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Can someone explain...
Why anyone is still running Internet Explorer when there are so many better alternatives?
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Re:This is good
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Grrrr... website is getting painful!
I love the browser but hate the website. Has anybody else noticed that the Firefox website and Mozilla's site in general have become very difficult to find information with? It took me 15 or 20 seconds to find the damn release notes for 0.9.1. I hate to be picky, but that is way too long. Then the release notes don't even mention 0.9.1! How am I supposed to decide whether or not to upgrade?
It turns out you can find release notes for 0.9.1, though only from the Mozilla home page, they are almost totally content-free, and they seem to be pretty much just a copy of the main release notes page.
I'm constantly having trouble finding stuff there. This is just one example. Is there some secret site that they maintain that has less marketting spin and is more down-to-business? Hope this doesn't sound like a troll; I'm just a very frustrated user.
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Grrrr... website is getting painful!
I love the browser but hate the website. Has anybody else noticed that the Firefox website and Mozilla's site in general have become very difficult to find information with? It took me 15 or 20 seconds to find the damn release notes for 0.9.1. I hate to be picky, but that is way too long. Then the release notes don't even mention 0.9.1! How am I supposed to decide whether or not to upgrade?
It turns out you can find release notes for 0.9.1, though only from the Mozilla home page, they are almost totally content-free, and they seem to be pretty much just a copy of the main release notes page.
I'm constantly having trouble finding stuff there. This is just one example. Is there some secret site that they maintain that has less marketting spin and is more down-to-business? Hope this doesn't sound like a troll; I'm just a very frustrated user.
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Re:Good job for the Theme complaints, folks
Dude, whether or not the decision to toss Qute out the window was a good one, it's abundantly clear that they're not going to change it back now. The massive amounts of venom the people working on Winstripe are getting is totally unwarranted.
If you don't like Winstripe, offer suggestions for how to fix it. The designers are willing to take them.
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Re:Updation weirdness - Cleared up: Not deployed
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Re:Fire****?!
You can do the same Carry It Around (AKA, zip file with no installer) if you poke around on the Mozilla FTP that you get your installer from.
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Also, according to the FireFox roadmap, linked to from the Project Page, linked to from the Product Page, <a href="http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/road map.html">1.0 Beta</a> is scheduled for release in July, once the milestones listed are met. -
Planned Feature: ActiveX installer - WTF??
had a look at the roadmap and in 1.0b Greenlane a planned feature is an ActiveX installer
now hold on just a second... whats going on here? isnt ActiveX the root of most of IE's vulnerabilities?
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Re:Yus!
Sorry to say this seems to be a problem with Mozilla/Firefox and not with slashdot. The bug is called the slashdot bug on bugzilla (Bug # 217527) and has been discussed before on slashdot.
To see more information about this bug cut and paste the following link since Bugzilla does not allow direct links from slashdot
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http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217527
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Unfortunetly it does not look like it will be fixed until Mozilla 1.8a2 ... since it is the only reason I am not using Firefox at the moment.
Hope this helps,
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Re:Thankfully
they don't have to change the name again - for this they now have the Firesomething extension
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Re:Has anyone installed it yet??
Well...since you'd be rolling back from 9.0 to 0.9.1, I think that might be a bad move...
Seriously, I went to take a look at the release notes linked to on the download page and got taken to the 0.9 page, but you can see the release notes for 0.9.1 here. This should give you enough info to judge whether you want to upgrade. -
Re:Has anyone installed it yet??
Well...since you'd be rolling back from 9.0 to 0.9.1, I think that might be a bad move...
Seriously, I went to take a look at the release notes linked to on the download page and got taken to the 0.9 page, but you can see the release notes for 0.9.1 here. This should give you enough info to judge whether you want to upgrade. -
Re:Regarding MozillaIt's all on http://mozilla.org/roadmap.html:
Focus development efforts on the new standalone applications: the browser currently code-named Firefox, the Mozilla Thunderbird mail/news application, and standalone composer and other apps based on the the new XUL toolkit used by Firefox and Thunderbird. We aim to make Firefox and Thunderbird our premier products.
That's what you are saying, and what I already knew. But now there's also this:
Updated: Maintain the SeaMonkey application suite, currently built by default, for enterprises and other organizations with large existing Mozilla deployments. SeaMonkey remains an important product for many customers.
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Re:A list of sites
the patch is available Here
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Re:Thank goodness its the same name!
it's called Wateremu
or at least, it is for me, with FireSomething extension -
Re:Adblock...
I found that Adblock works fine on my 0.9. However, I did also install the Show Old Extensions extension which has been a god-send for re-enabling stuff that 0.9 blocked.
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Re:Adjusting my tinfoil hat
0.9 had a lot of new features and so it was expected a lot of small bugs would be found once it was released due to widespread testing so most people anticipated this release. It fixed the most annoying bugs in 0.9 so the developers can now concentrate on 1.0 beta
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/ - click on the roadmap link when you goto this page -
Re:Theme bug
This has been an issue for a while now. The solution looks like it's going to be that you have to restart Firefox for the theme change to take effect. See here
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Re:Adblock...
Extensions for 0.9.x can be found here
It seems installing over 0.9.0 will keep your old extentions and themes
install firesomething too its the best extention there is -
Re:Firefox
No, I don't think the point remains,
/. must have fixed something, because all looks well to me
My apologies. If all looks well to you, this must mean the bug is gone.
Again, I sincerely apologize for misleading you into thinking that something that is a bug in the Mozilla database that has been reported in 2003 and - even though it is marked as fixed - hasn't been included in Firefox 0.9 is actually not a bug for you. Maybe you are running nightly builds.
--pierre
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I'd Settle for Java 2D
Because Sun has had to hash out many of the issues of scalable vector drawings, gradients, etc. that would be very useful in an SVG implementation that could be incredibly powerful for resolution independent, dynamic web applications in an open standard, open source way (as opposed to Flash or PDF).
[I know that ghostscript has many of those issues worked out, too, but the code base was started back in the days of C and DOS and might not be as nice to work from as the Java 2D API. The Mozilla and KDE SVG efforts might benefit from an open source Java 2D.]
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Re:ATI X800 advertisement
Actually I think you might be the only one not viewing the site in Mozilla / Firefox with adblock installed.
Look at all these great sites you could block:
- http://*.falkag.net/*
- http://*.bluestreak.com/*
- http://*.tangozebra.com/*
- http://*.maxserving.com/*
- http://*.speedera.net/*
- http://*.mediaplex.com/*
- http://*.fastclick.net/*
- http://*.advertising.com/*
- http://*.pointroll.com/*
- http://*.msads.net/*
- http://*.atdmt.com/*
- http://verio.co.uk/*
- http://*.googlesyndication.com/*
I just wish adblock came with these as defaults
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Re:we would switch to firefiox IFwe would instatly switch to using firefox if they added support for proxy autoconfiguration via wpad.
The relevant bug is 28998 and as you can see the code is already mostly done. If it's important to you, put a dev or two on it. After all, isn't that what open source/free software is about?
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Re:Malicious code aims at mozilla users
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Did they use a trojan or spyware?
"At one point, the company president tried to use a "Web bug" to trace his cyber tormenter, but Tereshchuk detected the ruse."
Uhh - sounds like they tried to install some kind of activex microblaster-enabled spyware bug?? Maybe he was using Mozilla or something less spyware-enabled? ^_^
Still not a bad hack attempt - smart to use others unsecured wireless connections. I'll bet we hear about more of these types of intrusions in the future (if the media prints it). -
Free Calendar SoftwareI suggest checking out Mozilla Sunbird, here.
... great calendar program that uses the iCal standard.-Dr. Poopypants
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Re:Wonder How Microsoft Will React
And just WHY should CNN, or any other news service, "push" one product over another? What possible interest could they have?
Well, maybe they could do a little mention, like:
Alternative browsers such as Netscape 7.1 and the Mozilla Project's Firefox browser are unaffected by this and many other flaws. Netscape is a fully-owned subsidiary of AOL Time Warner, the parent company of CNN.
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Re:Multi-platform
The software can be downloaded on the SimIndiana site, but requires Windows
First thing that came to my mind was "sure glad the government had that anti-trust thing going against MicroSoft before Indiana required everyone in the state to pay taxes for a system that requires Windows". First thoughts generally aren't all that well thought out, but I think it touches on the point in a nice brief way.
And, from scrolling down, I noticed people touching on google. Well, since I'm in a bad mood, I'll pick on them too. Why the heck doesn't their blogger site work worth a darn in FireFox? O.k. that's enough stupid ranting for today.
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New patch just in!
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Re:yesIt's a Mozilla bug.
It's fixed, but who knows when the next build of your favorite Moz browser is coming out? The bug report says "Maybe 1.7.1"
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Re:#11: Build it every day
Plug: Tinderbox Rox!
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The solution to every web problem in WindowsLayers of protection.
Base: An up to date host file. This can probably block 95% of web nasties, regardless of source, yet is overlooked by most people.
Second: Proxomitron. The second browser-independent tool, it's a relatively little-known local proxy that filters the crap (including more ads than virtually every other solution) from a webpage before feeding it to your browser. Also handily removes most of the ActiveX and Javascript that causes these exploits. I simply cannot recommend it enough. In addition, it's fully configurable, and there are plenty of people out there who will write custom filters to get rid of any sort of ad that slips through.
Third: Firefox. I hesitate to suggest Opera because I don't feel it's as high a quality a product, and is closed-source, meaning it could be almost as susceptible to this stuff as Internet Explorer, should the bad guys aim their sights on it.
Fourth: In-browser plugins such as Adblock, which probably won't do much to stop this particular problem, but are nice to have around regardless. -
How to configure Internet Explorer1. First, install an alternate browser.
2. Go to Control Panel | Internet Options | Advanced | Multimedia, and uncheck "Show pictures". (FDA warning: I have not verified that this setting prevents this image exploit from infecting your system, since I don't know of any infected servers. But it will at least force you to use the alternate browser we installed in Step 1.)
3. Switch to the Security tab, and move Internet into "high". This will disable most forms of scripting. However, It also disables the Windows Update site. You can add windowsupdate.microsoft.com to a list of trusted sites (it will give you the instructions when you try to visit it in this mode), but I'd be very careful with that, since I do not doubt that the Windows Update site is very high on the crackers' lists of sites to infect. (Wouldn't that be ironic?)
FWIW, I don't know whether setting Internet zone security to "High" disables the automatic Windows update feature or not. I'll tell you as soon as there's a critical update to be notified of.
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Re:But How Many People Will Switch?
I couldn't log in because I don't have an account. All links worked in FireFox without logging in.
Also, the site is in general a poorly designed one. It doesn't even validate as HTML Transitional, though the designer neglected to use a DOCTYPE so whether it's HTML 4.0 is a guess. However, even validating against HTML 2.0 produced 177 errors.
On a side note, instead of using a substandard browser due to your banks web bugginess....take action(you can file a bug under evangelism to I believe) -
Re:Because it would make me ANGRY
Well, you can easily check if the sites you frequent have been infected. Just visit them thorough an Internet filter (didn't the article say that a modern AV could detect the malicious code?) or use a more secure browser and look in the source code(s) yourself.
In fact, someone should put up a list of sites known to be infected. I would gladly mirror it outside of the US if necessary. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to assemble such a list myself. -
Firefox
You heard the man.
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Re:Architect is not a verb.
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Re:All well and good...
Read about it in the Sunbid roadmap !
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Re:iCal
iCal is the native calendar format that Sunbird uses. See this faq entry. Try it out. You can easily import iCal calendars and subscribe to them. Some calendars to which you can subscribe to are available on this page.
For the more technical guys:
Sunbird uses libical as its calendar engine. This library is available under the MPL or the LGPL. -
Re:iCal
iCal is the native calendar format that Sunbird uses. See this faq entry. Try it out. You can easily import iCal calendars and subscribe to them. Some calendars to which you can subscribe to are available on this page.
For the more technical guys:
Sunbird uses libical as its calendar engine. This library is available under the MPL or the LGPL. -
Re:iCal
iCal is the native calendar format that Sunbird uses. See this faq entry. Try it out. You can easily import iCal calendars and subscribe to them. Some calendars to which you can subscribe to are available on this page.
For the more technical guys:
Sunbird uses libical as its calendar engine. This library is available under the MPL or the LGPL. -
Programs Broken by SP2SP2 will de-emphasize backward compatibility with legacy systems and code for the sake of security
After installing this patch, I found that several of my existing programs ceased working, not that I need them for anything important - see the list below
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Re:I wish Internet advertisers would learn...
Why not just get a different web browser? One that doesn't allow pop-ups/unders, one that can block adverts, and one that will prevent sites from resizing your window or removing your toolbars. Firefox comes to mind, but Mozilla and Opera will also do the trick.
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Re:"serving up new articles"
Err, what ads?
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Re:Tabbed browsing overrated!?
If there's one thing that bugs me about Mozilla it's that I can't make it open up clicked links (in email or other external sources) into new tabs in the existing Mozilla window.
you mean like this?
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Re:Standards supportNone that I know of comply fully but standards are of huge importance to both Mozilla and Opera:
An advocate for standards on the Net who provides tools for developing standard web content.
- Mozilla.org (specifications support)Opera prides itself in supporting all major Web standards currently in use, including CSS2, HTML4, XHTML1, HTTP1.1, DOM1, JavaScript, PNG, Unicode, and the Unicode Bidirectional Algorithm.
- Opera.com (specifications support)
Neither comply fully but they're both a darned sight better than IE. -
Yes there is
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Upgrade today!
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Re:Netscape IS mozilla
No way... Netscape 7.1 is Mozilla seamonkey.
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Re:Apple's iCal software
The other is iCalShare, recommended by a free/open-source PIM app with a rather familiar name, Mozilla Calendar. I use Moz Cal and recommend it, except that to-do list item recurrences do not actually recur--hope they fix that one soon.