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I find it rather counter-productive that it's been "officially" released (meaning it counts toward the countdown) for just over an hour now and the Firefox page at http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/ still lists 2.0.0.14 for download. Sure, there's a link for a "sneak peak" (i.e., 3.0 RC3), but nothing for the full release?

So.. What is this? It seems like something is counting downloads from somewhere? http://downloadcounter.sj.mozilla.com/

When browsing with Lynx.it still shows Firefox 2
:

lynx http://www.mozilla.com/products/download.html

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http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all.html

still showing Firefox 2?

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-rc.html

Still shows 3.0rc3

Am I missing something?

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all.html

still showing Firefox 2?

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-rc.html

Still shows 3.0rc3

Am I missing something?

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all.html

still showing Firefox 2?

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-rc.html

Still shows 3.0rc3

Am I missing something?

• Introducing Weave
• Latest Weave Status Update
• Weave Registration

• Introducing Weave
• Latest Weave Status Update
• Weave Registration

• Introducing Weave
• Latest Weave Status Update
• Weave Registration

I have always loved GBS and didn't think I could live without it in Firefox. But Mozilla has been working on Weave [mozilla.com] and so far it has done a great job syncing. Its not quite as good at GBS yet, but from their plans for future updates, it looks like it will be a good replacement, now that Google has dropped support and is taking servers offline for the beloved Firefox extension.

I had to use the direct link http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=win&lang=en-US to download FF3. Otherwise I got "The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading." and "The server at www.spreadfirefox.com is taking too long to respond." from Mozilla http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/?from=getfirefox and Spread Fire Fox respectively.

But now http://www.spreadfirefox.com/worldrecord is "Slashdotted" and http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/ is still showing Firefox 2.

I wanted to help them with their download record, but http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/ doesn't seems to work. Maybe I'll try later.

I've reached http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/ several times since 1pm, and it's still showing the download for Firefox 2, not 3.

And that makes we wonder, is it just the "download day" that starts at 1pm, or are they actually releasing it at 1pm? the wording in the summary is vague.

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/outages.html

If you are going to try to get people to download all at once, use a CDN.

Because http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/ is not working right now.

Yup, Weave is going to be taking off soon. You can find out a lot more about it here:

http://labs.mozilla.com/2008/06/weave-status-update/

And I talked with Sean Michael Kerner about it for a while, and he posted the video of that chat here:

http://blog.internetnews.com/skerner/2008/06/mozilla-weave-gears-up-for-new.html

I would be great to run this on my own trusted server, and would the be only way I might run the extension.

However I don't think Google should open source it in this case. Mostly because of my own needless paranoia. (But this is Slashdot so no one will notice.)

Why? What percentage of FF's user base runs their own server? We can only guess, but probably somewhere in the realm of 0.001%. Or less. (There are 1.4 bil internet users, you do the math.) So virtually no one is going to run their own server.

What a perfect opportunity for Lucky Nice Software Co! (A division of Lazy Nefarious Software Company.) LNSC sets up a server, pays some kid a few hundred bucks to put a custom front-end on it, pays another kid the same amount to set up a professional looking web site and then a little more to advertise. Add a long EULA that says they can store and rape all of your data and you've got a profitable business for little trouble and a small amount of capital.

An -now- it looks like something my Mom might use. And because it looks nice and legitimate and has been advertised it will be several orders of magnitude more popular than your version.

Sure, software isn't unique. If one person can do it, so can another. But there is making guns, and then there is selling guns to terrorists.

And in this case, there is one good alternative and another open source initiative that could replace (and supersede) it that you can contribute to. I encourage you to.

http://labs.mozilla.com/featured-projects/#weave - though still in beta, was impressive last time I tried it. Just wish there was a similar feature for Safari on Mac and IE on Windows...

Foxmarks is by no means poorly maintained, even as a non-paying user they provided excellent support when I had a problem. And if you are concerned about your privacy, there will soon be a good enough version of Weave which encrypts your information before uploading it to Mozilla's servers and is completely open source.

Most people haven't been able to log in for the past two days, and there's no information on when it'll be fixed.

https://labs.mozilla.com/forum/index.php/topic,832.0.html

Alas, reliability is rather important for this kind of service.

Mozilla Weave does similar stuff... http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/12/introducing-weave/

I've been using it for a while and it's pretty good, even though it's still under lots of development.

True, but clicking Release Notes in the Help menu takes you here, which strangely says "Release Candidate 3" if you updated yesterday. He's likely not running RC1, but this new RC3.

Easiest thing to do: locate your profile folder. Make a copy of it (or zip file, or tar archive, etc.) Upgrade to Firefox 3, and then if you don't like it, you can copy the original profile back after you uninstall.

It's a real shame that they are releasing it with so many serious bugs remaining.

I, and many others, have been experiencing multiple crashes on a daily basis in all betas and release candidates. I have filed a bug report (and I submit the problem every time it crashes) and yet they never really acknowledge it exists.

The problem is Mac OSX specific and is something to do with the native theme and Objective-C in the DrawCellWithScaling section. I'd try and fix it myself, but I don't know and don't want to know Objective-C.

Encrypt, encrypt, encrypt.

Encrypt your entire computer disk.
www.truecrypt.org

Encrypted connection to the internet.
www.cotse.com

Use encrypted email.
http://quicksilvermail.net/
(or one of many other email encryption programs, including Thunderbird)
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/

    You must move to protect yourself from present day governments that are increasing hostile toward their citizens. They are godless and have deserted their consciences for political and personal gain.

    I have written a program that does a hard shutdown of my full disk TrueCrypted computer when anyone clicks or moves the mouse, presses a key, or plugs or unplugs anything into my computer. I have not put it out in public yet because of it being potential used by the bad guys. However, the more intrusive governments become, the more I am tempted to make it public. The above tactics are the only way law abiding citizens are going to be able to stop these government tyrants from trying to build false cases against us. In the end, you and I can prevail if you are willing to. You will not be able to give in to their threats (including the extremely vicious prosecutor practice of heaping multiple charges upon you to try to place you in fear and thus agreeing to confess to a lesser charge to get the others dropped.)

Remember the good-old days when Mozilla (and Firefox) release notes actually talked about bugs fixed, features introduced, and interesting things? When each version actually informed you about what had changed?

Going to mozilla.org (or .com) and trying to find betas is now impossible. No, really... there are no links to non-release versions.

Except for the big ol' link under "What's New" on mozilla.com, called Firefox 3 Sneak Peek, which leads to the RC download page. That page, in turn, has a big ol' link up at the top to the release notes. That page is a long list of new features (although I'll admit it's light on specifically what bugs were fixed, and what's "interesting" is subjective).

Remember the good-old days when Mozilla (and Firefox) release notes actually talked about bugs fixed, features introduced, and interesting things? When each version actually informed you about what had changed?

Going to mozilla.org (or .com) and trying to find betas is now impossible. No, really... there are no links to non-release versions.

Except for the big ol' link under "What's New" on mozilla.com, called Firefox 3 Sneak Peek, which leads to the RC download page. That page, in turn, has a big ol' link up at the top to the release notes. That page is a long list of new features (although I'll admit it's light on specifically what bugs were fixed, and what's "interesting" is subjective).

• The IME input tool used to enter Japanese, Korean, Chinese and Indic characters covers the "Add Bookmark" panel. Users can use IME for input in the Library window by selecting "Organize Bookmarks..." from the Bookmarks menu (bug 433340)
• Some users who have customized toolbars may need to reset them if they are missing the Back and Forward buttons (bug 426026)
• Some Web pages (such as mlb.com) do not properly detect if Silverlight is installed and will not function properly (bug 432371)

• Japanese, Korean, Chinese and Indic characters can not be entered (using IME) into text fields in Flash objects (bug 357670)
• If you are using IPv6 from a network location that doesn't support IPv6 routing your DNS lookups may be very slow. Set network.dns.disableIPv6 to true as a workaround (bug 417689)

• Users on a PPP connection (dialup or DSL) may find that Firefox always starts in "Offline" mode. Toggle File > Work Offline as a work around (bug 424626)

• If your screen resolution is 800x600 or smaller, you may not be able to see the "Accept" button on the End User License Agreement. Keyboard commands can be used to accept the agreement (bug 433298)
• Ubuntu users who download and install Firefox may find that they cannot install add-ons without first deleting their extensions.rdf file (bug 433371)

• The IME input tool used to enter Japanese, Korean, Chinese and Indic characters covers the "Add Bookmark" panel. Users can use IME for input in the Library window by selecting "Organize Bookmarks..." from the Bookmarks menu (bug 433340)
• Some users who have customized toolbars may need to reset them if they are missing the Back and Forward buttons (bug 426026)
• Some Web pages (such as mlb.com) do not properly detect if Silverlight is installed and will not function properly (bug 432371)

• Japanese, Korean, Chinese and Indic characters can not be entered (using IME) into text fields in Flash objects (bug 357670)
• If you are using IPv6 from a network location that doesn't support IPv6 routing your DNS lookups may be very slow. Set network.dns.disableIPv6 to true as a workaround (bug 417689)

• Users on a PPP connection (dialup or DSL) may find that Firefox always starts in "Offline" mode. Toggle File > Work Offline as a work around (bug 424626)

• If your screen resolution is 800x600 or smaller, you may not be able to see the "Accept" button on the End User License Agreement. Keyboard commands can be used to accept the agreement (bug 433298)
• Ubuntu users who download and install Firefox may find that they cannot install add-ons without first deleting their extensions.rdf file (bug 433371)

"One interesting thing I've found talking to average Joe (who doesn't have any personal agenda to fulfil as to whether they use IE or Firefox) is that they find all this Firefox publicity as vain"

I've never come across an average Joe that has even heard of a 'release candidate', never mind knowing what one is. I don't believe they are aimed at the average Joe, unless you know different. People would be off directing them to the current stable release. I mean without 'release candidates', Mozilla would they get less user feedback and retard the development of Firefox ..

"Release candidates are development packages released to check if any critical problems have slipped into the code during the previous development period"

The announcement clearly states not to link to the download page. Link to the announcement page instead, as the download page will change.

Firefox 3 Release Candidate 2 Release Notes

I found it linked to on the Firefox 3 download page.

Firefox 3 Release Candidate 2 Release Notes

I found it linked to on the Firefox 3 download page.

third party paid support

plus, it's a freaking web browser. you point, you click, it works. really, what problems do you need real support for with kindergarten aged children?

I'm clicking on your link, but nothing is happening. Am I doing it wrong?

I click the link and it DOES bring up the page.

Hi, sorry, I was teasing you. You pasted a URL, but did not make it a link. Do you perhaps have a linkifier? Because, not everyone does.

HEY! Thanks for that! I just recently stopped making an explicit link in posts here because they seemed to automagically turn into a link anyway. I just figured it was some /. feature. No idea how long it'd take for me to discover it was my linkification Firefox addon unless you had pointed it out! Thanks again!

I'm clicking on your link, but nothing is happening. Am I doing it wrong?

I click the link and it DOES bring up the page.

Hi, sorry, I was teasing you. You pasted a URL, but did not make it a link. Do you perhaps have a linkifier? Because, not everyone does.

HEY! Thanks for that! I just recently stopped making an explicit link in posts here because they seemed to automagically turn into a link anyway. I just figured it was some /. feature. No idea how long it'd take for me to discover it was my linkification Firefox addon unless you had pointed it out! Thanks again!

Here's a page that tracks add-on compatibility: http://people.mozilla.com/~polvi/threedom/status-bars.html . Note the "bug" links, which send you to bugs tracking the status of the most popular add-ons. I found it interesting that Firebug incompatibility is actually blocking the final public release of Firefox 3! (See here, note the "blocking-firefox3" flag.) I think they're being quite careful with making sure the most popular add-ons are available.

There could be a bit of a "long tail" problem, though. There is a huge number of smaller add-ons which should strive to be compatible at release-time, too.

If this actually counts, I believe you are cheating even more than you intended!

From the man page:
-c
Continue getting a partially-downloaded file.

As you would have already downloaded the file the first time, wget would not have anything to resume! Try this instead:

while /bin/true; do wget -O /dev/null http://download.mozilla.com/whatever/firefox-3.0.0-is-awesome.tar.gz; done

That's ok, I thought it was referring to the Mozilla Labs application named Prism.

and testing their server capacity.

while /bin/true; do wget -c http://download.mozilla.com/whatever/firefox-3.0.0-is-awesome.tar.gz; done

Well--I'm ready to help them meet their goal. ;)

Have you tried the Mozilla Weave project? It offers bookmark syncing among other synching features. It will likely be integrated into the browser at somepoint. http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/12/introducing-weave/

Considering that innerHTML can contain HTML and not just text, it makes sense that it is named the way that it is.

Perhaps if you had more familiarity with CSS you'd realize just how broken Internet Explorer is. IE failing to properly render valid HTML/CSS that displays correctly in all other browsers is far too common, and more often than not, IE6 and IE7 can be counted upon to break it in entirely different manners.

Your observations of the speed of Firefox do not mirror mine, and I've installed it on some horribly under-powered Windows machines. Perhaps you should run an operating system that isn't incomplete, or keep your amazingly talented browser-killing cat away from your keyboard.

Seriously, if you're syncing your preferences, why didn't you just revert them? Any changes made go in your profile.

Do you really think that the people writing the W3C specifications know nothing about writing browsers?

I really don't know

It's easily acquired at http://www.mozilla.com/