 and a given N, in 17 characters...

I humbly cast my vote on APL... It is a symbolic, naturally cryptic ( warning: big gif of the non-ASCII charset ) language, delightful to use ( once you really grokked it ) just because of the amazing power of its one-liners...:-)

I did, and it ends in an intriguing claim (and demonstration) from Conway that if one stands pennies on their side on a table, and bumps the table, all the pennies will land heads-up. And that if spun, pennies will land 2/3 of the time tails up. (Appropriate physics reasons are given for the surprising behavior.)

I tried this with a sample of 10-20 pennies from my jar and was not able to duplicate the findings. (In the 2 trials I had patience for, I got heads up 2/3 of the time with both table-thumping and coin-spinning.) I'd have done more trials but I was at work, albeit on a dinner break. ;) Has anyone else heard of this or checked it out?

--LP

Or

-*- c-basic-offset: 4; tab-width: 4 -*-

(and whatever the vi equivalent is) and disuse of "text editors" that mangle files. I wouldn't use an editor that omitted vowels while saving, even if it would make writing Unix utilities a lttl smplr.

If you insist on tolerating broken tools, you can always fix it by running a C++ grinder (can indent do the job yet) in cvswrappers.

First of all, I think the problem is that people don't like speeding laws too much. Too bad. Lobby your congressman (here in the U.S. that is).

No thanks, I prefer civil disobedience...