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Printers
One interesting fact about ink cartridges:
As you all probably know: ink prices average around $30 US per cartridge.
Did you know that most of the $50 printers use 10mL ink cartridges, while the more expensive ones use 40+ mL cartridges?
The strange thing is that when it's time to refill the ink, the 10mL cartridges cost almost the same price as the 30 mL that are used in more expensive models. So while you saved a little money by getting the dirt-cheap printer, you're now paying 3 times as much for the ink!
This is (in my opinion) a very unethical way to trick consumers into thinking that they are saving money by buying a cheaper printer. I've heard many people say that "it's cheaper to buy a new printer than to buy the refill cartridges". But it turns out that this is not true.
Don't believe me? Check out the HP deskjet 3300 series ($40 printer). It uses 10mL cartridges that cost $17.00, which is $1.70 per milliliter.
Now check the Deskjet 6127, a $299 printer. It uses 42mL cartridges @ $29.00, which is only $0.69/mL! The ink for the $40 printer is 2.4 times as expensive.
By the way, this does not apply to Canon printers, but does apply to most others. -
Printers
One interesting fact about ink cartridges:
As you all probably know: ink prices average around $30 US per cartridge.
Did you know that most of the $50 printers use 10mL ink cartridges, while the more expensive ones use 40+ mL cartridges?
The strange thing is that when it's time to refill the ink, the 10mL cartridges cost almost the same price as the 30 mL that are used in more expensive models. So while you saved a little money by getting the dirt-cheap printer, you're now paying 3 times as much for the ink!
This is (in my opinion) a very unethical way to trick consumers into thinking that they are saving money by buying a cheaper printer. I've heard many people say that "it's cheaper to buy a new printer than to buy the refill cartridges". But it turns out that this is not true.
Don't believe me? Check out the HP deskjet 3300 series ($40 printer). It uses 10mL cartridges that cost $17.00, which is $1.70 per milliliter.
Now check the Deskjet 6127, a $299 printer. It uses 42mL cartridges @ $29.00, which is only $0.69/mL! The ink for the $40 printer is 2.4 times as expensive.
By the way, this does not apply to Canon printers, but does apply to most others. -
Even better: Handheld portable scanner
HP made this scanner called the Capshare which did auto stitching of pages and could hold about 100 1-bit text pages in memory. They came out with a color model as well. Unfortunately, they stopped making them in 1999 or 2000. Retail on them was about $500, but were going for $200-$300 on clearance at the end. Now, they sell for $500+ on eBay.com.
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No Microsoft tax
If you check the prices, you will see that they come with no tax:
HP-Compaq D220 with MS-WindowsXP: $429
HP-Compaq D220 with Mandrake 9.1: $349
For MDK 9.1: "Customized solutions, available beginning July 7, start at an estimated U.S. street price of $349"
See price for MS-W-XP: "starting at: $429.00*"
My question is: when will they be available in Europe? Peace!
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No Microsoft tax
If you check the prices, you will see that they come with no tax:
HP-Compaq D220 with MS-WindowsXP: $429
HP-Compaq D220 with Mandrake 9.1: $349
For MDK 9.1: "Customized solutions, available beginning July 7, start at an estimated U.S. street price of $349"
See price for MS-W-XP: "starting at: $429.00*"
My question is: when will they be available in Europe? Peace!
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trademarksfrom the HP press release:
Intel, Pentium and Celeron are U.S. registered trademarks of Intel Corp. Microsoft and Windows are U.S. registered trademarks of Microsoft Corp.
... and Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds and Mandrake Linux is a trademark of Mandrakesoft. Or does not these trademark matter much to HP? -
old stuff
HP has already been selling Compaq desktops with Linux since Oct 2002.
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Re:interesting
64 bit refers to the size of addresses that pointers can reference. Check out this HP site for an easy read summary of the differences.
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Re:Same tired post.....
Sorry, but if you buy an HP 5550 from Ebay for $400, and it comes with 128MB memory, 802.11B AND Bluetooth, then you're talking $620:
PDA $500
Extra Battery $50
Battery Charger $50
Carrying Case $20
TOTAL: $620
And that doesn't include the opportunity cost spent on the hours it takes to get the thing to sync with Linux! -
Re:Same tired post.....
Sorry, but if you buy an HP 5550 from Ebay for $400, and it comes with 128MB memory, 802.11B AND Bluetooth, then you're talking $620:
PDA $500
Extra Battery $50
Battery Charger $50
Carrying Case $20
TOTAL: $620
And that doesn't include the opportunity cost spent on the hours it takes to get the thing to sync with Linux! -
Re:Anyone here use Win for anything other than gam
Sure, I hang on to it for the hn210w driver, among other things.
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Definitely not first with 64 bitsApple isn't the first with 64 bits on the desktop. 64-bit desktop Alphas, SPARCs, SGIs, and Inaniums were there years ago.
With Apple's price point at $3K, they're priced up there with the entry level high-end workstations. HP's Itanium 2 workstation sells for around $3.3K. Sun's base 64-bit workstation is a little under $2K. So Apple's 64-bit offerings have to be compared with the expensive boxes, not what's selling at WalMart.
Apple is probably ahead on price/performance and usability in 64-bit desktops, but they're not first.
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Re:Worlds first 64bit desktop ?
Um, dude...you can mail order a dual-CPU Itanium-2 workstation running XP64 on it from HP immediately.
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Re:Still a way off
Nothing like a personal attack.
Take a look at the research at Columbia University. You'll see that the idea is not unique to GeoVector.
What's that, you say? But it's just research at an academic institution? The check out the work being done at HP Labs Cooltown WebSigns project. If you follow the links, you'll even see some sample algorithms and images of how this technology works.
Do the math and you'll see that the technology requires highly accurate data to make possible the type of applications that GeoVector touts.
Like I said, it's still a way off. But then, you'd have to be an anonymous GV employee or a coward corporate director to say anything else. -
Win-64 shipped in March.
Of this year. That's what? FOUR MONTHS AGO.
If you read the small print: "RUNS ALL WIN64 AND WIN32 BINARIES".
Unhappy with Intel? You've been able to buy AMD Opteron,
from several places for months.
Starting at around $1,100 and from about $1600 for a dual CPU system. -
Re:dissapointment
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Re:"world's first 64-bit desktop processor"DEC Alpha 21064- 64 bit.
Introduced: 1993
Acquired, new, for nothing because I was a DEC employee: 1994.
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Re:First? As if!
I am quite sure there are some people out there who used Alpha-based workstations back when Digital made them.
Actually, people still use them where I work.
world's first 64-bit desktop processor
I hope that they are not trying to patent this concept, because the aforementioned DECs are 64bit as well as the new Itaniums. Which are cheaper and faster than these G5s. -
Re:Apple?
Into what perspective exactly? That Microsoft released their 64-bit workstation OS almost 3 months ago?
Just to be balanced...here is a shipping product. -
Old
HP Labs had their Websigns like two years ago. You have a PDA with a GPS and a compass. You point it at stuff, it pulls up info or lets you interact. We've been working with them on ways of getting away from using a GPS and compass, as they don't work so well indoors.
I think CMU or MIT had like a headmounted version, probably on slashdot a year ago? -
Re:I'd love to know"Please enlighten us as to how allowing a third party to distribute a cheap knockoff of a design that Apple spent years creating will bolster Apple's image of quality and help them increase revenue."
IBM makes more money than Apple selling PC hardware. They allowed Dell, Compaq etc. to "distribute a cheap knockoff" of their design.
Sure - Clones entered the market where the IBM previously was alone and IBM's share did what?
I'll give you a hint - click here.
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Re:"Dated installation" ?!?NFS mounting it doesn't exactly qualify it as a virtual cd for the SYSTEM, does it. Jumpstart (OS installation) is only one place where one might want a CD, dontcha think?
And as for your second ill-informed comment about what you last heard, that hasn't been true for years now. -
Re:In other News...
Please permit me to attempt to influence your views on the issue of the capitalization of ""Unix".
Meanwhile the Open Group is the owner of UNIX(tm), as sold by Novell (in the past), SCO, and of course IBM. Also, Digital, yes? They even used to call it Digital UNIX. Say, does anyone know the direct descendance of Digital UNIX? Did it just come from the OSF/1 sources or what? I'm missing that piece of the puzzle.
Anyway, what with the desire of the original author to call it Unix, and the fact that the Open Group posesses a copyright on UNIX anyway... Well, that's how I feel about it anyway.
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Re:Section 8Hewlett Packard still peddles HP-UX:
HP RISC architecture based workstations
Can't be *that* bad if they still develop the hardware for their operating system.
PA-RISC/HP-UX is perhaps one of the last examples of the old-HP - where every piece of equipment was designed and manufactured in-house. They used to make their own screws for goodness sake!
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Re:Section 8Hewlett Packard still peddles HP-UX:
HP RISC architecture based workstations
Can't be *that* bad if they still develop the hardware for their operating system.
PA-RISC/HP-UX is perhaps one of the last examples of the old-HP - where every piece of equipment was designed and manufactured in-house. They used to make their own screws for goodness sake!
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HP Color Laserjet 4500...
It seems that a lot of people replying to this thread haven't checked out color laser prices in the past couple of years. It used to be that the HP 4500 series was over $2000. However, that's no longer the case.
I picked up an HP Color Laserjet 4500 about a year ago for $600. This awesome printer had less than 10,000 pages on it. One $89 JetDirect 10bT Ethernet card later, I have a fantastic network printer that will last me for many years. I do a lot of prepress, brochures, etc. and the thing has already paid for itself just in printing out work for my clients (I charge them about half of what the local printer charges, and I've made plenty of money from that.)
I admit that $600 for a printer with less than 10,000 pages is a great deal, but there are some on eBay that are coming down under $800. (Note: Don't have one shipped... buy locally if at ALL possible. These things are HEAVY.)
If you're interested in a new color laser, the little Laserjet 1500L printers offer great bang for the buck. They're more unobtrusive than the giant 4500 series, but they have the same great laser quality starting at around $800. PC Connection has good prices for these as well, especially if you open an account with them.
If you want a brand-new giant color laser, try the Color Laserjet 4600. Yes, these are in the $2000 range, but if you're printing hundreds of pages per day, they are a good value.
I would never buy an inkjet again for a business. Yes, you can get an inkjet printer for $100, but those cartridges are a killer ($30 and they last perhaps 150 pages.) My color toner cartridges are $125, but they last for six thousand pages. The black toner cartridges are cheaper and go for 10,000 pages or more. At 11,000 pages, I've only ever had to replace one cyan cartridge, and I routinely do runs of a few hundred pages each. I'll never go back to the treadmill of inkjet cartridge upgrades.
For a church, I'd say the 1100 and 2500 series ($1200 or less) will work out great. Good luck on finding a printer that works well for you! -
HP Color Laserjet 4500...
It seems that a lot of people replying to this thread haven't checked out color laser prices in the past couple of years. It used to be that the HP 4500 series was over $2000. However, that's no longer the case.
I picked up an HP Color Laserjet 4500 about a year ago for $600. This awesome printer had less than 10,000 pages on it. One $89 JetDirect 10bT Ethernet card later, I have a fantastic network printer that will last me for many years. I do a lot of prepress, brochures, etc. and the thing has already paid for itself just in printing out work for my clients (I charge them about half of what the local printer charges, and I've made plenty of money from that.)
I admit that $600 for a printer with less than 10,000 pages is a great deal, but there are some on eBay that are coming down under $800. (Note: Don't have one shipped... buy locally if at ALL possible. These things are HEAVY.)
If you're interested in a new color laser, the little Laserjet 1500L printers offer great bang for the buck. They're more unobtrusive than the giant 4500 series, but they have the same great laser quality starting at around $800. PC Connection has good prices for these as well, especially if you open an account with them.
If you want a brand-new giant color laser, try the Color Laserjet 4600. Yes, these are in the $2000 range, but if you're printing hundreds of pages per day, they are a good value.
I would never buy an inkjet again for a business. Yes, you can get an inkjet printer for $100, but those cartridges are a killer ($30 and they last perhaps 150 pages.) My color toner cartridges are $125, but they last for six thousand pages. The black toner cartridges are cheaper and go for 10,000 pages or more. At 11,000 pages, I've only ever had to replace one cyan cartridge, and I routinely do runs of a few hundred pages each. I'll never go back to the treadmill of inkjet cartridge upgrades.
For a church, I'd say the 1100 and 2500 series ($1200 or less) will work out great. Good luck on finding a printer that works well for you! -
Re:let's face it
What, like an Intel XScale 400mhz processor in a unit that has a better screen and lower cost than a comparable PocketPC device?
That's simply not true. iPaq H3955 has the same screen, the same processor, and more of usable RAM, for $100 less.
And, H1910 is $200 less for a thinner, lighter PDA with the same amount of RAM, same screen, and a slightly slower CPU. -
Re:let's face it
What, like an Intel XScale 400mhz processor in a unit that has a better screen and lower cost than a comparable PocketPC device?
That's simply not true. iPaq H3955 has the same screen, the same processor, and more of usable RAM, for $100 less.
And, H1910 is $200 less for a thinner, lighter PDA with the same amount of RAM, same screen, and a slightly slower CPU. -
Re:let's face it
Try iPaq H1910, then. Smaller than most palms, 200MHz XScale (overclockable to 300MHz), 64MB, a beautiful screen..
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Re:Sun's Hotspot JVM is written in C++jonabbey wrote:
"Surely you're not claiming that there exists a garbage collector for C++ that can work with arbitrary C++ code?"
Of course there is.
The Boehm-Demers-Weiser conservative garbage collector works very well.
On multi-threaded systmes, it can outperform malloc/free based allocation because less locking of the heap is required.
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Re:Sun's Hotspot JVM is written in C++jonabbey wrote:
"Surely you're not claiming that there exists a garbage collector for C++ that can work with arbitrary C++ code?"
Of course there is.
The Boehm-Demers-Weiser conservative garbage collector works very well.
On multi-threaded systmes, it can outperform malloc/free based allocation because less locking of the heap is required.
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Re:All the features of C++
E.G. garbage collection. Java: + C++: -
There are garbage collectors for C++. For example, Hans Boehm has a Boehm-Demers-Weiser garbage collector on his page at HP. We wrote a Scheme (a very minimal subset of it actually) interpreter in one of my cis classes this quarter and the prof recomended that we could use something like that if we ever wanted to finish it. (As is it leaks memory like crazy. No deletes at all.) Look at the current users: gcj, gnu objective c, mzscheme, dotgnu. So, I don't think you can say C++ has no gc.
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Re:Corporations are at fault?
Agreed. And not only that, but the big computer corporations often started with class A (16 million addresses) blocks, and acquired more over time. HP, for one, has its own class A, Compaq's class A, Digital's class A, and I believe also has Tandem's class A as well. That's 48 million IP addresses. I bet that a full
.001% are actually in use. And all the other old IT companies (IBM, Sun, SGI, etc.) probably are similarly inefficient. -
All in One stop crime
Of course, with printer manufacturers producing beauties like this, it's no wonder people can get away with things like this.
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Transparent screens already availibleTo me a better type of transparent screen, more like the one used in Minority Report already exists (by conventional means)
By embedding reflective but transprent phosphors and other chemicals/compounds into plexiglass or glass one can project images onto that glass with a normal projector.
I did this as an experiment just after Minority Report using a tiny xb31 HP projector and plexiglass. Gives a really neat effect - just need low light / dark room (also as in Minority report)
Although the layered screens i suppose couldn't be done this way.
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Re:'Twice as fast' true or false?
Link
benefits of 64-bit computing
increased scalability
The main benefit of 64-bit computing is increased scalability of your computer and applications. Some applications simply do not fit into a 32-bit computing model. For example, limitations on file size in a 32-bit environment may require database systems to use multiple files to represent a single file. Applications requiring large files, a large number of files, or a large number of users will benefit from 64-bit computing.
increased performance
Any application that is outgrowing a 32-bit computing environment will suffer performance hits. Applications may need large files, large memory, high precision arithmetic, and/or algorithmic accommodations for 32-bit limitations. Applications needing more code or data in memory will benefit from decreased swapping with 64-bit computing. Reduced swapping can make database inquiries as much as 100 times faster (individual performance gains may vary). -
Re:Performance legend #1:Synchronisation is slowIf String class methods are showing up as the largest bottleneck, it's not concatenation that's doing it - unwise/unncessary concatenation causes StringBuffer., StringBuffer.append, and StringBuffer.toString to rise to the top in profile output.
Although I've never seen String class methods being a huge bottleneck, my initial guess is that somewhere you're ignoring the immutable nature of String and doing things similar to:String s = new String("CONSTANT");
(and yes, I know that reflection lets you abuse Strings in unnatural ways - ignore that for now)
My suggestion would be to download hpjmeter or some similar tool for displaying the jdk's hprof output, generate cpu sampled hprof output, and look to see where you're calling these String methods that are bubbling to the top in the profiled output. For reference, we use the following command line when profiling our application:$JAVACMD $JAVAARGS \
And yes, that "synchronization isn't slow" bit is, in my experience, just wrong. Unless you've got some heavily CPU-bound process (or, possibly, are writing something involving user interaction) it's better to use as much non-blocking I/O as possible and stick to single threads whenever you can.
-Xmx100m -Xrunhprof:cpu=samples,thread=y,depth=16,cutoff=0 -server \
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Re:How about others (AMD, Mot, IBM)Why did you link to Google's cache?
AMD Athlon Processor Model 6 Revision Guide
AMD Athlon Processor Model 8 Revision GuideItanium based computers can cost about $20000 [...]
An Itanium 2 workstation from HP costs one sixth of $20000. -
Re:How about others (AMD, Mot, IBM)Why did you link to Google's cache?
AMD Athlon Processor Model 6 Revision Guide
AMD Athlon Processor Model 8 Revision GuideItanium based computers can cost about $20000 [...]
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Re:Recycling? Try the NSA solution
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SPOFs
there will be always a single point of failure for ever
Well, yes and no. Single points of failure are extremely difficult to find in the first place, not to mention remove, but it can be done on the hardware side. I could mention the servers formerly known as Compaq Himalaya, nowadays part of HP's NonStop Enterprise Division in some manner. Duplicated everything, from processors and power sources to I/O and all manner of computing doo-dads. Scalable from 2 to 4000 processors.
They are (or were, when I did my research piece on the Himalayas) also self-correcting in the sense that the two processors do lock-step processing and if the two differ in their opinions, the primary immediately hands over the responsibility to the redundant/backup -- data self-correcting on the assembly level. Of course, this doesn't prevent software from being a point of failure or from functioning incorrectly, but one or a cluster of these is as close as you're going to get without automated hotswapping or nanobot parts building, or other such sci-fi notions.
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Re:What Happened to the tabletPC?
Compaq Tablet PC
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Another pointless "Ask Slashdot"
Dear Slashdot,Please do my job for me. Plz k thx bye.
HP 8 * 200Gb Ultrium Autoloader
Just make sure you buy the library options and remote backup agent licences too.
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Re:This Has To Be Stopped
This would let you put brand X ink in the thing, and when brand X ink ruins the printer (that ink is corrosive, by the way) you sent the hole mess back to HP and demand a replacement or repair at HP's expense.
I very highly doubt that warranty claims are the reason for not wanting third party carts. Using the DJ 3300 as an example, the warranty is only 90 days (found in this PDF file). Also note the cart capacity in that PDF, a whopping 10ml. -
Re:This Has To Be Stopped
This would let you put brand X ink in the thing, and when brand X ink ruins the printer (that ink is corrosive, by the way) you sent the hole mess back to HP and demand a replacement or repair at HP's expense.
I very highly doubt that warranty claims are the reason for not wanting third party carts. Using the DJ 3300 as an example, the warranty is only 90 days (found in this PDF file). Also note the cart capacity in that PDF, a whopping 10ml. -
Five easy steps.
1. Education - Get educated about what information security is all about, you should know what C.I.A. stands for (in infosec, not the US federal agency), you should know what a security policy is, understand risk management and mitigation, and known what criminals/attackers can do in your organization.
You can get a lot of this from several books and websites, such as Secrets and Lies by Bruce Schneier, the SANS Reading Room, if you can afford it SANS/GIAC training and/or certification may be of benefit to you and your org, the CISSP and SSCP Open Study Guides even if you don't go for CISSP or SSCP (I don't recommend paying any money to ISC^2), and Security Focus.
2. Audit - This step is critical and too many places forget to do it. You need to know what you are trying to secure, yet most organizations do not have a complete picture of their network and all the systems on it. This includes security and non-security issues (e.g. software licenses, maintenance patches, standardization)
Tools like those from IBM Tivoli or HP Openview can help here. For security specific vulnerability analyzer, open-source Nessus and eEye's Retina, ISS's Internet Scanner
3. Policy - You need a plan and a document to give you and others guidenance, and this if your infosec policy.
Large orgs should consider BS 7799 or ISO 17799 whereas smaller groups can look at Center for Internet Security for benchmarks, and SANS Reading Room - Auditing and Assessment, and Site Security Handbook - RFC 2196.
4. Implement -- Using your education, audits and policies you can now implement decent security.
Basic principles of defence in depth, fail-safe, separation of privilege, and complexity is the enemy of security can guide you to build a practical network of secured systems that limits exposure to criminal activities, and minimizes damage from attacks.
5. Be vigilant - "Security is a process, not a product" - Bruce Schneier
Now the work begins, up to now it was the fun stuff, now you get to dig in with boring but important tasks such as analyzing log files, maintaining a accurate asset database, applying patches, maintaining user accounts, periodic audits (internal and if you can afford it and it is warranted, external), educating users, and maintaining your security posture. -
Re:FX32! for Itanium
Not - necessarily. I can speculate but. I dont know the exact details about the emulation but I can guess what is happening. Over the past few years, dynamic compilation, optimization and dynamic execution layer interface projects and papers have been doing the rounds in academic community. For example dynamo where a dynamic optimizer (which takes code and performs run time optimization on it - not emulation or translation) showed that the apps in fact ran *faster* even counting the overhead of optimization. This idea spawned DELI or dynamic execution layer interface which can dynamically translate instructions *as well as* perform optimizations on them using run time information. Researchers claim that execution is *faster* than running the same app on the native machine. All these are somewhat software equivalent of transmeta.
Now the interesting thing, both dynamo and DELI are from HP labs. So was HPL-PD an architecture that is the superset of itanium, invented and evaluated by HP waaaaaaay back (itanium is in fact based on HPL-PD). Now can the dynamic execution layer emulating x86 be based on DELI ? that is a speculation.