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Re:Prior art
Very odd. I checked out the image on both my Linux and Mac computers and the Mac displays the center two lines blurry in both Safari and Firefox. Safari and Firefox both display the image fine outside of the web page. http://img.microsoft.com/typography/faq/brg.gif It look fine when I display my Linux Firefox on my Mac screen via X.
There seems to be some issue interpreting the image as either 444x210 or 444x211. The web page specifies the image's demensions as 444x210 but the actual dimensions are 444x211.
So is the Mac the only system that is rightfully distorting the image as the HTML dictates?
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Re:Prior art
Ok, looking at the ClearType FAQ, it seems Windows doesn't support the vertical arrangements, but they're probably even rarer. Hopefully you don't have one of those.
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Re:Prior art
Sounds like your display has one of the less common subpixel arrangements. Most displays (I believe) line them up as RGB from left to right, but it's possible to have the order reversed, or to have either order from top to bottom. Try playing around with the ClearType Tuner (the web version requires IE, or there's a downloadable version that installs in Control Panel) and see if one of the other configurations helps. It also works better if your display is set to its native resolution, but you probably already knew that.
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Re:Prior art
Sounds like your display has one of the less common subpixel arrangements. Most displays (I believe) line them up as RGB from left to right, but it's possible to have the order reversed, or to have either order from top to bottom. Try playing around with the ClearType Tuner (the web version requires IE, or there's a downloadable version that installs in Control Panel) and see if one of the other configurations helps. It also works better if your display is set to its native resolution, but you probably already knew that.
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Re:Damn Straight!
So you would be OK if Microsoft purchased all searches for RedHat, SuSe, Ubuntu, Mac, etc.... And every time you tried to search for any of those Items in any search engine you got nothing but links to Microsoft Vista?
I tried to search "RedHat" on this search engine and all I got was links to Microsoft products. Call the police right away!
Google is not a human right, it is a company. They can choose to display whatever they want on their pages. You can choose not to use them if you don't like the results they display. If they continue to return relevant results then I'll continue to use them, if they start returning nothing but MS ads for my Linux searches or start giving me goatse.cx boy every time I click "I'm Feeling Lucky" then I'll probably start using a different search engine. -
Re:Exactly
ClearType is more than just enabling subpixel anti-aliasing.
Its whole point is the wizard that allows the user to choose not only between whether he has BGR or RGB device (first step) but also checks the gamma correction in the second step - thats why most user se the big difference in before and after. There is more than one thing involved there. Actually it is a bit more complicated.
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Re:Prior art
I just looked at a screenshot of "Cleartype" on OS X (From http://www.microsoft.com/typography/ClearTypeFAQ.
m spx). It looks revolting. I use Linux and OS X with subpixel rendering enabled. The first three lines look OK, but it starts to look blurry after that.
Screenshot of my OS X system: http://img248.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture3r p7.png
If you zoom in, you can see I'm definitely using subpixel rendering. I get the odd blurry looking font on my OS X system, but nowhere near the sort of stuff I see on other people's Windows laptops. -
Re:anti-aliasing makes me need glasses
Perhaps if people bothered to tune it for their specific display, it might not look so dodgy? Microsoft provide a tool to do so...
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Re:Firefox 3.0
You don't even have to wait.
Firefox 2.x supports DOM:Storage objects that will already let you store arbitrary data client-side, and IE supports something similar with Persistence and DHTML Behaviors. If you want the same mechanism for multiple browser types you can do some crazy Flash-based stuff as well.
Within the browser storage objects there are some limitations as to size, so that could be part of the new versions. But make no mistake: this feature is already a reality. See Ajaxian or Dojo for more of the same, including concrete implementations. -
Re:please, hepl
Install PowerShell.
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Re:Nope.
Learn how to use a real database. MySQL losers...
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Re:And that won't change soon
Yes, updating is as simple as a single click. It may take a while, but it isn't complicated. If you can't afford a couple hunndred megs of storage, broadband connection, and a firewall, you shouldn't complain about getting owned after 25 seconds online. You can also get SP2 on a CD mailed to you directly from Microsoft .
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Re:And that won't change soon
Actually just running windows update will fix both of the named worms...so even if you do get infected with either of them, once you finally get your updates it should fix it.
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Re:please, hepl
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Re:Still lacking
What flavor of kool-aid do you want today?
Trusting MS or any other sociopathic corporation marketdroids to be honest or complete in their touting is naive at best.
None of URL given reference the lack of IPv6 DHCP stateful address acquisition in the stacks noted in my post. A painful 30 minutes of searching through the boasting turned up "IPv6 protocol for the Windows Server 2003 family does not currently support DHCPv6 or any other stateful address configuration protocol" http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/lib rary/6c05c210-e5f9-4882-b760-d275a80f35091033.mspx
I am well aware the MS has done its typical "bragging rights" half-assed preliminary implemtation of standards for IPv6. Even if they had stateful DHCP implemented in the client, they don't have a functional DHCPv6 server yet to provide the addresses and options (e.g. static CIDR route or NTP server) and wont even be taking a swat at it until 2007Q4 (http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx ?PostID=1436592&SiteID=17) for pity's sake. My point still stands, without the ability of DHCP to shape and organise address allocations according to enterpise requirements, any IPv6 implementation beyond a trivial single site is pretty much masturbatory, while it might feel good to you, nobody else gets anything out of it. -
Re:Still lacking
What flavor of kool-aid do you want today?
Trusting MS or any other sociopathic corporation marketdroids to be honest or complete in their touting is naive at best.
None of URL given reference the lack of IPv6 DHCP stateful address acquisition in the stacks noted in my post. A painful 30 minutes of searching through the boasting turned up "IPv6 protocol for the Windows Server 2003 family does not currently support DHCPv6 or any other stateful address configuration protocol" http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/lib rary/6c05c210-e5f9-4882-b760-d275a80f35091033.mspx
I am well aware the MS has done its typical "bragging rights" half-assed preliminary implemtation of standards for IPv6. Even if they had stateful DHCP implemented in the client, they don't have a functional DHCPv6 server yet to provide the addresses and options (e.g. static CIDR route or NTP server) and wont even be taking a swat at it until 2007Q4 (http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx ?PostID=1436592&SiteID=17) for pity's sake. My point still stands, without the ability of DHCP to shape and organise address allocations according to enterpise requirements, any IPv6 implementation beyond a trivial single site is pretty much masturbatory, while it might feel good to you, nobody else gets anything out of it. -
Re:Still lacking
None of the MS stacks support it.
Are you sure? I thought it was supported on Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, and Windows Vista? And I thought there was a whole upgrade plan laid out?
Perhaps I'm wrong. Thanks for letting me know!
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Re:Still lacking
None of the MS stacks support it.
Are you sure? I thought it was supported on Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, and Windows Vista? And I thought there was a whole upgrade plan laid out?
Perhaps I'm wrong. Thanks for letting me know!
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Re:Still lacking
None of the MS stacks support it.
Are you sure? I thought it was supported on Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, and Windows Vista? And I thought there was a whole upgrade plan laid out?
Perhaps I'm wrong. Thanks for letting me know!
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Re:Still lacking
None of the MS stacks support it.
Are you sure? I thought it was supported on Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, and Windows Vista? And I thought there was a whole upgrade plan laid out?
Perhaps I'm wrong. Thanks for letting me know!
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Re:Still lacking
None of the MS stacks support it.
Are you sure? I thought it was supported on Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, and Windows Vista? And I thought there was a whole upgrade plan laid out?
Perhaps I'm wrong. Thanks for letting me know!
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Re:Still lacking
None of the MS stacks support it.
Are you sure? I thought it was supported on Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, and Windows Vista? And I thought there was a whole upgrade plan laid out?
Perhaps I'm wrong. Thanks for letting me know!
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Re:Late April Fools? Please...
Microsoft actually released the Critical Update Notification Tool. They later changed the "tool" to "utility", but fear not, it is still referenced in a couple of places with its original name.
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Re:Late April Fools? Please...
Microsoft actually released the Critical Update Notification Tool. They later changed the "tool" to "utility", but fear not, it is still referenced in a couple of places with its original name.
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Re:Wait, wait...
You're right, it also work in Vista (the only intouchable processes are the "protected" ones, like Winlogon). Unfortunately, we are forced to use it, for achieve trivial tasks such grabbing the cursor icon used inside third party application window, and other "accessibility" hooks, as the officially provided by Microsoft are not enough. Personally, I hate to use these tricks, IMO it is the result of a bad OS design, as we are not using it for "evil" applications, just normal ones that make the average Joe's life easier.
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Re:It would be nice to have real information on th
advisory: http://www.determina.com/security.research/vulner
a bilities/ani-header.html
proof of concept source code: http://www.milw0rm.com/exploits/3651
third party patch source code: http://aircash.sourceforge.net/zerodaypatches.html
information from Microsoft: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin /MS07-017.mspx -
No, debuggers can't have special privileges
When you start a process, you start it with a certain set of privileges. If you're logged on as administrator, your calls to CreateProcess can start processes with a different set of privileges.
When you make a Windows API call to something like CreateRemoteThread, you need a handle to the process you're interested in. If the right security bits aren't set (and they get set by the call to CreateProcess), CreateRemoteThread returns unsuccessfully.
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No, debuggers can't have special privileges
When you start a process, you start it with a certain set of privileges. If you're logged on as administrator, your calls to CreateProcess can start processes with a different set of privileges.
When you make a Windows API call to something like CreateRemoteThread, you need a handle to the process you're interested in. If the right security bits aren't set (and they get set by the call to CreateProcess), CreateRemoteThread returns unsuccessfully.
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WHat the heck? Windows processes are WEIRD
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/vista/proces
s _Vista.mspx
Protected processes have additional security restrictions, but apparently in vista, they are strange beasts. Parent processes can always obtain a handle to a child process. So, you can't have a child process become a true daemon?
Processes can "inject threads" into other processes? Buhuh?
Here's apparently more of what processes can't do to Protected Processes do in Windows:
Inject a thread into a protected process
Access the virtual memory of a protected process
Debug an active protected process
Duplicate a handle from a protected process
Change the quota or working set of a protected process
So yer telling me, normal processes can do this to other normal processes in windows?
Irrespective of any kind of access restrictions on Linux, process memory space is a lot more sacrosanct. To even get the same level of process seperation would apparently require the setting of a lot of ACLs in windows, if it can be done at all.
The footnote at the end is the best though!
"Do not attempt to circumvent this restriction by installing a kernel-mode component to access the memory of a protected process because the system and third-party applications may rely on the fact that protected processes are signed code that is run in a contained environment. "
Please play nice with our restriction scheme!
I bet this is what our enterprising hacker has done.
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Still a chance to redeem themselves?IMHO Microsoft could easily redeem themselves by simply releasing scaled down versions of vista that will run on older hardware. It was a big mistake for them to not think of small businesses and put them high on the priority list of customers. Most small businesses that I deal with will not even consider an expensive hardware upgrade and an even more expensive set of site license purchases just so they can run a more "secure" version of Windows. The software giant could create a huge market overnight if they just quickly took advantage of the huge existing number of desktop work stations that have p111s and older p4s with 256 meg of ram. After all the Aero desktop is not a priority for someone running Quicken.
It is telling that a scaled down version of Vista is already available to customers in countries other than the so called first world.http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/w
i ndowsvista/editions/starter/default.mspxConsidering the fact that the majority of small businesses in so called developed countries are living a hand to mouth existance the move to create a secure cheap version of Windows might increase Microsofts revenues. There are many who would welcome not having to run stupid anti-virus crap just so that they can do their books!
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Re:Incompetent Liars
It also is aesthetically pleasing. While there has been lots of effort put into making things like KDE look good, the individual shiny buttons and bars don't agree with a universal theme. Windows development is centralized, so the everything fits together visually. I personally prefer the look of Windows XP to any OS (note I haven't used Vista), just because the gradients, buttons, and esp the fonts all fit together smoothly.
Sadly, the uniform look&feel of Windows has been slowly becoming worse in recent years, and hit a new low with Vista. In XP we had slightly 2 fonts: Tahoma and MS Sans Serif. Those were used by different applications somewhat at random, but at least they looked similar (though if you enabled ClearType, you'd easily spot MS Sans Serif, since it's a bitmap font, and as such, not anti-aliased). Then .NET and WinForms came and added Microsoft Sans Serif to the list (note, this isn't the same as "MS Sans Serif" - it's a True Type font and thus looks slightly different). What more, some controls in WinForms applications use GDI+ engine to render their text, which does font smoothing slightly more blurry than the default (GDI) ClearType renderer. Now with Vista, we have a new default UI font, Segoe UI... but still quite a few system dialogs and stock applications use Tahoma and/or MS Sans Serif. Then came WPF with its own "improved ClearType with subpixel glyph positioning", which in effect makes fonts look even more blurry, and quite visibly different from the default renderer in both XP and Vista. And that's just fonts. Need I remind how the look&feel of MS Office changed with every release since Office 2000, and was never consistent with the default look of the then-current OS at the time? And now Vista, which does not use the default look even for its own system dialogs and the most basic utilities (file Open/Save dialog, Explorer, IE to name a few). WPF is also very inviting in its rich capabilities to style widgets different from native OS L&F, and those few WPF applications that we've seen so far, including those from Microsoft itself, seem to be using those features heavily to present their own application-specific L&F...Sadly, it seems that the time of uniform UI L&F experience on Windows is almost passed.
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Multi-Monitors make money for your company
I work for a large aerospace company. The job I do requires that I switch between about 5 different programs to gather the information I need to generate our final product. Working with one screen was very tedious and error prone.
I was successful in getting dual monitors accepted by my manager and my manager's manager and I started in the position you are in now.
One of the things that I did that I believe was helpful in getting dual monitors accepted was sharing the monitor I had with as many people possible. I used it for a week, then put it on another person's desk for a couple of days with the understanding that they would write up how they used it and what they thought of it. About 15 people got to test drive it and I got positive responses from almost every one who used it. We found that setup time was about 5 minutes and the learning curve was almost non-existent.
The other thing that helped was figuring the number of minutes per week that it would take to pay for the monitor over its lifespan.
A monitor must be purchased (assume your company will get a loan to pay for them and will therefore pay interest), delivered, installed, maintained, insured, and cooled by the building's A/C. My calculations (very rough calculations) brought the cost of a 15 inch flat panel monitor over a lifespan of 5 years to about $1000. At my "fully burdened labor rate" (basically what the company charges the customer for my labor; HR might be able to get this data for you) of about 120 dollars per hour in 5 years I would need to save 2 minutes a week to break even. 2 minutes a week for 5 years is about 9 hours over the life of the monitor and some of the testimonials that I got back from the people I shared the monitor with were reporting saving 30 minutes in the first day.
Do the calculations for saving 2 minutes per day and suddenly you are making the company some money. If you even get close to the commonly reported 10% boost in productivity (4 hours per week!?!) they should rename a holiday for you.
MANAGERS: If your people use multiple programs concurrently to do their jobs, you will be hero to your employees AND to your management if you introduce multiple monitors.
As far as research that supports the claim of increased productivity with multiple monitors, as of a year ago when I was looking, I found that most articles referenced a paper from the University of Utah entitled "Productivity and Multi-Screen Displays" . This paper makes the claim that productivity is increased by 10%.
The other study I found was done by Microsoft and was called "Toward Characterizing the Productivity Benefits of Very Large Displays" This study concludes "...Users were significantly faster working on the large display. In addition, all but one participant preferred carrying out the tasks on the larger display surface, and user satisfaction measures were significantly better for the larger display...". -
Re:Abandoned monitor...
Why? There are plenty of studies showing that dual monitors provide a benefit. Sounds like he'd be better of just finding them. Since it sounds like he's dealing with PHBs I'd start with a nice Microsoft article http://research.microsoft.com/displayArticle.aspx
? id=433 Googling "dual monitor productivity study" gives plenty of answers to this question, whereas asking slashdot apparently leads to a lot of tangents (have you seen the first half of the responses, it's something about hidden costs and government companies who print money, I don't know, I skimmed alot) It's true though, the studies are pretty useless as anyone who's used one will attest, it's just better. The question, in my opinion, is what's the right number... 2,3,4... I think our biggest rig monitor wise is around 18 (not a developer), but I think 4 is the right number for me, though 3 suffices pretty well. -
Research Paper...
I looked around a bit and found a paper that shows up to 73% increase of productivity for people who use large (30"+) screens. Two small (17"+) screens are equal to one large one at the fraction of the price right? Here is the paper http://research.microsoft.com/users/marycz/Intera
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Two screens are better than one
Microsoft has a research article up about this very subject:
http://research.microsoft.com/displayArticle.aspx? id=433
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Lifehacker/New York Times article
I think the story you were searching for can be found here:
http://lifehacker.com/software/dual-monitor/dual-m onitors-increase-productivity-168488.php
this is a good one too, but it's written by microsoft...so i have to believe it's riddled with lies
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Re:On linux...
Vista has an Equivalent Tool.
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No it has not!Read http://www.microsoft.com/msft/reports/ar06/static
v ersion/10k_fr_dis.htmlHome and Entertainment division lost $1.2billion dollars in 2006. If that is "worked", then I have a bridge to sell you.
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real research
i personally refuse to dig through the sea of comments just to see if this is a dupe or not.. so sue me... but heres what you're asking for: http://research.microsoft.com/displayArticle.aspx
? id=433 a link to some funded research... hope it helps.
additionally, if you are one of "those" and are gonna start a microsoft flame war here then just don't... save it.. been done, and its old. This is research and its directly related to what the writer was asking, so there. -
Here you go
Would some study results from a research company help persuade your bosses?
Microsoft researchers haven't perfected the genie, but they've found a tool that can increase your productivity by 9 to 50 percent and make your work day easier. And you can begin using it right away. The researchers conducted user studies that proved the effectiveness of adding a second or even third monitor to your workstation, creating a wide-screen effect. In addition, they found out how the operating system needs to change to accommodate a larger screen area.
http://research.microsoft.com/displayarticle.aspx? id=433Or how about this one?
A systematic study conducted by NEC-MitsubishiOpen link in new window, ATI TechnologiesOpen link in new window and the University of UtahOpen link in new window has concluded that the use of multiple monitors in the workplace increases productivity.
Granted, you have to take the results of research with a grain of salt when the team is headed by a company that makes monitors, but still...
And if they're the kind of folks that like anecdotal evidence, just send them here and here.
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Re:Minority Report
Check out the TouchLight video on Andy Wilson's web page. It's strikingly similar to the Minority Report displays, and it doesn't even need any crazy glowing gloves to use it.
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Links on ROI of multiple monitors, from Google
Report by consulting company hired by apple (benchmarking data between monitor sizes and ROI related info)
http://pfeifferreport.com/Cin_Disp30_Bench_Rep.pdf
New York Times Article
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/20/technology/20bas ics.html?ei=5090&en=6fc17b9bf54ea2ef&ex=1303185600 &adxnnl=1&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&adxnnlx=1169 331633-thFPjylVxCrYamq2v9S3Vw
Microsoft Related Info
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Re:Not as much as a good window manager will
Microsoft provides a free virtual desktop manager as a part of PowerToys that works pretty well.
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Re:Not as much as a good window manager will
Microsoft provides a free virtual desktop manager as a part of PowerToys that works pretty well.
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Re:No Mac or Linux?
Contrary to how it looks like it installs on Firefox, it's not an addon, it's a plugin.
On top of that you need ADMINISTRATIVE rights to install.
Here's the xpi for your viewing pleasure.
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Re:aac is not in EVERY hardware playerSelling non-DRM'd music makes them free to choose among non-DRM'd formats, and there are a shit ton of them:
WMV: costs money per song, and is only supported by a small number of clients. Bullshit. Microsoft provides free encoding software (for Windows) and does not charge any licensing fees or royalties for distributing content in non-DRM'd WMA or WMV. -
Re:MP3AAC DOES NOT HAVE A CONTENT TAX
A percentage of every MP3 or WMA sold goes to the encoder maker, like a DVD or a PlayStation game. Complete and utter bullshit. Distributing content in WMA without DRM has no licensing fees or royalties. Heck, MS's encoding software is free. Unlike you, I have a link.The rest of you comment is pro-Apple fanboy gibberish. All bold statements with no facts or proof. No wonder you got modded up.
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Re:...another "social engineering" virusthere are some emails going around that take you to a website with nude pictures of britney spears. Go to that website and just let your pc download the pictures on the site. Let me know how that goes. Remember don't double click on any exe files.
You also might want to read this site: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisor
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Since when?
'We've been saying for a while that we are aware that consumers want to have unprotected content.'
Since when? As far as I know, what they are trying is to provide the ultimate protection to content, from the file format to the media player software to the output hardware. -
Since when?
'We've been saying for a while that we are aware that consumers want to have unprotected content.'
Since when? As far as I know, what they are trying is to provide the ultimate protection to content, from the file format to the media player software to the output hardware.