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Don't forget Darwin either. (3rd story down)

You forgot to mention that their OS is called "Darwin", and it's symbol is a platypus - wait for it - dressed up as the devil! I could go on, but it's easier to just point you here. Scroll about halfway down. Laugh your ass off. Then try to figure out whether or not it's actually a joke (sadly, I don't think it is).

Please, this subject has been rehashed a million times. OBJECTIVE:Christian Ministries is beyond any reasonable doubt a parody site, it's just much more subtle than some of the others and some of the material contained therein has been repeatedly mistaken by real Christian fundamentalists as being sympathetic to their cause. Which is why you will see some of the "Dr. Richard Paley" essays linked to or discussed around legitimate fundie websites. I assure you that doesn't mean anything.

Heck, look at this page, then look at the page it links to, become-a-christian.com. They clearly think they are being linked to by a parody site, and I think that even the creation scientists are now realizing they've been had by the OBJECTIVE site. The "campaign" against Landover Baptist is tongue in cheek like the rest of the site. If they ever exerted pressure on anybody to take down the LB site, it was only to create outrage and notoriety for themselves - part of the big hoax that is O:CM.

Please, this subject has been rehashed a million times. OBJECTIVE:Christian Ministries is beyond any reasonable doubt a parody site, it's just much more subtle than some of the others and some of the material contained therein has been repeatedly mistaken by real Christian fundamentalists as being sympathetic to their cause. Which is why you will see some of the "Dr. Richard Paley" essays linked to or discussed around legitimate fundie websites. I assure you that doesn't mean anything.

Heck, look at this page, then look at the page it links to, become-a-christian.com. They clearly think they are being linked to by a parody site, and I think that even the creation scientists are now realizing they've been had by the OBJECTIVE site. The "campaign" against Landover Baptist is tongue in cheek like the rest of the site. If they ever exerted pressure on anybody to take down the LB site, it was only to create outrage and notoriety for themselves - part of the big hoax that is O:CM.

hey didn't you hear? the US OWNs the internet http://objective.jesussave.us/shutdown.html and we should excercise our place as its owners. on a more serious note, I like the internet as it is. No one OWNs it (at least all of it) there is always a data haven we can hide in. some shady corner. some place where we have the right to place all information we want to place. No one has to read it but at least we cant be shutdown as rebels for hate speech. in the US I will have the right to hate. in other coutrys the ip laws may be loose. whatever it is the internet is a medium, a place for ideas. if we cant place our ideas for all those who wish to read, it is not internet for me.

As much as I actually did think the site was a fake ( wishful thinking ) after being told it was, I have to agree with fm6 that you've made a very weak argument here.

"A very weak argument".. Am I the only one *not* blind here?
For christ's sake, have a decent look at the two pictures before talking (one and two). The *only* difference between them is a manipulation of the eyes (which don't belong to the same person, it's quite evident) and of the colors. *Everything else* is exactly the same: look at the mouth, the nose, the hair, the tie. The pics are based on the same head shot.

I stopped answering to that other guy because I came to the conclusion that he was simply trolling. Now I don't know what to think.. is it a troll festival, or is there an epidemy of impaired eyesight?..

The manipulation *proves*, exhaustively, that the site's a fake. A brilliant satire, if you ask me - since sadly there are too many religious nuts asserting such things for real - but still a fake (luckily).

The parts which were obviously manipulated (see before and after) are:

Dr. Andrew Miller - eyes
Peggy Miller - eyes
Timothy Allmon - eyes (if you can't see this one, the problem is in *your* eyes :)
Dr. Troy Franklin - hair
Jose Rosas - mouth
Fred "Skeet" Hoskins - eyes

This is a pretty exhaustive proof that the website is a fake.

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The guy who wrote the museumofhoaxes page seems to think that the hoaxer is this this guy. If he spent 5 minutes reading the guy's web material, he'd realize that he's quite sincere, though not very bright.

Also, note that the OBJECTIVE web site was originally hosted by a Christian hosting company. Not a logical place to host a spoof!

Finally, notice how OBJECTIVE is distributing this banner demanding that the Landover site be shut down. I can't believe a spoofer would come up with the slogan "He didn't give His life to be mocked!", no matter how mock-serious he was trying to be.

It's pretty easy to "prove" that something on the web is bogus. You pick at little inconsistencies, and you ignore the contrary evidence. I've been accused of being a non-existant person more than once. The last time was on Slashdot, where I had a story accepted gushing about a new TV show I was enthusiastic about. Several people "proved" that I was a pseudo-person invented just to plug the show. Never mind that already had a couple thousand Slashdot posts in my history!

I don't feel like digging up this material again just to argue with you

I definitely don't need you to do it..
As i posted in a correction, the link I attached to the word 'proof' was wrong. The actual proof is here.

To sum it up: this is the members page as it is now, and this is what it was (it's stored in a cache site). The faces of the members were obviously edited (compare the eyes, especially. Arguably, they did it in order not to use the face of some actual people). This pretty much proves that the whole website is a fake.

OTOH, I totally agree that the anti-evolution movement is a reality (sadly). It's enough to look at what happens in some schools, as the CEO of the AAAS (the association that publishes Science) is denouncing.

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And you can sleep with the devil!

Mod parent up! That link is f*ckin' hilarious.. I didn't know about it, thank you so much for posting it
And the whole site is well worth a tour. If there's one thing I'm sorry for is that I'm too lazy to list here all the things that cracked me up :D
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And you can sleep with the devil!

You're not the first to make this observation: http://objective.jesussave.us/propaganda.html

Not only satanist, but also Evolutionist Propaganda

The demon logo bugs the suits? So don't put it on a box, honestly, they'll never know, what are they going to do, go to a truly technical website?

I say we all submit a ton of _truly_ offensive logos, and send the idea of changing the demon back to the overly religous cultural backwater it came from.

Seriously, these people are insane. Click that last link and scan down to where it says "Apple Macintosh". Religious fundamentalists are, once again, doing their best to destory science, intellectual discussion, and human society. We must all work to stop them.

Look at the ad on the bottom of that JesusSave.us site: http://www.preparingdaughters.com/
"PreparingDaughters.com, Dedidcated to building up Godly young ladies. *Now With Recipes!*"

Jesus H. Christ, they're cooking their children! These sickos must be stopped.

That whole web site is hilarious. Apparently not too many people realize it's a joke..as seen here

However, these propagandists aren't just targeting the young. Take for example Apple Computers, makers of the popular Macintosh line of computers. The real operating system hiding under the newest version of the Macintosh operating system (MacOS X) is called... Darwin! That's right, new Macs are based on Darwinism! While they currently don't advertise this fact to consumers, it is well known among the computer elite, who are mostly Atheists and Pagans. Furthermore, the Darwin OS is released under an "Open Source" license, which is just another name for Communism. They try to hide all of this under a facade of shiny, "lickable" buttons, but the truth has finally come out: Apple Computers promote Godless Darwinism and Communism.
But is this really such a shock? Lets look for a moment at Apple Computers. Founded by long haired hippies, this company has consistently supported 60's counter-cultural "values"2. But there are even darker undertones to this company than most are aware of. Consider the name of the company and its logo: an apple with a bite taken out of it. This is clearly a reference to the Fall, when Adam and Eve were tempted with an apple3 by the serpent. It is now Apple Computers offering us temptation, thereby aligning themselves with the forces of darkness4. This company is well known for its cult-like following. It isn't much of a stretch to say that it is a cult. Consider co-founder and leader Steve Jobs' constant exhortation through advertising (i.e. mind control) that its followers should "think different". We have to ask ourselves: "think different than whom or what?" The disturbing answer is that they want us to think different than our Christian upbringing, to reject all the values that we have been taught and to heed not the message of the Lord Jesus Christ!

It appears we have entered a terrible new phase in the Evolutionism propaganda campaign that Apple Computers has been waging. Apple has just announced the "eMac", a Macintosh computer designed specifically to smuggle Darwinism into our schools! According to their propagandistic sloganeering, the "e" in "eMac" ostensibly stands for "education", although it should be obvious to readers by now that it's really a cryptic tipping of the hat to their true agenda: "Evolutionism". However, this isn't the only thing hiding behind this choice of moniker; according to my research, the name eMac is also a referrence to "Emacs", a program that is a standard-bearer for the Communistic Open Source movement mentioned above and whose mascot is some sort of effeminate-looking, horned devil-man. Is there no end to this tangled web of evil?

The courts are forgetting about the children! Children with righteous artwork

How about kid's crafts: Make a nail just like the ones used by the Romans to crucify Our Lord! Whoa, holy educational.

"Caution: Pointy edges. Not for children under 5."

Just look at what these brilliant scientists of tomorrow have discovered

1st Place: "My Uncle Is A Man Named Steve (Not A Monkey)"

One of my personal favorites

2nd Place: "Women Were Designed For Homemaking"

Jonathan Goode (grade 7) applied findings from many fields of science to support his conclusion that God designed women for homemaking: physics shows that women have a lower center of gravity than men, making them more suited to carrying groceries and laundry baskets; biology shows that women were designed to carry un-born babies in their wombs and to feed born babies milk, making them the natural choice for child rearing; social sciences show that the wages for women workers are lower than for normal workers, meaning that they are unable to work as well and thus earn equal pay; and exegetics shows that God created Eve as a companion for Adam, not as a co-worker.

(P.S. that site is for real)

what about all the people insisting on teaching creationism in school as an alternative theory to evolution in biology classes?

Fellowship Baptist Creation Science Fair 2001

The difference is, Christians do not take Bible as the literal words of God.

Go tell that to the Young Earth Creationists. Most Christians in the USA believe (or at least claim to believe) in the Bible as the literal Word of God. 61% believe in creation from Genesis. 60% believe in Noah's Flood.

Go look at the nutters at the Creation Science Fair, for example. (I was originally sure this site was a parody, but am becoming less and less convinced of that as time goes on.) Middle School level, 2nd place, "Women were designed for homemaking."

Check this out

The link works for me. Gee, maybe our religious extremists are not less crazy than their religious extremists.

Not only is the writing sadly funny, but I learned something. I learned that the Apple Darwin logo is named Hexley.

FreeBSD is not alone in this, as can be seen from why Mac is bad ;-)

But there are even darker undertones to this company than most are aware of. Consider the name of the company and its logo: an apple with a bite taken out of it. This is clearly a reference to the Fall, when Adam and Eve were tempted with an apple3 by the serpent. It is now Apple Computers offering us temptation, thereby aligning themselves with the forces of darkness.

No of course it's not.

bullsh*t

kangaroos ran from the ark to australia...6000 years ago....when there was a land bridge there. duh....

If that freaks you out, perhaps you should read what this loon says about the symbology your Apple!

Now, I will concede you this point; if the logo were, say, goatse, I would probably look for another browser too... but while that would be very offensive to most people, I just don't see how their current image is too divisive.

One more similar hilarious joke site:

Creationist Science Fair

Meme viruses are not new, but this is the most stupid that I've seen. Remember jdbmgr.exe? There's also a lot of non-technical ones but the distinction between good meme and bad meme becomes a bit dependant on your point of view.

Scroll to the Apple section

The proof is here

Apple Computers, the evil makers of the popular Macintosh line of computers are guilty of sin. The real operating system hiding under the newest version of the Macintosh operating system (MacOS X) is called... Darwin! That's right, new Macs are based on Darwinism! While they currently don't advertise this fact to consumers, it is well known among the computer elite, who are mostly Atheists and Pagans. Furthermore, the Darwin OS is released under an "Open Source" license, which is just another name for Communism. They try to hide all of this under a facade of shiny, "lickable" buttons, but the truth has finally come out: Apple Computers promote Godless Darwinism and Communism.

But is this really such a shock? Lets look for a moment at Apple Computers. Founded by long haired hippies, this company has consistently supported 60's counter-cultural "values"2. But there are even darker undertones to this company than most are aware of. Consider the name of the company and its logo: an apple with a bite taken out of it. This is clearly a reference to the Fall, when Adam and Eve were tempted with an apple3 by the serpent. It is now Apple Computers offering us temptation, thereby aligning themselves with the forces of darkness4.

This company is well known for its cult-like following. It isn't much of a stretch to say that it is a cult. Consider co-founder and leader Steve Jobs' constant exhortation through advertising (i.e. mind control) that its followers should "think different". We have to ask ourselves: "think different than whom or what?" The disturbing answer is that they want us to think different than our Christian upbringing, to reject all the values that we have been taught and to heed not the message of the Lord Jesus Christ!

Given the now obvious anti-Christian and cultish nature of Apple Computers, is it any wonder that they have decided to base their newest operating system on Darwinism? This just reaffirms the position that Darwinism is an inherently anti-Christian philosophy spread through propaganda and subliminal trickery, not a science as its brainwashed followers would have us believe.

Wow Apple can't win. Not only do the Christians
so do the Satanists!

That site is a hoax, like Landover but subtle enough that most people don't figure it out. I can't find it anymore but on their "4KIDZ" page they had a peppered moth teaching about creationism. No real creationists would ever mention the peppered moth, unless they were trying to discredit the evidence. There are lots of other things that are just a bit too ridiculous to be real. That's not to say that real creationists aren't ridiculous, but they don't explicitly point out the hilarious consequences of their beliefs, like kangaroos in the Middle East. If you don't know any of these people it's easy to think this site represents their views, but it's just a little bit over the top.

Try explaining that to some people.

Apple, BSD, daemon processes... They just see their own association and fit it to whatever ideological conditioning they've been reared on, before propagating the next generation in the perpetual cycle of ignorance and fear...

Heretics? This will join the FreeBSD devil and "Darwin" on Objective's list as to why Open Source is the spawn of the Devil.

I've seen that site before, however, and my friends and I disagree on whether or not it's a joke site, a la http://www.landoverbaptist.org/. I partly of the opinion it's a joke. No one could be that big of an idiot, right? Right?

Well, let's hope not. This, though, is quite interesting. It would certainly complete the joke.

As another poster mentioned, this was copied from here. But here's something extra, about BSD:

ADDENDUM III (4/20/2002): Another reader (it has been busy today!) has informed me of another link between Apple and the forces of darkness that my initial research missed. Apparently the Darwin OS is not the original creation of Apple Computers but is instead based off of an older, obsolete OS called "BSD Unix". The child-indoctrinatingly-cute cartoon mascot of this OS is a devil holding a pitchfork (pictured right) [Picture is here. This OS -- and its Darwin offspring -- extensively use what are called "daemons" (which is how Pagans write "demon" -- they are notoriously poor spellers: magick, vampyre, etc.) which is a program that hides in the background, doing things without the user's notice. If you are using a new Macintosh running OS X then you probably have these "daemons" on your computer, hardly something a good Christian would want! This clearly illustrates that not only is Macintosh based on Darwinism, but Darwinism is based on Satanism.

So, all you BSDers, prepare to go to hell! mu ha ha ha...

As another poster mentioned, this was copied from here. But here's something extra, about BSD:

ADDENDUM III (4/20/2002): Another reader (it has been busy today!) has informed me of another link between Apple and the forces of darkness that my initial research missed. Apparently the Darwin OS is not the original creation of Apple Computers but is instead based off of an older, obsolete OS called "BSD Unix". The child-indoctrinatingly-cute cartoon mascot of this OS is a devil holding a pitchfork (pictured right) [Picture is here. This OS -- and its Darwin offspring -- extensively use what are called "daemons" (which is how Pagans write "demon" -- they are notoriously poor spellers: magick, vampyre, etc.) which is a program that hides in the background, doing things without the user's notice. If you are using a new Macintosh running OS X then you probably have these "daemons" on your computer, hardly something a good Christian would want! This clearly illustrates that not only is Macintosh based on Darwinism, but Darwinism is based on Satanism.

So, all you BSDers, prepare to go to hell! mu ha ha ha...

I found your post very humerous and I realize it was in jest, but if your gonna act like a religious zelot, atleast try to make sense looking like one.

I've seen that site before, however, and my friends and I disagree on whether or not it's a joke site, a la http://www.landoverbaptist.org/. I partly of the opinion it's a joke. No one could be that big of an idiot, right? Right?

Thanks, Dr. Richard Paley. BTW, the iron core of the moon still reverberates with the original aramaic words that created the universe.

Thanks, Dr. Richard Paley. BTW, the iron core of the moon still reverberates with the original aramaic words that created the universe.

here

That reminds me of an article about a "Creationist Science Fair". There are some really great science experiments here . I especially like the experiment "Women Were Designed For Homemaking". This kid is way too advanced for the 7th grade.

People who try to inject God's will into the US government are most often arrogant, naive, and ignorant Christians who think their rules are superior to any others (again violating the First Amendment).

Yeah, and they are the same morons that organize events like this one