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The source code(Mozilla.org blocks these links, so you'll have to copy and paste them in a new tab.) Here's the offending source code checkins. The biggest chunk of code is in mozilla/docshell/base/nsWebShell.cpp. Fortunately, there's code that turns off the ping functionality if browser.send_pings is set to false, (posted below for reference)
// check prefs to see if pings are enabled
nsCOMPtr<nsIPrefBranch> prefs =
do_GetService(NS_PREFSERVICE_CONTRACTID);
if (prefs) {
PRBool allow = PR_TRUE;
prefs->GetBoolPref("browser.send_pings", &allow);
if (!allow)
return;
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Don't worry yet"Quietly" refers to Mozilla's inclusion of this feature in the nightly trunk versions, not the official version available for download. That's hardly cause for concern. I'll bet most of the features added to nightlies are "quiet", so that's just a bit of fear mongering. It's a development version! I personally don't like the idea of pings that much, but I'm willing to bet it will have a UI to allow disabling when it's released to the masses. According to the bug request to implement it:
We should try and do an experimental implementation of , to see if there are any unexpected real-world problems.
That's what nightlies are for! We now see that it's a controversial tag (and they're probably already well-aware), so they're giving it a shot. Would you rather them just say "no, we don't like that potential standard, so we're not going to try implementing it"? -
Submitter is a melodramatic idiot
- You are talking about a feature just added to a development tree, not something in a released version of Firefox.
- This feature can already be disabled (if you happen to be running a development version) using the 'browser.send_pings' preference.
- They didn't "quietly enable" a feature, they did it in front of everyone interested. There are plenty of bugs in bugzilla talking about the implementation of this feature. If you are running a development version of Firefox and can't be bothered to keep up with what is going on in the development community, that's your problem.
Check out: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3193
6 8 // check prefs to see if pings are enabled
nsCOMPtr<nsIPrefBranch> prefs = do_GetService(NS_PREFSERVICE_CONTRACTID);
if (prefs) {
PRBool allow = PR_TRUE;
prefs->GetBoolPref("browser.send_pings", &allow);
if (!allow)
return;
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Re:Bravo
The menu for tabs when you have too many open,
Tab Mix Plus gives you several option to deal with too many tabs. I currently prefer the one where extraneous tabs are hidden and you scroll with the mouse wheel to determine which ones get shown. I'd also prefer that over a menu (zero clutter and lower perceived overhead, as there are no clicks necessary to go through all tabs).
the ability to remeber all web pages when you close and then reopen the browser. (Also works if you kill opera with task manager so Id assume it works in a crash.)
Tab Mix Plus also does that. If you don't like TMP you can use the traditional one, Session Saver.
the notes side bar,
I had one but removed it as it saw no use.
the IRC option, ...ChatZilla...
a better transfer manager.
I'm quite happy with Download Statusbar, which keeps all downloads in your sight without much clutter. If you prefer external download managers, FlashGot provides tie-ins for most popular ones. If you want to transfer something from your computer, Firefox also has an FTP client.
While Firefox might not be the most versatile browser out of the box it's extremely easy to install extensions and/or plugins which greatly increase its usefulness.
Besides, the stability and memory usage has much improved with version 1.5. -
Re:Bravo
The menu for tabs when you have too many open,
Tab Mix Plus gives you several option to deal with too many tabs. I currently prefer the one where extraneous tabs are hidden and you scroll with the mouse wheel to determine which ones get shown. I'd also prefer that over a menu (zero clutter and lower perceived overhead, as there are no clicks necessary to go through all tabs).
the ability to remeber all web pages when you close and then reopen the browser. (Also works if you kill opera with task manager so Id assume it works in a crash.)
Tab Mix Plus also does that. If you don't like TMP you can use the traditional one, Session Saver.
the notes side bar,
I had one but removed it as it saw no use.
the IRC option, ...ChatZilla...
a better transfer manager.
I'm quite happy with Download Statusbar, which keeps all downloads in your sight without much clutter. If you prefer external download managers, FlashGot provides tie-ins for most popular ones. If you want to transfer something from your computer, Firefox also has an FTP client.
While Firefox might not be the most versatile browser out of the box it's extremely easy to install extensions and/or plugins which greatly increase its usefulness.
Besides, the stability and memory usage has much improved with version 1.5. -
Re:Bravo
The menu for tabs when you have too many open,
Tab Mix Plus gives you several option to deal with too many tabs. I currently prefer the one where extraneous tabs are hidden and you scroll with the mouse wheel to determine which ones get shown. I'd also prefer that over a menu (zero clutter and lower perceived overhead, as there are no clicks necessary to go through all tabs).
the ability to remeber all web pages when you close and then reopen the browser. (Also works if you kill opera with task manager so Id assume it works in a crash.)
Tab Mix Plus also does that. If you don't like TMP you can use the traditional one, Session Saver.
the notes side bar,
I had one but removed it as it saw no use.
the IRC option, ...ChatZilla...
a better transfer manager.
I'm quite happy with Download Statusbar, which keeps all downloads in your sight without much clutter. If you prefer external download managers, FlashGot provides tie-ins for most popular ones. If you want to transfer something from your computer, Firefox also has an FTP client.
While Firefox might not be the most versatile browser out of the box it's extremely easy to install extensions and/or plugins which greatly increase its usefulness.
Besides, the stability and memory usage has much improved with version 1.5. -
Re:Bravo
The menu for tabs when you have too many open,
Tab Mix Plus gives you several option to deal with too many tabs. I currently prefer the one where extraneous tabs are hidden and you scroll with the mouse wheel to determine which ones get shown. I'd also prefer that over a menu (zero clutter and lower perceived overhead, as there are no clicks necessary to go through all tabs).
the ability to remeber all web pages when you close and then reopen the browser. (Also works if you kill opera with task manager so Id assume it works in a crash.)
Tab Mix Plus also does that. If you don't like TMP you can use the traditional one, Session Saver.
the notes side bar,
I had one but removed it as it saw no use.
the IRC option, ...ChatZilla...
a better transfer manager.
I'm quite happy with Download Statusbar, which keeps all downloads in your sight without much clutter. If you prefer external download managers, FlashGot provides tie-ins for most popular ones. If you want to transfer something from your computer, Firefox also has an FTP client.
While Firefox might not be the most versatile browser out of the box it's extremely easy to install extensions and/or plugins which greatly increase its usefulness.
Besides, the stability and memory usage has much improved with version 1.5. -
Re:Bravo
The menu for tabs when you have too many open,
Tab Mix Plus gives you several option to deal with too many tabs. I currently prefer the one where extraneous tabs are hidden and you scroll with the mouse wheel to determine which ones get shown. I'd also prefer that over a menu (zero clutter and lower perceived overhead, as there are no clicks necessary to go through all tabs).
the ability to remeber all web pages when you close and then reopen the browser. (Also works if you kill opera with task manager so Id assume it works in a crash.)
Tab Mix Plus also does that. If you don't like TMP you can use the traditional one, Session Saver.
the notes side bar,
I had one but removed it as it saw no use.
the IRC option, ...ChatZilla...
a better transfer manager.
I'm quite happy with Download Statusbar, which keeps all downloads in your sight without much clutter. If you prefer external download managers, FlashGot provides tie-ins for most popular ones. If you want to transfer something from your computer, Firefox also has an FTP client.
While Firefox might not be the most versatile browser out of the box it's extremely easy to install extensions and/or plugins which greatly increase its usefulness.
Besides, the stability and memory usage has much improved with version 1.5. -
Re:Read what others are saying:
Most of the "Firefox memory leak" problems are turning out to be poorly coded extensions, such as Adblock. Adblock's memory management problems were fixed just a few days ago. Try the tips on reducing memory usage, and you'll almost certainly find that the "memory leaks" disappear.
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Seamonkey
Seamonkey is counted as Mozilla 1.8. Try the beta by the way Faster and better than FF.
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Firefox's Effect on Web Standards...
Deploying Linux in business environments, I haven't seen a site that absolutely required IE in a long time. Even the banks I deal with have long supported Mozilla and Firefox.
But, just for fun, last week I did a little experiment. I made a list of as many sites with embedded videos that I could, mostly news sites, and tested them against Konqueror and Firefox. I came up with 18 sites in total. The results were that eleven sites worked with both Konqueror and Firefox, three more worked in Firefox only, and only four had absolute requirements that precluded any Linux browser. These ranged from Flash 8.0, which doesn't yet exist for Linux, to ActiveX detection routines.
So, from a small, completely unstatistical sample of the most popular sites I could find, 77% were compatible with Firefox on Linux. 61% were compatible enough to work even in Konqueror. And of the sites that required IE, one was msnbc.com, and two were Viacom companies, mtv.com and vh1.com, that excluded Linux intentionally, citing "Windows DRM" as the reason.
For the tests, I used KMplayer and Xine as the video player, with both Real and Windows Media codecs. I needed the KMplayer plugin for Konqueror and the MediaPlayerconnectivity and User Agent Switcher extensions for Firefox. -
Firefox's Effect on Web Standards...
Deploying Linux in business environments, I haven't seen a site that absolutely required IE in a long time. Even the banks I deal with have long supported Mozilla and Firefox.
But, just for fun, last week I did a little experiment. I made a list of as many sites with embedded videos that I could, mostly news sites, and tested them against Konqueror and Firefox. I came up with 18 sites in total. The results were that eleven sites worked with both Konqueror and Firefox, three more worked in Firefox only, and only four had absolute requirements that precluded any Linux browser. These ranged from Flash 8.0, which doesn't yet exist for Linux, to ActiveX detection routines.
So, from a small, completely unstatistical sample of the most popular sites I could find, 77% were compatible with Firefox on Linux. 61% were compatible enough to work even in Konqueror. And of the sites that required IE, one was msnbc.com, and two were Viacom companies, mtv.com and vh1.com, that excluded Linux intentionally, citing "Windows DRM" as the reason.
For the tests, I used KMplayer and Xine as the video player, with both Real and Windows Media codecs. I needed the KMplayer plugin for Konqueror and the MediaPlayerconnectivity and User Agent Switcher extensions for Firefox. -
Re:The whole privacy movement seems to have fizzle
Try my FireFox extension. It has DES encryption that can be used for email clients, forums, etc. Any text or binary actually. It is true that the other party has to know what password you used for encryption, but that can be agreed upon.
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pssst #2
Mozilla & friends.
Pop unders? Haven't seen em in years. -
Re:Why so difficult?Yes, this extension is one of the first things that get installed when I reformat. A real gem.
Read more and download at, https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.ph
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Re:Bigger growth market
A bigger growth market is, by far, offering a version for Java-based phones (e.g. Opera Mini) and for Pocket PCs.
It's called Minimo, I believe. -
Wrong place
You are posting this to the wrong place. This is a great idea and would make a fantastic addition to firefox other options. But you should really suggest this to the firefox team.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product =Firefox&format=guided
You can enter the feature in bugzilla as a "Wishlist" item. You never know they too might think this is a great idea.
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slashdot blocked
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2441
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if anyone wants to copy paste it. I'm voting for it.
Anyone know why the slahsdot referer is blocked? -
Re:Most of these are flash...
Most of these sounds come from Flash objects. You can block Flash with FlashBlock. It puts a play button where the Flash object is.
Of course, then, you either get no flash, or when you explicitly play the flash, you still get blasted away.
I asked about this ages (I think maybe even two years ago) for Mozilla. There's even a bug filed for it [and, OMB, it was filed almost exactly six years ago ]. It's got 53 votes, maybe it needs more: Bug 24418 - Allow user to turn on and off rendering of video/audio (disable sound).
What'd really be nice is a volume control in an easily-accessed space on the browser, so you could, if you want, leave the browser sounds enabled, but at a mix level you're comfortable with. -
Use Firefox with noscript extension
Use Firefox with https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.ph
p ?id=722&application=firefoxnoscript extension.
Noscript will block alle javascript, flash, and media files.
You can then choose which ones to enable.
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Most of these are flash...Most of these sounds come from Flash objects. You can block Flash with FlashBlock. It puts a play button where the Flash object is. As an alternative, I would recommend using NoScript. It allows you to block JavaScript, Flash, Java, and other plugins and then whitelist sites that you go to all of the time. You can enable Flash, Java, and plugins by clicking to play like with FlashBlock. If you are just visiting for a moment then you can temporarily enable for that site just for your browser session. I've found that this fixes all of the sound issues that you are talking about.
only to have some awful noise nearly blow out my speakers from one of their ads, for themselves.
Then install AdBlock and the AdBlock Filterset.G Updater. Ads that play sounds are yet another reason in a long list why I block ads myself. Some people don't agree with blocking ads. Well, make up your own mind on what to do. Personally I take the approach that several bad advertisers ruin it for everyone so I block them all. -
Most of these are flash...Most of these sounds come from Flash objects. You can block Flash with FlashBlock. It puts a play button where the Flash object is. As an alternative, I would recommend using NoScript. It allows you to block JavaScript, Flash, Java, and other plugins and then whitelist sites that you go to all of the time. You can enable Flash, Java, and plugins by clicking to play like with FlashBlock. If you are just visiting for a moment then you can temporarily enable for that site just for your browser session. I've found that this fixes all of the sound issues that you are talking about.
only to have some awful noise nearly blow out my speakers from one of their ads, for themselves.
Then install AdBlock and the AdBlock Filterset.G Updater. Ads that play sounds are yet another reason in a long list why I block ads myself. Some people don't agree with blocking ads. Well, make up your own mind on what to do. Personally I take the approach that several bad advertisers ruin it for everyone so I block them all. -
Most of these are flash...Most of these sounds come from Flash objects. You can block Flash with FlashBlock. It puts a play button where the Flash object is. As an alternative, I would recommend using NoScript. It allows you to block JavaScript, Flash, Java, and other plugins and then whitelist sites that you go to all of the time. You can enable Flash, Java, and plugins by clicking to play like with FlashBlock. If you are just visiting for a moment then you can temporarily enable for that site just for your browser session. I've found that this fixes all of the sound issues that you are talking about.
only to have some awful noise nearly blow out my speakers from one of their ads, for themselves.
Then install AdBlock and the AdBlock Filterset.G Updater. Ads that play sounds are yet another reason in a long list why I block ads myself. Some people don't agree with blocking ads. Well, make up your own mind on what to do. Personally I take the approach that several bad advertisers ruin it for everyone so I block them all. -
Most of these are flash...Most of these sounds come from Flash objects. You can block Flash with FlashBlock. It puts a play button where the Flash object is. As an alternative, I would recommend using NoScript. It allows you to block JavaScript, Flash, Java, and other plugins and then whitelist sites that you go to all of the time. You can enable Flash, Java, and plugins by clicking to play like with FlashBlock. If you are just visiting for a moment then you can temporarily enable for that site just for your browser session. I've found that this fixes all of the sound issues that you are talking about.
only to have some awful noise nearly blow out my speakers from one of their ads, for themselves.
Then install AdBlock and the AdBlock Filterset.G Updater. Ads that play sounds are yet another reason in a long list why I block ads myself. Some people don't agree with blocking ads. Well, make up your own mind on what to do. Personally I take the approach that several bad advertisers ruin it for everyone so I block them all. -
Re:Inline spellchecking needs work
Is Mork to blame for the unscalability? This guy says yes...
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Re:XULRunner to the rescue...
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Re:USENET users: Where's the beef?
Not to mention a bug which has been around since the beginning: why can't messages read in one newsgroup be marked as read in groups to which they are crossposted?
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Re:Maybe not declining, but simply changing
Don't forget to install the Adblock Filterset.G updater.
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Re:Maybe not declining, but simply changing
To me it is like complaining about banner ads. It's just an unavoidable part of the internet ecosystem, like mosquitos.
You know, I don't know about you, but I tend to bring repellant when I go into the jungles we call the internet.
Ad Block
Almost 100% effect and is 100% lethal to banner ads.
Annoyances don't have to be. Well.. If you don't mind the DDT. -
Re:XULRunner to the rescue...from the Global:1.9 Trunk 1.8 Branch Plan:
Firefox 3 will develop on the trunk, which is in 1.9 alpha stage
* The trunk hosts continuously integrated and tested rearchitecture work
o Graphics reimplemented on top of Cairo
o New XUL features and XUL box layout specification/standardization
o Embedding and XUL App API and implementation unification
o Layout "reflow" rearchitecture
o JavaScript1.9 leading to JS2 / ECMA-262 Edition 4.
o Python for XUL
o etc. -- see the Roadmap Scratchpad
Could "Embedding and XUL App API and implementation unification" be the thing? -
That's Nice, but
Does it let me send return-receipts back to the requester without hanging? Bug 321139)
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Still cannot easily install a foreign dictionary.
Still can't sell Thunderbird to friends if I cannot install a french dictionary. The problem has been reported over a year ago. With such a feature missing, I cannot convince friends to jump the band wagon.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26739 0
P.S. I must admit, I have not tried to install the dictionary manually. Maybe this can be done. Still, I feel that the software should be able to do it by itself. -
XULRunner to the rescue...OK, so it's difficult to know how to Google for this one without knowing its name first, but it might be XULRunner that you're ranting about w.r.t. a single runtime engine to fire up apps like Firefox etc.
I believe this is indeed the replacement name for what used to be known as "GRE" (Gecko Runtime Environment) and can be used for *any* XUL-based application, not just stuff coming out of the Moz development team. What's not clear to me yet is exactly when this will be complete enough to be used by Firefox etc. - maybe for 2.0, maybe not.
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Re:wow
You mean something like SeaMonkey?
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Re:But does it have...
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Actually, not Seamonkey
What you really want is Lightning. Unfortunately, they appear to have missed their December 2005 target release date for v0.1
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Re:But does it have...
The Lightning project is Thunderbird with calendaring built-in.
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If you prefer integration....
If you like an integrated suite, be sure to give SeaMonkey a try. It's got pretty much the same features as Thunderbird 1.5, but also includes a browser and more.
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Thank God for 1337
Then you're going to hate this Firefox extension.
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Re:Patch is out there. YES, install FireFox
http://www.mozilla.org/firefox
http://www.mozilla.com/products/
http://www.opera.com/download/
http://www.opera.com/
http://www.theopencd.org/ Download the 650MB ISO image file and burn to CD share with your friends who have less bandwidth to the internet to install FireFox broswer and Thunderbird e-mail client on their Windows PC.
Make a WMF virus variant that pops open the http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/ website to give the user an opportunity to click "Install FireFox" for windows. Hey I did not force him to install anything, but just pointed it out.
Remember, Its the thought that counts! I was just making it easier for the end user to use his or her computer Virus free.
Fred
to fix this problem http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin /MS06-001.mspx -
Re:Ummmmmmm.....?
At first I thought it might be that they all have wikis:
http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox:Home_Page
But I couldn't find one for XVid.
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Re:SOLUTION
And take advertising from companies offering browser plugins that automatically turn URLs back to links.
Not the one I used to use (which also "cleaned" links that included redirects), the name of which I've forgotten, but the Linkification Firefox extension does exactly what you want. URL-like text on a page automagically turns into a link.
Which only leaves one question - Will "they" try to ban Firefox, or just anything containing the magic word "http"? -
Re:RTFA
Yeah, probably your are right. Although there is at least one wiki I know of (http://developer.mozilla.org/) this is not specifically firefox related. They just wanted to jump on the hype wagon and don't miss firefox on their list, I guess.
Their arguments sound a bit like, "we included it since this is the tool you can view websites with and use the editing facilities provided by the wikis and alike." -
Re:Why I Distrust Cookies
"Permit Cookies" is your friend : https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.ph
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Re:Can't they stick with a name?
They should do what developers for Mozilla did and create an extension called YahooSomething. I'm looking forward to using Yahoo! Thunderfoxfabulator.
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Re:Amazing
IP theft from mozilla bugzilla server? poke
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Re:must be more zero tolerance
Why didn't he just install this...
https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php ?id=115&application=firefox -
Re:Paper doesn't mention open source model
I think Linux, Firefox and Openoffice are great, and having a lot of eyes look upon source code may make all bugs shallow, but it still leaves finding bugs to chance rather than systematically preventing them.
These people produce code with defect rates better than CMM level 5 (most companies aren't even at CMM level 2). Firefox, OpenOffice and Linux aren't anywhere near zero-defects. -
Re:and millions of /.'ers groan...
Sorry, but I'd rather stick with something like this. It's the difference between swapping the rendering engine temporarily when required (eg. Windows Update) a shoehorning a massive security hole into Firefox. Your call
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Re:but can it translate...
...from the truly foreign languages of SMS, TXT, or 1337? RUOK? TTYL!For the Firefox users:
https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php ?id=770