Domain: linuxcad.com
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Re:Windows - Necessary Evil?
hrmmmm again there are linux replacements for Autocad. Not sure about the controlling software. Thats a specialized case though that many businesses in America don't need to worry about.
http://www.linuxcad.com/
http://www.ribbonsoft.com/
http://www.adina.com/
http://www.lx-office.com/LX/products/architektur/i ndex.html/
So far the only responses to my question seem to be making the mistake that industry standard software means irreplaceable software. That's not what I asked though. Still waiting for someone to name a windows business app that doesn't have a working linux replacement. -
Re:The biggest problem of Linux desktop adaption
- Photoshop: The GIMP - how many times does this need to be said, the interface is slightly different but the gimp has most of the features of photoshop plus a few of its own.
Why don't I do the rest of the main Adobe stuff while I'm at it: - Games: Cedega - but maybe you'd be better off using a console (not as in bash you blockhead) as they're cheap and while piracy for them is a bit harder its doable if you're commited.
- Autocad: a quick search reveals two commercial solutions LinuxCAD and VariCAD and a guide to getting AutoDesk's Autocad running under wine
- Dreamweaver: NVU, Amaya, hell even fckEditor or, if you're hardcore then vi(e)macs.
- Photoshop: The GIMP - how many times does this need to be said, the interface is slightly different but the gimp has most of the features of photoshop plus a few of its own.
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Re:AutoCAD
LinuxCAD looks pretty bad, both from a GUI point of view and in terms of licensing. It's $199 just to _try_ it; the demo link says:
http://www.linuxcad.com/demo_WE_DO_NOT_OFFER_DEMO_ THIS_WEB_SITE_PROVIDES_SUFFIUCIENT_DEMO.html [linuxcad.com]
Please excuse me for not putting all my faith in that.
If by "sufficient demo" they mean "gives you enough of a headache to know that our application stinks so don't buy it" then they might be right.
If they do ALL of the following:
- put online videos of the application in use (like Scalix did)
- Clean up their 1994-style web page
- use consistent colors on the web site (the red/white/blue just doesn't work)
- organize the web site
- offer a messageboard for some level of interactivity, allowing for open discussions of the product's features
- more screenshots of specific features
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Re:AutoCAD
" From the perspective of a home user / small business those may be options..."
As a home/academic user, I've looked....hadn't seen all of these before. But none of them are free/open source, if that matters to you. (It does to me, but I'm a grad student...I don't have $500 to throw at something that may or may not work. From what I've seen, commercial software and F/OSS have about the same chance of working - low. Both fields push software out the door before it's ready. But at least with F/OSS I don't waste money buying junk.)
LinuxCAD looks pretty bad, both from a GUI point of view and in terms of licensing. It's $199 just to _try_ it; the demo link says:
http://www.linuxcad.com/demo_WE_DO_NOT_OFFER_DEMO_ THIS_WEB_SITE_PROVIDES_SUFFIUCIENT_DEMO.html
Please excuse me for not putting all my faith in that.
Arcad's page seems to be German-only, though the program may not be. Again, commercial software - at least maybe you can get a free demo. It seems to be geared heavily towards architecture; I'm not sure how useful it is for drafting a design to send to the machine shop. And no autocad-style command line - which I'm moderately convinced I need in order to get done in any reasonable amount of time.
VariCAD is also not free software, though they have a demo. Again, it looks architecture-heavy. And no command line.
Ditto for Cycas.
Synergy looks like it may be more oriented towards mechanical drawings. However, there's no autocad-style command line in the screenshots. -
Linux CAD
AutoCAD used to be offered as a UNIX program. Like the "Photoshop for UNIX" that Adobe offered, it was distributed as a binary for Sun Solaris, I believe. A quick Google search didn't turn up any definitive information on whether or not it's still being offered (I'm thinking no) but there's one university that still has it available for students to use, and you can read the instructions for using it here. Based on the list of packages installed on their UNIX systems, I'm going to guess they're older SparcStations.
This doesn't do us modern Linux users much good, since it means the software was probably distributed as SPARC binaries only. So unless you know of a good way to emulate/virtualize a SPARC (which shouldn't be impossible, given that it's an allegedly open architecture) system from within x86 Linux, I'd say we're SOL there.
There are some people in South Africa who have AutoCAD running (apparently) to their satisfaction under Debian WINE, according to this page. They mention a "German GNU/Linux clone of AutoCAD which is quite impressive and very cheap" in the article, but sadly don't give a name.
LinuxCAD, which rather hilariously describes itself as "the Best application program for Linux. Period." claims to be an AutoCAD replacement, but just from first glance the site seems questionably maintained (as in, '1995 called, they want their web page back'). The company behind it has also been alleged to be behind some Usenet spam. On that last site there are several "alternatives to LinuxCAD" listed, including VariCAD, which seems like a pretty polished (it ought to be, for $500) product from a company in the Czech Republic.
Anyway, I thought I'd throw those options out there. If anyone has any experience with any of them I'd be interested to hear them. -
Re:Right tool for the right job
I use Gimp to do what most people do with Photoshop: General Image Manipulations.
I am not a Photographer or a full-time Graphics Designer (although I love hand-drawing and designing Logos)
What I don't like about Photoshop is not the software itself but the OS : modal windows.
Gimp (and most apps in Linux) - you have that freedom of floating dialog boxes instead of Modal-windows; so you can get under it.
The general averseness with Gimp is twofold:
1. People are way too accustomed to Photoshop and unlearning stuff is short of painful.
2. Gimp on Windows/Cygwin sucks sucks badly. And sadly that is Windows-users gain their first impressions of the software.
In Gimp if you are stuck - right click (navigate the menu from thereon to do almost anything).
Gimp is definitely better what it used to be (I abhored the 1.x versions), and not that sub-standard in comparison to Photoshop.
I don't deny however that Photoshop itself is an extremely professional state-of-the-art software and that in many fronts it still beats Gimp (as I keep hearing: CMYK / Pantone profiles).
But there is much more to Gimp than people are vaguely aware.
For me its refreshing and exciting the whole evolutionary (if not revolutionary) process. Sure many Linux-ported applications are still sub-par in contrast to Windows-only:
Photogenics, MainActor, QCad / LinuxCad
Some got the timing wrong and had to pull-out as Linux wasn't popular then: NetObjects Fusion for Linux and MusicMatch Jukebox.
Others were bullied by the Microsoft lobby: most notably games.
While others still support a Linux version to this date: Maya Complete and Mathematica (way too expensive I rather settle for the free Blender, Octave and Pov-Ray)
Which leads us to the Open Source:
The were have a vast library of resources just to cater for the Designer.
But sadly we got tired and old in learning new stuff.
I cannot comment on the world of Mac. Which should be more user-oriented than developer-oriented; a means to an end as you stated.
While Microsoft itself - is a damn pain in the arse. People are stucked with it for lock-in reasons including proprietory formats - that is how they bred so many software houses writing apps just for it.
Rebooting, desinfecting - recovering corrupted documents is a hassle any business and I could do without. And so .. I resist.
Use Mac / Use Linux / but using Microsoft = very unwise. -
Re:Why steal software?There is no decent: CAD...on Linux
Yes there is. It's called LinuxCAD
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Re:Open Source is not always good.
There aren't even programs such as AutoCad, Rational Rose or stuff like this.
You mean like Rational Rose Developer for Unix?
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You *could* try Linux CAD...
Linux CAD
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Re:Easy
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Re:Open Source for the rest of us...
The solution to your quandry would be to fund the development of your project and then release the software under an open source license. However, there are already a few CAD packages that may meet your needs, though the best ones are not open source, just inexpensive.
FREEdraft Free GPL
LinuxCAD $99
ARCAD $900 ($80 Student)
OCTree Free for non-commercial use.
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Re:That's a kiddie argument;
hmm, this one may be really obvious, but what about LinuxCAD? www.linuxcad.com
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Re:Nice, but...
how about http://www.linuxcad.com/ ? Has anyone tried it?
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hmm
Whoa. Who'd guess, looking at their professional looking home page?
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Re:On The Subject Of AutoCAD Compatibility
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A Complete AutoCAD Replacement ExistsThis is funny. I work as a programmer at a large architecture/engineering/construction firm in Minneapolis. We use Windows at work, but a couple of us have been experimenting with Linux at home. Just yesterday someone pointed me to http://www.linuxcad.com, a complete replacement for AutoCAD with support for just about everything. It costs $99 a license, which is phenomenal pricing compared with AutoDesk. Free software people may buck at the price, but at a company like mine, this would be *very* reasonable. They also have a very tempting corporate licensing program going on.
I haven't actually tried the software, but if the package actually meets all the claims, it is definitely worth checking out. One thing I'm not sure of is whether it supports AutoCAD's LISP extensibility features. Our company has done a lot of customization for AutoCAD using LISP, and I don't think I could realistically recommend it to our folks if it meant we had to rewrite all our menus and LISP routines.
JD