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P2P + CC + donations ?

Well that's Jamendo !

It's interesting that France, home of almost-legal p2p for copyrighted files, is also the center of activity for Jamendo, which is one of the most interesting and innovative, non-controversial ways to use peer file sharing software. It's a music sharing website, but all artists release their music under Creative Commons licenses, and you can download albums on eMule or BitTorrent networks, which saves Jamendo on bandwidth.

I would have assumed that encouraging legal downloading of mainstream, copyrighted files would have discouraged the growth of shared, open alternatives. But the opposite seems to be true.

I truly would like to see a less corporate model, in which the artist gets paid more fairly, and where artist and fan have a better relationship.

Jamendo: Listen and Donate.

SF is the most important one for me, but it is not an information or reference site. So here is my list: freshmeat, slashdot, linuxfr, gnu.org, java.net, osnews, jesuislibre.
Now let's not forget music: Jamendo.

> collecting societies in smaller European countries fear
> that they will lose out to larger rivals, potentially
> restricting the development of new music

LOL... "new music" isn't dependent on collection societies. People driven by the desire to make art create 'new music'. Check out Jamendo or the podsafe stuff or Staccato for tons of great stuff outside the 'business'.

There are 270+ complete albums on Jamendo ! All delivered under a Creative Commons Licence using BitTorrent.

http://www.jamendo.com/

You should better try http://jamendo.com/

Full albums on torrents (ogg AND mp3).

Lot of crap but lot of good things too : Both, Emma, ...

And if you're an artist, go on and share your work !

Do they have applied a discount for all the P2P users getting legit content from :

http://www.jamendo.com/
or
http://www.archive.org/audio/collection.php?collec tion=opensource_audio
or
http://www.legaltorrents.com/
or
http://bt.etree.org/
or
http://torrents.gentoo.org/
or
http://www.debian.org/CD/torrent-cd/
or ....

See a list of legitimate content at the end of this page :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent

Jamendo distributes music under Creative Commons Licence using BitTorrent.

It's legal, it's Peer2peer, it's BitTorrent, and most important, it's good music !

Today most of the content is french speaking pop/rock, the system is free, is open to other artists.

http://www.jamendo.com/index.php?langs=en

some english speaking content :
http://www.jamendo.com/index.php?p=music&g=all&l=U SA&o=rating_asc

Jamendo distributes music under Creative Commons Licence using BitTorrent.

It's legal, it's Peer2peer, it's BitTorrent, and most important, it's good music !

Today most of the content is french speaking pop/rock, the system is free, is open to other artists.

http://www.jamendo.com/index.php?langs=en

some english speaking content :
http://www.jamendo.com/index.php?p=music&g=all&l=U SA&o=rating_asc

Jamendo distributes music under Creative Commons Licence using BitTorrent.

It's legal, it's Peer2peer, it's BitTorrent, and most important, it's good music !

Today most of the content is french speaking pop/rock, the system is free, is open to other artists.

http://www.jamendo.com/index.php?langs=en

some english speaking content :
http://www.jamendo.com/index.php?p=music&g=all&l=U SA&o=rating_asc

TV shows are FREE as beer, but they are the property of their authors or their channels.

They broadcast them on TV under their terms (ads, logo, ...) for free, but why would that mean that you can download them without their terms ? They don't authorize you to watch the show without complying to their terms. They can.

People don't understand that. You can argue P2P helps shows. I'm ok with you. Still, it's illegal.

So please somebody start a company broadcasting TV shows WITH ads under a CC-by-nc-nd license and bittorrent.

That already exists for music albums : http://www.jamendo.com/ and it rocks !

It's nice to see that free services like that are flourishing...

jamendo does it too, for CC music albums, and they use bittorrent.

For really DRM-free songs, check out jamendo.com : It's Creative Commons plus P2P plus Ogg Vorbis !!

... because they can't shutdown legal Creative Commons licensed materials...

For a great example of CC + P2P, see jamendo.com

LegalTorrents, Torrentocracy, Prodigem, bt.etree ...

See previous story

Try indy music, using your favorite BitTorrent client to download legal content. It will be harder for the trafic police to stop BitTorrent as a general infriging technology.

If you want to follow the example of Bram who only downloads legal stuff, you can test your brand new BT 4.0 client with the excellent Wired CD, in Ogg Vorbis :

Wired CD .torrent

there's one more... CC music + BitTorrent + iRATE + Ogg Vorbis : jamendo

*** Disclaimer : I'm one of the founder of Jamendo ***

Reading this /. thread, sorry about this, I can't resist explaining what we're doing here in Luxembourg.

We started jamendo beginning of 2005. The aim of Jamendo is to help artists use P2P technologies and particulary BitTorrent to get to a larger audience. We combine Creative Commons Licence with BitTorrent to have artists publish their work, and promote a legal use of BitTorrent or eMule or Shareaza or ...

Thanks to our jamloader , artists put their demo CD in their PC/Mac/Linux and automagically their work get published as a torrent on jamendo and accessible with eMule. The software rips the CD to FLAC, ask to choose one of the 6 creative commons licenses and uploads the datas to our servers. On our servers we do the rip in other various formats, Ogg, MP3, AAC, and do the creative commons watermarking. We also do some kind of community moderation, in order to avoid the ones that upload the latest Britney Spears or the ones that upload the latest neo-nazy band. Bands have to link back to our website from their official website as a control ( see godon for exemple )

Finally we use iRate as our core technology to do the rating of the music, and do intelligent propositions to our audience. Our XMLRPC-iRate server ( http://irate.jamendo.com/ ) supports the latest features of the iRate protocol but today, there's not enough client software, but we have the project to write our jamplayer that will combine iRate and BitTorrent and foxytunes.

What about the money ? Our business model differs from the one of magnatune for instance ( I quote magnatune because John Buckman made a very nice and cool entry in his blog, thanks again to him). We have a more ad-centric model were the service is free for the artists, is free for the audience, but the web pages are ad supported (no popup), the streamed music may be ad-supported up to 1 audio ad every 3 songs, the published archive in P2P networks are high quality archives with no ads. The idea is : bandwidth heavy is ad-supported, bandwidth friendly (i.e. BitTorrent) is ad-free ! We are not a label but rather a "community driven music hosting company" , we allow the bands to put their paypal button to receive donation on their jamendo page, jamendo takes no margin.

Sorry again /. crowd to present our project in this thread, but I really felt it was on topic ! So if you want to listen to indy music coming from Luxembourg, Belgium and North of France point your favorite BitTorrent client to jamendo.

Laurent.

Don't bother with semi-legal websites like allofmp3.com

Check out jamendo for Creative Commons music you can download via P2P without fearing to be caught by the RIAA.....

Creative Commons music is really taking on on P2P...

Check this :

http://www.jamendo.com

It's Creative Commons Music + BitTorrent + iRATE + Ogg Vorbis... Awesome ! That's why P2P has to survive !