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planet.gnome.org - Switched site with planet.kde.org
planet.kde.org - Switched site with "could not be found"

Looks like the KDE people pulled a fool of their own...

Isn't April Fools Day just the best? =] For a 'full' list of sites pulling pranks today check out this list here

Here is a sample:

kellyosbourne.org - Sanctuary records group shut us down
nukefreezone.net - Making fun of atrios.blogspot.com
weebl.jolt.co.uk - Replaced with Cats-By-Mail
telecom.co.nz - Click 2 Brick
ytmnd.com - (NSFW) hacked by teens for christ
wingus.ampedhost.com - Site converted into Mingus' Gently-Used Furniture store. Oh dear. Why won't he be kind?
homestarrunner.com - Now a pay service.
whirlpool.net.au - Australia's biggest Luddite to head Australia's largest telco
thinkgeek.com - Fake product listings.
theregister.co.uk - Bush twins to join Air Force tech unit in Iraq
creativebits.org - Site purchased by Microsoft
ocremix.org - Now partnered with EA (or something like that). Called EA ReMix.
spacedaily.com - Bush Cancels Space Shuttle Program
planet.gnome.org - Switched sites with planet.kde.org
planet.kde.org - Switched sites with planet.gnome.org
ietf.org - RFC: Efficient Transformation Formats of Unicode
beejaysworld.de - Gentoo dropping livecds for x86
nature.com - Apollo bacteria spur lunar erosion
antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov - Water On Mars
smh.com.au - (Free Reg Req) SMEGmail offers 1 terabyte storage
smh.com.au - (Free Reg Req) Linux looks to Hilton for exposure
thetoque.com - Canada Builds Own Missile Defense Shield
onion.com - U.S. Dog Owners Fear Arrival of Africanized Fleas
chron.com - Bush Twins in Maxim
ask.com - Jeeves has been replaced by a robot
animenewsnetwork.com - Viz Unlicenses Naruto
uninventthewheel.co.uk - New BMW technology to get around the EU ban on right hand drive cars in Europe.
newgrounds.com - changing to numagrounds.com
neopets.com - neopets adds 50 new pets
www.firstloox.org - The Loox is being recalled
packages.gentoo.org - Adobe doesn't sell products for Linux
pc.ign.com - Microsoft World of Wordcraft (Extremely Obvious)
spamusement.com - Page full of spoof banner ads
gentooexperimental.org - Gentoo using the NT kernel
moddb.com

For a full list of sites that pulled April Fools Day Pranks this year check out this list here -

Here is a sampling:

dotget.net - Microsoft to put P2P software .GET into next version of Windows
kylewenda.com - the government records your phone calls... scary
rfc-editor.org - RFC for "Requirements for Morality Sections in Routing Area Drafts"
planet.gentoo.org - Various things, CFLAGS, etc
fark.com - Many Jokes (keep reloading): BOOBIES!, Logged in as admin, North-Central Kentucky Bunghole-Discharge, page from 1999, BEER
2600.com - Formal Attire required for 2600 meetings today
forumsector.com - Changed the name to Nascar Sector
wikipedia.org - Britannica taking over Wikimedia
google.com - Google releases Google Gulp
kellyosbourne.org - Sanctuary records group shut us down
nukefreezone.net - Making fun of atrios.blogspot.com
weebl.jolt.co.uk - Replaced with Cats-By-Mail
wingus.ampedhost.com - Site converted into Mingus' Gently-Used Furniture store. Oh dear. Why won't he be kind?
homestarrunner.com - Now a pay service.
whirlpool.net.au - Australia's biggest Luddite to head Australia's largest telco
theregister.co.uk - Bush twins to join Air Force tech unit in Iraq
creativebits.org - Site purchased by Microsoft
ocremix.org - Now partnered with EA (or something like that). Called EA ReMix.
spacedaily.com - Bush Cancels Space Shuttle Program
planet.gnome.org - Switched sites with planet.kde.org
planet.kde.org - Switched sites with planet.gnome.org
ietf.org - RFC: Efficient Transformation Formats of Unicode
beejaysworld.de - Gentoo dropping livecds for x86
nature.com - Apollo bacteria spur lunar erosion
antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov - Water On Mars

For a full list of sites that pulled April Fools Day Pranks this year check out this list here Here is a sampling: dotget.net - Microsoft to put P2P software .GET into next version of Windows
kylewenda.com - the government records your phone calls... scary
rfc-editor.org - RFC for "Requirements for Morality Sections in Routing Area Drafts"
waferbaby.com - amusing php error
planet.gentoo.org - Various things, CFLAGS, etc
fark.com - Many Jokes (keep reloading): BOOBIES!, Logged in as admin, North-Central Kentucky Bunghole-Discharge, page from 1999, BEER
2600.com - Formal Attire required for 2600 meetings today
forumsector.com - Changed the name to Nascar Sector
wikipedia.org - Britannica taking over Wikimedia
google.com - Google releases Google Gulp
kellyosbourne.org - Sanctuary records group shut us down
nukefreezone.net - Making fun of atrios.blogspot.com
weebl.jolt.co.uk - Replaced with Cats-By-Mail
telecom.co.nz - Click 2 Brick
ytmnd.com - (NSFW) hacked by teens for christ
wingus.ampedhost.com - Site converted into Mingus' Gently-Used Furniture store. Oh dear. Why won't he be kind?
homestarrunner.com - Now a pay service.
whirlpool.net.au - Australia's biggest Luddite to head Australia's largest telco
thinkgeek.com - Fake product listings.
theregister.co.uk - Bush twins to join Air Force tech unit in Iraq
creativebits.org - Site purchased by Microsoft
ocremix.org - Now partnered with EA (or something like that). Called EA ReMix.
spacedaily.com - Bush Cancels Space Shuttle Program
planet.gnome.org - Switched sites with planet.kde.org
planet.kde.org - Switched sites with planet.gnome.org
ietf.org - RFC: Efficient Transformation Formats of Unicode
beejaysworld.de - Gentoo dropping livecds for x86
nature.com - Apollo bacteria spur lunar erosion
antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov - Water On Mars

KDE has nothing to do with Mono. The author probably meant Ximian Gnome, but that doesn't even make the statement true, and wtf does Mono have to do with Java?

Think so?

Well take a look at this commit by the KDE CVS administrator Davbin Muellov ;-)

Ironic since Miguel de Icaza only started GNOME after being thrown out of KDE.

"a useful offline help system"

Yeah, well... I can't help you there. Just about every desktop has decided to roll their own rather than use established systems (info, man).

"a useful offline help system"

Yeah, well... I can't help you there. Just about every desktop has decided to roll their own rather than use established systems (info, man).

"a useful offline help system"

Yeah, well... I can't help you there. Just about every desktop has decided to roll their own rather than use established systems (info, man).

GTK developers: please stop depending on GNOME-specific packages!! when i want a cute little program for a slim little purpose to run on my less mainstream enlightenment setup, i *don't* want to install an entire DE that i never use!! please write programs independant of GNOME *and* KDE. both Qt and Gtk are perfectly fine libraries by themselves, without the additional bloat!

The problem here is that you're seeing everything from the end-user perspective. There's a whole heck of a lot more to GNOME and KDE than icons, panels, and menus. While GTK and Qt are full-featured widget libraries, that's about all they ever do. (Qt might do a bit more besides widgets, I honestly haven't checked.)

But let's say, for example, that I'm a developer running KDE on the desktop and I want to write a "cute little program". Qt plus an assortment of other libraries would do the trick just fine, of course. But If I instead decided to leverage the power of all the services that KDE provides, I could save myself a ton of work, have it nicely integrate into my existing desktop, and add a lot of nifty features later on with very little effort. Do I write it with Qt or with KDE?

The current KDE 3.0 API Reference lists a metric shedload of classes that could be highly useful even with the simplest of programs, including widget handling, pre-made dialogs, local file and network resource abstraction, a facility to pass messages between apps. Heck, you even drop entire KDE applications into your app with little effort. For example, KDE's answer to Outlook and Evolution, Kontact, is really just 5 or so other KDE programs bound together by a dinky little left-hand icon bar and this works extremely well. Sure does beats writing an entire office suite from scratch, doesn't it?

While Kontact is a testament to the power of KDE's overall integration and API (I'm sure GNOME has its shining example or two, as well), the author of some "cute litle program" probably doesn't want to go out reinventing more than they have to, and the GNOME and KDE APIs make writing these little apps a snap.

Eyecandy

--
Evan

Maybe we should implement XUL in KHTML too?

KaXUL: presentation, code. As far as I know, it has not been worked on in the past 18 months, but the proof of concept is there, so it's certainly feasible.

> Little known fact: kubuntu means to defecate.
oh really?

According to this source it actually does not only sound like one: http://dot.kde.org/1111118006/1111143814/

Yes there is, and you can get it here. Klax is based off of a release candidate from a few weeks ago, but it is almost functionally identical to the final release.

>Call me ignorant, but what does KDE have to do with BSD?
No can do. I hate to call people names.
http://freebsd.kde.org/
--
Being able to read *other people's* source code is a nice thing, not a 'fundamental freedom'.

Heh, yeah. But surely the complete translation of the GUI into British English, along with sizeable portions of the GUI translated into Welsh and Irish Gaelic, there's plenty of opportunity for usage this side of the pond.

http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-3.4.php

Highlights at a glance

* Text-to-speech system with support built into Konqueror, Kate, KPDF and the standalone application KSayIt
* Support for text to speech synthesis is integrated with the desktop
* Completely redesigned, more flexible trash system
* Kicker with improved look and feel
* KPDF now enables you to select, copy & paste text and images from PDFs, along with many other improvements
* Kontact supports now various groupware servers, including eGroupware, GroupWise, Kolab, OpenGroupware.org and SLOX
* Kopete supports Novell Groupwise and Lotus Sametime and gets integrated into Kontact
* DBUS/HAL support allows to keep dynamic device icons in media:/ and on the desktop in sync with the state of all devices
* KHTML has improved standard support and now close to full support for CSS 2.1 and the CSS 3 Selectors module
* Better synchronization between 2 PCs
* A new high contrast style and a complete monochrome icon set
* An icon effect to paint all icons in two chosen colors, converting third party application icons into high contrast monochrome icons
* Akregator allows you to read news from your favourite RSS-enabled websites in one application
* Juk has now an album cover management via Google Image Search
* KMail now stores passwords securely with KWallet
* SVG files can now be used as wallpapers
* KHTML plug-ins are now configurable, so the user can selectively disable ones that are not used. This does not include Netscape-style plug-ins. Netscape plug-in in CPU usage can be manually lowered, and plug-ins are more stable.
* more than 6,500 bugs have been fixed
* more than 1,700 wishes have been fullfilled
* more than 80,000 contributions with several million lines of code and documentation added or changed

Announcing KDE 3.4

> not to troll or not but since when did Saffari (KHTML) have good CSS2 support?

If I interpret this CVS commit comment correctly then it does have quite a good support (even if buggy in corner cases).

At least KHTML from KDE 3.4 betas has showed my moderately complex standards compliant (XHTML, CSS, DOM, ECMAScript) pages exactly as they look and behave in Gecko & Opera.

Has KDE developed a comprehensive HIG and/or UI guidelines for its DE?

First, the offer was to make a php script that allowed users to vote on them, and... well in her own words:

I don't doubt that the offer was made with the best intentions. However, why not use bugzilla's vote mechanism? Gnome doesn't use them, it seems, but KDE has Most wanted bugs. I don't know why you think bugzilla's voting system is broken, so I won't comment on that.

When I said the result are skewed I meant that the population is smaller, and different, from the Gnome user population at large. This is true for the bugzilla votes, and this would be true for a website poll. This might be why the Gnome people have disabled votes, though I don't know.

As for the parenthesized statement, this was not speculation from GP, nor was it speculation from Thom Holwerda nor Eugenia, but rather came out in thread itself.

It is, in any case, a common misconception that I take offense at. Certainly, any support requested by someone expressing that view would go to the very bottom of my todo list. Developers are not, as a rule, selfless bastards. But usually our priorities differs from someone else, and thus the moaning and bitching (like the parenthesized statement) ensues.

The Gnome people have made an excellent beginner's desktop. They should be applauded. Why not encourage rather than complain? Honey works better than vinegar, usually.

IIRC, this concept was encouraged by ERS in Cathedral... It would be nice to see other mainstream OSS projects such as GNOME actively embrace this model of community involvement.

KDE has always adopted this model. If there is something you don't like about KDE, log it at bugs.kde.org as a wishlist item, and vote it up.

Note that this is no guarantee that the wish will be taken care of right now, or if it will even be done at all (silly wishes are closed), but reasonable wishes remain open, and wishes that are voted up are more likely to be implemented faster.

Your statement reminds me of the patent commissioner in 1899 saying "Everything that can
be invented has been invented."

But my statement is totally different. I didn't say that no one can make any more good music, it's just that they don't.

You guys might be right: there could be some indie music out there that I'll like. I have looked around some, however, and just haven't found anything that interested me enough to bother buying it. Maybe I'll have to spend some more time looking when I get some free time.

It's not all crap, however; I still like the recent albums by Dream Theater and Iron Maiden (both RIAA-affiliated, unfortunately). But these bands have been around since the 80's and 70's, respectively.

One new way I've found of learning of different bands is to sign up for Audioscrobbler.
I use AmaroK, a media player for KDE, which has Audioscrobbler linkage built-in in the newest release. It sends statistics on everything you play to Audioscrobbler, which builds statistics based on that, and then matches you up with other people who have similar tastes in music. This way, you can look at what your "musical neighbors" listen to, and check out their favorite bands.

However, as for downloading music and listening before buying, I've cut that out lately because of the torrent (pardon the pun) of lawsuits from the RIAA for this activity. I used to do this more 5 years ago and bought new music this way, but not anymore.

Maybe I should spend more time with my notebook computer, using its wireless connection to download P2P material through other people's networks...

If you use their framework to develop opensource projects, you qualify for their OpenSource Edition License. However, if you want to keep the sources all to yourself you can, but it will cost.

This allows Trolltech to make money and stay in business while still supporting the FOSS community.

7zip? Unmature? It is perfectly usable. I finally deleted my licensed copy of Winzip because 7zip does its work better. 'nuff said.

One tool I've been using a lot of lately is valgrind. Valgrind is a debugging tool that runs an unmodified binary in a special environment to detect memory related problems.

It's great at detecting memory leaks and odd memory management related crashes. In particular, it's invaluable for threading related memory errors. It can be a bit overwhelming though, especially if you use a lot of libraries that are sloppy with their memory.

One limitation: it's pretty platform specific. Originally, it was pretty tightly coupled to the x86 architecture, though I think there's a PPC port in the works.

Valgrind is great for debugging memory problems (wild pointers, memory leaks). It's not at all like the older memory debugging tools; you just run "valgrind your-program" and it'll rewrite your executable to perform the appropriate checks, then run it. Right now it only supports x86 executables; they're working on PowerPC support.

There is no shared resource for KHTML/KJS's source code, instead Apple decided to develop KHTML/KJS further in house and releases them as WebCore/JavaScriptCore. There never were and still aren't enough developers working on KHTML/KJS to really keep up with all the changes done by Apple which aren't available as patches nor are documented.

Submitted back to the original projects? Sort of, but not in anything resembling a useful manner, at least in the case of KHTML. Even better, their WebCore 1.2 source release is based on KDE 3.0.2, and they suggest running a diff to figure out what was changed.

Honestly, they couldn't get much more unhelpful without actually breaking the LGPL.

Submitted back to the original projects? Sort of, but not in anything resembling a useful manner, at least in the case of KHTML. Even better, their WebCore 1.2 source release is based on KDE 3.0.2, and they suggest running a diff to figure out what was changed.

Honestly, they couldn't get much more unhelpful without actually breaking the LGPL.

Sure, but interestingly enough I can't think of a single example of new open-source software Apple have created and given back to the community. Compared with other companies their size they have been surprisingly stingey.

Secondly while they use FOSS software and advance it's development, in the case of some products (like KHTML, a http://kde.org/ innovation) they return it in an undocumented patch-b0rken state.

They really are taking more than they give.

Most of us have moved away from plain web-based stuff a while a go and moved into the wide-world of G U Is, movies, and graphical games.

Though I do enjoy being sarcastic on /.

i don't know about the ipod, though there is an iTunes for Linux in the works via windows emulation: http://news.com.com/Startup+to+make+iTunes+sing+on +Linux/2100-1041_3-5293915.html. most of what you talk about is not the concern of kernel developers but of the userland application developers. USB plug and play works well in linux if you have 'hotplug' on board. for the palm pilot, i have used this in the past http://pim.kde.org/components/kpilot.php and it works very well.

if you use an integrated desktop environment like KDE or Gnome you'll find that alot of your userland problems are sorted 'out of the box'. running such a system is not my preference, however i reccommend this to new users.

And I was wrong, the dozen mirrors I talked about were the local mirrors. Seems more like a hundred

Along the lines of bugs, KDE's bug tracking system just reached it 100000 *reported* bug (not open) On the kde news site ther is a story about it include tips on how you can help report bugs/problems that you find in KDE to help make it better.

-Benjamin Meyer

That is a bad idea, though your heart is in the right place. There are just too many of them.

It is trivial to keep hero of the month busy for years, just taking the major contributors to kde who aren't recognized outside of the kde developer comunity. Now toss in the GNOME developers, the x.org developers, various Linux developers, netBSD, freeBSD, battle for Wesnoth, nethack and you have filled a lifetime of months touching many deserving hackers, but missing the large majority of both hackers and worthy projects.

A project of the week isn't even though to list the major projects you should know about, and many of them have more than one developer who is worth listing.

Regarding the over all setup, take a look at the thin client linux setup at Riverdale High School in Oregon.

For distros I'd recommend debian or something debian based like skolelinux or ubuntu.

You have the classic battle between OpenOffice and Microsoft Office.
After just Linux and OpenOffice installed, it will be evident the advantages are much greater than using Microsoft products, namely because of the price. If these guys are donating thousands of computers to schools, reducing software price from $200-300 per unit to $0 is going to enable them to construct out quite a bit more labs.

There are quite a few Gnome applications which would help in everyday usability. Of course, Gnome or KDE would probably be your desktop of choice, especially if the organization is coming off of Microsoft Explorer; keep it familiar to effectively show advantages.

You didn't specify what type of educational environment the labs target, but for programming Anjuta is a great alternative to Microsoft Visual C++.

A few other mentionable applications would include Mozilla Firefox (over Microsoft Internet Explorer), and The Gimp (over Photoshop).

For networking with existing Windows labs, Samba is an effective alternative.

It doesn't show off the power, but remember the KDE has a set of "Edutainment" programs of varying quality.

I've personally used some of these for school, and they are quite good. For example, "Logo" is replaced with KTurtle, and there are a few maths programs (KPlot for graphs and Kig for geometry, among others). There are quite a few language tools too. There is an impressive chemistry program which lists the periodic table and information about each element, too.

So KDE includes a great base. More schools should use it (especially when combined with KOffice)

It doesn't show off the power, but remember the KDE has a set of "Edutainment" programs of varying quality.

I've personally used some of these for school, and they are quite good. For example, "Logo" is replaced with KTurtle, and there are a few maths programs (KPlot for graphs and Kig for geometry, among others). There are quite a few language tools too. There is an impressive chemistry program which lists the periodic table and information about each element, too.

So KDE includes a great base. More schools should use it (especially when combined with KOffice)

All warez originate from Kommunist China via a secret underground network. Don't be fooled by that copy of WindowsXP on the shelf, studies have shown that upto20% of all labelled warez DvDs and CDs contain hidden kIddIe pron, they are the only kiddies associated with the Warez network.

Yours,
Danie Glick--man. MPAA.

KDE has a protocol named fish:// that runs inside the Konquerer browser. It uses SH or PERL on the computer it connects to(which means that computer must has SSH, PERL over an SSH connection) and displays them like a local computer. I use it for quick backups from my Desktop to some extra storage on an mp3 server sitting in the corner.

Site info is here:
http://docs.kde.org/en/3.3/kdebase/kioslave/fish.h tml

For me, Gnome is plenty functional. I wouldn't mind a little more snazzy.

All you need is a little upgrade.

your question is widely answered at this link.

to summarize... yes: there are at least two alternatives: opengroupware + cyrus and suse's opengroupware (cyrus + openldap + comfire). for client side: kontact (korganizer) is desktop ready. it is difficult to enable (and has many flaws at my advice) for workgroup environment, but is a very good for everyday scheduling, overall if integrated with palm (via kpilot).

You mean object prevalence like in Prevayler? See also here for a general presentation (intro here: Object Prevalence in C++).

As for the applications you mention, they're all great but for one reason or another I do end up preferring some available on the GNU/Linux desktop.

Evolution has both an address book and mail. It also has a calendar and these days you see the Evolution calendar events even in the panel's calendar, which I think is great and a good example of the GNOME desktop integration. Evolution is truly a great mail client although it really has even more stuff than I need.

For chat I like Psi which is a great Jabber client available for whatever platform I choose. I may try iChat when it supports Jabber (next OS X I hear) and Psi doesn't offer that kind of integration but it still is the best IM client I've used and currently iChat isn't an option.

AmaroK kicks iTunes' ass in my not so humble opinion. It has many features not found in iTunes which I'm not so impressed with. Also, Ogg Vorbis really is an issue for me as I've got a substantial collection of self-ripped vorbis files. Each and every Linux player support them and so does for example WinAmp.

As for the rest, iPhoto is pretty nice and I can't name anything superior but I'm not that heartbroken from not having it. I can't talk much about iMovie but it seems a pretty good entry-level video editing app, certainly better than Windows movie maker. The stuff that's available for Linux tends to be more pro-oriented in that are I guess (same goes for Garageband). What's so good about iDVD? xine/mplayer/ogle/... do more and work well as DVD players.

Linux distributions vary a lot, if you select a good one, you won't be overwhelmed with choice initially but will be able to get to the options if you want to test the large amount available. Ubuntu, Fedora and SuSe are my recent favourites here. I don't think so much of the OS X desktop and feel your 1979 comment is a flamebait. Some things work better in GNU/Linux, others are still lagging behind it, but nothing's perfect.

It appears to be already solved

I'm not an expert at sourceforge, but it would seem rather pointless to register an account there if you're not involved in a project. Ok, there are expired accounts, and disinterested accounts and whatnot...

But 1 million sourceforge users. You'd have to assume a lot of inactive accounts to even approach the "tens of thousands" figure, let along "hundreds". You'd have to assume that 10,000 people registered sourceforge accounts, for every person who contributed code, to even get near.

Just taking the current project of the month (ClamAV if you're interested), they mention 14 developers. And there are 29 projects of the month, and 95,000 other projects in various stages of development, (1110 Mature, 12375 Production/Stable, 14777 Beta etc.) with at least one person per project on anything that's "release quality"

That's just utilities mainly. Applications tend to have their own domains. KDE lists 501 people. OpenOffice have 3000 posts per week on their mailing list. Gnome list 84 people per year who donate money to the project (and can we forget the 10,000 who paid to promote Mozilla?) Linux itself of course, listed 369 people in the credits file at one time. Did you ever see a 'commercial' project with so many people working on it?

Okay, maybe you could look at the people preparing all this for shipping, the Mandrake people, the Debian people (Debbie and Ian?), the Gentoo people. But you don't just count the "packaging and shipping" group when you ask how many people programmed Windows do you? Maybe the person who wrote this article is getting very confused between writing software and distributing it...

Release Schedule in the KDE Developer's corner link to the Feature Plan, which give you a good idea at what is a planned feature, and what's alreay working. Its a long list, but worth a skim.

http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde- 3.4-features.html

And it isn't even on fruitsalad, though it doesn't belong to linux either.