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Just do a search in the source of http://www.cia.gov/ for the word 'Plone' you will see it. They've been using it for at least the past 6 years now.

Ditto http://www.fbi.gov/

Plone's security is one of its major plus points compared to the myriad of PHP systems.

-Matt

When I interpret this correctly you have around 9000 gun murders, while only 1800 knife murders, blunt objects only around 600.

Norway. And I think I can safely say that our police is different than the police in USA. They're normally not armed, and need a special permit to arm themselves. In some of the more violent areas they have guns in the car, but it's locked down, and they need a confirmation from HQ to be able to use them.

A cop being stabbed, or even hurt at all when on duty is fairly rare here, and tend to hit the top 5 news cases for the day. If someone dies on duty, it's several weeks of news about it, detailed investigation, and so forth.

I was curious, so... According to the wikipedia page (I know, I know), 23 Norwegian police officers have been killed in the line of duty since WWII (both killed by criminals and accidents). 23 in 65 years is a rate of 0.35 per year.

Norway has a population of 4.6 million in 2008. The U.S. has a population of approx 305 million. A 66:1 ratio. Norway has a police force of approx 11,000. The U.S. had a police force of approx 970,000 or 675,000 in 2004, depending on how you define "police officer". Scale this up for the change in population (278 -> 307 million) and you get 1.06 million or 741,000 in 2008. That's a ratio of 96:1 or 67:1 compared to Norway.

Police officer fatalities in the U.S. vary year by year, but the FBI posts the statistics online. In the 10 years spanning 1999-2008, an average of 53 officers per year were killed feloniously while an average of 75 officers per year were killed in accidents. Plugging these rates into the above population sizes yields:

3.2 per 100,000 per year - Norway police total fatality rate (felonious + accident)
5 ~ 7.2 per 100,000 per year - U.S. police felonious fatality rate
7.1 ~ 10.1 per 100,000 per year - U.S. police accident fatality rate
12 ~ 17.3 per 100,000 per year - U.S. police fatality rate

Two things to note:
1) The overall police fatality rate in the U.S. is only about 5x higher than Norway's. The reason a police officer being killed in Norway is big news is simply because Norway has a small population.
2) The U.S. police fatality rate due to accidents alone is over 2-3x that of Norway's. The vast majority were killed in auto accidents. Clearly there is something else going on here than just police being armed with firearms or not.

Norway. And I think I can safely say that our police is different than the police in USA. They're normally not armed, and need a special permit to arm themselves. In some of the more violent areas they have guns in the car, but it's locked down, and they need a confirmation from HQ to be able to use them.

A cop being stabbed, or even hurt at all when on duty is fairly rare here, and tend to hit the top 5 news cases for the day. If someone dies on duty, it's several weeks of news about it, detailed investigation, and so forth.

I was curious, so... According to the wikipedia page (I know, I know), 23 Norwegian police officers have been killed in the line of duty since WWII (both killed by criminals and accidents). 23 in 65 years is a rate of 0.35 per year.

Norway has a population of 4.6 million in 2008. The U.S. has a population of approx 305 million. A 66:1 ratio. Norway has a police force of approx 11,000. The U.S. had a police force of approx 970,000 or 675,000 in 2004, depending on how you define "police officer". Scale this up for the change in population (278 -> 307 million) and you get 1.06 million or 741,000 in 2008. That's a ratio of 96:1 or 67:1 compared to Norway.

Police officer fatalities in the U.S. vary year by year, but the FBI posts the statistics online. In the 10 years spanning 1999-2008, an average of 53 officers per year were killed feloniously while an average of 75 officers per year were killed in accidents. Plugging these rates into the above population sizes yields:

3.2 per 100,000 per year - Norway police total fatality rate (felonious + accident)
5 ~ 7.2 per 100,000 per year - U.S. police felonious fatality rate
7.1 ~ 10.1 per 100,000 per year - U.S. police accident fatality rate
12 ~ 17.3 per 100,000 per year - U.S. police fatality rate

Two things to note:
1) The overall police fatality rate in the U.S. is only about 5x higher than Norway's. The reason a police officer being killed in Norway is big news is simply because Norway has a small population.
2) The U.S. police fatality rate due to accidents alone is over 2-3x that of Norway's. The vast majority were killed in auto accidents. Clearly there is something else going on here than just police being armed with firearms or not.

Norway. And I think I can safely say that our police is different than the police in USA. They're normally not armed, and need a special permit to arm themselves. In some of the more violent areas they have guns in the car, but it's locked down, and they need a confirmation from HQ to be able to use them.

A cop being stabbed, or even hurt at all when on duty is fairly rare here, and tend to hit the top 5 news cases for the day. If someone dies on duty, it's several weeks of news about it, detailed investigation, and so forth.

I was curious, so... According to the wikipedia page (I know, I know), 23 Norwegian police officers have been killed in the line of duty since WWII (both killed by criminals and accidents). 23 in 65 years is a rate of 0.35 per year.

Norway has a population of 4.6 million in 2008. The U.S. has a population of approx 305 million. A 66:1 ratio. Norway has a police force of approx 11,000. The U.S. had a police force of approx 970,000 or 675,000 in 2004, depending on how you define "police officer". Scale this up for the change in population (278 -> 307 million) and you get 1.06 million or 741,000 in 2008. That's a ratio of 96:1 or 67:1 compared to Norway.

Police officer fatalities in the U.S. vary year by year, but the FBI posts the statistics online. In the 10 years spanning 1999-2008, an average of 53 officers per year were killed feloniously while an average of 75 officers per year were killed in accidents. Plugging these rates into the above population sizes yields:

3.2 per 100,000 per year - Norway police total fatality rate (felonious + accident)
5 ~ 7.2 per 100,000 per year - U.S. police felonious fatality rate
7.1 ~ 10.1 per 100,000 per year - U.S. police accident fatality rate
12 ~ 17.3 per 100,000 per year - U.S. police fatality rate

Two things to note:
1) The overall police fatality rate in the U.S. is only about 5x higher than Norway's. The reason a police officer being killed in Norway is big news is simply because Norway has a small population.
2) The U.S. police fatality rate due to accidents alone is over 2-3x that of Norway's. The vast majority were killed in auto accidents. Clearly there is something else going on here than just police being armed with firearms or not.

Norway. And I think I can safely say that our police is different than the police in USA. They're normally not armed, and need a special permit to arm themselves. In some of the more violent areas they have guns in the car, but it's locked down, and they need a confirmation from HQ to be able to use them.

A cop being stabbed, or even hurt at all when on duty is fairly rare here, and tend to hit the top 5 news cases for the day. If someone dies on duty, it's several weeks of news about it, detailed investigation, and so forth.

I was curious, so... According to the wikipedia page (I know, I know), 23 Norwegian police officers have been killed in the line of duty since WWII (both killed by criminals and accidents). 23 in 65 years is a rate of 0.35 per year.

Norway has a population of 4.6 million in 2008. The U.S. has a population of approx 305 million. A 66:1 ratio. Norway has a police force of approx 11,000. The U.S. had a police force of approx 970,000 or 675,000 in 2004, depending on how you define "police officer". Scale this up for the change in population (278 -> 307 million) and you get 1.06 million or 741,000 in 2008. That's a ratio of 96:1 or 67:1 compared to Norway.

Police officer fatalities in the U.S. vary year by year, but the FBI posts the statistics online. In the 10 years spanning 1999-2008, an average of 53 officers per year were killed feloniously while an average of 75 officers per year were killed in accidents. Plugging these rates into the above population sizes yields:

3.2 per 100,000 per year - Norway police total fatality rate (felonious + accident)
5 ~ 7.2 per 100,000 per year - U.S. police felonious fatality rate
7.1 ~ 10.1 per 100,000 per year - U.S. police accident fatality rate
12 ~ 17.3 per 100,000 per year - U.S. police fatality rate

Two things to note:
1) The overall police fatality rate in the U.S. is only about 5x higher than Norway's. The reason a police officer being killed in Norway is big news is simply because Norway has a small population.
2) The U.S. police fatality rate due to accidents alone is over 2-3x that of Norway's. The vast majority were killed in auto accidents. Clearly there is something else going on here than just police being armed with firearms or not.

The military of the future may not need to put lives on the front-lines. I think we're seeing a glimpse of that with the air drones that are taking out terrorists via rockets.

Suspected terrorists.

Until they're tried and convicted, they are suspected terrorists. Granted, there is probably not solid evidence to convict them (and it's expensive to capture and detain them) even if they do blow up girl-schools, which is why it's convenient to just label them terrorists and killing them. Just look at the FBI's info on Osama Bin Laden. Not a word about the attacks on the Pentagon or the World Trade Center, so even if he were to walk into an FBI office tomorrow, I doubt they'd put him on trial for it.

But imagine the outcry, if China decided to something similar in the EU or US. It'd be bad enough if they shot people they called terrorists, but imagine if they launched missiles at cars in traffic and housing blocks to take out a "bad guy"?

"Now you're talking values that make a few years of jail time worth it"

The FBI is charging the Swede and the Ukrainian with 24 counts of wire fraud and Reno (from Ohio) with 12 counts. According to the FBI press release (http://chicago.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/pressrel10/cg052710.htm),

"Each count of wire fraud carries a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison and a $250,000 fine and restitution is mandatory"

and

"The indictment also seeks forfeiture of approximately $100 million and any and all funds held in a bank account in Kiev"

. Now if convicted they will probably not receive the maximum sentence but they will probably be in prison for a very long time.

18 U.S.C. 2154 : US Code - Section 2154: Production of defective war material, war premises, or war utilities

Whoever, when the United States is at war, or in times of national emergency as declared by the President or by the Congress, with intent to injure, interfere with, or obstruct the United States or any associate nation in preparing for or carrying on the war or defense activities, or, with reason to believe that his act may injure, interfere with, or obstruct the United States or any associate nation in preparing for or carrying on the war or defense activities, willfully makes, constructs, or causes to be made or constructed in a defective manner, or attempts to make, construct, or cause to be made or constructed in a defective manner any war material, war premises or war utilities, or any tool, implement, machine, utensil, or receptacle used or employed in making, producing, manufacturing, or repairing any such war material, war premises or war utilities, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than thirty years, or both.

Those guys are getting light sentences. The FBI is treating this as a counterfeiting problem, not as sabotaging the war effort.

There was time when police officers let drunk drivers continue to drive because "the car knows where its going."

Society has changed. People used to respect police officers, and the risk to an officer used to be much lower.

I was curious about your statement, and checked a bit: It is plain wrong, at least for the last 35+ years. The relevant statistics are published by the FBI here: http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/ucr.htm

The data is unfortunately varyingly formatted; here's a sample showing progress (from 1995 to 2004): http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/killed/2004/table1.htm

Here's another one covering 1998 to 2008 (which is the last data point): http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/killed/2008/data/table_01.html

Pulling out the data from the 1996 through 2008 descriptions, I created a table of "Felonious killings of police officers" covering 1987 to 2008:

1987 74
1988 78
1989 66
1990 66
1991 71
1992 63
1993 70
1994 79
1995 74
1996 61
1997 70
1998 61
1999 42
2000 51
2001 70
2002 56
2003 52
2004 57
2005 55
2006 48
2007 58
2008 41

As you can see, a slow progression to lower risk for police officers, with about half as high risk today as it used to be (but with
  How about assault, then?

1987 16.8 assaults per 100 police officers (from table 31 of the 1996 paper)
1988 15.9 assaults per 100 police officers
1989 16.4 assaults per 100 police officers
1990 17.4 assaults per 100 police officers
1991 15.5 assaults per 100 police officers
1992 17.6 assaults per 100 police officers
1993 14.7 assaults per 100 police officers
1994 13.5 assaults per 100 police officers
1995 13.5 assaults per 100 police officers
1996: 12.5 assaults per 100 police officers, 4.0 assaults with injury
2001: 12.2 assaults per 100 police officers, 3.5 assaults with injury
2008: 11.3 assaults per 100 police officers, 3.0 assaults with injury

So, from the early 1990s we seem to have had a clean decline in assaults, too.

This change is what is sad, not my attitude regarding the realization of how the world currently works. It is sad that officers have to resort to pepper spray or tasers because these cause less harm than beating someone senseless as a safety precaution.

How exactly have you not accepted this (willingly or begrudgingly)?

How exactly have you not accepted that you have to actually check your prejudices, and can't just make up of how the world is (willingly or begrudgingly)?

A gut feeling isn't an argument. Most often, when it comes to societal questions from somebody that hasn't studied societal statistics, the gut feeling is wrong. I hope you've just learned that you can't trust yours, and shouldn't use it to decide how to do societal development until you've checked it against the statistics.

If Christians had said that it messed up sunrise services for Easter would you have been respecting their position too?

Mass transit authorities put trains under cemeteries all the time, why should these guys be any different?

Oh and they have really good leadership too
http://boston.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/pressrel09/campaignviolations021109.htm

"In February 2009 Mashpee Wampanoag Tribe chairman Glenn A. Marshall pleaded guilty to federal charges of violations of campaign finance law, tax fraud, wire fraud, and Social Security fraud – all in connection with the effort to secure federal recognition for the tribe."

I actually took the time to read the final fbi report This guy was mentally unstable well before the attacks, he was obsessed with some sorrority, with female co-workers, and was quite openly discussing his mental illness with co-workers. (why he was still in charge of antrax - astonishes me) The most interesting part is the new science that came out of the investigation (some kind of new dna sequencing method) either way, this guy was nuts before the fbi got involved (imho)

Intel's SSDs are made in the USA with Micron....

And...?

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 17, 2003 WWW.USDOJ.GOV WASHINGTON, D.C. -- An executive for Micron Technology Inc. (Micron) has agreed to plead guilty to obstructing the grand jury investigation of a suspected conspiracy to fix the price of dynamic random access memory (DRAM) products sold in the United States, the Department of Justice today announced.

http://www.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/pressrel03/micron121703.htm

Yes, because the inconvenience of mashing the 'delete" key a few times is exactly comparable to the inconvenience of having a family member kidnapped and held against their will. Why not involve the FBI in the fight against SPAM, it's not like they have anything better to do.....

Yes, because the inconvenience of mashing the 'delete" key a few times is exactly comparable to the inconvenience of having a family member kidnapped and held against their will. Why not involve the FBI in the fight against SPAM, it's not like they have anything better to do.....

Yes, because the inconvenience of mashing the 'delete" key a few times is exactly comparable to the inconvenience of having a family member kidnapped and held against their will. Why not involve the FBI in the fight against SPAM, it's not like they have anything better to do.....

Yes, because the inconvenience of mashing the 'delete" key a few times is exactly comparable to the inconvenience of having a family member kidnapped and held against their will. Why not involve the FBI in the fight against SPAM, it's not like they have anything better to do.....

Similar arguments were made by the Ptolemaic churches attempting to discredit Aristotle.

The UK acknowledges the phenomenon: Ministry of Defense
So does Mexico
oh, and so does the FBI
and the CIA.

UFO's are not just some hoojum bullshit. There is a serious phenomena of unexplained activity/objects, and rigorous scientific endeavor would get much more credibility if this area was at least explored from a rational and logical standpoint in educational institutions without all the hooting and hollering, even if what we discover is against our rational and logical assumptions.

and if your really interested, check out the NASA video of the STS-75 incident. Watch the video, and then read what NASA conveniently doesn't discuss.

They have a personal vested interest in preserving it, and there's less of a chance of it being stolen (not on public display).

The last big-time gallery heist in the U.S. was in 1990.

On March 18, 1990, the Gardner Museum was robbed by two unknown white males dressed in police uniforms and identifying themselves a Boston police officers. The unknown subjects gained entrance into the museum by advising on-duty security personnel that they were responding to a call of a disturbance within the compound. Security, contrary to museum regulations, allowed the unknown subjects into the facility.
Upon gaining entry, the two unknown subjects abducted the on duty security personnel, securing both guards with duct tape and handcuffs in separate remote areas of the museum's basement. The unknown subjects brandished no weapons, nor were any weapons seen during this heist. Other than a "panic" button located behind the guards' watch desk area, the museum alarm system was internally only. Since the panic button was not activated, no actual police notification was made during the robbery. The video surveillance film was seized by the unknown subjects prior to their departure.

No arrests and no recovery. The take around $300 million. Robbery of priceless works of art from the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum, 2 Palace Road, Boston, Massachusetts, March 18, 1990.

The FBI maintains the National Stolen Art File. which is directly accessible to law enforcement agencies only.

The object must be uniquely identifiable and have historical or artistic significance. This includes fine arts, decorative arts, antiquities, Asian art, Islamic art, Native American art, ethnographic objects, archaeological material, textiles, books and manuscripts, clocks and watches, coins, stamps, musical instruments, and scientific instruments.
The object must be valued at least $2,000; or less if associated with a major crime

The FBI art theft team has about a dozen full time agents.

They have a personal vested interest in preserving it, and there's less of a chance of it being stolen (not on public display).

The last big-time gallery heist in the U.S. was in 1990.

On March 18, 1990, the Gardner Museum was robbed by two unknown white males dressed in police uniforms and identifying themselves a Boston police officers. The unknown subjects gained entrance into the museum by advising on-duty security personnel that they were responding to a call of a disturbance within the compound. Security, contrary to museum regulations, allowed the unknown subjects into the facility.
Upon gaining entry, the two unknown subjects abducted the on duty security personnel, securing both guards with duct tape and handcuffs in separate remote areas of the museum's basement. The unknown subjects brandished no weapons, nor were any weapons seen during this heist. Other than a "panic" button located behind the guards' watch desk area, the museum alarm system was internally only. Since the panic button was not activated, no actual police notification was made during the robbery. The video surveillance film was seized by the unknown subjects prior to their departure.

No arrests and no recovery. The take around $300 million. Robbery of priceless works of art from the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum, 2 Palace Road, Boston, Massachusetts, March 18, 1990.

The FBI maintains the National Stolen Art File. which is directly accessible to law enforcement agencies only.

The object must be uniquely identifiable and have historical or artistic significance. This includes fine arts, decorative arts, antiquities, Asian art, Islamic art, Native American art, ethnographic objects, archaeological material, textiles, books and manuscripts, clocks and watches, coins, stamps, musical instruments, and scientific instruments.
The object must be valued at least $2,000; or less if associated with a major crime

The FBI art theft team has about a dozen full time agents.

Really? Then why does the FBI deploy overseas?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fbi

"More than 50 international offices called "legal attachés" are in U.S. embassies worldwide."

http://www.fbi.gov/libref/factsfigure/counterterrorism.htm

"The FBI quickly deployed over 100 Agents from the Counterterrorism Division, the Laboratory, and various field offices to Aden."

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/may/28/nation/na-fbi28

Sure, they won't arrest overseas, they'll get a foreign government to take them into custody and then hand them over, but it remains that the FBI runs around the world arresting folks.

Why should "corporate and government security geeks" be especially worried about 1950's technology ?

Hollow Nickel, Hidden Agent

What’s a nickel worth?

No, it’s not a riddle. It’s a case straight from the pages of FBI history.

It all started in June 1953, when a Brooklyn newspaper boy picked up a nickel he’d just dropped. Almost like magic, the coin split in half. And inside was a tiny photograph, showing a series of numbers too small to read.

Even if the boy kept up with the front page news on the papers he delivered, he probably never would have guessed that this extraordinary coin was the product of one of the most vital national security issues of the day: the growing Cold War between the world’s two nuclear powers, the U.S. and the Soviet Union.

The coin ultimately made its way to the FBI, which opened a counterintelligence case, knowing the coin suggested there was an active spy in New York City. But who?

New York agents quickly began working to trace the hollow nickel. They talked to the ladies who passed the nickel on to the delivery boy, with no success. They talked to local novelty store owners, but none had seen anything like it. A lot of shoe leather was ruined, but no hot leads emerged.

Meanwhile, the coin itself underwent expert examination. FBI Lab scientists in Washington pored over it. They immediately realized the photograph contained a coded message, but they couldn’t crack it. The coin did yield clues, however. The type-print, Lab experts concluded, must have come from a foreign typewriter. Metallurgy showed that the back half was from a coin minted during World War II. Ultimately, the coin was filed away, but not forgotten.

The key break came four years later, when a Russian spy named Reino Hayhanen defected to the United States. Hayhanen—really the American born Eugene Maki—shared all kinds of secrets on Soviet spies. He led FBI agents to one out-of-the-way hiding place, called a “dead drop,” where FBI agents found a hollowed-out bolt with a typewritten message inside. When asked about it, Hayhanen said the Soviets had given him all kinds of hollowed-out objects: pens, screws, batteries, even coins. He turned over one such coin, which instantly reminded agents of the Brooklyn nickel. The link was made.

From there, Hayhanen put investigators on the trail of his case officer, a Soviet spy named “Mark” who was operating without diplomatic cover and under several false identities.

After painstaking detective work, agents figured out that “Mark” was really William Fisher, aka Rudolf Abel, who was arrested on June 21, 1957. Though Abel refused to talk, his hotel room and office revealed an important prize: a treasure trove of modern espionage equipment.

Abel was eventually convicted of espionage and sentenced to a long jail term. In 1962, he was exchanged for American U-2 pilot Francis Gary Powers, who had been shot down over the U.S.S.R. and held prisoner there.

In the end, a nickel was worth a great deal: the capture of a Soviet spy and the protection of a nation.

Link: http://www.fbi.gov/fbihistorybook.htm

My guess is that the government doesn't publish the statistics because

No, it's an institutional bias at the FBI that dates back to J. Edgar Hoover. The FBI's Uniform Crime Reports hugely underestimate white collar crime. Violent crime is tallied based on police reports, regardless of whether anyone is arrested. White collar crime is tallied based on arrests. Scams with large numbers of victims who didn't lose much each don't get tallied at all.

In dollar volume, white collar fraud dwarfs all other categories. Losses from the Madoff scam, or the Enron scam, were each greater than an entire century or so of physical bank robberies.

Robbery is a dying industry, anyway. Breaking into houses is almost obsolete. What's worth stealing? Nobody has silver any more. Used consumer electronics has zero to negative value. Any TV worth stealing is too big to lift. Used furniture is nearly worthless. Few people keep much cash around. Auto theft is at a 20-year low - between OnStar and LoJack, stealing cars as a career doesn't work for long.

i don't disagree with you, i was just revamping the old canard about robbing banks.

http://www.fbi.gov/libref/historic/famcases/sutton/sutton.htm

In the US, anyway, it is closely related to "hate crimes" which are structured in a way such that the only victims are non-whites and the only perpetrators are white males.

You are downright wrong about this. Of the 9,691 recorded hate crime victims in the US in 2008, only about half were targeted for their race. Of the racial victims, 16.8% were singled out because they were white. source

It is much more rare that I see stories about the actual pornographers being caught and while the viewers are certainly depraved (and you can argue that by consuming the child porn, they encourage those who make it), aren't the pornographers the ones we would rather catch? It wouldn't surprise me if the amount of children actually being forced into child porn is VERY small since the already existing library of images probably contains enough to keep the perverts trading for a long time.

You'd think the entire pornography industry would just fold up. After all, there's enough existing images out there that there's just no need to produce more. Yet... oddly enough... the cameras roll on. Go figure.

And you'd think that when they bust big child porn rings, they'd make a big deal about it. While individuals caught with child pornography tend to be ranked as local news. You know - if they were really after the pornographers and not just the individual consumers.

The FBI has apprehended the individuals responsible for the Pushdo botnet, but because the said individuals are minors, we have decided to file no charges if the said individuals apologized to everyone who had been negatively affected by the Pushdo botnet. Unfortunately, due to a typo, the said individuals issued a botnet command that is causing the botnet computers to keep trying to POST the following apology to the SSL port:

POST / HTTP/1.0
Referer: http://ir902.detention.fbi.gov/
User-Agent: PushDo/1.0.1
Accept: */*
Content-type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded
Content-length: 1337

apology=We+apologize+for+any+inconvenience+our+childish+Pushdo+botnet+experiment+may+have+caused you.+Sincerely,+Billy+Pushman+and+Jimmy+Doe.

Why claim a $500 reward when you can exploit and steal more?

Because that is illegal... the idea of this project is to get honest security researchers incentives to find bugs so that the people who would exploit them, cannot.

People keep saying this, but it ain't illegal at all. Show me the law.

Exploiting computers and stealing aren't illegal you say?

Links to a number of laws: http://www.cybercrime.gov/cclaws.html

More sources of reading pleasure:

http://www.cybercrime.gov/cc.html
http://www.ustreas.gov/usss/financial_crimes.shtml#Computer
http://www.fbi.gov/cyberinvest/cyberhome.htm
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/nij/topics/technology/electronic-crime/welcome.htm

And in case the .gov websites aren't legit enough for you, there is always wikipedia ;}
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_crime

Oh, and as for stealing not being illegal, you are wrong there too.

http://public.leginfo.state.ny.us/menugetf.cgi?COMMONQUERY=LAWS

Go to that link, scroll down to "PEN" for penal laws and click, then go down to section 155 on Larceny.
(Their site sucks and uses javascript for navigation, so I can't directly link. Bastards :} )

You can look up your own state laws similar (Under penal law, for the crime larceny)

Just to head off the inevitable "But I don't live in the US so everything you said doesn't matter", the answer is "no, it does, you are wrong."
Google is in the US, so is bound by US laws, which is the topic of conversation in this thread.
(Granted, California state laws for theft and not New York, but that was the link I had handy, they are all basically the same except for some minor details, and it was painful enough looking up anything on the NY site as it is :/ )

I bet 80% of .gov sites also don't have properly setup DNS, let alone DNSSEC.

eg. Try going to http://fbi.gov

Without the proper CNAME record you need to type "www" before the hostname. Silly.

It was only when a retired FBI metallurgist did testing by himself that he proved that the technique was useless. Then the NSF did a study and found the same result, and the FBI stopped using this test. http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel05/bullet_lead_analysis.htm [fbi.gov]

Now the FBI has a secret data base that they use to claim that people are guilty. They will not release the data for independent verification of their results. Do you really think that they can be trusted one more time?

Cool link. Naked statistics are almost useless, though.
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2007/data/table_08_ca.html
San Francisco, CA: Population, 740k. One hundred murders. Daly City, the first suburb south of SF: 100k people, ZERO murders.

I'm not saying the US is perfect, but throwing out one statistic does not make England an island paradise and Georgia a guncrazy anarchy. It's possible that there are other factors involved.

OK, so instead of looking at the 129 murders in the city of Atlanta in 2007 let's look at the 458 murders in the whole metropolitan area that year.

Of course Atlanta now doesn't look 17 times as bad as London, only 3.5 times as bad. (Or almost 5 times if we take into account the differences in population using the estimates that you provided).

So even though the "17 times" figure was overblown, the main point of the GP still holds: the GGP is full of shit, because murder rates in Atlanta are several times higher than in London.

Murders rates for the most recent year I could find.

Atlanta: 129

[1]

London: 130

[2]
 

So after regression analysis, you've shaken the statistical tree to discover the only difference between the two cities is gun laws and population? Remarkable.

Seriously? You are trying to compare a city of 500,000 with a city of 8.5million? Well, still it fails. Yes, the situation in America really is that bad.

Murders rates for the most recent year I could find.
Atlanta: 129
[1]
London: 130
[2]

Yes, that's right, a city with 17 times the population has the same number of murders in a year. That's 17 times lower murder per capita. And the rates for murder are highest in London, they are practically zero elsewhere in the country. It's the same in any other civilised nation where the gun lobby doesn't have control of the legislature and gun laws are actually somewhat sensible.

The only thing that will save us from terrorists is to refuse to be terrorized. When we go through all this bullshit, giving up our liberties, conviniences, travel, the terrorists win.

It's just more security theater. There are a whole lot of ways to kill large numbers of people, and no way to protect all of them.

Why are you so afraid of terrorists when only 3,000 people have died from terrorism in the US this century, while there are five times as many Americans murdered every single year in non-terrorist murders?

Murder is murder, why should political murder scare you more than some thug doing a drive-by shooting?

I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) wants to be able to serve other types of administrative subpoenas.

From FBI Director Muller's testimony before Congress. It didn't work; Congress said no.

"This is a common myth. Police officers are *rarely* killed on the job. And border guards? I'm sure it must happen, but it seems it must be exceptionally rare in their case. But somehow that's given as an excuse when they beat the shit out of someone for *daring* to ask a question."

Its common enough that they are on guard against being attacked.

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/killed/2007/federalofficers.html

67 of the 1,650 federal officers assaulted in 2007 were on patrol or guard duty when they were assaulted.

As for your wife, she could easily defeat an attacker. A screaming woman will actually stop most attackers,

That is just plain stupid. By claiming that screaming will easily defeat an attacker, you are claiming that all the 90 thousands some odd rapes a year were not violent crimes, but in fact totally legal consensual sex. You are one sick puppy.

You claim that it's hard to hide but the FBI's statistics show that about 20% of the MURDERERS got away with it in 2008. Sure, they solve a "Cold Case" from time to time but you probably won't get caught if you can survive the "First 48".

The about 20% comes from the FBI's claim that there were 16,272 murders and 12,955 arrests in 2008.
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2008/index.html

Do you consider rape a violent crime? Fairbanks has 4.5 times the national rate of forcible rape.

That's what happens when it's cold almost all year round - less crime in the street, more in the bedroom.

Do you consider rape a violent crime? Fairbanks has 4.5 times the national rate of forcible rape.

That's what happens when it's cold almost all year round - less crime in the street, more in the bedroom.

Since there aren't that many rapes, and the odds of getting pregnant aren't that high, it's unclear that a 25% failure rate would lead to "a lot" of pregnancies.

There were around 94,000 forcible rapes reported to law enforcement in 2005. Let's suppose that two-thirds of those women wouldn't have gotten pregnant anyway. With a 25% failure rate, even if they all take emergency contraception, that still leaves over 7800 pregnancies from rape annually.

Now consider that rape is notoriously under-reported, and that those statistics only include forcible rape -- not drunken mistakes, coercion other than the threat of force, or incest -- and we're probably looking at a lot more.

The failure of women to receive emergency contraception for whatever reason probably will produce more children.

Of course! I'm not saying people shouldn't use ECP; they definitely should. I'm saying it isn't effective enough to make abortion obsolete.

Sadly the 'death threat' I received via email wasn't some kind of advertisement and merely an attempt to scam me out of money:

Look here you bastard. You think i have time for this your stupid talk, i just
inform you that some one paid me to kill you and you are
here talking no sence to me. this is like the same warning pass on to the
america government when they ignore it and it became and ignorance to
them, and this is the same warning also pass to the most polular MUSICIAN WHO
WAS SHORT DEAD IN SOUTH AFRICA. am also passing this
warning to you so if you want to ignore it then you too will face in hell and
join the devil.

If you do not comply and cooperate with me in your reply to this email, you
will leave me no option as to instruct my Boys to get you shot, for your
informations you are to Pay the sum of $3,500 Usd to live your life as a free
Citizen, but if you ignore.... As a matter of fact the person whom insructed me
to get you killed is waiting for your Funeral news.

http://www.fbi.gov/terrorinfo/top.htm
http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=noordin_mohammed_top_1

Noordin Mohammed.

Oddly enough that email cheered me up when I received it.

He can report this attempted crime to the FBI Cybercrime office and they will take care of everything!

They'd do that before they'd ever indict Osama bin Laden for 9/11.

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/laden.htm

I agreed with you until you made that stupid generalization about the south. There are plenty of racist, xenophobic idiots up north too. Denigrating an entire group of people simply because they live south of an imaginary line isn't any better than hating on people because their skin color is different or because they speak a different language.

I've never heard of anyone accidentally buying a car the seller didn't own

Oh??? Car cloning. http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/news/item.htm?id=6769 http://www.fbi.gov/page2/march07/carcloning032907.htm

But regardless, it's moot since a thief could just pass the car to a fence who has no record.

Wait what!? Car cloning!? What's next? DMVIAA?

I've never heard of anyone accidentally buying a car the seller didn't own

Oh??? Car cloning. http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/news/item.htm?id=6769 http://www.fbi.gov/page2/march07/carcloning032907.htm

But regardless, it's moot since a thief could just pass the car to a fence who has no record.

Unfortunately, yes. If you look at the statistics the VAST majority of the 57 officers killed in 2007 were shot in the head. Only 2 were shot with rifles through their armor, one with a .308 and one with a .30-06. Linky.