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IMAP providers
Nancy McGough has been compiling a list of IMAP providers for many years:
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Imap services comparison
I've seen various combinations (particularly a large amount of disk space with POP), but never a really good IMAP service. If someone knows of one please let me know!
You can find a rather extensive listing of imap providers including cost, storage space, special services, bad implementations, user satisfaction etc. here:
http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/imap/isps/
The site is really a mess since everything is contained in a single page and you have to scroll a few kilometers down to find the comparison tables. However, it lists several hundred IMAP providers and contains a lot of useful information. -
I'd consider consulting with the following...
I'm by no means a developer though I read up on email technology and providers all the time.
I'd consider contacting the good folks at:
http://www.fastmail.fm/
they provide one of the fastest and most standards compliant IMAP, pop3, and SMTP services I've ever used
They support lots of bandwidth and storage and low costs using, AFAIK, all open-source software at a seemingly low cost per user
Also, the individual who maintains the following website might be of good assistance to you:
http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/imap/isps/
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http://www.ii.com/ -
I'd consider consulting with the following...
I'm by no means a developer though I read up on email technology and providers all the time.
I'd consider contacting the good folks at:
http://www.fastmail.fm/
they provide one of the fastest and most standards compliant IMAP, pop3, and SMTP services I've ever used
They support lots of bandwidth and storage and low costs using, AFAIK, all open-source software at a seemingly low cost per user
Also, the individual who maintains the following website might be of good assistance to you:
http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/imap/isps/
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http://www.ii.com/ -
IMAP
Just something I came across:
Procmail stuff - lots of links http://www.ii.com/internet/robots/procmail/qs/
Anyway - I once came across a recipe to use Cyrus to copy every incoming email into folders indexed under
-date received
-FROM: domain
-size?
-other things?
Because Cyrus (it's strange dealing with software I share a name with :) has a database format, copies are cheap and, presumably, the same message can exist in a number of places under INBOX without adding any extra storage requirements. I guess procmail or sieve coud do this.
Anybody know where this page went (or has come up with a recipe for something similar)? I think it's a wonderful idea.
You could look under "1995, April" or under "from mit.edu" and find the message you're looking for. Zoe I guess would do just as well but I thought this was a neat idea when I saw it a few years ago?
Is anybody using Sieve out there?
Here's a page I found on Cyrus IMAP on FreeBSD. -
Re:Get a better account
Or how about an IMAP provider which also offers webmail?
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Fastmail and SpamgourmetHi guys,
I've been using both Fastmail.fm and Spamgourmet for over a year. Both services are free and very useful.
Fastmail provides a ad-free web-based and free access to IMAP. Spamgourmet provides a free full-featured email alias system. Using both of those free services, I get essentially no spam. I haven't gotten a single message of spam to my fastmail address ever in fact. I've found the information provided at Infinite Ink provides balanced reviews of free and pay-mail providers. Fastmail, in my opinion, is the most reliable free provider I've ever used along with the best web interface I've ever found.
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Re:I guess IMAP and non-GUI are not "next generati
I think you are disagreeing with my comment on Pine being even better than Mulberry. They are both excellent at IMAP. I just like some things that Pine does better.
I didn't make this page, but I agree with most of what Nancy has to say.
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Re: expert rules & methodology, bayes overrate
FYI, spamd is installed by default on pair.com accounts; you can call spamc from procmail. I spent most of yesterday afternoon setting it up, along with Spam Assassin and a nifty server side IMAP filtering... It's nothing revolutionary, but it's satisfying to have it setup
;)Spam Assassin has bayes, but I've been getting 99% so far without it; expert rules work amazingly well, no need for learning. Methodology is the best way to foil spam. Have at least two/three email addresses: one public address (minimizing public exposure), one email as default reply-to (except for mailing lists) and optionally one address for close friends only. You can keep a low spam threshold then without much to worry about...
The idea of sorting the spam folder by score by injecting the rating into the subject (from this article on Reverse Spam Filtering) works wonders and it's easy to setup with procmail. If things get worse, I'll most likely be setting up temporary addresses that expire within weeks (for website contact & feedback), or a password system with password and explanation posted with contact details on my homepage)... it's almost as good as GPG/PGP for this purpose without the inconveniences for the other party.
I actually look forward to getting spam now!! hehe
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Re:Still usefulI used mutt for the longest time but after trying Pine I realised that mutt's IMAP support just doesn't compare to Pine's. For some links related to this, check this page out (scroll down to the IMAP section).
Another advantage Pine has over mutt is its ability to store address books and configuration files on remote IMAP servers, thus allowing me to always have the same config and updated addresses no matter where I login from. Before flaming please keep in mind that I haven't used mutt since version 1.2.4 was out, if a lot has changed and features like the ones I've mentioned have been added then please feel free to provide more information.
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Re:Options?
one word, PC-Pine . I haven't see anything else more user-friendly than that. No viruses to be afraid of. Remote/secure access via IMAP/SSL. You are able to navigate with your keyboard. Handles attachments. Here's Why Some People Think Pine is for Wimps (and Why They're Wrong) . Now, if only PC-pine had threaded view of messages (like mutt). Note, the Unix version of pine has a patch which lets you view threaded view of mail, but PC-pine being closed source, we cannot benefit from that patch.
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Re:Normally...
as I use a Unix based mail client, I cannot block addresses.
On Unix, filtering mail is normally done by Procmail, not by your mail client. See this excellent tutorial.
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Re:only a slight improvement
...than email can be filtered server-side to cull it out.
I can do that already far more effectively using tools like procmail and SpamAssassin. SpamAssassin in turn can use various RBLs and Vipul's Razor (recently mentioned here), if you choose to.
That combination has saved me from recieving and processing about 20 messages in my personal mail today alone, not to mention the other benefits of auto-filing/trashing/redirecting that using procmail gives me. -
Cygwin!If Cygwin is runnable from windows telnet, you're all set -- just run Pine, or any other Unix mail client. You could even support X apps, if the concept of GUI doesn't totally offend you.
If Cygwin doesn't run under telnet, you might be able to run a telnet server under Cygwin. Same result.
Here's a useful page that covers Pine, Cygwin, and other related topics.
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Oops! Bad URLs
One URL there was mangled; here's the right post:
Yes. I I use blcheck for this, with qmail-qfilter to put it right into the SMTP chain, although you can use it with procmail, too. That way users can use their mail clients to decide what to trash and what to keep. -
Re:can MAPS/ORBS be advisory to users?
Yes. I I use blcheck for this, with to put it right into the SMTP chain, although you can use it with procmail, too. That way users can use their mail clients to decide what to trash and what to keep.