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Re:God
God is an AI. You can't prove otherwise.
Argumentum ad Ignorantiam: Your argument is invalid.
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Re:The New American:
Magazine of the John Birch Society. Yep, I need to hear from them.
Ah, the argumentum ad hominem! Always strange to see a logical fallacy modded up...
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Re:out of their element
because of their credentials, regular everyday people put alot of creedence into what they say, even if it is way out of their discipline
Yeah, they even have a name for this phenomenon: Argumentum ad Verecundiam.
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Re:Is there some barrier to women in STEM?
It's not. An ad hominem works like this:
1. Chris Mattern says ad hominems are equal to insulting someone without refuting their assertion.
2. Chris Mattern is a dick face.
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Begging the question...
The point of mixing the fluids is that you cannot otherwise impart enough heat to flash boil the water.
That begs the question, can you not otherwise impart enough heat to flash boil the water? Why not a big metallic thermal load, made out of recycled popcans?
That's not begging the question.
That begs the question, how is the original statement not an example of the petitio principii fallacy?
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Re:Nothing but barometer, not barometer + X
a) and b) can give you results in "barometer-length" units. "The building is 234 barometers tall"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barometer_question
http://www.snopes.com/college/exam/barometer.asp
This is a nicely written account:
http://philosophy.lander.edu/intro/introbook2.1/x874.htmlhere are a bunch of ideas (most involve extras beyond the barometer)
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Re:Yes
that was "Ford Prefect" from HHGTTG.
Well, to be fair, if you knew what a Ford Prefect actually was, you'd never confuse it with "perfect." XD
As to the use (misuse?) of "stock phrases" like "beg the question", I assume that some people use those phrases idiomatically (i.e., no literal meaning intended) because they heard someone else they thought worthy of emulating doing so. Because of this, they don't consider if the literal phrase makes sense ("How do I do... what?").
In the specific (and hilariously controversial*) case of "beg the question", it's possible to torture a nearly-sensible literal meaning out of the phrase ("This begs the question" == "This begs someone to ask the question"), so the correct use derived from the original Latin phrase (and only sensible in light of Latin's vocabulary and grammar) will die out within a couple of generations, except in philosophical specialist material.
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Re:Took them long enoughArgumentum ad verecundiam If usability is his field of expertise (there are jobs that revolve around usability), his argument is not "ad verecundiam". An argument ad verecundiam is when someone prestigious/famous/important makes a statement about something which he is not qualified to judge.
e.g. 1. "The brilliant William Jenkins, the recent Nobel Prize winner in physics, states uncategorically that the flu virus will be controlled in essentially all of its forms by the year 2,050. The opinion of such a great man cannot be disregarded." (quote stolen from the page linked below) ==> ad verecundiam
e.g. 2. "The brilliant physicist William Jenkins said [insert physics statement here]. The opinion of such a great man cannot be disregarded." ==> not ad verecundiam, since it's the guy's area of expertise, and what he's famous for.
I can't assess whether 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF is actually a usability expert, but if he is, it's not an argument ad verecundiam and I would be prone to believe him rather than you. This being said, I take everything on /. with skepticism, therefore I agree his argument is frail unless he can support it with something else (nothing proving that he's a usability expert).
(so yeah, I'm not really arguing with you about his argument being weak, just about it being an argument ad verecundiam :P This being said, his argument doesn't sound unreasonable - I myself click the right button accidentally on my laptop way too often, especially when working on a plane, when arms are pressed to my sides, and I'd love to have the double-finger tap)
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Re:Consider the Source
I can't believe this got modded +5; moderators, shame on you. This post is the oldest logical fallacy in the book: Argumentum ad Hominem . Rather than attacking the source, you're supposed to attack the argument! And quite frankly, the tests look rock solid and statistically accurate. If you can't raise the level of the argument, just don't say anything at all. You make the rest of us look bad.
Your two digit ID be damned...
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Re:You sons of satan
Look up Argumentum ad Ignoranitam. Look up other logical fallacies too, not only because they are interesting, but because they will also help you solidify your beliefs.
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Re:Bah
For satire to work, it has to work well.
Blatantly nonsensical. "For XYZ to work, XYZ must work well" cannot be true, for it begs a definition of "work" that is loaded with a non-objective quality judgement.
and move straight on to the ad hominem attacks.
Mark down "ad hominem" as something else you'll need to get explained in your remedial education.
Here's some help: it means an attack targeted at the speaker, not what he says. I don't know anything about you, and didn't use any personal information in my post. It was solely based on what you wrote. That is not ad hominem.
To create ad hominem abuse, I would have to follow your killingmachines URL and look for offtopic, personal details to twist into insults. Dig up someplace where you made a mistake once, and, and create the implication that nothing else you say can be trusted either. That would be petty and uncomfortable, and I'm not into that.