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Yahoo Launches Dashboard
An anonymous reader writes "Engadget has a 'live' post from a Yahoo press conference this morning showing something called Yahoo Dashboard. It looks awwwfully familiar. They brought out Ellen DeGeneres to demo it, and Tom Cruise to show an MI: 3 trailer for some reason." From the article: "I would like to announce right now what we call Yahoo Go. If you have some of the same problems dealing with things as Ellen .... Yahoo Go ... is a revolutionary way to connect users to Web services they already use. We're installing new applications right on devices (pix of laptop, TV, phone)." Dashboard is the relaunch of Konfabulator. We reported on Yahoo!'s purchase of Konfabulator last year.
I'm not sure if the submitter is insinuating that Yahoo "Dashboard" looks suspiciously familiar to Apple's Dashboard on Mac OS X 10.4.x (Tiger), but we should be reminded that Yahoo Go/Yahoo Dashboard is in fact Yahoo! Widget Engine, which is in fact Konfabulator renamed.
;-)
And Konfabulator, by Arlo Rose (of Kaleidoscope fame) and Perry Clarke, was around on the Mac OS X platform first, until a Windows version was also released with the help of Ed Voas before Yahoo!'s purchase. In fact, if it weren't for the Windows version, Yahoo! may never have come knocking.
And it's easy to say that Apple ripped off Konfabulator to make Dashboard, but if we go back a step further...say, a couple of decades, we find that the idea of Konfabulator - little modeless applets that do useful things, like an address book or a notepad or a calculator or a little game - actually hearkens back to Apple's original idea of Desk Accessories.
It all comes full circle!
No, wait. That's not full circle. It all leads back to Apple.
yeah umm.. hasnt dashboard been out for a few weeks now? I have been running it.
Isn't apple's dashboard similiar to Konfabulator (sp?) and this is that program called dashboard?
It was Konfabulator 3 months ago, then it was Yahoo! Widgets, and now it is Yahoo! Dashboard? Are they trying to confuse people? I wonder if they'll have problems with Apple for using "Dahsboard".
today is spelling optional day.
Another opportunity for real people to be use OSS! That's great! Real people would never have used something called "Konfabulator" with no marketing, anyway. Yahoo has the muscle to put this on a lot of desktops.
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Did Apple forget to copyright "Dashboard?"
Interesting naming choice seeing as Apples widget program has been called Dashboard for a while.
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I already downloaded the Yahoo! Widget Engine. Why do I need Ellen Degeneres and Tom Cruise?
Does anyone else foresee Apple legal having a field day with the name "Yahoo! Dashboard"? If Dashboard is a trademark, as I would assume Apple legal would have assured, then how can Yahoo! get away with naming their equivalent service the exact same thing? It would be like Apple coming out with a web search called "Apple Yahoo!".
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i don't know about you, but i hate that they re-branded Konfabulator as the Yahoo Widget Enginer. Another case of innovation-by-purchase. Now I wonder if the dashboard will give you a free stress test...
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Steve's gonna be pissed!
I'm conditioned to hit Windows-D to drop back to my desktop when I need to get back to my desktop. Unfortunately, this simple and practical key combination also hides the widgets from my view, making them much less useful.
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Well, that covers the lesbian and gay community. No representation for us straight folks?
Dashboard steels the look of Konfabulator, itself a stolen idea. Yahoo buys Konfabulator and steals the name of Dashboard. Whatever next?
So we have a /. story about how Yahoo! renamed Konfabulator? Really, is this worth a post? This is Digg quality frontpage stuff, not /.
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Yeah, I've also had major problems with fundamentalist organizations nationwide lambasting me as an evil influence on the culture after I came out on national television as a lesbian.
With spending like this, exactly what are "conservatives" conserving?
Apple sues Yahoo! for trademark infringement.
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Eh?
First post, bitch!
...but negative style points to Yahoo for trotting out Ellen Degeneres (really not that funny anymore) and Tom Cruise (Scientology poster boy and general nutcase). If these are the kind of people using Yahoo Go, I'll just do without thanks.
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Another pos piece of software my stupid users will be loading on thier desktops.
And no, they won't let me stop people from loading software........ arghhhhhhhh.....
Konfabulator... worst name ever? Not that it matters anymore.
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Who is the villain? Yahoo for releasing Konfabulator and being like Apple? Apple for cloning Konfabulator in the first place?
Maybe we can just all agree to beat up the first Apple user that suggests Konfabulator and Dashboard are derivatives of MacOS's Desk Accessories.
Apple is just going to love this. The should have just called it iDashboard to avoid the whole apple litigation this is sure to provoke.
I'm sure this is how the show went:
Cruise> Ellen, Ellen, I've never agreed with Yahoo, ever. Before I was a Scientologist I never agreed with Yahoo. And when i started studying the history of psychiatry, I understood more and more why I didn't believe in Yahoo.
Ellen> But Tom..
Cruise> Ellen, Ellen. As far as the Dashboard thing is, look. You gotta understand, I really care about the Dashboard. I-- I think here's a-- a-- a wonderful and talented piece of software. And-- I wanna see it do well. And I know that-- Yahoo -- is a pseudo science. I KNOW THE HISTORY OF YAHOO! YOU DON'T!
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*Another* "tool" my users can install to attract virii and spyware!
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Otherwise I haven't been able to find another good application - that fits my needs - that I'm willing to give up RAM to.
All of these dashboard ideas seem like a solution looking for a good idea - and from personal experience and talking to friends that idea hasn't really been found just yet.
If you have some of the same problems dealing with things as Ellen [snip]
I don't even want to know those problems....
However, after perusing Apple's list of trademarks, I don't see Dashboard. Maybe Apple legal slipped up and forgot to register this one. Still, I can't see anyone over there being happy about this development...
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Ellen DeGeneres is an authoritative source on technology, which is why Yahoo! has lured me into using their dashboard.
Its called Yahoo Go and its derived from Konfabulator. Doesn't Konfabulator pre-date Apple's implementation of their Dashboard?
This rush by Google to snatch companies up to gain entry into new biz areas, and the ripple affect it's having is good for smaller software companies. Well, at least the ones that win the acquisition lotto. Of course it sucks for the other ones that were maybe doing ok, but then someone like Google comes along, buys your competitor and releases their software for free (e.g. Google Earth), leaving your only real chance for survival to be acquired by Yahoo/M$/AOL. Of course all the while they'll be playing the patent lotto, hoping for maybe a dual payday.
I predict that within a couple of weeks, Apple will file a $10 billion lawsuit against Yahoo for copyright, trademark, and patent infringement. Steve Jobs may actually announce this lawsuit in his keynote speech.
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"and Tom Cruise to show an MI: 3 trailer for some reason."
It's probably a good thing there wasn't a couch nearby otherwise we'd see hundreds of clips on the evening news about him jumping up and down on it while exlaiming how much he loves this software.
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10:40 Outside, a guy talking into his phone: "Well Steve Jobs is a fucking Jedi Master of this shit compared to these other clowns."
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So we have a /. story about Yahoo! renaming a product? Is this really even worth posting?
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The only thing revolutionary about it is from the spin the PR people wrote.
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It looks awwwfully familiar.
to what? i couldn't figure it out.
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I fully understood what their new product is, and I must say it looks very cromulent.
...almost as if someone had named an almost identical program "Dashboard". It's a cool concept, and I get a lot of use out of it on my Mac. But I have to wonder if they're going to run afoul of Apple's legal team.
Of course, we all know that Yahoo! would never copy ideas, it's surely just a coincidence.
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OK, so Apple ripped off Konfabulator with OS X Tiger's Dashboard. Now Yahoo (who bought Konfabulator) are ripping off Apple by rebranding it "Yahoo Dashboard". Clever, since Dashboard is waaay more famous a brand than Konfabulator, but Apple can't sue Yahoo for ripping them off since if they did Yahoo would counter-sue on the basis that Apple ripped off Konfabulator.
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I installed konfabulator, and never really "got it"... To those using it daily - what widgets do you use ?
I think the Yahoo! Konfabulator has been on my machine about a month or so...
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What a rip off. It is ashame noone can have an original idea anymore.
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cool
...but negative style points to Yahoo for trotting out Ellen Degeneres (not very funny anymore, just pathetic) and Tom Cruise (Scientology postery boy and all-around nutcase) to promote Yahoo Go. If these are the people who are going to be using it, I'll pass.
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wow first post?
It won't even let me show multiple weather widgets (for different cities) without having to make a separate copy of that widget.
Yahoo! purchased Konfabulator, and Dashboard is the re-launching of it.
Funny, I thought Yahoo Widgets 3.0 was the relaunch of Konfabulator?
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"If you have some of the same problems dealing with things as Ellen..."
What, like being rich, famous and dating Portia de Rossi? Yeah, gosh, all the time.
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Has it gotten any better than back in the day? When I tried it out each module used up way too much memory.
initial message? one may only hope....
When they tried to demo Yahoo Go TV with the music and movie content, the screen showed an error message. "And we know whose software this runs on," Rosensweig quipped.
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they used Ellen who is out of the closet and Tom Cruise who we are all waiting to come out of the closet.
hurray for expanding target audiences!
And Apple hasn't made a trademark complaint?
From tfa:
.. I took a look at her when she got into the car. She had two headsets attached. One was her iPod video, the other was her Creative Zen."
"9:15 "I want to talk about my 13-year-old daughter. I was driving her to school
Does she have four ears?
9:30 "There's spell check, but I think someone should invent a sarcasm check. And a 24-hour outgoing hold on angry emails."
How abut an Ellen DeGeneres check?
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I smell trademark lawsuit!
"is the fucking Jedi Master of this shit" sums it up...
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They brought out Ellen DeGeneres to demo it, and Tom Cruise to show an MI: 3 trailer for some reason.
So it's no surprise that they featured a known heterosexual and known homosexual as announcers.
it's Car 2.0! not only does it drive places like it always did, but we wacked on an Ambient Climate User Interface, and a Personal Music Delivery Interface!
am just being dense, or does web 2.0 mean *anything* to non-marketing people?
Great, Konfabultor was great. I mean first post.
Yahoo! (wisely) isn't calling it "Dashboard". They're calling it Widget Engine.
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I've completely disabled Dashboard on my iBook. I can't see the advantage of it over standard desktop apps - especially given that they each use about 10MB of real RAM. Give me Calculator.app any day. Launches in a single bounce, and has a whole ton more functionality than the widget. Many if not most of the widgets don't take advantage of the ability to write Obj-C code, making them simple Javascript/HTML apps. Those things I'd rather look at in my browser window.
Will this let 3rd party developers access the APIs to implement their own things?
I know I liked when google added widgets.
OT: Why does it seem that Ellen Degeneres is advertising many things nowadays? (Eg: West Wing, AMEX, Yahoo)
I don't get it.
OS X Tiger calls it's Konfabulator clone Dashbord.
So is it called Dashboard or Go?
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Konfabulous!
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Hmm. HTML/JS widgets on the desktop .. called Dashboard.
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Must not be all that exciting after all. Is that why my script image is "deceive"?
...when Apple will announce a new internet-based business called Yahoo!
Except for the name change and the "officialness" of the media circus this is the same story as was posted on December 12. This really isn't news... just a press release.
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Do people really use these widgets, dashboards, etc., especially if they DON'T have dual monitors? I've played around with Konfabulator on my laptop at home, and it just doesn't work well. I don't just stare at and monitor my desktop. If I'm at the computer, I'm working on something, and with a laptop, screen real estate is at a premium. I've played with them at work where I do have dual monitors, and while they are more useful in that setting, I find them a bit distracting, too. It's like I need a completely separate monitor for my widgets, and then another two monitors to do actual work!
Won't Apple come after them for "Dashboard"? I know Apple used the name Widgets, but this is the main thing, not the little apps running inside it.
From TFA, it appears this thing installs a Yahoo! search bar between the speedometer and the idiot lights. Will it display pop-ups while I'm driving? Will it work on my '71 Econoline, or do I need to upgrade to a modern car?
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If you have some of the same problems dealing with things as Ellen"
Let me check. Um nope. And I can dance.
Tom Cruise? "You don't know Yahoo!!!! I KNOW YAHOO!!!"
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the article seems kinda of skimpy on details, so you can find some more information here. It appears that Konfabulator/Yahoo! Widget Engine is just a part of Yahoo Go and Yahoo Dashboard.
yet another demo where the lags and hangups are blamed on MS. Come on now, you should be able to get your software to do what you want it to do when you need to do it, especially if its for a demo of your newest and greatest product.
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A little too late maybe? Keey trying Yahoo!, maybe one day you will come up with an original idea ahead of everyone else.
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"If you have some of the same problems dealing with things as Ellen..."
So many punchlines, so little time...
These just came out (re-released) a few weeks ago. Are they already rebranding it the Yahoo Dashboard?
I'd wanted this/something similar a while back, but Firefox's extensions came to the rescue...and since I never close my browser....hmmm...
I guess we'll see.
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Yeehaw!
Nice, now I don't have to buy a Mac.
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It's been almost 25 minutes since this story came out. Is /. dying?
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I tried to RTFA, but it made absolutely no sense, except the part about correcting pronunciation of some dude's name. I don't know if that's because it's late on a Friday afternoon, or there is really nothing at all to the article or the product launch, but I suspect it's a little from column "A" and a little from column "B." Call me when this stupid konfabulation thingie can make me a fucking ham sammich.
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... and left me behind. Even /. is dead, or at least this article is, given the lack of any posts.
Surely this isn't a terribly obscure page....
http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/dashboard/
Ellen's show sucks :(
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...but I can't for the life of me remember what. Help plz?
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I love the idea of Dashboard/Konfabulator whatever. I only dislike the amount of RAM it takes up.
WTF happened to yahoo widgets? dashboard huh? awfully original name.
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Is there any new functionality here, or is it just a new name?
welcome our new dashboard overlords.
Yonfabulator!
I don't know, this may be just a guess, but I think Yahoo has heard, like the rest of us, that google's gonna release something big today, so they're trying to mash it out and distract us from it.
"No, no, don't look over there, we've got cool stuff over here!"
They're trying to disguise the fact that google, with it's democratic infrastructure, is agile enough to actually come up with new ideas and innovations, while they, with their typical IT "layers of management" infrastructure, couldn't design water out of a boot with instructions on the heel.
It's become pathetically obvious really. They know they're dying out, but the management is unwilling to actually change the way things work and improve the company, so instead they act like a childish five year old. Declaring to themselves that they're right, and they're the good ones, and everything's okay, and acting out to demand attention, pulling stunts like giving themselves awards and making fun of competitors.
And now, on the day on which google is going to rumored to announce something big, and they know it, they pull this stunt out of their pocket, with cries for attention like new buzzwords and names and celebrities. Everything about this screams "Look at us! We're cool and clever and hip and fresh, too!"
And of course, it's a conference to announce a product which they bought out what, a few months ago, which they didn't even work on other than to rename it and reorganize the website. Wow, what news. Definitely deserves a press conference now, months later.
Don't you think that if it was really about releasing this to the world, they would have held this sham of a "press conference" much sooner? Don't you think it's a little too much of a coincidence that they're showing it now, right on the day that they're main competitor which is increasingly sealing their corporate doom, is thought to be planning some kind of announcement?
This seems very impromptu and out of place, with the whole "live" press conference thing.
And it is, because it's obviously just another way Yahoo is jumping up and down and doing anything it can to get the media attention it's so sorely lacked recently. They're bringing out celebrities, they're buying out devices and selling them off as their own, they're doing everything besides actually developing and delivering goods.
Let me give you a hint, Yahoo. Google's success isn't due to it's image as being "hip and cool", it's to their agility and constant activity and improvement which gives them this image and pleases their customers.
Google isn't yielding much in the way of info. Is this part of Konfabulator or what?
Konfabulator is made. It is cool.
Apple copies it, calling it "Dashboard". Konfabulator is pissed.
Konfabulator is purchased by Yahoo, who rename it "Dashboard".
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Hrm. What goes around comes around I suppose...
Where have I heard 'Dashboard' before? Oh! Maybe it's over here.
Sour grapes, Yahoo/Konfab?
first post, once again! amazing!
...while bashing Windows for messing up the demo, they also managed to tick off Mac and Linux users by noting that their video product is only available on Windows.
""And we know whose software this runs on," is one notable quote from the executives on stage.
Well if it's such a crappy OS, why don't you make your spiffy product available to people who choose not to use it?
My first thought when I saw this was "Doesn't Apple have Dashboard trademarked?" Well, after digging through Apple's website, there is no mention of Dashboard being trademarked, but somehow I still foresee legal battling over using the same name for similar products for different platforms.
Is it really that expensive to at least come up with new names when you are copying products? Yes i know they bought Konfabulator which apple ripped off half the concept from. But I guess things are now even if Yahoo ripped off the Dashboard concept. But seriously, how much would it cost to get a branding company to come up with something else to call it?
I am suprised they are calling it Dashboard... Maybe I missed something, but isn't that copyright/tm'ed to apple?
I predict a plethora of pithy pundits posting proclamations of the propriety of this product, pardoned by Apple's previous possible pilfering.
This is my first post ever and maybe an article first post as well.
Apple legal are now looking for a time machine.
This just goes to show that Houhynhynms are better.
sigfault. core dumped.
Or is it just a pretty thing of questionable usability that slows down my computer and/or takes up lots of resources? (Not intended as a flame, btw -- I'd really like to hear some opinions on using it.)
"If you have some of the same problems dealing with things as Ellen" Nothing personal against Ellen but I don't know if ANYONE deals with the same problems Ellen has!
Left with the first post!
Is there anybody out there? Is there anyone at all?
Wow, just think of all the things Ellen can't do. What a great public service from Yahoo!
"If you have some of the same problems dealing with things as Ellen"
:)
I don't have one problem at all with dealing with Ellen
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At the end of the article...
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Ellen and Tom Cruise... reminds me of SonyEricsson in James Bond where the new cell phone controled the new BMW 7. Anybody seeing a pattern here?... and all of that just for the re-launch. It looks like the market Yahoo-Microsoft-Google Internet market is getting even tighter. Who will prevail among this giants? Anyway, this year should be entertaining seeing that the first strike has been launched.
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it was called yahoo widget engine for a long time ,although osx dashboard works better
At least when Microsoft steals an idea from Apple, they have the decency to change the name.
Sheesh.
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I think i've seen this before...meditate on this I will (and /.'s posting is acting screwy...hmm)
Do the hoodackys that come with Dashboard (or Konfab... whatevers) have any REAL use? Is monitoring hard-drive space that important?
Why would anyone put the epitomy of lesbianism on show for a product launch? The rapid rate of morale decay in our society is alarming.
They're not just calling it Dashboard, they're also ripping off Apple's rounded search fields and magnifying glass.
Konfabulator 2.1 works great for me, and I don't have to opt out of installing a million Yahoo add-ons with Dashboard.
// no
This is old news. Yahoo! bought Konfabulator about 3 months ago and just slapped their name on it.
why would she of all people demo it? we are computer geek's i'd like to see somebody really really hot demo it. preferablly naked.
"we know who's software we're using."
.... yours?
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I guess a Yahoo PR guy wanted a date with an Apple lawyer chick.
This story has been up for like 10 minutes without any comments
I can see a letter from Apple arriving at Yahoo HQ soon.
In Engadget's comment section, I followed the links to this 238 MB downloadable MP4 video file. Hopefully, it has the MI3 trailer (different from teaser trailer?). :)
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1. Independant developer writes Konfabulator for Mac
2. Apple copies developer's project, calls it Dashboard
3. Original developer releases Konfabulator for Windows
4. Yahoo buys Konfabulator
5. Yahoo renames project Yahoo Widgets
6. Yahoo renames project Dashboard, copying Apple
Now all they need to do is merge them into the same product, since they do exactly the same thing, have the same name, but have incompatible widgets.
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Half hour later and not one comment.
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I think Apple may get a little upset about that infringement. What's next? They start calling their widgets gadgets? Let's all copy each other instead of being original.
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And if the story submitter had typed "http://go.yahoo.com" into their address bar, they would have known this, too.
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Well there was a reason Apple didn't buy Konfabulator, it's bloated and heavy. I guess the windows world gets something at least. Anyway does anyone really find the dashboard all that useful, it seems mostly like an overglorified way to get the weather. First Post!
Even Ellen is trying to get Tom Cruise to come out of the closet.
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...Apple annouces a lawsuit against Yahoo! Inc. for using the trademark "Dashboard". Yahoo! representatives were unavailable to comment on their pathetic choice in naming.
Google Base, Google Videos, Google + AOL! Oh no! Yahoo has to try to get into the media content production and distribution game before Google eats its lunch.
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What goes around, comes around?
When Stephen Job announced his "I-Minor" McIntosh last year, it really caught my eye. Wanting to buy or build a small computer for my already cramped breakfast bar, I started pricing out similar hardware. The results startled me. Most of the configurations I found cost more than the humble US$499 of the "I-Minor", often much more. To match price with MAC I had to configure with a much bigger shuttle-style case.
So here's my question. What computers are currently on the market to compete with this? When my wife asks for the "cute little I-Minor McIntosh with dotMax Tigger OS® that MAC just invented", what PC can I buy instead?
I RTFA, and I still have no idea what Yahoo Dashboard is, what it will do for me, or even what it looks like (apart from a crappy pic.)
On the plus side, I did learn Tom Cruise separated six of his ribs while filming his latest explosion/car chase movie, and that there was a porn convention nextdoor to the place they were having the Dashboard presentation.
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The widgets have exactly the same style as the ones in Apple's Dashboard... and it is called Yahoo Dashboard!? Surely this is illegal, illegal, and illegal.
I guess content really is king...
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I've got a mac, I used Konfabulator on that for a week. Then apple came out with Tiger and I used their Dashboard for about a week. Then I tried Yahoo! and their Dashboard. I used them all for about a week... but essentially it is all eyecandy with minimal functionalty. There is no time savings. I have weather in the bottom right of my mozilla firefox window and any other stock info or whatever, I can pull up in 10 seconds with my bookmarks. Dashboard and the like are a waste of CPU cycles with little value beyond that.
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Yahoo dashboard a scientoligist and lesbian. hmmm what are they trying to say.. mission impossible!
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...this really news? It' been out a while and Yahoo! bought Konfabulator sometime ago as was reported on here.
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wow. i spoiled it.
are useless. I tried Konfabulator, but found it so pointless I uninstalled.
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can i post?
So even Yahoo! is producing dupes like Slashdot now?
Why would they name it after a cheap foreign car?
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This story has been available for awhile, yet there are no comments. BILL FRIST (suxs)
It's great to see innovative third-party Windows developers continue to innovate and offer Windows users an innovatively rich experience.
Personally, I don't think I care much about Yahoo!'s newfangled service. Looks like just more "content pushing" technology which failed back in '99.
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They had the balls to name it DASHBOARD.
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Both Tom Cruise and Ellen DeGeneres for the roll out .... now I can't help but be intrigued.
.com, a boring lesbian, and a scientologist don't really offer up much interest to me.
Oh wait, no I can. None of the words Yahoo, DeGeneres, or Cruise make me interested in anything being said.
*sigh* Maybe I'm just old and crotchety, but a (to me) irrelevant
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Other than Yahoo execs? I'm a Mac user, and while I thought Dashboard was pretty kewl at first, my enthusiasm quicky waned. Now I've disabled it. Most of the funchtionality of it was already available on various web pages, and I can close the browser down and reclaim resources. With Dashboard, those widgets are consuming memory and other resources even when Dashboard isn't showing. Will Yahoo's version act the same way? Maybe a Konfabulator user can weigh in on this.
Mod this down as a troll, but I just can't care about Yahoo's version of Apple's version of Konfabulator. Big waste of resources.
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Seriously, I think this speaks highly of WINE, which is surely not the submitters intention. As far as implementing WMF and not realizing the exploitability, well, I'm not too sure what to make of that. Seems like a troll, but perhaps the comment has some merit. Thoughts?
I'd be surprised if Apple didn't trademark the name. What's the dealie?
After all, I am strangely colored.
Woot!
I am glad that Ellen was able to make everyone feel good about being next to a Pr0n convention. Personally, at 9:00 am I wish I would have been there.
I've been using this... for like a couple weeks.
/. and weather plugins are very nice.
The
is this thing on?
They already renamed this "Yahoo! Widget Engine" which is a dumb name. They should have kept it as "Konfabulator." Yahoo! always renames its acquisitions with stupid names, unlike Google which respects the innovative companies it acquires.
Yahoo! Dashboard is a rip-off of Desk Accessories, which debuted in 1984 on the original Macintosh.
Yahoo! Dashboard contains spyware and adware and should not be downloaded.
If you must run Windows, you should use Google Desktop 2 which supports an innovative sidebar. Google Desktop 3 will support widgets.
On Linux, KDE will support Dashboard widgets. I saw it reported as such on Slashdot.
Please do not support Yahoo! as they are evil. Please support Google, Apple, and KDE.
Why plug a new product on /. and not provide a link to the actual product?
Yahoo Go site with download
First Post?
It'll probably have too much advertizing. I can't stand opening Yahoo's messenger or their email anymore because the big fat pictures that I have to look away from...
...I would have noticed that the video of the keynote is on the yahoo "podcast" page.
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How did it end up here?
I'm more shocked that someone's actually putting out Mission: Impossible 3
That "dashboard" comment came from the Engadget blogger hastily trying to describe Yahoo Widgets. Read the comments and the editor's note, and you'll see that it's good old Konfabulator, now with 45% more Corporate Branding.
Nothing to see here. Please move along.
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This will make it that much harder to direct them to Go under the board games section of Yahoo Games.
http://widgets.yahoo.com/
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Most of it is "coming soon", but there's a signup to be notified when it is available. And of course the Konfabulator (sorry, Yahoo! Widgets) stuff is available right now.
Who said it was called Dashboard? Besides the misleading headline of this article...
Engadget implied it was a Yahoo Dashboard, which of course it looks like, because it is the Yahoo! Widget Engine 'Heads-Up Display' (http://widgets.yahoo.com/), which is the re-branded Konfabulator 'Konspose Mode' (Yahoo! bought Konfabulator last year), which is what 'inspired' Apple to make the 'Dashboard' in the first place.
Is this really going to be called 'Yahoo! Go' when 'Yahoo! Widgets' move to cell phones, as Endgadget states? People should be more careful with brand/product names...
I never noticed trademark infringement lawsuits smell like boiled peanuts until now.
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I've tried. I've really, really tried to like dashboards, widgets, push info, whatever. You see, the thing is, there is only so much stuff I want to know on a CONSTANT basis. Clocks are nice, but guess what, THERE'S ALREADY A CLOCK ON MY COMUPUTER. Oh, well the widget clock looks analog? Well, that just justifies everying.
Weather? I'm inside! I'll check the weather when I leave. Stock reports? I'm not a day trader. The bubble burst. Remember? CPU, memory usage? Ok, I'm a geek, but not that much of a geek.
When I need to find something out, I'll look it up. Thanks anyway.
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Quoth the article: "If you have some of the same problems dealing with things as Ellen ...."
Does that mean it helps you come to terms with the public reaction to your homosexuality? For widget's, I'm impressed!
I guess "social software" really has arrived.
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If you hit the F8 key, it will bring up the "Heads Up Display"), showing you all your Widgets. If you hit Win+D, it will show you your desktop (which is sort of what Win+D is supposed to do). If you would rather use a Windows combination to see your desktop AND your Widgets, then hit Win+M, which will minimize all windows.
I bought Konfabulator about a year back - and now it's free.. Yay? I'm also not exactly pleased with having to say no to a bunch of yahoo products when installing a product that I have paid money for.
It is not the CES one. :(
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Is this the same teaser trailer or a new one? Is there a video of this (cammed?)? :)
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Hasn't konfabulator been out for ages already...
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Someone should have given Tom a couch... sorry I couldn't help myself.
Alex Trebek: And let's see what Tom Cruise put down for his Final Jeopardy response.
He wrote "Yahoo Go". "Yahoo Go". And his bid?
"For It." "Yahoo Go For It." Wonderful.
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Dashboard steels the look of Konfabulator, itself a stolen idea. Yahoo buys Konfabulator and steals the name of Dashboard. What ever next?
I think they want to save money on Tech Support by having fewer Red State customers. Clinton (either) would have been better, but they probably charge too much for product endorsements.
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You do understand that most jokes have punchlines or some other kind of "joke like" element, don't you? You can't just mention something that happened and call it a day. I sentence you to two months of recycling cliches before you go out on your own again.
Widgets are hardly going to be created or modified by average users either. Average users don't know JavaScript.
Widgets are basically desk accessories written in JavaScript instead of Pascal, with your UI laid out web style rather than using ResEdit. In some ways, they're a step backwards, at least until Apple provides a graphical tool for creating them.
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The name Dashboard has been used for similar products before. There was an app called Dashboard created by HP that dates back at least to the early 90's. It was sold to Borland, and later sold to Starfish, and I think may have been distributed with PC Tools for Windows (for Win 3.1) by Central Point. From what I remember about it, and what I've read about Apple's and Yahoo's apps, they sound similar.
I'm not too familiar with Apple, so I don't know if they made anything similar to this prior to HP, but I think at this point the trademark point would be moot.
Her dress sense is well, very crap.
There are other lesbians who can dress sexy/nice or even stylishly, no need to look like a 12yo.
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http://widgets.yahoo.com/gallery/index.php?search= google&x=0&y=0
There ain't no rules here; we're trying to accomplish something.
Dude, you cannot afford a 1gig stick for you pc for $50?
Liberty freedom are no1, not dicks in suits.
Looks like too many people are using the xbox media centre, or saw em
at a friends home. They get one, they love it, and see, WOW this is cool.
Lets copy it and make millions.
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... if you have some of the same problems dealing with things as Ellen
... like the opposite sex, for example. Seriously though, in spite of Yahoo's size and weight, it sure seems like they're a little bit desperate in the face of Google. Of course, that seems to apply to just about every company connected to the Internet nowadays.
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The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
The idea that the creators of Konfabulator were thinking of Desk Accessories is extremly far fetched. Desk accessories was a bundle of mini desktop apps that were not network enabled. I guess any application than bundled 2 or more apps is a derivative of Desk Accessories?
If anything, I would think that Pointcast and RSS would be the inspiration for Konfabulator, but according to wikipedia:
the idea of Konfabulator originated in 1998 when Arlo Rose saw how he could skin the MP3 media player running on his computer. His idea was to "skin any information you wanted to see on your desktop", to quote the comic strip.
Prior to this, he had experience with Kaleidoscope, a skinning program for the Apple Macintosh operating systems, akin to WindowBlinds. He coined the term "Konfabulator" to describe his idea, and then tried pitching his idea to other software programmers. He was unsuccessful until the year 2002, when Perry Clarke (who could later become one of the core developers of Konfabulator) heard about his idea and agreed to work with him on the project.
In Soviet Russia, cliches recycle you.
I run Panther, not Tiger, so I don't have OS X Dashboard yet. Can I run Yahoo's Dashboard? How do I get it... what's the URL?
That that is is that that that that is not is not.
I prefer these names instead...
I was a Nokia 7650 user and while watching Symbian community sites, I have seen rumors about series of Symbian applications coming from Yahoo soon. (a year ago or so)
:)
If they managed to do the widget stuff and if they managed to code in J2ME too, it will be a big hit.
BTW, goodly coded J2ME programs are really portable
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How about some comments on the technology instead of so many on the name and the celebrities?
Is AJAX behind it? Why not a linux version? (Yahoo podcasts work pretty well on Linux.) How long before Google copies, uh, re-innovates the tech?
Almost forgot: obligitory Slashdot missspelling.
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Sure the concept of desk accessories seems obvious now, but how do you figure that credit can't be given? The idea had to start SOMEWHERE. Near as I can tell, the idea came from Bud Tribble at Apple in 1981. Somehow, I don't think the concept was nearly as obvious 25 years ago as it is now.
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Well, Tom Cruise surely didn't go without his beloved Katie Holmes, so that should cover most of the straight crowd.
Ok, Ellen will be smiling and dancing and Tom will be jumping on the couch, and if it's a derivative of an Apple product it'll either be Insanely Great or a doesn't-get-the-concept unpolished imitation, but WTF does Dashboard/Konfabulator/etc. DO? The names *aren't* giving any information, and since the article was presumably intended for those of us who *didn't* see Ellen do the demo, could somebody say what it DOES?
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No, that covers the lesbians and the batshit fucking insane crowds.
This is a joke. I am joking. Joke joke joke.
"Dashboard" was the name of the Gnome desktop search engine. Then Konfabulator came out. Then Apple took the Konfabulator idea and the Gnome name and came out with their own "Dashboard". Now, Yahoo! has re-released Konfabulator under the Dashboard name. Frankly, I hope Yahoo! sticks it to Apple in this case--Apple's handling of Dashboard was arrogant and annoying.
so you go to the Yahoo portal page and there is no mention of widgets or Konfab or Dashboard
in fact, if you search for "yahoo dashboard" via the Yahoo search engine the first hit is the Apple website!
The hottest ones are usually the bisexuals...
One of the most exasperatingly gorgeous women I have ever seen was a bisexual girl in a relationship with a lesbo who frankly looked more butch than most Hells Angel's. *shrug*
I was happily engaged (to a friggin' ballet dancing model) but wouldn't have minded a little private time with the girl.
sometimes i download stuff to my desktop and have todo a quick Win-M to start it - but these are really the only moments a day i see the background of my desktop. so what use is these dashboard/konfawhatever for me?
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