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I'm interested in running BSD, but let me know when they make a version that's as easy to install as Ubuntu and doesn't use KDE. I'm not a KDE fan, and it seems that with BSD you have an option of KDE or CLI and that's it.

There are plenty of LiveCD versions of BSD, but you can't install any of them! Honesty, I really like FreeSBIE. I just wish they would make it capable of installing itself on a hard disk.

IMHO BSDanywhere is completely pointless.

FreeSBIE 2.0 based on FreeBSD 6.2 just went RC1, and you can make your own using the sysutils/freesbie port. Maybe not your first choice, but a good range of systems is handy for fussy machines.

There are currently 4 bsd projects that i'm aware of. They include FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD and DragonFlyBSD. In addition to these projects which each develop their own kernel and userland, there are linux style distros PC-BSD and DesktopBSD which do not develop their own kernel or low level userland. (they add gui shit) These two track freebsd progress as well as other projects like frenzy that do live cds.

Just to add to what you've listed, there are some lesser-known but quite interesting *BSD projects out there.

AnonymOS, an OpenBSD 3.8-based LiveCD with strong encryption and a preconfigured TOR proxy service for net anonymoity.

http://kaos.to/cms/content/view/14/32/

NeWBIE, a NetBSD-based LiveCD aimed at being a desktop LiveCD that includes the Fluxbox desktop environment.

http://arudius.sourceforge.net/

FreeeSBIE, a FreeBSD-based LiveCD (includes install script) which includes Fluxbox and XFCE4 desktop environments. The FreeSBIE toolkit to produce custom LiveCDs is even included in FreeBSDs' ports tree. (There is a Romanian-created flavor called RoFreeSBIE, links at Softpedia http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/RoFreeSBIE -Live-CD-Download-9067.html).

http://www.freesbie.org/

There may be other projects, but those are the ones I'm familiar with. They are all very nice, and worth a try.

As to PC-BSD, I'm more knowledgeable than the average PC user, but I found PC-BSD to be quite impressive and usable, without being too terribly dumbed-down.My G/F (Yes, I have one, but I'm 48 and also play lead guitar in a gigging and recording blues band. :-P) actually prefers it over XP or Mandriva.

The .PBI software packages aren't too numerous as yet, but there has been steady development with new .PBIs appearing at a fast enough pace that I'm sure the number will be respectable before too long.

Bravo, laffer! I wish you luck with MidnightBSD, and I'll keep checking that URL. I look forward to any new ideas being applied to FreeBSD, as it seems a very solid base, and IMHO has not been taken anywhere near its' capabilities yet as a desktop.

Cheers!

Strat

"1. Sound subsystem improvements (if you like to listen to songs once a while on your server , use it as a dedicated server cum audio only media center )"

Audio only? mplayer works fine on my FreeBSD workstation.

Other generally notable changes:

New dhclient with privsep imported from OpenBSD. I'm sure other OS's would appreciate ports.

Variant symlinks; again, being able to have context-sensitive symlinks isn't a feature only of interest to a few BSD users. What uses can you think of for variable interpolation in symlinks that can be set per-process, per-user or per-system?

New FreeSBIE prereleases for testing/playing, which is good to know even (or especially) if you haven't used FreeBSD before.

phkmalloc replaced with jemalloc in CURRENT, which is several hundred times faster in some cases. It should be noted this is uncovering a significant number of memory alignment and pointer truncation bugs in third party software. Even emacs and X.org have been found to have memory alignment and/or 64bit pointer truncation issues.

Alright, can't you google for your own info?

http://www.freesbie.org/ - Latest release is based on FreeBSD 5.3.

It's harder to find LiveCDs of Open/NetBSD, but you can create your own -

http://ezunix.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sect ions&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=88&page=1

http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2005/07/14/openbsd _live.html

Gee golly, and all of that was on the first results page after searching for "Open/Net/FreeBSD LiveCD".. Whooda thunkit?

I use FreeBSD and the hardware drivers just work. I can take the drive out my computer and put it in any random computer and it will just work. All I have to do is tell Xorg which graphics card I am using. If I wanted to routinely move between computers, I could rip the graphics card detection script off of FreeSBIE and aoutodetect the graphics card. Having a large list of supported components does not preclude an OS from working easily.

If I were Apple I would not be affraid of people using my OS on cheapo computers, causing hardware compatability problems, but I would be affraid of of people, that have no clue what they're doing, try to assemble computers, then put my OS on them. Most modern computers support most modern hardware without much fanfare, but computers don't work if you plug your RAM in backwards, forget to plug the fan in on the processor's heatsink, get the wrong ram speed, kill your BIOS trying to flash it, etc...

Apple has a really good image of dependability in a field known for a lack thereof. Computers assembled by the neighbor kid, that have only one screw holding the mainboard in, and brand new computers, with 64MB of RAM in them, are far more likely to ruin that than winmodems and MediaGX processors.

Tried http://www.freesbie.org/ on my desktop last night. While it doesn't have a wireless card meaning I couldn't test that, I couldn't find a way to change my desktop refresh rate/resolution either. Being pretty much a Linux newbie, I don't want to have to hack up XF86Config files just to change resolutions, so I didn't do much more than check it out for a few minutes

It did seem fairly fast, but that could have been FluxBox I think. Slax (another distro) allows you to run it entirely in RAM, something all of the LiveCD's should allow IMO. That lets you really see what they can do performance wise.

Then you may want to try these: http://www.freesbie.org/ http://bsdeviant.unixpunx.org/

The only thing that (literally) kept me up last night with PC-BSD was my wireless keyboard & mouse--one would work, the other would not. It took me a little bit of trial and error to get that figured out. In the end, it was my own fault, and such a freakin' simple solution. It's embarrassing!

" Great idea and all , but Id be amazed if you could power down windows in that time , never mind boot a live CD ...(not entirely meant to be that serious a remark)"

I will note that LiveCDs do not boot as fast as an installed-to-hard-drive OS. That being said, the linux desktops (installed) that I've experienced typically boot a bit faster than 98SE, 2000, or XP that I've typically had set up to dual-boot.

A bit off-topic, but I was impressed with FreeSBIE 1.1, http://www.freesbie.org/ an installable (using the BSD Installer http://www.bsdinstaller.org/ ) FreeBSD-based LiveCD (version 1.2 due soon). I didn't take measurments, but it seemed to boot significantly faster than the average linux LiveCD, and the system after installation (after installing, you have a 5.3-STABLE FreeBSD system w/desktop, XFCE4 or fluxbox) booted much faster than either windows or linux.

One of the cool things with FreeSBIE is the inclusion of scripts to allow you to build your own custom FreeBSD LiveCD .iso images.

Just my $0.02

Strat

I had similar lack of knowledge and experience issues back when I first started down the linux/*BSD path, and it can be quite intimidating to a newcomer to *nix-based OSs.

Fortunately, these days it is much easier to get a handle on basic linux and *BSD operation/configuration/etc. There are now many excellent LiveCD distributions out there, including both linux and FreeBSD (FreeSBIE project).

They allow a newcomer to experience an operational, mostly configured system without risking your existing OS and data, and get familiar with it, and most can be installed to a hard drive while saving the configurations that were auto-detected by the LiveCD startup.

There are many flavors of linux LiveCD distributions out there like Knoppix http://www.knoppix.net/ and even "specialty" LiveCDs like P.H.L.A.K.(Professional Hackers Linux Assault Kit) http://www.phlak.org/ or Auditor http://new.remote-exploit.org/index.php/Auditor_ma in and for FreeBSD there is FreeSBIE http://www.freesbie.org/ which gave me my leg-up with the steep part of the learning curve for FreeBSD (the developers at #freesbie on Azzura.net on IRC are helpful and friendly!).

Good luck, hope that helps!

Strat

I have no idea, but you may try FreeSBIE, a FreeBSD on a Live-CD.

I've been a linux user for a few years now, and have recently "discovered" FreeBSD through FreeSBIE LiveCD project http://www.freesbie.org/. Up to that time, I had made a couple of install attempts of FreeBSD 5.3 Release with limited success, and had put further exploration on the back burner.

Having finally had a chance to experience (and have a successful harddrive install through the FreeSBIE install scripts) a FreeBSD desktop environment (XFCE4 in the case of FreeSBIE, with Fluxbox being the other choice in FreeSBIE) I've now caught the *BSD bug, and have learned much through having a working FreeBSD desktop environment from which to learn, since for me, it's easier to fix something that you know once worked, and by troubleshooting what went wrong, learn much more about the system than the problem would strictly encompass.

Without that "leg-up" to a functioning FreeBSD install, I might still be using linux only, and not have yet discovered the strengths of the various *BSDs and the opportunity to learn the basics of a new (to me) powerful operating system, with somewhat limited time in my schedule.

I am delighted to find another *BSD-based desktop-oriented distro. I have to disagree with the attitude that "BSD is not meant for the average Joe". BSD is capable of being whatever one needs, that is one of the beauties of it.

Nearly any "server environment" requires trained admins, regardless of the operating system used, since the level of knowledge required is more a function of the application to which it is being applied, as opposed to the "user-friendliness" in this case, IMHO.

As mentioned, it can't but help all of the *BSDs to increase their user base, possibly even kill the /. meme: "netcraft confirms: BSD is dead".
Well, one can dream. :)

Strat

and say, "I only need a secure browser," you'll likely pick a BSD

I agree... but... the banks are really saying "I only need a secure browser that'll run automatically on a very wide range of hardware". I don't run Knoppix (except as a get-out-of-jail-free card ;-) but it is extremely comfortable with most hardware. Moreso than FreeSBIE, for example.

Cd's like these are very useful, even in our Windows-centric company. One laptop had a fried harddrive, Windows crashed upon starting. First I tried the recovery console which was no help because the disk was beyond repair, then I tried a BartPE XP cd but that wouldn't recognize neither the nic in the docking nor a USB nic (no, I didn't want to have to add all sorts of drivers etc. to it first). Downloaded a FreeSBIE cd and it worked perfectly. The guy was very happy about his saved data, the shmuck.
*goes off to browse the site*

FreeSBIE, based on Free BSD and bundled with Xfce, is intriguing, but I couldn't get it to talk to the wireless network, or to print. It also crashed my system twice. But I'd be willing to check it out again sometime.

That whole article is just one big trollish flamebait. The author doesn't know FreeBSD is not Linux and he cannot even get the name right, it's a miracle he didn't write Linux as Li nux. He also failed to notice that Fluxbox is also available and not just XFce, but maybe he thought Fluxbox is a version of Tetris. Well, since he didn't explain what exactly happened, here is a more detailed account of what went on:

*FreeSBIE booting up*
James LaRue: "Oh, check out the penguin, I like the new costume, hehe!"
James LaRue: "*scratching head* Uhh, Fluxbox... Tetris? Nah, not for me... What the hell... *presses 1 (console tcsh shell)*"

# ifconfig wlan0 wificlient broadcast 192.168.1.255
ifconfig: interface wlan0 does not exist

About the author: James LaRue is a public library administrator..

Are you sure? I think I know him from somewhere... Well, if he really is a public library administrator it seems his library is missing a book or two.

FreeSBIE, based on Free BSD and bundled with Xfce, is intriguing, but I couldn't get it to talk to the wireless network, or to print. It also crashed my system twice. But I'd be willing to check it out again sometime.

That whole article is just one big trollish flamebait. The author doesn't know FreeBSD is not Linux and he cannot even get the name right, it's a miracle he didn't write Linux as Li nux. He also failed to notice that Fluxbox is also available and not just XFce, but maybe he thought Fluxbox is a version of Tetris. Well, since he didn't explain what exactly happened, here is a more detailed account of what went on:

*FreeSBIE booting up*
James LaRue: "Oh, check out the penguin, I like the new costume, hehe!"
James LaRue: "*scratching head* Uhh, Fluxbox... Tetris? Nah, not for me... What the hell... *presses 1 (console tcsh shell)*"

# ifconfig wlan0 wificlient broadcast 192.168.1.255
ifconfig: interface wlan0 does not exist

About the author: James LaRue is a public library administrator..

Are you sure? I think I know him from somewhere... Well, if he really is a public library administrator it seems his library is missing a book or two.

FreeSBIE, based on Free BSD and bundled with Xfce, is intriguing, but I couldn't get it to talk to the wireless network, or to print. It also crashed my system twice. But I'd be willing to check it out again sometime.

That whole article is just one big trollish flamebait. The author doesn't know FreeBSD is not Linux and he cannot even get the name right, it's a miracle he didn't write Linux as Li nux. He also failed to notice that Fluxbox is also available and not just XFce, but maybe he thought Fluxbox is a version of Tetris. Well, since he didn't explain what exactly happened, here is a more detailed account of what went on:

*FreeSBIE booting up*
James LaRue: "Oh, check out the penguin, I like the new costume, hehe!"
James LaRue: "*scratching head* Uhh, Fluxbox... Tetris? Nah, not for me... What the hell... *presses 1 (console tcsh shell)*"

# ifconfig wlan0 wificlient broadcast 192.168.1.255
ifconfig: interface wlan0 does not exist

About the author: James LaRue is a public library administrator..

Are you sure? I think I know him from somewhere... Well, if he really is a public library administrator it seems his library is missing a book or two.

FreeSBIE, based on Free BSD and bundled with Xfce, is intriguing, but I couldn't get it to talk to the wireless network, or to print. It also crashed my system twice. But I'd be willing to check it out again sometime.

That whole article is just one big trollish flamebait. The author doesn't know FreeBSD is not Linux and he cannot even get the name right, it's a miracle he didn't write Linux as Li nux. He also failed to notice that Fluxbox is also available and not just XFce, but maybe he thought Fluxbox is a version of Tetris. Well, since he didn't explain what exactly happened, here is a more detailed account of what went on:

*FreeSBIE booting up*
James LaRue: "Oh, check out the penguin, I like the new costume, hehe!"
James LaRue: "*scratching head* Uhh, Fluxbox... Tetris? Nah, not for me... What the hell... *presses 1 (console tcsh shell)*"

# ifconfig wlan0 wificlient broadcast 192.168.1.255
ifconfig: interface wlan0 does not exist

About the author: James LaRue is a public library administrator..

Are you sure? I think I know him from somewhere... Well, if he really is a public library administrator it seems his library is missing a book or two.

Surf on over here for the torrent file.

I dunno, maybe you're just trolling (and a number of replies that follow would qualify you as a good troll), but I'd say that installing FreeBSD is not any more difficult than, say, Slackware or Debian. It is more challenging than your Mandrake or RH install, I think (have not had a chance in the last 3-4 years to try either).

That said, with enough preparation and a chapter from the Handbook printed out and within a reach installing stock FreeBSD should not be a problem at all.

The question you should, however, ask yourself is Why do I want to try FreeBSD? If it is just because you've heard it's cool -- you may be much better off trying a http://www.freesbie.org/ instead. It's a live FreeBSD ssytem, sort of like Knoppix.

If you want to give FreeBSD a spin because you want to understand UNIX-land better or have needs for the stability of the platform, then rough starts should not be anything to discourage you.

In either case -- all the best and have fun!

Easy torrent access here.

If you aren't ready to install FreeBSD on your hard disk, you can try out FreeBSD 5 with the live FreeSBIE CD. It's currently based on FreeBSD 5.2.1.

If you haven't used one of the BSDs, why not give FreeBSD a try with the FreeSBIE Live CD? FreeSBIE lets you try out FreeBSD and a wide array of its applications without needing to install anything on your hard disk.

Why not use Freesbie?

You can setup a FreeBSD live CD in no time. It's in ports (sysutils/freesbie). I've set up a couple live CDs playing around with it. I need to get serious and make a nice 5.3 CD after it's released.

you could also try FreeSBIE http://www.freesbie.org/, a very nice freeBSD live CD. it worked fine on my DELL laptop (except for the wireless card, but that's expected) and on another old DELL PIII desktop I had lying around but of course since your machine is new YMMV.

s.

Or possibly this as an option. I know, I know, you have to buy Apple hardware, but the nice thing is that you can play around with BSD as well, pre-installed, while still getting the iApps. And chicks dig the Powerbook.

Well, I like it. YMMV.

I guess the best bet for someone who just wants to try out BSD is Freesbie

A BSD newbie must also know that all BSDs have the same advantage over Linux. That is good documentation for development and for POSIX patterns.
But im not trying to start a flamewar, even because BSDs may not be the best OS for everyone.
for regular users, or for bigger OS flexibility, i would sugest to stay with our pal Tux! (ive used it for long time =) )

but if you want to build a stable server in which youll need to do some secure,well-documented development, BSD is always a good choice.
One must only have in mind that the BSDs are not all equal as ive read on earlier posts!! (people were talking about FreeBSD when the topic clearly states about Open).
just for the record:
NetBSD >runs on everything with 32 bits. (including toasters =D)
FreeBSD > good performance and stability. (My personal choice ! )
OpenBSD > awesome security but bad performance compared to the other 2.(what i have to work with in college)

just thought that someone needed to clear that out!

Since when has the BSD crowd enjoyed posting flamebait? Hehe. Aren't you breaking your rules?

I believe the grandparent was trying to be funny, playing with the knowledge that there is indeed a "hip" factor in GNU/Linux zealotry and large corporation bashing

All in jest though. I want to have some BSD installs, but I am quite lacking in hardware. Perhaps one of the dying folks would leave me a spare box in their will?

You could just get a cheap harddrive with at least 5GB on it, install *BSD and dual boot.

Suggestion: Freesbie , you don't even have to install to try it out

You may be aware of this already, but try FreeSBIE

It's a FreeBSD Unix LiveCD with a desktop environment (XFCE I think). It doesn't work properly on my nForce2 PC (no network and consequently no internet) but it certainly works.

You shurely must be talking about freesbie software?

It is official; Netcraft confirms: *BSD: it's (a)live!

One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD is dying community when Slashdot confirmed that *BSD death trolls have dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all troll posts. Coming on the heels of a recent troll survey which plainly states that trolls are running out of *BSD ammo, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. Slashdot trolls are trolling with new and better methods because trolling about BSD's falsely prophetic death is as obsolete and useless as GNU HURD.

You don't need to be Jesus to predict the Slashdot troll phenomena's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD trolls face a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD trolls because *BSD trolls are dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD trolls. As many of us are already aware, *BSD has recently acquired several Live CDs. Red devil Live CDs multiply like fucking rabbits.

The reasons for the death of the *BSD troll are obvious. The creators of the *BSD troll post have lost 93% of their core developers due to casulties from the sudden and unpleasant battles between Trollcore and GNAA. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD trolls are dying.

Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

GNAA leader Anonymous Coward states that there are 700 active trolls on Slashdot. How many BSD death trolls are there? Let's see. The number of troll posts vs BSD death troll posts on Slashdot is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 700/5 = 140 BSD death trolls. But half of those are just cheezy karma-whore spinoffs of the original troll. Therefore there are about 70 users of the real BSD death troll. These statistics, of course, reflect Slashdot before the war between Trollcore and GNAA. So we must assume that there are less than 70 people who actually believe that *BSD is still dying!

All major surveys show that *BSD trolls have steadily declined in humor level. *BSD trolls are very sick and their long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD trolls are to survive at all, they will be nothing but workers toiling in Slashdot trolling phenomena obscurity. *BSD death trolls continue to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save them at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD death trolls are dead.

Fact: *BSD: it's (a)live!

It is official; Netcraft confirms: *BSD: it's (a)live!

One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD is dying community when Slashdot confirmed that *BSD death trolls have dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all troll posts. Coming on the heels of a recent troll survey which plainly states that trolls are running out of *BSD ammo, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. Slashdot trolls are trolling with new and better methods because trolling about BSD's falsely prophetic death is as obsolete and useless as GNU HURD.

You don't need to be Jesus to predict the Slashdot troll phenomena's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD trolls face a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD trolls because *BSD trolls are dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD trolls. As many of us are already aware, *BSD has recently acquired several Live CDs. Red devil Live CDs multiply like fucking rabbits.

The reasons for the death of the *BSD troll are obvious. The creators of the *BSD troll post have lost 93% of their core developers due to casulties from the sudden and unpleasant battles between Trollcore and GNAA. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD trolls are dying.

Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

GNAA leader Anonymous Coward states that there are 700 active trolls on Slashdot. How many BSD death trolls are there? Let's see. The number of troll posts vs BSD death troll posts on Slashdot is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 700/5 = 140 BSD death trolls. But half of those are just cheezy karma-whore spinoffs of the original troll. Therefore there are about 70 users of the real BSD death troll. These statistics, of course, reflect Slashdot before the war between Trollcore and GNAA. So we must assume that there are less than 70 people who actually believe that *BSD is still dying!

All major surveys show that *BSD trolls have steadily declined in humor level. *BSD trolls are very sick and their long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD trolls are to survive at all, they will be nothing but workers toiling in Slashdot trolling phenomena obscurity. *BSD death trolls continue to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save them at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD death trolls are dead.

Fact: *BSD: it's (a)live!

It is official; Netcraft confirms: *BSD: it's (a)live!

One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD is dying community when Slashdot confirmed that *BSD death trolls have dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all troll posts. Coming on the heels of a recent troll survey which plainly states that trolls are running out of *BSD ammo, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. Slashdot trolls are trolling with new and better methods because trolling about BSD's falsely prophetic death is as obsolete and useless as GNU HURD.

You don't need to be Jesus to predict the Slashdot troll phenomena's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD trolls face a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD trolls because *BSD trolls are dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD trolls. As many of us are already aware, *BSD has recently acquired several Live CDs. Red devil Live CDs multiply like fucking rabbits.

The reasons for the death of the *BSD troll are obvious. The creators of the *BSD troll post have lost 93% of their core developers due to casulties from the sudden and unpleasant battles between Trollcore and GNAA. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD trolls are dying.

Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

GNAA leader Anonymous Coward states that there are 700 active trolls on Slashdot. How many BSD death trolls are there? Let's see. The number of troll posts vs BSD death troll posts on Slashdot is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 700/5 = 140 BSD death trolls. But half of those are just cheezy karma-whore spinoffs of the original troll. Therefore there are about 70 users of the real BSD death troll. These statistics, of course, reflect Slashdot before the war between Trollcore and GNAA. So we must assume that there are less than 70 people who actually believe that *BSD is still dying!

All major surveys show that *BSD trolls have steadily declined in humor level. *BSD trolls are very sick and their long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD trolls are to survive at all, they will be nothing but workers toiling in Slashdot trolling phenomena obscurity. *BSD death trolls continue to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save them at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD death trolls are dead.

Fact: *BSD: it's (a)live!

It is official; Netcraft confirms: *BSD: it's (a)live!

One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD is dying community when Slashdot confirmed that *BSD death trolls have dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all troll posts. Coming on the heels of a recent troll survey which plainly states that trolls are running out of *BSD ammo, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. Slashdot trolls are trolling with new and better methods because trolling about BSD's falsely prophetic death is as obsolete and useless as GNU HURD.

You don't need to be Jesus to predict the Slashdot troll phenomena's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD trolls face a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD trolls because *BSD trolls are dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD trolls. As many of us are already aware, *BSD has recently acquired several Live CDs. Red devil Live CDs multiply like fucking rabbits.

The reasons for the death of the *BSD troll are obvious. The creators of the *BSD troll post have lost 93% of their core developers due to casulties from the sudden and unpleasant battles between Trollcore and GNAA. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD trolls are dying.

Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

GNAA leader Anonymous Coward states that there are 700 active trolls on Slashdot. How many BSD death trolls are there? Let's see. The number of troll posts vs BSD death troll posts on Slashdot is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 700/5 = 140 BSD death trolls. But half of those are just cheezy karma-whore spinoffs of the original troll. Therefore there are about 70 users of the real BSD death troll. These statistics, of course, reflect Slashdot before the war between Trollcore and GNAA. So we must assume that there are less than 70 people who actually believe that *BSD is still dying!

All major surveys show that *BSD trolls have steadily declined in humor level. *BSD trolls are very sick and their long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD trolls are to survive at all, they will be nothing but workers toiling in Slashdot trolling phenomena obscurity. *BSD death trolls continue to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save them at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD death trolls are dead.

Fact: *BSD: it's (a)live!

It is official; Netcraft confirms: *BSD: it's (a)live!

One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD is dying community when Slashdot confirmed that *BSD death trolls have dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all troll posts. Coming on the heels of a recent troll survey which plainly states that trolls are running out of *BSD ammo, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. Slashdot trolls are trolling with new and better methods because trolling about BSD's falsely prophetic death is as obsolete and useless as GNU HURD.

You don't need to be Jesus to predict the Slashdot troll phenomena's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD trolls face a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD trolls because *BSD trolls are dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD trolls. As many of us are already aware, *BSD has recently acquired several Live CDs. Red devil Live CDs multiply like fucking rabbits.

The reasons for the death of the *BSD troll are obvious. The creators of the *BSD troll post have lost 93% of their core developers due to casulties from the sudden and unpleasant battles between Trollcore and GNAA. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD trolls are dying.

Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

GNAA leader Anonymous Coward states that there are 700 active trolls on Slashdot. How many BSD death trolls are there? Let's see. The number of troll posts vs BSD death troll posts on Slashdot is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 700/5 = 140 BSD death trolls. But half of those are just cheezy karma-whore spinoffs of the original troll. Therefore there are about 70 users of the real BSD death troll. These statistics, of course, reflect Slashdot before the war between Trollcore and GNAA. So we must assume that there are less than 70 people who actually believe that *BSD is still dying!

All major surveys show that *BSD trolls have steadily declined in humor level. *BSD trolls are very sick and their long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD trolls are to survive at all, they will be nothing but workers toiling in Slashdot trolling phenomena obscurity. *BSD death trolls continue to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save them at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD death trolls are dead.

Fact: *BSD: it's (a)live!

It is official; Netcraft confirms: *BSD: it's (a)live!

One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD is dying community when Slashdot confirmed that *BSD death trolls have dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all troll posts. Coming on the heels of a recent troll survey which plainly states that trolls are running out of *BSD ammo, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. Slashdot trolls are trolling with new and better methods because trolling about BSD's falsely prophetic death is as obsolete and useless as GNU HURD.

You don't need to be Jesus to predict the Slashdot troll phenomena's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD trolls face a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD trolls because *BSD trolls are dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD trolls. As many of us are already aware, *BSD has recently acquired several Live CDs. Red devil Live CDs multiply like fucking rabbits.

The reasons for the death of the *BSD troll are obvious. The creators of the *BSD troll post have lost 93% of their core developers due to casulties from the sudden and unpleasant battles between Trollcore and GNAA. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD trolls are dying.

Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

GNAA leader Anonymous Coward states that there are 700 active trolls on Slashdot. How many BSD death trolls are there? Let's see. The number of troll posts vs BSD death troll posts on Slashdot is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 700/5 = 140 BSD death trolls. But half of those are just cheezy karma-whore spinoffs of the original troll. Therefore there are about 70 users of the real BSD death troll. These statistics, of course, reflect Slashdot before the war between Trollcore and GNAA. So we must assume that there are less than 70 people who actually believe that *BSD is still dying!

All major surveys show that *BSD trolls have steadily declined in humor level. *BSD trolls are very sick and their long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD trolls are to survive at all, they will be nothing but workers toiling in Slashdot trolling phenomena obscurity. *BSD death trolls continue to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save them at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD death trolls are dead.

Fact: *BSD: it's (a)live!

Helevius

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