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This is even without considering the R.E.V.O.L.U.R.I.O.N.A.R.Y theme for the buttons ripped^H^H^H^H^H^H inspired on KDE Crystal theme...

Take a close look to the back and forward arrows in Longhorn, that are EXACTLY the same as the KDE Crystal (take a look on the comparison)

KDE Crystal SVG look :
http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?previe w=2&id=8341&file1=8341-1.jpg&file2=8341-2.jpg&file 3=8341-3.jpg&name=Crystal+SVG&PHPSESSID=b09161c27e 4dc69f957fca2b9ef44a81
Also the replicant Plastikfox for firefox
https://addons.mozilla.org/themes/moreinfo.php?id= 213
and finally, the Longhorn long awaited innovative arrows:
http://www.jcxp.net/lh_5203_shots/shots/lh11.jpg
Will MS release their skin under some OS license???

I've just started learning XUL and I'm already wishing that IE supported it. It seems like a fabulous way to build applications. I'm working on a calendar app for my religious community, and although xhtml, css and javascript are mostly good enough, I'm moving it over to XUL because it's better and because I can get access to system resources. I understand the security implications of this, but for my application, there are security implications in the other direction: I don't want community information that might be confidential put on a web server that could possibly be compromised. Instead, the web server will serve the application code, and the calendaring details will be stored locally. (the software is for producing printed calendars, not shared online calendars)

NTLM has been supported since 2003.

http://www.mozilla.org/projects/netlib/integrated- auth.html

I looked so you don't have to:

http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there. is.only.xul

Let me add to that. I keep track at the following sites:

http://rssnewsapps.ziffdavis.com/tech.xml

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin /secrss.aspx

http://www.mozilla.org/news.rdf

http://feeds.dshield.org/news.xml

http://www.sans.org/newsletters/newsbites/rss/

http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/infofeed/tenalerts .xml

You can get the OPML of my feed list at http://www.shokk.com/opml.opml

Seriously, this might not be wind surfing fun, but people might like it. I gave a firefox demo a year ago for our small office. They got to see the major features like tabbed browsing, pop up blocking, and javascript controls. They got to see a few different extensions like one of the translators and one of the adblockers. They also got a little of the history of the browser from it's origins with Netscape to the modern day. Anyways, most people seemed to like it and about half the office uses firefox today.

If you want to introduce the concepts of open source software, few people are going to care even if you find a fun game in which to convey those concepts. However, if you demo something like firefox, you can sneak in some tidbits about open source while giving people something they can actually use and appreciate. The presentation/demo wouldn't necessarily be "fun" in the short term, but the outcome, converting to firefox, would be quite pleasant.

If you absolutely must have fun, there are some game extensions like pong, but it seems somewhat counter productive to focus on non-professional features when trying to encourage work place adoption. Pong Extension

So who has the cahones to develop a standards-compliant web browser for this gui?

Who has the cojones to develop a standards-compliant web browser full stop? Gecko ain't compliant and never will be. Same goes for every other browser.

I've been poking around for a viable web-surfing configuration for an 8mb pentium-1 system, and there really is nothing out there.

Try an older Slackware.

The development builds supports SVG already. There has been basically a broken implementation around for a while, but they rewrote the SVG back-end for Mozilla 1.5. Link here.

SVG in Mozilla should really rock when they get Cairo implemented! Its Mozilla's bridge to OpenGL 2D acceleration.

One of the goals of Perl 6 is to make non-trivial projects possible. That's good. The way it's being done is bad. Perl was once a lightweight, extremely flexible language. Now it's become a huge ugly monster. People wanted OO, so a nasty hack was bolted on top to allow some semblance of it. Now this nasty hack is being expanded. Sure, the code's different, but the basic form is the same. Kludge upon kludge upon kludge; I'd much rather have a nice, clean, pure language (and not one with loads of irritating whitespace thank you very much).

The same goes for the syntax. All the switching between $, @ and % is really irritating (ask a newbie how to get at the length of the keys array of a hash inside a hash, for example), and the changes proposed for 6 are just making this worse -- it seems that Larry, in his infinite wisdom, wants to prefix every data type with a different hard-to-type character. Perl was only designed for the three data types, and adding more is a mess.

Perl 6 is a complete rewrite, but it keeps all the mess which has accumulated over the previous versions. This is not good. Sure, my const int $var = 27; may look neat (in the same way that, say, Pascal does), but $var isn't entirely constant, or entirely an integer, it's just a hack which makes it sort of behave like one. The whole thing is an exercise in pseudo-computer science masturbation with little real purpose except to please the managers who dislike the one thing that makes Perl special.

On a similar note is regexes. I'm an avid fan of regular expressions simply because a nondeterministic finite automata is far more flexible than linear code. However, Larry must have been smoking that cheap $2 crack when he wrote this. Does he want Perl 6 to be flex or something?

I won't be going on to use 6. It's a nice idea, but it's completely unnecessary. It won't make large projects any easier to manage (the language is still, at heart, an almighty hack -- an impressive one, but still a hack). It won't make OO any cleaner. It won't make development any faster. To put it bluntly, Perl scripts will still look less beautiful than our friend Mr Goat.cx. I'd prefer to use a language which has always been pure synthesis of science and engineering, not some half-baked imposter.

Perl 6 will be nice, but I'm guessing it will be the end of Perl. It can't do what it wants to do whilst still being based upon a nasty mess. There are now other options, which provide all of Perl's power and none of the mess. Sorry, but *BSD^H^H^H^H Perl is dying. Larry is buggering it up the ass without lubricants, just like Shoeboy is doing to Larry's daughter.

The computer inferface to the Stargate at the SGC could run Linux.

Whatever it is, it's capable of running Netscape 4.

whats an advert ?

I agree 100%. MSI packages are the standard for corporate deployment, and Firefox needs one asap.

Fortunately, it looks like they have realized this. I searched the mozilla site for MSI, and found lots of files - including the new (nightly) Firefox MSI packages for Deer Park Alpha :-). See http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/What's_New_in _Deer_Park_Alpha, under Deployment. Awsome!

Just to set an example, I hope they use WiX to build the MSI. WiX uses an XML script to build MSI files ; it's an awsome tool for advanced users (and suitable for build scripts). It was made open source by ... Microsoft :).

My Firefox looks great in Linux. I personally use the Noia icons theme in KDE, so using the Noia theme for Firefox integrates with the rest of the OS quite well. I also name the bookmarks in my toolbar folder to the character ' ' so all I get are the icons, almost like a browser quick-launch. It's very aesthetically pleasing as well as more efficient with the space. Unfortunately, I don't have good hosting for the snapshot so you'll just have to take my word for it.
Mozilla has the official snapshot of the theme though: https://addons.mozilla.org/themes/moreinfo.php?app lication=firefox&id=72&page=previews

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55181 and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26018 6 seem to talk about the issue. (note Bugzilla doesn't permit slashdot links, so either copy-and-paste or open-link-in-new-window.)

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55181 and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26018 6 seem to talk about the issue. (note Bugzilla doesn't permit slashdot links, so either copy-and-paste or open-link-in-new-window.)

Without the trailing slash, Apache might redirect so the browser knows that it is in a directory (making relative links work).

If http://www.mozilla.org/projects didn't redirect you to http://www.mozilla.org/projects/ , the relative links would not work as the link "seamonkey/" would link you to http://www.mozilla.org/seamonkey/ (doesn't work) instead of http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/ (which works). So, the redirect itself is fine.

The problem, however, is that Apache has to redirect with a full URL, including host name. A detault Apache uses its own ServerName (which might be some wacky, irrelevant name) instead of the name that the client requested in the Host header. This could make http://www.your-site.com/images redirect to http://mybrandnewcomputer/images/ which might not be desired.

This behaviour can be changed by setting UseCanonicalName to Off instead of (the default) On. That might solve your problem.

I personally think that UseCanonicalName should be Off per default since it mainly causes confusion otherwise (and a user has to know about HTTP and/or logic for redirection and the process of constructing an URL for debugging this problem).

Without the trailing slash, Apache might redirect so the browser knows that it is in a directory (making relative links work).

If http://www.mozilla.org/projects didn't redirect you to http://www.mozilla.org/projects/ , the relative links would not work as the link "seamonkey/" would link you to http://www.mozilla.org/seamonkey/ (doesn't work) instead of http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/ (which works). So, the redirect itself is fine.

The problem, however, is that Apache has to redirect with a full URL, including host name. A detault Apache uses its own ServerName (which might be some wacky, irrelevant name) instead of the name that the client requested in the Host header. This could make http://www.your-site.com/images redirect to http://mybrandnewcomputer/images/ which might not be desired.

This behaviour can be changed by setting UseCanonicalName to Off instead of (the default) On. That might solve your problem.

I personally think that UseCanonicalName should be Off per default since it mainly causes confusion otherwise (and a user has to know about HTTP and/or logic for redirection and the process of constructing an URL for debugging this problem).

Without the trailing slash, Apache might redirect so the browser knows that it is in a directory (making relative links work).

If http://www.mozilla.org/projects didn't redirect you to http://www.mozilla.org/projects/ , the relative links would not work as the link "seamonkey/" would link you to http://www.mozilla.org/seamonkey/ (doesn't work) instead of http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/ (which works). So, the redirect itself is fine.

The problem, however, is that Apache has to redirect with a full URL, including host name. A detault Apache uses its own ServerName (which might be some wacky, irrelevant name) instead of the name that the client requested in the Host header. This could make http://www.your-site.com/images redirect to http://mybrandnewcomputer/images/ which might not be desired.

This behaviour can be changed by setting UseCanonicalName to Off instead of (the default) On. That might solve your problem.

I personally think that UseCanonicalName should be Off per default since it mainly causes confusion otherwise (and a user has to know about HTTP and/or logic for redirection and the process of constructing an URL for debugging this problem).

Without the trailing slash, Apache might redirect so the browser knows that it is in a directory (making relative links work).

If http://www.mozilla.org/projects didn't redirect you to http://www.mozilla.org/projects/ , the relative links would not work as the link "seamonkey/" would link you to http://www.mozilla.org/seamonkey/ (doesn't work) instead of http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/ (which works). So, the redirect itself is fine.

The problem, however, is that Apache has to redirect with a full URL, including host name. A detault Apache uses its own ServerName (which might be some wacky, irrelevant name) instead of the name that the client requested in the Host header. This could make http://www.your-site.com/images redirect to http://mybrandnewcomputer/images/ which might not be desired.

This behaviour can be changed by setting UseCanonicalName to Off instead of (the default) On. That might solve your problem.

I personally think that UseCanonicalName should be Off per default since it mainly causes confusion otherwise (and a user has to know about HTTP and/or logic for redirection and the process of constructing an URL for debugging this problem).

Well, until they feel like adding a PDF warning, you should get the PDF Download extension for firefox. It's small, simple, and prevents PDF ambushes from raping your system's resources.

When you click on a pdf it displays a choice of opening it in a new tab, downloading it , or viewing it as HTML (which i think uses google, but i could be wrong because i never use this option)
It really saved me.

Well, Mozilla is in fact one of those that aren't releaseing details of the patch even after the patch is released.

http://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/mfsa2005- 56.html

Bug details embargoed until August 1, 2005

This, mind you is after the bug details were embargoed until July 20th. They keep moving the date back and will likely do it again when August 1st rolls around.

Sunfire? Perhaps you mean Sunbird?

If they're pushing the release or upgrading the version number, it would be nice to have more minor UI bugs squashed. Adding features is great, but some of these glitches make the program look amature and have been around an embarassingly long time.

Here's one of my favorites:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76828

(you'll need to cut'n paste and remove the space since bugzilla doesn't like slashdot links)

Arrows always showing on a long bookmarks menu, even when you at the top or bottom of the list. ... for over four years!

They also plan a branding exercise. So "Firefox 2.0" will also be called "Mozilla Firefox 2".

So we have three confusing and only weakly linked naming schemes. All this for a browser? Come on, folks, this is a browser, not rocket science. Will there be any significant new features? "Improvements to bookmarks and history", one of four goals stated at the end of the aforementioned page, isn't exactly a radical new thing, is it? Sure, Firefox has that extension scheme, and that's nice, but all the bluster about versions strikes me as being like a wheel spinning in mud.

I don't suppose you've tried validating the webgames' web pages? It's really easy with Firefox.

Kudos to you. That is a wonderful idea! Bugzilla seems to be down right now, so I can't see if it has already been submitted as a feature request, but you definitely should check (and submit if it has not).

http://bugzilla.mozilla.org

http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/

If you use Play launch firefox extension (with mplayer and mplayerplug-in), launch.yahoo.com works just fine. Heck, it works just fine on linux for me.

https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php ?application=firefox&id=593

Thanks, I'll see if I can get that working tonight.

First useful advice I've seen on this issue ... thanks!

NoScript helps a lot. And gmail is set to "Allow" by default. I use it and Permit Cookies.

NoScript helps a lot. And gmail is set to "Allow" by default. I use it and Permit Cookies.

https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php ?application=firefox&id=593

Osho

No security fixes are in Firefox 1.0.6.

From Mozilla Firefox 1.0.6 Release Notes:
Firefox 1.0.6 is a stability update. We recommend that users upgrade to this latest version.

Here's what's new in Firefox 1.0.6:

* Restore API compatibility for extensions and web applications that did not work in Firefox 1.0.5.

...they stopped new development on Firefox altogether and got Thunderbird a little more stable. Oh.....and they need to get that lightning calendar integration working, too. Then I could actually think about moving my organization over...

Here you go:
ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nigh tly/

I've never noticed that bug. Is it this one: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27324 4

(You'll need to copy-and-paste the URL, bugzilla doesn't allow links from slashdot.)

Sunbird would work perfectly for this. Only downside is, you have to be running the application to get the notifications.

yahoo.com - cannot use radio or video services
bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121 832

Is a tech evangelism bug. In other words upgrading your Firefox version won't make it work. Yahoo needs to code a page that works in Firefox contact them at webmaster@yahoo-inc.com or info@yahoo-inc.com. http://www.mozilla.org/projects/tech-evangelism/

If you create a user.js file in your profile with the value user_pref("browser.shell.checkDefaultBrowser", false); it should not ask again.
http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/edit#us er

They say they want 1.1 out in July here: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/roadmap.ht ml obviously that wont happen but they have settled on July 26th for the gecko split http://www.mozilla.org/roadmap.html At that point, they have 2 releases before final 1.1 is planned. Obviously I am just going on what they project, and summer isn't over til Sept 23nd so they have plently of time.

They say they want 1.1 out in July here: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/roadmap.ht ml obviously that wont happen but they have settled on July 26th for the gecko split http://www.mozilla.org/roadmap.html At that point, they have 2 releases before final 1.1 is planned. Obviously I am just going on what they project, and summer isn't over til Sept 23nd so they have plently of time.

Wait a minute... mozilla.org is blocked, but /. isn't???? Well the proxy can't be in place for lack of productivity if that's the case!

well, there's sunbird, but that's been stuck at v0.2 for a dog's age.

how can I promote myself as a candidate for translation?

Umm, get the source, and contribute back the diffs?

(See also http://www.mozilla.org/projects/intl/ fro more...)

how can I promote myself as a candidate for translation?

Umm, get the source, and contribute back the diffs?

(See also http://www.mozilla.org/projects/intl/ fro more...)

Kind of answers that here: http://wiki.mozilla.org/Software_Update The main quote being... "The update itself will contain a manifest of files which need updating/removal." At which point it will delete or overwrite them, but you can read about it, it covers it better than I can :-)

This is such a minor release, check out the release notes: http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/releases/1 .0.6.html

I wonder when Tbird will get the ability to "Always display images from " like Gmail has. We really need to add that feature, plus a few other convenience features.

After search for Deer Park Alpha 1 I found Deer Park Alpha 2... so get it!

Guess what? That's being worked on right now. They already have a good start with Deer Park Alpha 2, and you can download the nightlies via the auto-update. Definitely worth checking out and watching as the patching system finishes.

You need Popups must die. The first one merely puts a little warning in the status bar. I can enable popups manually for any site I need to.

Apparently there are some about:config settings you can tweak that basically do the same thing, but I have no idea what they are.

As for the second one, of course it's not a popup, it's a stupid DHTML trick. A div overlapping the other text. I wonder if there's a way to tweak user stylesheets to make these unobtrusive... Sounds like a great idea for a Greasemonkey script!