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Made me download LibreOffice

If Microsoft doesn't want to cater to this audience, LibreOffice is more than happy to step up and provide a high-quality, powerful, free (and Free) office suite.

I've installed LibreOffice on dozens of machines, and many friends of mine now rely on it for opening a variety of files that MS-Office can't (or won't) open for them. It'd be great to hear from any OEMs who are considering installing it as a part of the base package on their machines.

Here's a link for an Office license for $0: http://www.libreoffice.org/

"The problem with solutions other the MS Office is that you will have issues with interacting with people outside your company."

This old lie again.

No you dont. WE have been on Open Office/Libre Office for over 3 years now here and have ZERO problems "interacting with people outside your company". WE can save as office format and read office format.

In fact we have less problems than one of our customers who is still on Office 2003.

You must have pretty lightweight document/spreadsheet needs when sharing documents externally. I use Libreoffice at home but regularly need to remote desktop into a Windows machine at work to use MS Office because Libreoffice doesn't always work well with Office documents and spreadsheets. Word Docs aren't always formatted correctly and if I want to print it at home, I need to fix it up, or if I make edits and send it to someone else, they'll sometimes need to fix up the doc. Likewise, many spreadsheets don't even work at all with Libreoffice (for example, I can't complete an expense report spreadsheet required by our Finance Department because none of the macros work). We send and receive documents from external agencies, and I just can't see using LibreOffice to save a document when I don't know what it's going to look like on the other end.

Here's some of the challenges LibreOffice has with MS Office docs:

http://help.libreoffice.org/Common/About_Converting_Microsoft_Office_Documents

If your entire office is on LibreOffice, I can see it working well within the office, but once you start sharing documents with external partners, I'm really surprised you've had zero problems.

I am having problems running installed and portable LibreOffice after v3.3. I posted http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/msg19652.html in the public mailing list and added a bug report: ttps://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=49499 .... Maybe someone else can help me? For now, I will have to use the old versions like v3.3.x.

Ah dammit, i meant to say LGPL

http://www.libreoffice.org/download/license/

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BMO

From http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/system-requirements/:

For certain features of the software - but not most - Java is required. Java is notably required for Base.

Also, they're reducing Java dependency, but it obviously takes time until LibreOffice is fully c++.
http://mrpogson.com/2010/11/10/reducing-java-dependency/

Here you go. Not sure how in-depth it goes from outside the LO environment though... I know that even from earlier OOo builds there was a lot of programmatic ability in there, though very Java centered in the implementation.

It is a major PITA to input equations with a menu system.

I agree...in fact, I enter my equations in LibreOffice via the intuitive syntax.

According to the System Requirements documentation, LibreOffice will run without Java, but still has some features that make use of it.

It seems LibreOffice 3.5 can now import Visio files. See here: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/3-5-new-features-and-fixes/

I've been using OpenOffice, or it's fork/successor LibreOffice for years. (Lots of interesting stories about the LibreOffice/OpenOffice split. Note: the comparison article mentioned is waaay out of date)

I give the nod currently to LibreOffice v3.5, which was just released, but we'll see what Apache does with OpenOffice ('Incubating' at v3.3).

https://www.libreoffice.org/download/3-5-new-features-and-fixes/

http://www.libreoffice.org/download/3-5-new-features-and-fixes/

"I can't comment on any specific conversation you had with any volunteer", drewjensen-libo

Check the parent posts, it wasn't me, but some AC poster who refers to a 'bug report` (Bug 41049) posted by user jkonecny over on libreoffice.org.
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ref: link

Wan to to see probems with LibreOffice's MS Office conversions? Head here for a more recent 'complaint' by one user.

Want to see to what extent close source shills will work to defeat open source implementations?

I have an example from more than half a decade ago; still relevant today as those folks are still living with the repercussions of that decision.

Apple products are somewhat ok if you don't test the boundaries or use them too creatively. Otherwise all bets are off.

I haven't found anything I could do in Windows or in Ubuntu I can't do on a Mac. Hell I can install both Windows and Ubuntu, or other Linux distros, on my Mac. I've been doing prep work planning to install Lucid Lynx (Ubuntu 10.04) on my internal HDD and Oneiric Ocelot (11.10) on an external drive. Tomorrow I plan to actually do the installations.

Now tell me what you can do with MS Windows and or Linux you can't do with a Mac. That is what task not what specific application. For an office suite I was using NeoOffice but now I use LibreOffice. For those who need it MS has MS Office for Macs. For development I have can use Xcode, Eclipse and Bluefish. Databases? I have choices there too. Graphic arts and photo editing? Many firms only use Macs for those. I have Photoshop Elements 10 installed on my Mac but I'm hoping to upgrade to Photoshop CS5.

Falcon

Let it die.
http://www.libreoffice.org/
Is fantastic.

Just imagine, soon we can run a webserver on Windows, and even use PHP! Soon we can even have an open source database on windows. Not to mention an open source office suite! All thanks to the windows 8 store! /sarcasm.

Seriously, why on earth is this news? Windows is not incompatible with open source, you know... Just download and install. Or will MS try to lock Win8 down so much that we seriously expect to get apps from the app store???
In which case: Tnxbutnotnx.

I tested 3.4.4 and 3.3.4 (Latest on website now) and I couldn't even find auto-update functionality. Though I can see update functionality mentioned in the documentation:
http://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Online_Update

So either they've pulled the functionality, or I'm looking in the wrong place.

Clever trolling, but no.

How is this trolling, exactly? Is it the old "disagree with fanbois, must be troll"? It's my honest opinion, based on evidence of what an end-user actually sees.

To quote the FAQ "For certain features of the software - but not most - Java is required. Java is notably required for Base." http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/system-requirements/

Does it really matter just what pulls it in, as long as the end user tries to install Calc and java gets pulled in? That is, from the end user's perspective, a dependency on java. No ifs and buts about it.

Playing the "blame the distro" game isn't helpful either. If the app devs make it too difficult for the world's biggest OSS contributor to provide OO.o without java, the blame should not be placed with the distro. Nor the end user.

First of all, drop openoffice and switch to libreoffice. Then go and read this http://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Using_Microsoft_Office_and#Macros_in_Microsoft_Office_and_LibreOffice

The size depends on what you (and/or) your package manager choose to install. To quote the FAQ "For certain features of the software - but not most - Java is required. Java is notably required for Base." http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/system-requirements/

Luckily, there is a patch and you can download it here. (It's not really a library, btw.)

And it's not really a patch, and it doesn't run on Metro...

Luckily, there is a patch and you can download it here. (It's not really a library, btw.)

http://www.libreoffice.org/features/calc/
http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/
http://maxima.sourceforge.net/
http://www.scilab.org/
http://www.scicoslab.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_programming_language

Fuck desktop calculators. Fuck nostalgia from 70s engineers and programmers who think RPN is the shite because it works like a computer stack. Repeating anything if you get even the slightest thing wrong, or heck, even checking it is a time consuming nightmare on any desktop calculator. Spreadsheets and programmable math environments have FAR superceded dinky desktop calculators.

Vote this article down - it's misleading flamebait in the extreme. In particular, it fails to mention that the software was designed to facilitate anonymous filesharing, which would most certainly be used for copyright infringement and illegal purposes.

Yeah, anonymous file sharing has no legitimate purposes whatsoever.

I suspect that many of the large LFOSS/GPL... foundations vet all their source code much better than the proprietary-pirates of pseudo-capitalist US, EU, RU, CN... economies.

Ask your legal staff if http://www.libreoffice.org/ and other LFOSS/GPL... products are less problematic legally. I am not a lawyer, but I suspect (if the lawyers are technology aware) the answer is YES!

The Fukushima-Daiichi Incident, Dr. Matthias Braun, AREVA, March 29, 2011 (3.7 MB Powerpoint show) can be viewed with free LibreOffice

Accessibility is a top priority for GNOME, KDE, Mozilla, OpenOffice and LibreOffice and many other major projects. Smaller projects often lack the resources to properly implement full accessibility. But then, so does the vast majority of smaller proprietary software.

For me it's the ribbon interface that hides everything. At least with a menu I could just browse and read from the text what the option is. Now I often have to guess what that icon does and I'm not going to remember all those from the large amount of applications I have to support.

Sorry I feel no sympathy for people who complain about the MS Office UI when theres a perfectly good menu-driven one available completely for free:-

http://www.libreoffice.org/download/

Bad press means, they kick the ass of competitors willing to pay persons to smear them. In the beginning they had no real competitors.
Just look at the Smartphone. For Google that is just a trick. For Nokia it was vital.

If they want an open confrontation with Microsoft they can, just for fun. Put 30 Mio annually on Wine development and Windows is obsolete within 5 years. Or 50 Mio annually on Libreoffice and the Microsoft Office cash cow would get slaughtered.

I use calc only, and I found that LO already fixed some small annoying shit, like erasing cell content instead of bringing up a wizard when I press Delete. Small things like that in UI, and numerous improvements under the hood make LO a clear winner in my eyes already.

I'd be fine with them killing off OO.org, I think most people are migrating over to LibreOffice, anyways.

Yup!

Ok, Nokia, war is on. How to rescue their portfolio? I mean Qt, Webkit and so forth. Same procedure as LibreOffice?

I'd be fine with them killing off OO.org, I think most people are migrating over to LibreOffice, anyways.

So, what are the differences between OO.o and LibreOffice?

I've read the new features page. Are there any OpenOffice.org features or bug fixes that won't be included in LibreOffice? Does Oracle still have anything useful to offer or is OO.o effectively obsolete?

Article links to some blog with copy/pasted content. Here are the right links:
- Official announcement
- Download

(Posting anonymously to avoid karma whoring allegations)

I wrote more than 200,000 words, and it's working for me, much more reliable than MS Office was, with less editing bugs, and smaller files too, so I was able to save every version of my books.
It's cross platform too.

I will be switching to Libreoffice soon.
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/