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• Gnome in Korea, too cool for words.
• KDE in Korea.
• Microsoft in Korea

The quesion is, can a single company do as much as an entire country can on it's own? I doubt it and so does Microsoft. Why else would they buy off their competition? They should have all confidence they will prevail without such tricks. The trend outlined above indicates they have no such confidence and can't really keep up.

The screenshots above speak for themselves, even if your browser does not support the characters a default install of Mepis does. The Microsoft programs are unmodified English language programs. Free software has Korean character support and translations that Koreans are giving themselves. It's difficult to see how M$ can maintain dominance without doing more than writing korean language how-to's.

Actually, that website is a very popular (in korea that is) personal homepage of a famous linux lover, Juksu. Sarang.net is the hosting company in which his homepage resides. If you care for a commercial korean linux distro go here (it's in korean). If you want to check out a great Korean linux community site check out the Korean Linux Documentation Project (KLDP).

Mod parent down, -1 cynicism.

http://www.software.or.kr/ will be taking requests for funding. Software.or.kr is the place that's sponsoring the KLDP CodeFests (all night FOSS hacking parties) in Korea.

http://wiki.kldp.org/wiki.php/CodeFest

Why are those sons of bitches in redmond so phenomenonaly successful then? Cos they are lazy fucks? I seriously doubt it.

They get the job done, good enough to please most people. Then they leverage that into the next market, and repeat the cycle.

Windows is bloatware cos it doesn't matter. Better to have the features now, and slowish, than in the never never land.

'Release early, Release often' is the mantra from that twat ESR's (*) 'cathedral and the bazaaar' thingy. Ha fucking ha ha. As if Redmond never did that ...

* By God, he is a dickhead. Check this for example on his insane 'predictions' for W2k.

"I thought "computer clubs" were in vogue until about ten or fifteen years ago."

How about trying a model railway club?

(ref: here)

I accept the notion of evil. I don't accept the notions of Evil or Good.

Malevolent? Cool. Malicious? Sure. Contrary? No problems. Helpful? Yay. Beneficent? Shagadelic. Kind? No worries, mate.

Good? No. Evil? No. Moral? No. Immoral? No. Virtuous? No. Sinful? No.

I don't know what you mean by strawman unless it has something to do with the one in Oz.

Have you tried MySql Navigator?

But there is one thing that Access did do, and that is it made (mildly) complecated database queries available to the unwashed non-programming masses. Ok, it wasn't Access that did it first, it was probably hypercard, (hey, remember this cool story about the guy who used hypercard to extract unpublished Dead Sea Scrolls from a consordance?) or even something earlier like the first ingres, but the fact that is that by using Access dumb people can do things that they couldn't otherwise.

It's true that a php/apache/postgres system is better, but it also makes those people dependent on us to set up apache, php, and postgres. It may also make them have to figure out how to structure their queries in php or some other text interface instead of clicking and grunting.

There is a definite need for a system that presents a click-and-drool interface to suck in large amounts of data and parse it (with a gui based fill-in-the-feilds manner of making the conditions or regexps) and then present the results in enticing graphs. It doesn't have to do any network stuff, it can simply be a single user manipulating a file. The type of users I'm talking about often use sneaker net or email attachements for all file transfers inspite of the existence of database servers and networked drives.

Every time I research this I'm left feeling dissatisfied, because it seems that someone could wire/kludge together a system that was a locally running apache (even in userspace, talking only to the local user that started it) running a pretty generic php interface talking to mySQL or postgres. The interface would have to allow you to save queries somehow, and do all the other things that Access people are used to. Even an idiot like me could probably wire together a buggy piece of shit in a week or so, so I would expect some admin at a low-budget shop such as a school or non-profit had already wired that together. I can't believe I'm the first on to think of this.

Since I last tried out various things, I've discovered MySQL Navigator. Has anyone had any experience giving this to Access-addicted users to see what they say ? The screenshots seem full of pointy-clicky stuff to keep them happy.

But there is one thing that Access did do, and that is it made (mildly) complecated database queries available to the unwashed non-programming masses. Ok, it wasn't Access that did it first, it was probably hypercard, (hey, remember this cool story about the guy who used hypercard to extract unpublished Dead Sea Scrolls from a consordance?) or even something earlier like the first ingres, but the fact that is that by using Access dumb people can do things that they couldn't otherwise.

It's true that a php/apache/postgres system is better, but it also makes those people dependent on us to set up apache, php, and postgres. It may also make them have to figure out how to structure their queries in php or some other text interface instead of clicking and grunting.

There is a definite need for a system that presents a click-and-drool interface to suck in large amounts of data and parse it (with a gui based fill-in-the-feilds manner of making the conditions or regexps) and then present the results in enticing graphs. It doesn't have to do any network stuff, it can simply be a single user manipulating a file. The type of users I'm talking about often use sneaker net or email attachements for all file transfers inspite of the existence of database servers and networked drives.

Every time I research this I'm left feeling dissatisfied, because it seems that someone could wire/kludge together a system that was a locally running apache (even in userspace, talking only to the local user that started it) running a pretty generic php interface talking to mySQL or postgres. The interface would have to allow you to save queries somehow, and do all the other things that Access people are used to. Even an idiot like me could probably wire together a buggy piece of shit in a week or so, so I would expect some admin at a low-budget shop such as a school or non-profit had already wired that together. I can't believe I'm the first on to think of this.

Since I last tried out various things, I've discovered MySQL Navigator. Has anyone had any experience giving this to Access-addicted users to see what they say ? The screenshots seem full of pointy-clicky stuff to keep them happy.

There's no HOWTO in Korean? Well, there's the Korean Linux Documentation Project, of course. Linux is quite successfull in Korea, actually.

'We don't know the reason and purpose that made him apply for the special right in the name of "Linux", and why he broke the silence after four years to claim his rights regarding others' using his patented name, "Linux": at first he attacked the publishers of publishing the Linux-related books.' a quote from this page. It seems to have a bit more information than the article, and was linked to from there.