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  1. Why reinvent the wheel? by Cobol+God · · Score: 1 · on NASA Prepares for Space Rescues

    There are already rescue systems designed and could be easily done for the cheap!!! and not risk other astronauts lifes in the process. Such as the Moose http://www.friends-partners.ru/partners/mwade/craf t/moose.htm

    The moose is basically an EVA suit inside a plastic back with heatsheilding on the outside of the bag and foam on the inside. Testing showed that it would work as a single person escape pod. GE did all the testing on it in the early 60s.
    Again I ask..

    Why reinvent the wheel?

    Btw.. THat same website going back one step http://www.friends-partners.ru/partners/mwade/craf tfam/rescue.htm has several examples of already researched rescue pods/vehicles/modules and long term "lifeboats".

  2. Why reinvent the wheel? by Cobol+God · · Score: 1 · on NASA Prepares for Space Rescues

    There are already rescue systems designed and could be easily done for the cheap!!! and not risk other astronauts lifes in the process. Such as the Moose http://www.friends-partners.ru/partners/mwade/craf t/moose.htm

    The moose is basically an EVA suit inside a plastic back with heatsheilding on the outside of the bag and foam on the inside. Testing showed that it would work as a single person escape pod. GE did all the testing on it in the early 60s.
    Again I ask..

    Why reinvent the wheel?

    Btw.. THat same website going back one step http://www.friends-partners.ru/partners/mwade/craf tfam/rescue.htm has several examples of already researched rescue pods/vehicles/modules and long term "lifeboats".

  3. Re:Saturn V is good but we can build bigger by zentinal · · Score: 1 · on Saturn V Preservation Efforts

    Link to information to Nova (that doesn't launch a ton of popups).

  4. Re:Well then. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on US to Pay to go to ISS

    http://www.spaceandtech.com/spacedata/engines/rd12 0_sum.shtml http://www.spaceandtech.com/spacedata/engines/rd18 0_sum.shtml http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n0412/22atlas5n ro/ http://www.friends-partners.org/partners/mwade/lvs /atlasv.htm http://www.asi.org/adb/04/03/09/01/npo-energomash. html and: http://www.friends-partners.ru/partners/mwade/lvfa m/energia.htm Sorry for the inconvenience in the previous post.

  5. Re:Reuse what lander? by EEH · · Score: 1 · on Russian Group Plans Manned Mars Mission By 2011
    The idea of a Mars mission that used existing hardware or hardware that was expected to be developed for other purposes is not new. I remember an article in Analog of June 1981 ( waddaya mean fossil!) entitled "Mars in 1995" by Bob Parkinson that talked about using off-the-shelf Titans.

    A version of this proposal is on the Mars Institute Website

    Parkinson talked about using a "conical two-stage Lander Module modeled on the 1968 North American Rockwell Mars Excursion Module". Since NAR were the prime contractor for the Apollo Command Module I assume it would have been based on the Apollo experience.

    In 1981 dollars Parkinson estimated that the lander would take the lions share of the development capital - $2.4 billion - with a total of $4.84 billion.

    Sooo .. you might have hit the nail on the head. Cost-wise they just might be able to do it
    • if
    they can pick up a Lander off-the-shelf. Although the Russians are not devoid of ideas for my money, I reckon they should check to see who holds the rights to the NAR development.

    I wonder if they've checked Ebay?

    Cheers
    Alan, Downunda
  6. Taking a Saturn V to mars is silly. by obirt · · Score: 1 · on Saturn V Fallen on Hard Times
    There's no need to sink money into manned mars missions when we haven't been back to the moon. Money would be better spent using the Buran and Energia to set up a lunar habitat. The official site has more of the nitty gritty buran.ru

    Its a shame that the Buran and the Space Shuttle were developed in competition rather than cooperating on a space system that would be better than each individual system. If NASA used a lift system like Energia or the Energia itself, we would probably still have Challenger and Columbia which could be fitted to say, land on the moon or mars and then launch like a plane using internal fuel tanks and the SSMEs to return to earth.

    With the cancelling of Venture Star and pipe dreams like the Space Plane, there aren't that many options left, and money isn't in great supply.

    So back to the topic at hand, I read the restoration plan for the Saturn V at USS&RC. Nowhere does it mention any type of protection, just restoration. So in another five years it's going to cost another 5 mil to restore? Screw that, come up with a plan that doesn't require continued large spending.

    some more interesting reading on Saturn V

  7. Re:Build a Saturn VI to go with it? by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 0, Redundant · on The Return of Apollo?
    Better to go with a more modern launch platform. When the asteroid made 2014 look like a bad time on my calendar I was working out a camparitive chart of the various launching platforms available to the modern designer.

    Several items popped to my attention. First, the Russians have some fabulous Kerosene/L02 engines. Second, said engines have made their way into the Atlas and Delta launch suites. Both of which have configurations that will easily lob 20,000 lbs into LEO.

    The difficulty is in rating these expendable platforms for manned flight. There are a whole lot of extra things to check for when sending people instead of freight. Indeed, the simplest answer might be to adapt the Soyuz launch system. Replace the third stage with our new whizbang spaceplane, or simply put our own capsule up top.

    If the plan is to grow our own, the Atlas/Centaur seems to be a good cost effective way to lob a capsule up.

  8. Re:Of course they want it back! by iNTelligence · · Score: 2, Informative · on The Search for Secret Shuttle Parts

    The fuel I think they were talking about is called Hydrazine and is used to power certain in orbit aspects of the Shuttle.
    Click here for more info but the raw components of hydrazine include caustic, ammonia, and chlorine so I think it's safe to say it's really bad stuff and they weren't just trying to scare people off.

  9. Re:So do I... by omaha · · Score: 1 · on NASA Wants Astronauts on Mars by 2010

    Most likely the propulsion system will be based on NERVA technology developed in the 50s and 60s. The vehicle has been in discussion for some time.

    There have been a number of nuclear propulsion ideas over the years, i.e. ORION (using nuclear explosions) and the like, but NERVA is, imho, the best. To bad it's not practical to scale up the Ion propulsion system used on DS-1.

  10. Just who chose that name?! by Oggust · · Score: 2, Funny · on The Days of SysAdmin Numbered?
    The N1 was the soviet moon rocket, the equavilent of the american Saturn V. They built four of them, all blew up shortly after liftoff, one of them taking out the whole launch complex and killing loads of their best rocket scientists.

    Most of the failures happened because KORD, the computer that ran the rocket and had all kinds of automatic management for motor flame-outs and what not screwed up.

    (The N1 had 30 motors in the first stage, so they pretty much knew one of two of them wouldn't work each flight. The Saturn V had five motros in the first stage.)

    Great naming there, Sun... Something to live up to.

    /August.

  11. This is legit. by blair1q · · Score: 2 · on Chickens Hatch Aboard Chinese Space Module

    NASA used pigs to test dry-land touchdown: Mercury Pig Capsule

    --Blair

  12. The sad state of modern rocketry by hacksoncode · · Score: 1 · on US & Russia Show Off New Rocket Designs
    Before we all ooh and ahh about how impressive this is, check out the performance stats of the most notable piece of 1960's American technology.

    Especially interesting tidbit from that page: Payload: 118,000 kg. to: 185 km Orbit. at: 28.0 degrees. Payload: 47,000 kg. to a: Translunar trajectory

  13. Re:What about Air Force stuff? by HerringFlavoredFowl · · Score: 1 · on Mysterious Cold War Spacecraft Designs!

    Actually, the suites are also required in the SR-71's slower high altitude sibling, the U-2/TR-1 . At 65,000' it fairly close to to being in a vacuum. (btw. the U-2 has an unpressurized cabin).

    to get back on topic, I thought I'd scrap together two other sites that try to pear into the deep blackness. First is Mark Wades, Encyclopedia Astronautica . One of the most complete space history sites on the net (except for the .mov files, nothing on deepcold is not on Encyclopedia Astronautica in more detail). The other The Federation of American Scientists is an excellent source on everything black.

    On the scale of 1 to 10 Red Herrings, I give those sites an 11, I give deepcold half a herring head.

    TastesLikeHerringFlavoredChicken