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Yeah, I'm sure governments always put out memos about _all_ of their ongoings.

As for mediamatter.org's founder:

"It was launched in 2004 with David Brock as its CEO and founder. Brock is the author of four political books, including The Republican Noise Machine: Right-Wing Media and How It Corrupts Democracy. His preceding book, Blinded by the Right: The Conscience of an Ex-Conservative, was a 2002 New York Times best-selling political memoir in which he chronicled his years as a conservative media insider. Brock serves on the advisory board of Democracy Radio Inc. and is the recipient of the New Democrat Network's first award for political entrepreneurship. He is the President and CEO of Media Matters for America."

Yeah, there's not a chance that he's biased. Besides, I can http://slate.msn.com/id/2100712/quote along with you. Personally, I like the part where he admites to making stuff up. Classic.

I've got to call bullshit on that. 90% of suicide bombers in Iraq come from Morocco, Algeria, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, etc. Yes, places outside of Iraq. Mainly Iraqi muslims get killed by the car suicide bombers perpetrated by muslim foreigners.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8420885/

Notice though, the mobility of the suicide bombers. We have bombings in London today.

Thus, the argument of 'withdraw' really makes no sense to me when the suicide bomber can travel to its next target. We have been consistently attacked under Bush and Clinton ... even before Iraq.

Don't fall completely for the Vietnam analogy. Iraq is a different place with a non homogenous population with different religious values.

The easiest way to buy personal information here in the U.S. is to set up a fake company, then request the desired information from one of the major credit bureaus: Experian, Equifax, TransUnion, or ChoicePoint. Back in February ChoicePoint admitted to releasing the information on at least 145,000 consumers to fake companies.

Headline: Slashdot now banned in Kansas and Serbia!
Probably in a few other places too.

http://slate.msn.com/id/2109941/ Here is an interesting Slate Magazine article on the subject in question. Quote from article: "The FCC told me that they don't know of any federal or state laws that make it illegal to log on to an open network."

Way to fight the stereotype, Slashdot!

(Note the "Bought tooth brush on eBay once used by Ewok stunt double for six hundred bucks.")

--grendel drago

but it seems people like the piracy news from china, and this anti-piracy news about china never becomes headlines. link here

Maybe he shouldn't get let off so easily. Here Steven Landsburg, a PhD in Economics, explains the economic logic behind executing worm-creators

Maybe because the highway between LA and Las Vegas (I-15) is one of the most dangerous roads in the US?

Not only is it dangerous because of speeding, but 1) It's in the middle of the desert 2) Most people driving on it are sleep deprived from partying all night and 3) are still drunk

That's just to mention a few risks. With soaring gas prices, it is probably cheaper to fly to vegas as well. When you are in Vegas, there is no need for a car. What really would of been nice is the super speed train from Vegas to Southern California, that I believe is now scrapped. It would take you to/from vegas in 75/90 minutes.

I'll admit this is just a nitpick, but why Google FOR a calculator, when Google IS a calculator?

But can google solve (simple) equations? 2x + 4 = 13, solve for x. Google, MSN Search.

ever wonder how Snapple melts?

Um, sorry to bother you with facts, but Condi is bad because she was really bad at her job as National Security Advisor.

Example 1: 9/11, and intelligence agencies not playing well together. That's her job. Example 2: Ignoring Richard Clarke. Example 3: No WMDs in Iraq. Example 4: Allowing DoD to ignore State's reconstruction plans, completely screwing up the postwar.

Also, middle class is not poverty. You seem both very race-focused and very ignorant of Condi's background. She's apparently a trained classical pianist as well as an ice skater. Both of these are impressive accomplishments, but they don't mean she'll be good as Secretary of State. Talent is not fungible.

Is that credible enough?

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8404622/

Many Americans don't want to know that their government has become corrupt, so you can expect hostile comments if you try to talk about corruption.


Many Michael Moore fans don't want to know that he's a lying bastard. So I'll expect hostile comments when I post this.

See, ad hominem attacks are not too helpful are they?

"Hey I'll just post my web page with my world view. If you agree then you're obviously a good person. If you disagree then it's because you don't want to know the truth, or have been paid off by big business, either way I don't need to listen to you"

I don't remember any protests, but it upset me some...

of course every chip manufacturer does that

Have you ever READ an SEC filing for AMD? They generally loose money. Historically they've been loosing that money on CPUs. Because intel won't let them sell production capapcity? maybe? because they undercut intel for market share? yes.

What has kept them afloat is thier lucrative share of the flash memory market. Check the filings here, they're all PD. AMD has traditionally Lost Money on almost every desktop CPU they've released for a long time. This only recently started to change, with the foothold they've been making in the server and gaming market, and it looks like they're STILL undercutting, because they lost $17,000 last quarter (dunno how they got -$65 grand to -$17 grand, but I digress) (down from a profit of $45,000 a year ago)

I know what laws intel has broken ;) and I know that AMD is being silly claiming prices of chips are 'artificially' inflated, when they are loosing money selling them at the price they're selling them at. My points are valid, AMD is making some valid claims, and some completely off the wall looney ones.

1. Is this really news? I mean, Microsoft is putting something in Windows that might pose a security risk. There's this program people use at work called The Internet. The IT people call it Internet Explorer. And I have geek friends who can list more Windows vulnerabilities than they can recite digits of pi. I believe, in news speak, this kind of story is called an evergreen.
2. How hard is it going to be to patch RSS vulnerabilities? It might take Microsoft a couple of years, but how bad is an overflow issue?

The article was talking about "over the air" broadcasts. Which are generally analog but can also be digital.

There's a true spiritual vacuum in this world, and people are worshipping the gods of sci-fi writers, anorexia (Some kind of god), and apparently ancient cults are also on the rise (Baal, for instance). Ask yourself this question: if you were to die tomorrow, where would you go? If anybody knows the Jedi answer to that one, I'd be curious.

The FCC decided a long time ago that the answer is no - in fact, their rules say once 85% DTV penetration is reached, the analog broadcasts in any given area get switched off.

Not exactly correct. First of all, the FCC didn't decide this, it was the Congress. Second, the law states that all analog broadcasts will end on Dec 31, 2006.

The 85% DTV rule is a loophole in the legislation which states that if 85% DTV penetration has not been achieved by 12/31/06 then the date may be pushed back.

I got all of this information from this article, which I have posted elsewhere in the thread. If it's not correct, blame msnbc.com, not me.

The problem with that Hybrid vs. Taurus comparison is that.. Well, it's too good.

Yes, Insights and Priuses are forward-thinking vehicles designed for a beter future and all that jazz. Yes, Tauruses are traditionals sedans built on the concepts of the past and whatnot.

The fact is, though, that the Taurus still massively outsells the Prius and the Insight.

The Taurus averages about 350,000 sold per year since 1985. ( http://www.internetautoguide.com/reviews/45-int/mi dsize-cars/ford/taurus/2004/ )
The Prius sold all of 24,000 in '03. ( http://slate.msn.com/id/2096191/ )
From 1999 to 2002, the Insight sold just under 11,000 units. ( http://www.insightcentral.net/KB/sales.html )

Take that same concept and apply it to Microsoft vs. "The New Guys" (or whatever you want to call all the various hot new things MicroSoft must defeat to stay relevant) and... You get a very realistic comparison. So a good deal of people are using FireFox and OpenOffice, and Google is THE search engine. People ae still doing all these things from a Windows desktop, and a vast majority stick to the standard MicroSoft offering anyhow.

I'd most definitely love to see the Prius and thew Insight trounce the Taurus. It ain't happenin' soon.

I'd most definitely love to se "The New Guys" trounce MicroSoft. It ain't happenin' soon.

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OTOH, if the 12% is a lower class demographic, they probably have less disposable income and thus are not the people television advertisers are trying to reach.

I have no data to back this up, but I would be willing to bet that the 12% is not so much low income as low interest in television.

For low income families, cable t.v. is one of the cheapest forms of entertainment available. A buck or two a day for hours of entertainment. (I believe the average American watches about 4 hours /day)

Some people, believe it or not, do not watch tv. My tv has only been plugged into the antenna 3 days out of the last 4 years. (election day, and first two days of Iraq invasion)

It's possible, from a strictly business point of view, that this could be a good move for broadcasters all around.

As others commenters have stated, the broadcasters have no choice in this matter. The US gov't is going to pull the plug on analog broadcasts and auction off the spectrum. As of now, I believe this is set to occur at the end of 2006. The date will likely get pushed back, but it is definitely going to happen. Read this article for more information about the debate over whether to move back the date.

Analog TV really is going away.

Really? I don't think anyone in my family is planning on getting rid of their analog TV,

Well, your t.v. is not going away, but analog broadcasts are most definitely going away. You can watch snow on every channel if you want.

Here's a an article for you describing the gov't debate over exactly when they are going to pull the plug. Looks like they're shooting for about 18 months from now: The End of Analog TV

Actually, MSN Search gives you the same first result.

http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=microsoft+who +is+the+account+manager+for+the+Commonwealth+Bank+ of+Australia&FORM=QBHP

I love Google Search, but you need competition to keep them honest.

Had to see how well it worked (compared to google..) So I tried an image search and entered the query "anal linux".. MSN returns zero results :(

Google on the other hand was nice enough to provide me with quite a number of images, including many girls that apparently use linux.

Google wins hands-down yet again.

I know your post is being facetious, but...

Microsoft's Maps ... It never gives wrong directions. (Becasue it doesn't exist.)

It exists, and it does.

It's hard to tell from the news reports if these are the Shinkansen trains or others, but that doesn't mean that rail is perfect - just that the best units ever built, running on very special rights-of-way, haven't had major problems yet.

Nope.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7265807/

The article seems to be saying that New Line sold off merchandising rights to companies within the Time Warner family rather than sell to the highest bidder.

The suit contends that NL made more money, and therefore PJ would have recieved a higher cut, if the merchandising rights were sold on the open market.


Not exactly. According to this article at Slate, the issue is that the "pre-emptive bidding" process used to sell the rights within Time Warner allowed New Line to suppress the total amount of money they made on the films. It appears that Peter Jackson contends that they shortchanged him and were able to hide it by using this method of selling the rights.

So far, so good. But then the piece turns to an unnamed New Line lawyer, "speaking on the condition of anonymity because he is working on this lawsuit," writes Times reporter Ross Johnson, who says "the money paid to Mr. Jackson so far is in line with the contract he signed." The lawyer is quoted as saying:

Peter Jackson is an incredible filmmaker who did the impossible on Lord of the Rings. ... But there's a certain piggishness involved here. New Line already gave him enough money to rebuild Baghdad, but it's still not enough for him.

Whoa! That's great dish, but shouldn't there be a Times policy against giving a partisan source, in this case a defense attorney, the cover of anonymity to call the plaintiff in a case against his client piggish? As a matter of fact, there is such a published policy limiting what anonymous sources can say in Times articles. In "Confidential News Sources," on the paper's corporate Web site, the policy reads in part:

We do not grant anonymity to people who use it as cover for a personal or partisan attack. If pejorative opinions are worth reporting and cannot be specifically attributed, they may be paraphrased or described after thorough discussion between writer and editor. The vivid language of direct quotation confers an unfair advantage on a speaker or writer who hides behind the newspaper, and turns of phrase are valueless to a reader who cannot assess the source.

http://slate.msn.com/id/2121636

Here's a nice article from Slate that discusses how the NY Times has violated it's code on confidential news sources.

Basically, if you are going to use an anonymous source to just do a cheap-shot on someone, the NY Times is not supposed to provide anonymity.

Because, scientifically, there is no real debate anymore over whether or not man is impacting the climate and causing global warming.

Sorta like the thimerosal and autism thing. Although there we have prominent liberals such as Robert F. Kennedy Jr. claiming a scientific-corporate conspiracy.

Moral of the story: there seems to be an approximate parity between rightwing and leftwing anti-science nutcases.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8004316/

http://video.msn.com/video/req/req.aspx?t=1&p=Sour ce_Nightly%20News&i=b94552bd-146d-4b44-8200-930e52 1ee6c5&rq=32&rf=

At appears on OS X Tiger. Yes, the OS they kind of support, e.g. there is a official media player.

As I have Omniweb (guys THEY are the ones invented RSS in browser), I kinda smiled and changed identity for MSNBC to Netscape 4.8 (windows), guess what? No!

It wants IE 6 on Windows and actually ONLY compatible with it.

So, RSS board or anything, time for an urgent meeting and declaration. Ask for declaration from them. That company can do ANYTHING, don't trust to RSS'es openness.

They would ship it with total standard compliant RSS, keep a hole open on purpose and allow it to be haxored by virus/spyware than they would have a excellent excuse of raping the RFC.

BTW , semi OT about windows media player. Just imagine the company you "hate" , aka Real networks really went out of business. Just think about it.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8004316/

http://video.msn.com/video/req/req.aspx?t=1&p=Sour ce_Nightly%20News&i=b94552bd-146d-4b44-8200-930e52 1ee6c5&rq=32&rf=

At appears on OS X Tiger. Yes, the OS they kind of support, e.g. there is a official media player.

As I have Omniweb (guys THEY are the ones invented RSS in browser), I kinda smiled and changed identity for MSNBC to Netscape 4.8 (windows), guess what? No!

It wants IE 6 on Windows and actually ONLY compatible with it.

So, RSS board or anything, time for an urgent meeting and declaration. Ask for declaration from them. That company can do ANYTHING, don't trust to RSS'es openness.

They would ship it with total standard compliant RSS, keep a hole open on purpose and allow it to be haxored by virus/spyware than they would have a excellent excuse of raping the RFC.

BTW , semi OT about windows media player. Just imagine the company you "hate" , aka Real networks really went out of business. Just think about it.

This whole thing reminds me of something - didn't MS want to beat Google on SE market?

I don't see any ways of how MS can directly profit from releasing better browser, but I sure can predict that search tool will be set to Search.Msn, and while it will be possible to change it to something else, those settings are going to be well well hidden.

Currently, there are 499,000 active duty Army troops, backed up by 700,000 National Guard and Army reservists.

From the article you quoted:

Pentagon officials say it's not a crisis

In April, the Army missed its recruiting goal . . . by nearly 2,800 recruits

2800 / 1,199,000 = 0.0023352793994995829858215179316097

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7802712/

*cough*

It won't take a war on our soil. All it will take is another 9/11, which shouldn't take too long since very little of any real worth has been done to prevent or deter terrorism.

Thats funny - they already get names addresses and telephone numbers from schools in exchange for federal aid as noted in this article

A little-noticed clause in the 2002 No Child Left Behind Act requires high schools to hand over students' names, addresses and telephone numbers to military recruiters as a condition of receiving federal aid.

I guess this would fill in the gaps and really make sure 'no child is left behind'.

I wonder would this lead to more or less stories like this:

In one well-publicized case in Colorado, Army recruiters were tape-recorded encouraging a student journalist posing as a high school dropout to create a diploma from a non-existent school to comply with military enlistment requirements. They also were heard giving him advice on how to disguise a chronic "marijuana problem" and how to pass a mandatory drug test.

Try this:
Open Opera but make sure it identifies itself as "Opera" proper (no MSIE Opera stuff).
Now go to http://www.msn.com/

I couldn't get that with any other browser - not even Konqueror.
Only with Opera (on Linux haven't tried my Windows version yet)
Anyway, if the same happens on Windows - then it is clearly very personal.
Vendetta even.
Someone must upsetted Microsoft real bad - way more than any other browser company could.

that's MSN not MSNBC.

...to win viewers/readers from FOX News. There's a Newsweek piece about it this week.

[CNN president Jonathan] Klein is making revolutionary changes at the cable network--scrapping signature broadcasts like "Crossfire" and "Inside Politics," shaking up his morning-show ensemble and his prime-time producing staff, and creating a new international news show at noon. These are only the first steps in a broad overhaul plan aimed at getting the pioneering and once dominant cable news network out of a seemingly perennial second-place finish, far behind Fox News.

And before anyone complains, you may be interested in at least considering:

http://www.polisci.ucla.edu/faculty/groseclose/Med ia.Bias.8.htm

which finds, in part

Our results show a very significant liberal bias. All of the news outlets except Fox News Special Report received a score to the left of the average member of Congress. Moreover, by one of our measures all but three of these media outlets (Special Report, the Drudge Report, and ABCs World News Tonight) were closer to the average Democrat in Congress than to the median member of the House of Representatives. One of our measures found that the Drudge Report is the most centrist of all media outlets in our sample. Our other measure found that Fox News Special Report is the most centrist.

and

Based on sentences as the level of observation (the results of which are listed in Table 8), the Drudge Report is the most centrist, Fox News Special Report is second, ABC World News Tonight is third, and CBS Evening is last.

Given that the conventional wisdom is that the Drudge Report and Fox News are conservative news outlets, this ordering might be surprising. Perhaps more surprising is the degree to which the mainstream press is liberal. The results of Table 8 show that the Los Angeles Times, the New York Times, USA Today, and CBS Evening News are not only liberal, they are closer to the average Democrat in Congress (who has a score of 74.1) than they are to the median of the whole House (who has a score of 39.0). [...] the New York Times is twice as far from the center as Fox News Special Report, to gain a balanced perspective, one would need to spend twice as much time watching Special Report as he or she spends reading the New York Times. [...] Our results contrast strongly with the prior expectations of many others. It is easy to find quotes from prominent journalists and academics who claim that there is no systematic bias among media outlets in the U.S. [...] The main conclusion of our paper is that our results simply reject such claims.

Please note:

These findings refer strictly to the news stories of the outlets. That is, we omitted editorials, book reviews, and letters to the editor from our sample. (emphasis mine)

It makes me sad when people can't tell the difference between NEWS and OP-ED. Do people also have that same problem with the editorial page of the New York Times? Or just, say, Sean Hannity on FOX News? Is it acceptable to judge the news gathering and reporting capability of the Times by exclusively evaluating the content of its opinion page?

Further, one of the prime measures this report uses is the scoring for members of Congress by Americans for Democratic Action (ADA), the self-described "nation's oldest liberal lobbying group".

Now, some might say that comparing news to members of Congress, be they Democrats or Republicans, isn't an effective measure (especially if you believe there is virtually no real difference between today's politicians). But at least take time to consider the report.

Various FOX News "watchdog" groups are a dizzying array of alleged inaccuracies in FOX News opinion and editorial shows, with almost nothing in actual N

"Not having seen the wiki myself but knowing the type of obscene pictures that would get posted from slashdot, it sounds like the LA Times got flooded with images of Goatse...."

"Oh, Wiki, You're (Not) So Fine ... Last Friday, the LAT launched a "wikitorial"--an editorial in which readers took part in a grand, group rewriting--or what's known in colloquial terms as a clusterf***. It was taken down Sunday afternoon. This morning's LAT gives the gory details:

"'Sometime after midnight Saturday, [one Times editor said], he stopped monitoring the site for the night, and later pornographic images began to pour in. One image that was repeatedly posted is infamous on the Internet for its depiction of a man's private parts.'

"TP is familiar with the image. But he won't be, er, goated into revealing it...."

If you are interested in the developments of the RSS reader you can check out some of the blogs by the folks working on the reader such as Steve Rider and Sanaz Ahari.

If you are interested in the developments of the RSS reader you can check out some of the blogs by the folks working on the reader such as Steve Rider and Sanaz Ahari.

For those who do not know what the parent meant by "Sexy Cheerleading" legislation, check out these links.

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:gEUWd6ysFhAJ: enews.earthlink.net/article/str%3Fguid%3D20050503/ 4276f740_3ca6_1552620050503281522295+sexy+cheerlea ding+legislation+tx&hl=en&start=5
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7727886/
[news article]

They made 560 million. Which is better than what I implied, as I took my info from this blurb But their profit comes from 22,000 job cuts and closing plants.

They did not make 13 billion dollars last year moron.

RE: The MSN Chat Rooms. Not sure how many people know this, but MSN Chat Rooms, in and of themselves, are still free. All you need to do is create an MSN "group" - Once you do it, you'll have full access to a chat room for that 'group' http://groups.msn.com/ Of course, you dont get it publicly listed or anything, but this is less of a problem if you're a close knit group of people, as you'll have the link to share with others, anyway. We have a couple 'groups' set up for this purpose. One to discuss http://www.gnfr.com/ (don't ask, its a LONG story) and one to just hang out and talk. Anyway, hope this is useful info for those out there that actually need a publicly accessible chat point that is a bit more newbie friendly than IRC..

Google micropayments .. going to be a reality?

As seen on slashdot a couple months back?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8264385/

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