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Re:Tinfoil hats for all
Not only that but all that cold war stuff was a complete waste of time - we are the Soviet Union.
If the US really is the USSR, then that is very unfortunate for you, comrade. Under the terms of Article 58-12 of the Soviet penal code I now have no choice but to denounce you, comrade, for violations of Article 58-10, and possibly Article 58-4 of the Soviet penal code by engaging in libelous propaganda against the glorious achievements of the American revolution by comparing it to what is now a failed state. The normal punishment would be deprivation of liberty for not less than 6 months, but since the United States is currently engaged in combat against the Taliban and al Qaida, it is possible you may be subject to punishment under Article 58-2 for which the punishment is:
the supreme measure of social defense-- shooting, or proclamation as an enemy of the workers, with confiscation or property and with deprivation of citizenship of the union republic, and likewise of citizenship of the Soviet Union and perpetual expulsion beyond the borders of the USSR, with the allowance under extenuating circumstances of reduction to deprivation of liberty for a term of no less than three years, with confiscation of all or part of one's property [6 Jun 1927 (SU No 49, art 330)].
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Re:Tinfoil hats for all
Not only that but all that cold war stuff was a complete waste of time - we are the Soviet Union.
If the US really is the USSR, then that is very unfortunate for you, comrade. Under the terms of Article 58-12 of the Soviet penal code I now have no choice but to denounce you, comrade, for violations of Article 58-10, and possibly Article 58-4 of the Soviet penal code by engaging in libelous propaganda against the glorious achievements of the American revolution by comparing it to what is now a failed state. The normal punishment would be deprivation of liberty for not less than 6 months, but since the United States is currently engaged in combat against the Taliban and al Qaida, it is possible you may be subject to punishment under Article 58-2 for which the punishment is:
the supreme measure of social defense-- shooting, or proclamation as an enemy of the workers, with confiscation or property and with deprivation of citizenship of the union republic, and likewise of citizenship of the Soviet Union and perpetual expulsion beyond the borders of the USSR, with the allowance under extenuating circumstances of reduction to deprivation of liberty for a term of no less than three years, with confiscation of all or part of one's property [6 Jun 1927 (SU No 49, art 330)].
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Re:Tinfoil hats for all
Not only that but all that cold war stuff was a complete waste of time - we are the Soviet Union.
If the US really is the USSR, then that is very unfortunate for you, comrade. Under the terms of Article 58-12 of the Soviet penal code I now have no choice but to denounce you, comrade, for violations of Article 58-10, and possibly Article 58-4 of the Soviet penal code by engaging in libelous propaganda against the glorious achievements of the American revolution by comparing it to what is now a failed state. The normal punishment would be deprivation of liberty for not less than 6 months, but since the United States is currently engaged in combat against the Taliban and al Qaida, it is possible you may be subject to punishment under Article 58-2 for which the punishment is:
the supreme measure of social defense-- shooting, or proclamation as an enemy of the workers, with confiscation or property and with deprivation of citizenship of the union republic, and likewise of citizenship of the Soviet Union and perpetual expulsion beyond the borders of the USSR, with the allowance under extenuating circumstances of reduction to deprivation of liberty for a term of no less than three years, with confiscation of all or part of one's property [6 Jun 1927 (SU No 49, art 330)].
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Re:Tinfoil hats for all
Not only that but all that cold war stuff was a complete waste of time - we are the Soviet Union.
If the US really is the USSR, then that is very unfortunate for you, comrade. Under the terms of Article 58-12 of the Soviet penal code I now have no choice but to denounce you, comrade, for violations of Article 58-10, and possibly Article 58-4 of the Soviet penal code by engaging in libelous propaganda against the glorious achievements of the American revolution by comparing it to what is now a failed state. The normal punishment would be deprivation of liberty for not less than 6 months, but since the United States is currently engaged in combat against the Taliban and al Qaida, it is possible you may be subject to punishment under Article 58-2 for which the punishment is:
the supreme measure of social defense-- shooting, or proclamation as an enemy of the workers, with confiscation or property and with deprivation of citizenship of the union republic, and likewise of citizenship of the Soviet Union and perpetual expulsion beyond the borders of the USSR, with the allowance under extenuating circumstances of reduction to deprivation of liberty for a term of no less than three years, with confiscation of all or part of one's property [6 Jun 1927 (SU No 49, art 330)].
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Re:Amusing. Americans think the enemy is over ther
On May 2nd, 1933, the day after Labor day, Nazi groups occupied union halls and labor leaders were arrested. Trade Unions were outlawed by Adolf Hitler, while collective bargaining and the right to strike was abolished.
Lenin, at the behest of Stalin and Trotsky, banned trade unions in favor of "total government union." Stalin followed this up by increasingly draconian laws that docked a worker 25% of a day's pay for being a mere 20 minutes late to work, and imposed prison sentences for anyone who attempted to quit their assigned job.
Chairman Mao eliminated trade unions, in a move very reminiscent of Stalin. More recently, China created the "All China Federation of Trade Unions", a front organization whose primary purpose is to serve as an enforcement arm of the Chinese Communist Party. No actual trade unions or labor bargaining are allowed to exist.
In 2011, in multiple states in the US, the Republican Party... abolished unions.
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Re:Self invoked Godwin's....A bunch of little Pavlik Morozovs:
Pavlik Morozov, supposedly killed by "kulak" relatives for denouncing his father to Stalin's secret police (OGPU-NKVD), was adopted as a patron saint by the "Young Pioneers," the Soviet equivalent to the "Boy Scouts." His life exemplified the duty of all good Soviet citizens to become informers, even at the expense of family ties.
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Article 58 I mean patriotism
Just replace Anti-Soviet and Counter-Revolutionary with the word Terrorist and you'll get something that is uncannily similar to this:
ASA - Anti-Soviet Agitation.
KRD - Counter-Revolutionary Activity.
KRTD - Counter-Revolutionary Trotskyite Activity (And that T made the life of a zek in camp much harder.)
PSh - Suspicion of Espionage (Espionage that went beyond the bounds of suspicion was handed over to a tribunal.)
SVPSh - Contacts leading (!) to Suspicion of Espionage.
KRM - Counter-Revolutionary Thought.
VAS - Dissemination of Anti-Soviet Sentiments.
SOE - Socially Dangerous Element.
SVE - Socially Harmful Element.
PD - Criminal Activity (a favourite accusation against former camp inmates if there was nothing else to be used against them)
Chs - Member of a Family (of a person convicted under one of the foregoing "letter" categories)
* n.b. the abbreviations may not match up with the descriptions because they are acronyms for russian words.
The above list was taken from Solzhenitsyn's study on the Gulag. They were criminal codes (mainly Article 58) used by the soviets as reasons to send people the off to the Gulag. Note that the first two (ASA and KRD) were used very liberally, for example, some engineers were warning that a particular railway system was not going to work. They were slammed with KRD and tossed in the Gulag. Later on the system failed as they had warned. They were brought out to fix it but put back as soon in when it was done.
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Re:I'm sort of working on this same problem.
The big thing here is, you have to stop worrying about the student and users rights.
The big thing here is, you have to stop worrying about users' rights. Some users are terrorists, some are Communists, some are dissidents, some are Revanchists, some are Homosexuals, some are Jews.
These people are Enemies of State, and their activities must be tracked -- minutely tracked -- so that we can learn what other Anti-Social Counter-Revolutionaries these traitors to the Motherland are collaborating with.
Then we can remove all these Dissident Intellectual Cosmopolitan Terrorists to the Gulag, or KZ Dachau, or to Guantanamo -- or Manzanar -- because it has happened here.
I'm sure there were some honorable men working at I.G. Farben who never dreamed that Zyklon-B would be used as anything other than an insecticide.
And the grandparent poster I'm sure never built his network tools to suppress political dissent or to accumulate evidence of users' sexual proclivities. Bit I'll bet these uses have occurred to Admiral Poindexter.
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Re:In Soviet Russia
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Cold WarsYou are absolutely correct, but Stalin in the thirties was already feeling insecure and taking desparate measures to keep the USSR from fragmenting and the resistance to his land reform program (which caused the death of millions from starvation). He was less concerned about western influences after the twenties as it was already difficult to enter the USSR uninvited or to travel outside. Krawtchouk being a nationalist Ukrainian, was extremly lucky not to be immediately shot. In any case, Stalin disliked intellectuals, hence the Doctor's "plot" in 1953, and killing off the officer corps which almost led to the defeat of the Russian Army in the Winter War against Finland.
Churchill's famous speech referred to the effective extension of Soviet borders to that of the European countries under their influence after the war.
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Re:Huh?
Why in the world did East Germany have the word "democratic" in its official name? Isn't North Korea called the Democratic Republic of Korea? Makes no sense to me. Anyone know why a dictatorships and a puppet government would think they're democratic?
It's old-line Communist terminology. They consider(ed) themselves "democratic" because Communism is a "dictatorship of the proletariat".
The tip-off is the formula "Democratic Republic", sometimes prefixed with "Peoples": "Peoples Democratic Republic of [Region, Language Group, State Name]. This is a standard Communist namiong convention. Where it originated, I'm not sure.
It's meant also, I think, to pointedly imply that they're the "opposite" of "fascists", another term with a lot of baggage attached. Communists (Soviets and their fellow travellers worldwide, especially Comintern) used "Fascist" as a broad brush with which to stain any rightist opponents, from actual Fascists (Nazis, Falangists, etc.) to moderates.
Communist terminology can be fascinating. Words and phrases acquired specific connotations, and so indicated to Communist Party members what their opinion should be, without the embarrasement of having to inquire what the current Party line was. Examples include "[rootless] cosmopolitan", a code-word for "Jewish", "social-fascist" for a moderate leftist, "internationalism" for doing what the Sovets wanted, the self-explanatory "enemy of the people", and the Chinese, not Soviet, but always fun "running dog".
See http://www.cyberussr.com/rus/insults.html#rootless for a longer list.
Terminology used by Communists also tended to move in lock-step, because Communist parties worldwide in the twentieth century tended to be regimented and tighly controlled, ultimately by Comintern and the USSR.
This was espcially important in the 1930s through '50s, as Soviet (and thus worldwide Communist) policy went through dizzyingly swift changes over the course of Stalin's purges, the Hitler-Stalin pact, Hitler's invasion of Russia, and then the Cold War.
A good (and suprising, to me) example of the swift policy changes is evident on the Pete Seeger's CD "Pioneer of Folk". The CD, released in 1999, is a compilation of Seeger's songs of the early 1940s, and opens with "Round And Round Hitler's Grave", in which the singer strongly advocates fighting Germany. But halfway through the CD are the songs "Washington Breakdown", and "C for Conscription" in which Seeger roundly criticizes Franklin Roosevelt for wanting to engage the US in the European war. Sandwiched in between these two songs is "Dear Mr. President", in which Seeger reads an open letter to Rooselvelt, acknowledging to past differences, enumerating a number of progressive issues Seeger feels need addressing, but asserting that Hitler won't solve anybody's problems. In the meantime, of course, Hitler had abrogated his pact with Stalin and invaded Russia, and Communist policy had reversed itself.