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Max Payne is being done by MacSoft (news reference here).
Civ III is available here.
And Return to Castle Wolfenstein is being done by Asypr.
Games aren't exactly targetted towards Macs, but that doesn't mean the popular ones aren't available.
Also, mice with more than one button are supported, assuming you bother to use one.

It's plum ironic that you read all about Linux, BSD, Solaris, hacking, personal freedoms, and all other sorts of stuff on Slashdot, and yet no one ever seems to be able to get it right, or care to try very hard, when it comes to the Mac OS or Mac OS X. Even the initial post didn't seem to me to have looked very hard to see if there IS a Mac OS X version of Office.

I wrote the MacNN article which sparked this thread last year, and saw a complete and total lack of understanding in most of the following posts. The tone of the followups expressed a lack of understanding on Apple's part for using BSD and not Linux - that Apple is not savvy enough to be in business, etc. This thread has reinforced that most dotters don't really understand what Mac OS X IS.

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Mac OS X is NOT Unix. Mac OS X is NOT *NIX, or Linux. The architecture of Mac OS X is focused on leveraging the Mach kernel to provide services, do VM, handle threads, and more. Then, the tools on top of that are crafted to the Mach kernel, such as all applications being a Mach thread, and networking through BSD sockets. There is no compatibility layer which speaks Mach, there is only Mach.

Perhaps the work to change this would not revolutionize the field of Computer Science, but there is no true reason for Apple to switch, and having application *NIX personalities is a feature almost no "Mac" user would ever care about.

Quartz is not X11. X11 is a protocol, Quartz is an API. The better analogy would be Quartz and KDE - both of which feed a display engine, and provide widgets and graphical tools. Without getting into a side by side comparison, which you choose is going to be a matter of choice as to which you like better.

But, Microsoft worked hard to leverage the Quartz API for many of the features in Office - graph generation being the primary target, so a good amount of work would have to be done to reengineer major parts of the display engine just to get around these sections.

Consider further, if you will, how hard it has proven to be for most programming firms to take a Win32 application to the Mac using the Mac Toolbox (aka Classic) or even Carbon, much less fine-tuning it's graphics for the platform. The more impressive quick translation applications for Mac OS X have been written in Cocoa, the framework that has evolved from the NextSTEP/OPENSTEP frameworks/APIs, and Cocoa isn't even close to being link Carbon.

With the Mac Office codebase written in Carbon/Classic, it would take quite a while for any porting to take place, and in such time, I am confidant a newer version of Office would have already been released...

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I'm not saying Slashdot should become, overnight, more Mac OS X conscious, but really...no one would spare the whip on someone who said Linux and Windows were the same since they are both operating systems...

Which lawsuit do you mean? The only lawsuit I can find on the 'net is the connectix VGS one, which sony lost horribly, forcing them to buy them out. Mod chips, reverse engineering, emulation are All Perfectly legal, and we have legal precedence for this. As long as you aren't 'damaging' the company. It is also impossible to 'prove' that a modchip harms a company, since you had to buy the hardware in the first place to mod it. There are also Substantial Non-Infringing uses for a mod-chip. Such as the playback of other region DVDs or the use of Backup Discs. Just as the VCR has the ability to copy movies. The substantial non-infringing uses for a VCR, time shifting Television for one, makes it legal.

If sony could win a lawsuit agains modchip makers they would sue them until they were blue in the face. But they can't win. That is why the same modchip people from 3-4 years ago are still selling modchips today. Sony and panasonic can't touch them.

Essentially, I spent the last ten years of my life shackled to Microsoft products with the all-too-infrequent practical use of Linux. As Microsoft's business practices continue to get ever more predatory, and the Microsoft operating systems become increasingly marketing tools rather than productivity tools, I decided that it was about time to try something new.

I found an inexpensive, new iBook, and bought it. An "icebook" with a 500Mhz G3 processor, I've been quite happy with it so far. The construction of the iBook is quite decent, with a few common blemishes in the casing and a few mechanical defects reported. However, the real shining star of Apple's lineup has got to be OS X. This BSD alteration (Or enhancement, or bastardization, or annexation, call it what you will.) is positioned in the perfect place to bring intelligence back into the use of personal computers. Functionally, OS X is a wonderfully complex yet artistically presented program interface which does an admirable job of concealing the true nature of things from the average Macintosh transitional user, while providing an extremely high amount of flexibility for the more technically oriented. With the Macintosh userbase, there's actually a very devoted core that could use the help and assitance of open source efforts despite the problems with Apple in regards to certain areas of the system. (The interface, primarily)

Projects suck as Fink, an excellent tool for porting unix applications to the OS X environment are a great start, but what will really help Apple prove a real challenge to Microsoft is the conscious effort by Open Source developers to port applications to Apple hardware so seamlessly, that the average user won't even have to know that The Gimp was actually a unix application.

This is where Apple has succeeded as a core business, making computing simpler for the artistically, rather than the technically minded. The best thing Open Source can do is aid the Apple userbase in proving that the Mac is a viable alternative. Yes, Linux and BSD themselves as well as all the other systems out there, deserve to continue to be the primary focus of most efforts. But it just may be that the most effective way to open up the operating systems market will be to back the entrenched underdog.

While the whole situation sucks, at least steps are being taken in the right direction. Anyone have confirmation of the account? How about accounts of other companies taking similar steps. I am quite curious.

It's nice that they're doing the right thing.

perhaps some lunitic will come up with a nice OS 9.2.1 theme and theme manager to run it over aqua for you

If you look over on MacNN someone has one fairly far along. I think the only big chunk o' work they have left is the scroll bars. I think it was a Friday headline.

What kind of a nerd doesn't even know HTML? Not only does a real link to the iTunes 2 trouble thread not get mangled by Slashcode, but readers can actually use it....

Actually, your URL has a space too many. Here's one that works:

Link, or if you're scared I'm trying to show you porn:
http://newforums.macnn.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cg i? ubb=get_topic&f=46&t=000865

Quick tidbits:

This product has had the mac world biting their nails for the past week or so.
Two of the most popular mac news sources, MacSlash and MacOS Rumors, are currently down, and MacNN has been slowed to a crawl.
The official announcement from apple is expected to happen at 10:00AM PST.

There were earlier pictures that have been removed now, but were easier to spot as fakes. Here is some discussion on MacNN about the "iWalk". Also note that "iWalk" is not a registered trademark of Apple.

What is an Apple trademark, though, is the "iPod" (NOTE: if you can't get the page to display, just start a new search for "iPod"). From the description, though, it does sound like a PDA...

Nice of Slashdot to finally put a story of this up... The original invitations went out last Friday!

I know this is a little offtopic, but other big news are: Today, Apple will bring out a new device that is not a Mac and that it calls "ground-braking". Every Mac Newssite is talking about it: MacOSRumors, Go2Mac, MacEdition, MacNN.

I would be very interested what Slashdot readers' guesses would be what it is.

I can attest that this is not necessary, even when using Photoshop under classic along with 10 other native apps running. OS X.1 does very little HD hitting for me on my laptop with 256MB, once I turned on the window buffer compression feature. (It makes the OS use far less memory, and speeds up window moving and resizing to boot. It will be turned on by default in the next release of OS X, Apple just had it off in this build because they thought it was the cause of a particular kernel panic.)

And with 384MB in my desktop, life is just dandy. Sure, more RAM is always better, and nowadays it's so cheap there's little reason not to get half a gig or so, but OS X does not require it.

I have a Lombard series Powerbook that I can get about 5 hours of on a single battery charge. From what I have read and heard about (look on forums.macnn.com for more info) the Wallstreet, Lombard, Pismo, and Titanium series Powerbooks have excellent battery life as well as performance under the battery. A good deal of the time I'm running my Powerbook at home or hotel room (like right now) on line power but lots of times have to go to the battery. You can easily set up a low power profile in the location manager in MacOS (8.5-10.1) so you can switch pretty quickly and easily to low battery mode to get every last bit of power out of your battery. With the screen brightness down as low as it can get and the hard drive set up to sleep after five minutes of inactivity I have gotten five hours usage (running Office2001). With the screen set low I can get nearly 3 hours of playing games like Star Wars racer and Diablo2. Unfortunately I don't have and iBook but they apparently have the same battery performance. One cool aspect of the Wallstreet, Lombard, and Pismo series Powerbooks is you can use a second battery which literally doubles your power lifetime. With plenty of RAM Mac laptops will go for a very long time. You can pick up 400 and 500 MHz Pismo Powerbooks on MacResQ and Powermac for a little over a thousand dollars. IIRC Yellow Dog runs just fine on the G3 based Powerbooks if you're interested in running it. OSX can run X apps through XDarwin and about half of the FreeBSD Ports collection pretty well if you want to go that route too. Besides the battery life of the Mac laptops you get the low weight only rivaled by the smallest PC laptops (Sony and Fujitsus as well as a couple others), though with the caveat that the Mac laptops have an internal drive bay where some smaller PC laptops have external ones which means they have one more thing to lug in your bag. Hopefully that helps. Luckily the hype is to be believed when it comes to Apple's power claims on their portables.

But who says Apple never ripped off MS?
The custom toolbar in IE 5 for Mac was taken and tweaked to be used in the custom finder for OS X!

I think little things like this go both ways.

From MacNN.com:

Apple has apparently worked things out with Eric Yang, whom we earlier today reported was prevented from developing an Aqua front-end for Mozilla and Netscape: "What Apple objected to was not Aquafying Mozilla, but rather the way I was doing it via emulation, thus not giving Mozilla users a pure Aqua experience. Apple is willing to provide information for creating real Aqua experience for Mozilla. Right now, my efforts are focused on an Aqua interface for Tenon's iTools, so work on Mozilla for the moment is in abeyance."

But who says Apple never ripped off MS?
The custom toolbar in IE 5 for Mac was taken and tweaked to be used in the custom finder for OS X!

I think little things like this go both ways.

macslash has some blurbs with more details too, including info about the installer.

The important point raised here is that the Java-based chat client (DigiChat) keeps no logs of the communication which goes through it, and in a forum as underused as Appinsider (have you seen their 'latest' update?) at times you could have an almost private, unmonitored communications facility simply through the underuse of the this part of the web.?

Unlikely as this may be, I guess the point is that terrorists could virtually teleconference without even using a technology which needs to be encrypted and most probably will not be being monitored by the government and federal agencies.

...why is there only this one guy saying 10.1 will be payware? MacCentral doesn't have a story, nor MacNN, nor MacSlash.

Heck, this claim isn't even on MacOSRumors, and Ryan is a total weasel known to post ANY random crap that comes his way.

Maybe it's true, maybe not. But one guy on MacObserver isn't convincing.

Think: the darwin being distributed is the same darwin running underneath the user parts of os x, and darwin does *all* the talking to the hardware. And from what i've heard, darwin/os x (because of mach, and because of some other design decisions) is designed to be as easy as possible to port. So while there's no way you could get out-of-the-box mac os working with these machines, you could just rewrite darwin to support them, slap that under os x, and as far as my understanding of the APSL is there is nothing apple can do to stop you.

Some people seem to have done something like this to get os x to run on unsupported, old apple machines.

OK, so maybe darwin *doesn't* have much use as its own operating system compared to BSD. That doesn't mean it's not damn useful.

Apple is reporting a $19.95 upgrade price for OSX.
MacNN is reporting a free upgrade.

Aqua + X Windows = heaven

there's a couple of screenshots in there, one with the gimp running in an X window alongside Aqua apps running in Aqua windows. apparently, someone has got X running rootless as well...

The launch of Mac OS X is turning Apple into the largest distributor of Unix, and more specifically BSD Unix. Now anyone with a desire to run Unix can purchase it for about the same cost as a Microsoft operating system. For the regular user, it looks and acts just like a MacOS user would expect.

No it doesn't. Go to MacNN and see how many Mac users find it quite different. Not all of them dislike it. Many like the changes. Many do not. Look at the threads on making the Finder more "Mac like", or even for running the old OS9 Finder. Look at Apple's own movies of how different OSX is. Or head back to MacNN and watch them bitch about how much worse the Dock is then the application bar.

Now I like OSX, but I'm not a Mac user. I'm a Unix geek. I bought a Mac to run OSX, and I can tell you it feels totally different, to the point that OS9 apps that run under Classic "emulation" are jarring.

End result: Lots of happy OS X users (who paid upto $129 a pop to buy the software), without any involvement from Apple! Talk about a win-win...

Apple also recently announced a firmware "upgrade" that is causing a lot of Mac computers to not recognize some 3rd party RAM modules that worked perfectly and without fail prior to the firmware upgrade.

Apple claims that it had to impose tighter RAM specifications. My take is that if they were aware that they needed to do that, then they should have informed customers a long time ago. The company has so far refused to offer any further details... like actually explaining WHY the RAM doesn't work now, whereas before it worked fine.

Articles are at MacCentral and MacNN.

Well I have been running OS X on my iBook (firewire) since March 27th and personally I'm quite impressed. Just to give some background:

iBook (firewire) G3 366 320mb of Ram (okay so that is a little more than average) no DVD or CDR/W

I upgraded OS X to build 4L5 (10.0.1) ( http://osx.macnn.com/news.php?id=4812 ) with the "unreleased" update that is floating around. Now for me . . . OS X is light and snappy . . I hear quite random things when I read through all the boards and newsgroups though.

Classic apps are not as fast . . but are certaintly usable. SO far I have played with Photoshop 6, Dreamweaver UltraDev 4, and Freehand 9 in classic emulation mode.

Also . . I should probably point out that I have used linux before . . I also have a full time BeOS (please don't go bankrupt!!) box at home too . . that said I use the command line and unix functions everyday . .

The default shell is TCSH . . which I found odd . . but whatever . . I think it comes with ZSH and CSH installed too. This site ( http://www.savagetranscendental.com/data/OSX/bash- osx.html ) has a precompiled Bash install for you . . which is quite nice. And for you Python freaks a precompile version is here too ( http://tony.lownds.com/macosx/ ).

I have installed the hack called Docking Maneuvers ( http://homepage.mac.com/isleep/ ), which lets you move the "dock" to the right, left, and top . . instead of just the default bottom.

I've had to go through and make some "compability" fixes . . creating symlinks for things like cc to gcc . . or /Users to /Home . . but those are just little geeky pleasures I find that make it more user friendly . . I'm sure my mom as a mac user would care less.

Speaking of which, the OS install in about 10 minutes, I rebooted . . configured the PPPoE to work with my Verizon DSL and walla I was on the internet . . so for my mom . . that being done in like 12 minutes is purty nice.

Hmm . . I'm quite enjoying it . . I haven't expierence the number of problems with IE 5.1 beta that most people have . .in fact I really have expierenced many problems at all . . it hasn't crashed once. I was sad to find out that Fortune wasn't available . . "sniffle" . . but I just grabbed the source from somewhere and compiled it. wheeee.

Sony once dropped one of its suits (which was already truncated to only 2 of the 9 original charges), only to bring a new one the next day. Of course, they only brought that suit after an appeals court decided to reverse the first ruling and declare VGS "fair use". Now they've lost in the last piece of litigation against Connectix. Is it finally over?! Maybe they'll just file yet another suit with a slight difference to continue to harass Connectix. And what about that other company Sony sued? How does this affect them?

A key part of DoubleClick's patent is not present in the porn mogul's business plan: DoubleClick's use of cookies to identify a user across all of DoubleClick's affiliate web sites. The use of cookies allows DoubleClick to ensure that adds are not repeated, and helps them target their adds more effectively. It is much more interesting to advertisers to know that a person has visited www.macnn.com, www.news.com www.macintoch.com, and www.slashdot.com, then to simply know that the user is viewing an add from www.slashdot.com.

While some might say DoubleClick's use of cookies is the most insidious part of their patent, I believe it is a significant enough improvement over the porn king's business plan to make it's patent still stand up. At any rate is is far to soon to proclaim that DoubleClick's patent is "busted".

DVD playback is important to me too. My computer is my only DVD player, and most of what I watch is on DVDs. However, I can handle the slight inconvenience of dual booting untill Apple has a player ready. Hell, for all we know they may actually have one ready and sitting on our iDisks by March 24 or very soon thereafter. Just because it probably won't make the shipping CD doesn't mean that it doesn't exist at all.

And, btw, for the rest of the Slashdot FUD-mongers, it is only DVD playback that doesn't work. You can still use the drive. Hell, you can even read the file system of a DVD video. If you are willing to break the law (as crappy of a law it is, Apple won't break it), you can probably hack a way to watch DVDs without too much trouble. Apple just has to make sure they do it to the letter of the law.

As for the other concerns of the article, I cannot comment on sleep issues because my computer never sleeps. However, there have been a lot of comments on the MacNN forums stating that sleep works just fine. As for problems causing the system to hang, I doubt it. I personally was unable to crash the original PB, and I can only assume that stability has increased since then. IMNSHO, even the PB was better and more stable than any of the crap that Microsoft puts out, and the interface was much smoother than anything on any other *nix OS. It can only have gotten better since then. I don't know anything about the video stuff except that I am pretty sure that the Rage 128 pro cards (which are probably in 65%-70% of the G3 and G4 macs on the market, work just fine.

A LOT of people are saying that Apple should not ship an "incomplete" OS on the 24th. Well, the OS is pretty much complete. There may be a few applications that are extra, that may not ship, but the OS is there. And Apple needs to ship this OS so that software companies (who have been holding off porting their apps until the OS is finished) will get off their buts and write their software for OS X.

Anyway, most of this is old news. We already went through all of the FUD-mongering last week when c|net broke this "news". I'll tell you what. I'll make a deal with you. My copy of OS X is preordered, DVD or no DVD. I'll give you all a full report of what I think of it, what works, what doesn't, what is better than OS 9.1 or any other OS out there, and what is worse. I see MacOS X as a Good Thing(tm) and I will have it as soon as possible.

Cheers. ^_^

The MacNN article only seems to contest the statement from Wired News that Mr. Jobs used profanity in every sentance. Obviously this isn't true, we all know this. It's called hyberbole, the stretching of the truth to emphasize your point. Hyberbole is a fairly common device that writers use to make their writing more vivid and we should all know when it is happening and how to interpret it. When Wired News says in an editorial piece "Every sentence he uttered -- every single one -- contained an expletive" we should be able to interpret that as "Mr. Jobs used profanity in quantities that many would consider excessive." The fact that Mr. Jobs may have uttered a sentance during the session which did not contain an expletive is neither news nor grounds for discrediting Mr. Kahney's article on Wired News.
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I submitted this, but it didn't make the cut, and since I fell below the 26-karma level (for no apparent reason; I haven't moderated in a while, got modded up a few times, and still it falls....but I digress) I have no fear of posting it here.

Remember the Wired article talking about how profane Steve Jobs was at a recent reseller meeting? We even talked about it just the other day. Well, MacNN has a different take on the subject after talking to some of the attendees.

Er, if you care.


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How many watched the "Macworld Expo" Live? I read that Apple/Akamai were delivering 3.2gb/sec.

Info at macnn

I dont recall anything pushing a single stream that hard(id love to know, maybe presidential the stuff), but i think that it speaks for itself.

On the other hand, Microsoft announced Office for Mac OS X this morning. That's a s close as we're likely to see Office on Unix.

This screenshot shows a vertical dock. The grab is supposedly of a newer build of OSX than the Public Beta, one with a more customizable interface--most notably a movable dock (duh--Steve takes out the vertical option to make the weenies all shout in unison--Give us choices!! And Steve obliges--Sheesh) and notice the resurrection of the sacred Apple menu, which when confirmed will be great news for old school Mac faithful. This screenshot shows Terminal app with the dock moving commands (which don't work in PB btw) and this screenshot shows a configuration of the finder (file browser) with what looks like windowshade widget and a what is being called a "shelf" The links came from a Danish MacOSX site and I found them on this thread at MacNN where the guy who posted them goes by the name JLL.

I always get a chuckle when I read the predominantly Linux using readers of SlashDot badmouth the MacOS and/or Mac Users.. With that said, you may want to take a look at the general Mac OS X user forum at osx.macnn.com. Of particular relevence to this discussion are:

• Customizing the OSX interface
• Colorsynch feedback moderated by the head of Apple's Colorsynch group..

The MacOS isn't perfect, and neither is OS X.. A number of the reader submissions to the "customizing the interface" are questions and/or suggestions regarding turning off transparency, drop shadows, and making the windows rectangular.. These are adjustments that require a bit of work right now, but improve the effective speed of the interface. And you're right in claiming that they're not alterations that Apple is going to promote people making. But a handful of theme construction tools are already being put together, and the effects can be turned off if you want it bad enough..

I always get a chuckle when I read the predominantly Linux using readers of SlashDot badmouth the MacOS and/or Mac Users.. With that said, you may want to take a look at the general Mac OS X user forum at osx.macnn.com. Of particular relevence to this discussion are:

• Customizing the OSX interface
• Colorsynch feedback moderated by the head of Apple's Colorsynch group..

The MacOS isn't perfect, and neither is OS X.. A number of the reader submissions to the "customizing the interface" are questions and/or suggestions regarding turning off transparency, drop shadows, and making the windows rectangular.. These are adjustments that require a bit of work right now, but improve the effective speed of the interface. And you're right in claiming that they're not alterations that Apple is going to promote people making. But a handful of theme construction tools are already being put together, and the effects can be turned off if you want it bad enough..

I always get a chuckle when I read the predominantly Linux using readers of SlashDot badmouth the MacOS and/or Mac Users.. With that said, you may want to take a look at the general Mac OS X user forum at osx.macnn.com. Of particular relevence to this discussion are:

• Customizing the OSX interface
• Colorsynch feedback moderated by the head of Apple's Colorsynch group..

The MacOS isn't perfect, and neither is OS X.. A number of the reader submissions to the "customizing the interface" are questions and/or suggestions regarding turning off transparency, drop shadows, and making the windows rectangular.. These are adjustments that require a bit of work right now, but improve the effective speed of the interface. And you're right in claiming that they're not alterations that Apple is going to promote people making. But a handful of theme construction tools are already being put together, and the effects can be turned off if you want it bad enough..

The REAL jabber has the /. user id: 13196

An abridged repost of something I wrote before, to someone who couldn't see the use of this product:

I have a compatible PowerBook which I use for programming and art. The computer supports driving 2 monitors to make an extended work area, running the LCD at 1024x768 and an external CRT at 1280x1024. Unfortunately, it only has 8MB of VRAM (a fault corrected in the latest generation of PowerBooks), so I have to give up 3d acceleration if I make use of this while in my 3d program... a very bad thing. This product - which, as far as my net searches have shown, is completely novel - would allow me to attach an extra graphics card and drive 3 monitors at once (believe me, with big art projects these will all come in handy).

Besides that, I could plug in a cheap ATA controller and create a repository for MP3s I dont want to store on my main hard drive all the time, as well as installs of alternate OS's and the like. The PowerBook G3's ATA controller uses the main hard drive as an ATA/66 master with no way to connect a slave, making this the only reasonable way to connect additional storage (although a $120 CardBus 20MB/s SCSI card and a SCSI hard drive, or a FireWire hard drive are also options).

So if I install an ATA controller and a Voodoo 3 PCI, I only have 1 slot left for a SCSI card attached to a scanner! (Although FireWire scanners are now more reasonably priced).

Compared to buying a new CPU (especially one on par with my Pismo G3), spending $600 isn't so bad. What's more, when I upgrade the processor daughtercard on my PB, my desktop and my laptop have been upgraded. If I buy this. Which I don't have the money to do. (Or, for that matter, to buy any of these peripherals I've been ranting about). But if this company stays around, I think I have an alternative to getting a desktop...

Besides that, I could plug in a cheap ATA controller and create a repository for MP3s I dont want to store on my main hard drive all the time, as well as installs of alternate OS's and the like. The PowerBook G3's ATA controller uses the main hard drive as an ATA/66 master with no way to connect a slave, making this the only reasonable way to connect additional storage (although a $120 CardBus 20MB/s SCSI card and a SCSI hard drive, or a FireWire hard drive are also options).

So if I install an ATA controller and a Voodoo 3 PCI, I only have 1 slot left for a SCSI card attached to a scanner! (Although FireWire scanners are now more reasonably priced).

Compared to buying a new CPU (especially one on par with my Pismo G3), spending $600 isn't so bad. What's more, when I upgrade the processor daughtercard on my PB, my desktop and my laptop have been upgraded. If I buy this. Which I don't have the money to do. (Or, for that matter, to buy any of these peripherals I've been ranting about). But if this company stays around, I think I have an alternative to getting a desktop...

Fsck this hard drive! Although it probably won't work...
foo = bar/*myPtr;

you can check it out over on the macnn forums and http://osx.macnn.com

On the contrary! Apple is about to outgrow Dell. Bear in mind that's Apple's CFO predicting that, but if you think people aren't going to take notice of their new OS along with their new hardware, then you're blind (or at least color-blind). :)

Apple is also leading the way in wireless networking. They're a long way from a "tiny market."

How much do you think they would give me if I wrote them some html for a new web page that doesn't look like a rip off of MacNN.
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It's on MacNN.

Macnn refers to this guy as Juan Gutierrez.

clif

Apple is also offering a trade in program for a problem with buzzing in the Bose speaker system and power supply of the 20th Anniversary Macintosh

Personally, I believe this is partly to remove the units when they have gone down in value to the point where it is inexpensive enough for Apple, and most importantly, to remove the products that were not designed under the reign of Steve.

If you thought the TAMs were collectors items now...

As some know, this week is MacWorld Expo in NYC, and there is an article at MacNN regarding Netscape's presence at the show, as well as some answers from Chris Nalls, Macintosh Product Manager for Netscape. Check it out for some hard facts.

As some know, this week is MacWorld Expo in NYC, and there is an article at MacNN regarding Netscape's presence at the show, as well as some answers from Chris Nalls, Macintosh Product Manager for Netscape. Check it out for some hard facts.

Sorry, I know the situation you're currently in. You see, I too used to be a MOSR victim. Yes, I read all the Mac rumors sites back in the good old days before Steve Jobs took the helm and clamped down on any legit product info. I watched as site after site closed down or started spewing crap, but I didn't know that they were spewing crap for over a year.

Ryan Meader is full of crap. The Mac Junkie site documents in good detail how willing MOSR is to take anything and post it up as from legit sources. My eyes were opened by parody site mosr.net and other sites, and my own critical eye has caught Apple Insider fibbing on occasion, though they seem to be less obsessed with putting something, anything out no matter how blatantly false it is.

If you want legit news, go to Macintouch or MacNN, but don't trust the rumors sites. They haven't had good hit-miss ratios for over 2 years or so, and since they are in the entertainment business, they don't really care. I just regret getting my Dad hooked on the damn site.