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  1. Re:Responsible Progressive analysis by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2 · on Men Are Affected By the Biological Clock As Well, Researchers Find (theguardian.com)

    "Originally" (meaning before the 19th century) girls didn't reach puberty until 16-17 on average because of poor nutrition.

    Allow me:

    What we know about the onset of pubery in females"

    From early historic times

    Ancient Rome was 12 to 14 years of age

    Middle ages in Europe was 12 to 14 years of age

    Middle ages in the Middle East was 12 to13 years of age

    In the 1800's

    Manchester, England in the 1840s

    lower class women was around 15 and a half years of age

    upper class women was around 14 and a half years of age

    London Hospital patients in 1855 was around 15 and a half years of age

    Germany in 1869 was around 15 and a half years of age

    Scotland 1870 was around 15 and a half years to 16 and a half years of age

    London 1880 middle class females was around 15 years of age

    U.S.A. late 19th century was around 12-14 and a half years of age

    USA in 1905 was around 14-15 and a half years of age

    Today it is around 12 years of age for menarche. much of this is attributed to weight of young ladies, perhaps some to estrogen and phytoestrogen exposure. from http://www.mum.org/menarage.ht...

    Arguing anything about the intent of biology or that it "shows" us anything is nonsense.

    So let me know when I ever argued about the "intent" of biology. Because biology does not have intent, and you are correct to imply such is indeed nonsense. But muchacho, don't be a jerk and attribute to me things that I never wrote.

    Regardless of the specific age of menarche, the concept of a young lady who becomes fertile at 12 years of age, and one who waits until her mid 40's to have a child as being functionally equivalent certainly ranks as nonsense. If it were advantageous in the evolutionary sense for 45 year old women to have children, and for younger ones to not, simple selection would ensure that women did not become fertile until they were much older.

    So your argument is a bit specious, with the reduction in age of menarche being over a fairly short number of years, and the signaling of fertility over a span of roughly 5 years, not decades as would be required for a superior outcome of a woman giving first birth in her thirties or forties.

    Even if we give some credence to the idea that there is a superior outcome, then there must be some advantage to waiting 30 some years after fertility is achieved to make use of that fertility.

    What makes humans different from animals is that we are not slaves to our biology, things are a lot more mutable than that.

    So give me the biological background to the limits of your socially based mutablility. We gonna have gills and wings soon?

  2. Re:Hmmm by alexo · · Score: 1 · on US Senate Passes 'Libel Tourism' Bill

    isn't it odd that many traditional, ancient rituals suggest that girls and boys reach "adulthood" at 12 and 13 respectively, ages at which today almost all children have passed puberty

    (1) "today" (emphasis mine), and (2) entered puberty, not "passed" it (they're still growing).
    That said, I am not familiar with "many" rituals, so I can only comment on some. In the Jewish tradition 13/12 is the age at which a person is considered responsible for their actions, whether it coincided with puberty at that time is speculation.

    This suggests that the data used in that (and other studies that show similar things) is either anomalous over that time period or subject to bad methodology

    If several independent studies reach the same conclusions, which is inconsistent with "ancient rituals" there is a possibility of all the studies being flawed but a much more likely explanation is a misrepresentation of the rituals.

    Now, if you have better sources, by all means post them. Otherwise, here is what I was able to find on the subject:

    There is an interesting page with information at the Museum of Menstruation and Women's Health (amazing...) but you have to be careful when reading and interpreting it as they conflate published research and "student papers" (not to mention the "how not to make a web site" theme). The information suggests that the onset of puberty in the 19th and early 20th centuries was definitely later than it is today.

    A Medscape article states that "... the age of menarche has been declining from the early 1800s until the 1950s" and gives a long list of citations to support it.

    There's an interesting article that purports to explain the discrepancy with the "ancient rituals" though. It states: "Disease and poor nutrition became more common as humans settled, causing puberty to be delayed. Modern hygiene, nutrition and medicine have allowed the age of menarche to fall to its original range.". I am not necessarily agreeing with this premise but it is one way of addressing the issue.

    As I said above, if you disagree, feel free to refute.

    the suggestion the other poster makes is that until recently medicine did a poor job of identifying puberty

    In girls, menarche is commonly viewed as the "central event" of puberty. As a parent of a teenage girl I can tell you that it is pretty hard to misidentify.

  3. Re:What do you mean early?!?!? by Kadin2048 · · Score: 1 · on Early Puberty Often More Hazardous

    We can assume this happened because that is historically the age that MOST people have gone through puberty.

    Except that would be an incorrect assumption. It was historically not uncommon for women to start having periods as late as 15 or 16. In 1830, it was approximately 15.5, depending on the population sampled. Even as recently as 1928, the average (c=10,000) age at menarche was 13.9 years. Today, it's around 12.6. (See various studies here.) That seems like a fairly significant decline to me.

    This earlier onset is usually chalked up to improved nutrition, but the overall conclusion -- that traditional societies had women becoming fertile much later in life than they are today -- remains true. Women were often considered adults and/or married before they started menstruating and finished puberty. This long transitional time that we've created in a person's teenage years, when they aren't really an adult but have long since become one biologically, did not exist until fairly recently.

  4. Re:Mod parent troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on Senator Carper Calls for Tax on Online Porn

    "A mere century ago, the usual age for marraige in most cultures was 12 to 16. Can you explain to me what has changed from that time, besides the views of society?"

    Age of onset of menstruation. It has gotten dramatically lower, going from close to 15 a century ago to about 13 today. I'm not sure how this affects your argument, though. :-)

  5. Re:Wrong on just about all counts by harvardian · · Score: 4, Insightful · on Next Step in Human Evolution
    So we are seeing hypersexuality, earlier and earlier puberty, obesity, and a lot of neurosis.

    I don't have anything better to do than argue with a eugenist on a Sunday morning, so here goes:

    You are overstating the inevitability of very vague negative effects in order to support your beliefs. It sounds very Chicken Little-ish. For example, hypersexuality and neurosis? Do you have any real evidence that these are increasing? If you take an anthropology class you'll see plenty of people who don't "fit in" and get branded as a witch in tribal societies. It may be true that anxiety and depression levels are rising, but it could also very well not be true.

    I also just read a very interesting article about Genghis Khan and how up to .5% of currently living men may be directly descended from him, due to his massive number of offspring. It's not like modern humans are the only ones to be into sex. Have you ever studied Bonobo apes? They're extremely sexual, even engaging in homosexual play. So I fail to see how this is new.

    As for obesity and a lowering age of puberty, you are correct about these. FYI, the lowering age of puberty may be an effect of better nutrition (see here). Our bodies are not used to eating as much and as well as they do. More on that later, though.

    The only way out of this situation is to start applying deliberate selective pressure. Given that this would essentially mean giving up the right of individuals to reproduce at will, I don't see it happening any time soon. Plus, I would imagine that a lot of effort would be thrown at hot-button traits like homosexuality or intelligence which probably aren't even heritable. (I know there are a lot of people who say otherwise; there are good reasons for doubting them, starting with their very eagerness.)

    Here's the real meat of where you're on the wrong track.

    Let's start easy. Is a person who weighs 1000 pounds going to procreate less than, at an equal rate to, or more than, a normal weight individual? The reasonable answer is "less than." This is selective pressure. It only needs to exert itself at the extremes to have a gradual effect. Remember that evolution is a long process.

    The same argument can be said for neurosis, even though I've disputed whether or not this is a new problem. Are people who are very anxious and depressed going to procreate less than, at an equal rate to, or more than a normal person? I'd argue that they are less likely to procreate than a normal person. Hence, selective pressure.

    As for homosexuality and intelligence, you're simply off-base. Read this Science article to see that heritability of intelligence is pegged somewhere "below 50%". They say it this way because previous studies have found very large heritabilities for IQ, and it is significant that they found heritability to be "so low" as to be under 50%. Here's from the full text:

    Our results suggest far smaller heritabilities: broad-sense heritability, which measures the total effect of genes on IQ, is perhaps 48%; narrow-sense heritability, the relevant quantity for evolutionary arguments because it measures the additive effects of genes, is about 34%. Herrnstein and Murray's evolutionary conclusions are tenuous in light of these heritabilities.

    Aside from this evidence, it's simple folly to think that genetics plays no role in intelligence. The number of NMDA receptors in your brain have recently been shown to play a role in memory, which has an obvious relation to intelligence. Does it not make sense that people with higher numbers of NMDA receptors would have better memories and be more intelligent? The number of NMDA receptors in your brain is definitely partially controlled by genetics. The degree to which it is malleable is the real question.

    As for homosexuality,

  6. Re:China's "Red Flag"? *chuckle* by clark625 · · Score: 1, Troll · on World Govs Choose Linux For Security & More

    I'm not so sure that the intent was for a national stereotype. I really think that they were taking inspiration from Judy Chicago's 1971 art piece known as "Red Flag". I personally wouldn't go looking there, though. It's not for everyone, that's for sure. Maybe it's best to forget I even mentioned it.

  7. Re:Better than being Islamic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic · on Jedi Knight Now (Not) Officially a Religion
    How Mohammed Met His End

    We shove Jimmy Dean® Homestyle Pork Sausage up Mohammed's ass. Then while the Giver strokes me off I shoot my wad in Mohammed's face, after which we force Mohammed to fellate an 800 pound Chester White. Simultaneously, two Hasidic rabbis open their kosher bowels, unleashing torrents of gefilte shit on Mohammed's head and back, while The Giver pumps Mohammed from behind. After the hog shoots its wad in Mohammed's mouth, The Giver shoots his load up Mohammed's rectum.

    Then, unexpectedly, the Chester White roots out Mohammed's penis and testicles, hungrily biting them off, gobbling them down with full porcine fury. We bury the newly castrated Mohammed up to his nose in pig manure. Two AIDS infected Bowery whores stuff their used condoms and clotted tampax down Mohammed's throat, and crack a bottle of Mad Dog 20/20 over his skull. We then leave him for the hogs to munch on. Mohammed is swine feed, and by tomorrow, he will be swine manure.

  8. Tales from the Koran: How Mohammed met his end. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll · on US Starts Attacking Afghanistan
    We shove Jimmy Dean® Homestyle Pork Sausage up Mohammed's ss. Then while the Giver strokes me off I shoot my wad in Mohammed's face, after which we force Mohammed to fellate an 800 pound Chester White. Simultaneously, two Hasidic rabbis open their kosher bowels, unleashing torrents of gefilte shit on Mohammed's head and back, while The Giver pumps Mohammed from behind. After the hog shoots its wad in Mohammed's mouth, The Giver shoots his load up Mohammed's rectum.

    Then, unexpectedly, the Chester White roots out Mohammed's penis and testicles, hungrily biting them off, gobbling them down with full porcine fury. We bury the newly castrated Mohammed up to his nose in pig manure. Two AIDS infected Bowery whores stuff their used condoms and clotted tampax down Mohammed's throat, and crack a bottle of Mad Dog 20/20 over his skull. We then leave him for the hogs to munch on. Mohammed is swine feed, and by tomorrow, he will be swine manure.

  9. Tales from the Koran: How Mohammed met his end. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic · on Cheaper Carnivore Alternatives Still Want To Spy On You
    We shove Jimmy Dean® Homestyle Pork Sausage up Mohammed's ass. Then while the Giver strokes me off I shoot my wad in Mohammed's face, after which we force Mohammed to fellate an 800 pound Chester White. Simultaneously, two Hasidic rabbis open their kosher bowels, unleashing torrents of gefilte shit on Mohammed's head and back, while The Giver pumps Mohammed from behind. After the hog shoots its wad in Mohammed's mouth, The Giver shoots his load up Mohammed's rectum.

    Then, unexpectedly, the Chester White roots out Mohammed's penis and testicles, hungrily biting them off, gobbling them down with full porcine fury. We bury the newly castrated Mohammed up to his nose in pig manure. Two AIDS infected Bowery whores stuff their used condoms and clotted tampax down Mohammed's throat, and crack a bottle of Mad Dog 20/20 over his skull. We then leave him for the hogs to munch on. Mohammed is swine feed, and by tomorrow, he will be swine manure.

  10. Re:ISLAM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll · on StarOffice 6.0 Beta Available
    Tales from the Koran: How Mohammed met his end.

    We shove Jimmy Dean® Homestyle Pork Sausage up Mohammed's ass. Then while the Giver strokes me off I shoot my wad in Mohammed's face, after which we force Mohammed to fellate an 800 pound Chester White. Simultaneously, two Hasidic rabbis open their kosher bowels, unleashing torrents of gefilte shit on Mohammed's head and back, while The Giver pumps Mohammed from behind. After the hog shoots its wad in Mohammed's mouth, The Giver shoots his load up Mohammed's rectum.

    Then, unexpectedly, the Chester White roots out Mohammed's penis and testicles, hungrily biting them off, gobbling them down with full porcine fury. We bury the newly castrated Mohammed up to his nose in pig manure. Two AIDS infected Bowery whores stuff their used condoms and clotted tampax down Mohammed's throat, and crack a bottle of Mad Dog 20/20 over his skull. We then leave him for the hogs to munch on. Mohammed is swine feed, and by tomorrow, he will be swine manure.

  11. Re:Quite simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll · on Acer Laptop W/Fingerprint Recognition System
    Weshov Jimmy Dean® Homestyle Pork Sausage up Mohammed's ass. Then while the Giver strokes me off I shoot my wad in Mohammed's face, after which we force Mohammed to fellate an 800 pound Chester White. Simultaneously, two Hasidic rabbis open their kosher bowels, unleashing torrents of gefilte shit on Mohammed's head and back, while The Giver pumps Mohammed from behind. After the hog shoots its wad in Mohammed's mouth, The Giver shoots his load up Mohammed's rectum.

    Then, unexpectedly, the Chester White roots out Mohammed's penis and testicles, hungrily biting them off, gobbling them down with full porcine fury. We bury the newly castrated Mohammed up to his nose in pig manure. Two AIDS infected Bowery whores stuff their used condoms and clotted tampax down Mohammed's throat, and crack a bottle of Mad Dog 20/20 over his skull. We then leave him for the hogs to munch on. Mohammed is swine feed, and by tomorrow, he will be swine manure.

  12. Tales from the Koran: How Mohammed met his end. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll · on Acer Laptop W/Fingerprint Recognition System
    We shove Jimmy Dean® Homestyle Pork Sausage up Mohammed's ass. Then while the Giver strokes me off I shoot my wad in Mohammed's face, after which we force Mohammed to fellate an 800 pound Chester White. Simultaneously, two Hasidic rabbis open their kosher bowels, unleashing torrents of gefilte shit on Mohammed's head and back, while The Giver pumps Mohammed from behind. After the hog shoots its wad in Mohammed's mouth, The Giver shoots his load up Mohammed's rectum.

    Then, unexpectedly, the Chester White roots out Mohammed's penis and testicles, hungrily biting them off, gobbling them down with full porcine fury. We bury the newly castrated Mohammed up to his nose in pig manure. Two AIDS infected Bowery whores stuff their used condoms and clotted tampax down Mohammed's throat, and crack a bottle of Mad Dog 20/20 over his skull. We then leave him for the hogs to munch on. Mohammed is swine feed, and by tomorrow, he will be swine manure.

  13. Tales from the Koran: How Mohammed met his end. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic · on Advertisers Escalate Banner Ad War
    We shove Jimmy Dean® Homestyle Pork Sausage up Mohammed's ass. Then while the Giver strokes me off I shoot my wad in Mohammed's face, after which we force Mohammed to fellate an 800 pound Chester White. Simultaneously, two Hasidic rabbis open their kosher bowels, unleashing torrents of gefilte shit on Mohammed's head and back, while The Giver pumps Mohammed from behind. After the hog shoots its wad in Mohammed's mouth, The Giver shoots his load up Mohammed's rectum.

    Then, unexpectedly, the Chester White roots out Mohammed's penis and testicles, hungrily biting them off, gobbling them down with full porcine fury. We bury the newly castrated Mohammed up to his nose in pig manure. Two AIDS infected Bowery whores stuff their used condoms and clotted tampax down Mohammed's throat, and crack a bottle of Mad Dog 20/20 over his skull. We then leave him for the hogs to munch on. Mohammed is swine feed, and by tomorrow, he will be swine manure.

  14. Tales from the Koran: How Mohammed met his end - by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait · on Messing Around With The Prime Directive
    We shove Jimmy Dean® Homestyle Pork Sausage up Mohmmed's ass. Then while the Giver strokes me off I shoot my wad in Mohammed's face, after which we force Mohammed to fellate an 800 pound Chester White. Simultaneously, two Hasidic rabbis open their kosher bowels, unleashing torrents of gefilte shit on Mohammed's head and back, while The Giver pumps Mohammed from behind. After the hog shoots its wad in Mohammed's mouth, The Giver shoots his load up Mohammed's rectum.

    Then, unexpectedly, the Chester White roots out Mohammed's penis and testicles, hungrily biting them off, gobbling them down with full porcine fury. We bury the newly castrated Mohammed up to his nose in pig manure. Two AIDS infected Bowery whores stuff their used condoms and clotted tampax down Mohammed's throat, and crack a bottle of Mad Dog 20/20 over his skull. We then leave him for the hogs to munch on. Mohammed is swine feed, and by tomorrow, he will be swine manure.

  15. Tales from the Koran: How Mohammed met his end by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic · on PayPal Announces Intent To IPO
    We shove Jimmy Dean® Homestyle Pork Sausage up Mohammed's ass. Then while the Giver strokes me off I shoot my wad in Mohammed's face, after which we force Mohammed to fellate an 800 pound Chester White. Simultaneously, two Hasidic rabbis open their kosher bowels, unleashing torrents of gefilte shit on Mohammed's head and back, while The Giver pumps Mohammed from behind. After the hog shoots its wad in Mohammed's mouth, The Giver shoots his load up Mohammed's rectum.

    Then, unexpectedly, the Chester White roots out Mohammed's penis and testicles, hungrily biting them off, gobbling them down with full porcine fury. We bury the newly castrated Mohammed up to his nos in pg manure. Two AIDS infected Bowery whores stuff their used condoms and clotted tampax down Mohammed's throat, and crack a bottle of Mad Dog 20/20 over his skull. We then leave him for the hogs to munch on. Mohammed is swine feed, and by tomorrow, he will be swine manure.

  16. Tales of the Koran: How Mohammed met his end by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0 · on Apple Still Says No To Aqua-Like Themes
    We shove Jimmy Dean® Homestyle Pork Sausage up Mohammed's ass. Then while the Giver strokes me off I shoot my wad in Mohammed's face, after which we force Mohammed to fellate an 800 pound Chester White. Simultaneously, two Hasidic rabbis open their kosher bowels, unleashing torrents of gefilte shit on Mohammed's head and back, while The Giver pumps Mohammed from behind. After the hog shoots its wad in Mohammed's mouth, The Giver shoots his load up Mohammed's rectum.

    Then, unexpectedly, the Chester White roots out Mohammed's penis and testicles, hungrily biting them off, gobbling them down with full porcine fury. We bury the newly castrated Mohammed up to his nose in pig manure. Two AIDS infected Bowery whores stuff their used condoms and clotted tampax down Mohammed's throat, and crack a bottle of Mad Dog 20/20 over his skull. We then leave him for the hogs to munch on. Mohammed is swine feed, and by tomorrow, he will be swine manure.

  17. Tales from the Koran: How Mohammed met his end by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll · on Aqua Mozilla OK with Apple
    We shove Jimmy Dean® Homestyle Pork Sausage up Mohammed's ass. Then while the Giver strokes me off I shoot my wad in Mohammed's face, after which we force Mohammed to fellate an 800 pound Chester White. Simultaneously, two Hasidic rabbis open their kosher bowels, unleashing torrents of gefilte shit on Mohammed's head and back, while The Giver pumps Mohammed from behind. After the hog shoots its wad in Mohammed's mouth, The Giver shoots his load up Mohammed's rectum.

    Then, unexpectedly, the Chester White roots out Mohammed's penis and testicles, hungrily biting them off, gobbling them down with full porcine fury. We bury the newly castrated Mohammed up to his nos in pig manure. Two AIDS infected Bowery whores stuff their used condoms and clotted tampax down Mohammed's throat, and crack a bottle of Mad Dog 20/20 over his skull. We then leave him for the hogs to munch on. Mohammed is swine feed, and by tomorrow, he will be swine manure.

  18. Tales from the Koran: How Mohammed met his end. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll · on Microsoft Du Jour - Talks, Upgrades, Salaries

    We shove Jimmy Dean® Homestyle Pork Sausage up Mohammed's ass. Then while the Giver strokes me off I shoot my wad in Mohammed's face, after which we force Mohammed to fellate an 800 pound Chester White. Simultaneously, two Hasidic rabbis open their kosher bowels, unleashing torrents of gefilte shit on Mohammed's head and back, while The Giver pumps Mohammed from behind. After the hog shoots its wad in Mohammed's mouth, The Giver shoots his up Mohammed's ass. Then, unexpectedly, the Chester White roots out Mohammed's penis and testicles, hungrily biting them off, gobbling them down with full porcine fury. We bury the newly castrated Mohammed up to his nose in pig manure. Two AIDS infected Bowery whores stuff their used condoms and clotted tampax down Mohammed's throat, and crack a bottle of Mad Dog 20/20 over his skull. We then leave him for the hogs to munch on. Mohammed is swine feed, and by tomorrow, he will be swine manure.

  19. How Mohammed met his end by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll · on More on the Replay TV 4000

    We shove Jimmy Dean® Homestyle Pork Sausage up Mohammed's ass. Then while the Giver strokes me off I shoot my wad in Mohammed's face, after which we force Mohammed to fellate an 800 pound Chester White. Simultaneusly, two Hasidic rabbis open their kosher bowels, uleashing torents of gefilte shit on Mohammed's head and back, while The Giver pumps Mohammed from behind. After the hog shoots its wad in Mohammed's mouth, The Giver shoots his up Mohammed's ass. Then, unexpectedly, the Chester White roots out Mohammed's penis and testicles, hungrily biting them off, gobbling them down with full porcine fury. We bury the newly castrated Mohammed up to his nose in pig manure. Two AIDS infected Bowery whores stuff their used condoms and clotted tampax down Mohammed's throat, and crack a bottle of Mad Dog 20/20 over his skull. We then leave him for the hogs to munch on. Mohammed is swine feed, and by tomorrow, he will be swine manure.

  20. How Mohammed met his end by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic · on Microsoft Worms and Global Routing Instability

    We shove Jimmy Dean® Homestyle Pork Sausage up Mohammed's ass. Then while the Giver strokes me off I shoot my wad in Mohammed's face, after which we force Mohammed to fellate an 800 pound Chester White. Simultaneusly, Two Hasidic rabbis open their kosher bowels, uleashing torents of gefilte shit on Mohammed's head and back, while The Giver pumps Mohammed from behind. After the hog shoots its wad in Mohammed's mouth, The Giver shoots his up Mohammed's ass. Then, unexpectedly, the Chester White roots out Mohammed's penis and testicles, hungrily biting them off, gobbling them down with full porcine fury. We bury the newly castrated Mohammed up to his nose in pig manure. Two AIDS infected Bowery whores stuff their used condoms and clotted tampax down Mohammed's throat, and crack a bottle of Mad Dog 20/20 over his skull. We then leave him for the hogs to munch on. Mohammed is swine feed, and by tomorrow, he will be swine manure.

  21. How Mohammed met his end by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic · on Bid to Tax Satellites Rejected

    We shove Jimmy Dean® Homestyle Pork Sausage up Mohammed's ass. Then while the Giver strokes me off I shoot my wad in Mohammed's face, after which we force Mohammed to fellate an 800 pound Chester White, while two rabbis shit on Mohammed's back. The Giver pumps Mohammed from behind. After the hog shoots its wad in Mohammed's mouth, and The Giver shoots his up Mohammed's ass. Then, unexpectedly, the Chester White roots out Mohammeds penis and testicles, hungrily biting them off, gobbling them down with full porcine fury. We bury the newly castrated Mohammed up to his nose in pig manure. Two AIDS infected Bowery whores stuff their used condoms and clotted tampax down Mohammed's throat, and crack a bottle of Mad Dog 20/20 over hs skull. We then leave him for the hogs to munch on. Mohammed is swine feed, and by tomorrow, he will be swine manure.

  22. Re: This would make a good tampon by Scareduck · · Score: 1 · on Nano-pants
    Close, maybe. Disposable diapers? I tend to agree with the other poster about the problems of toxic shock making such a device unlikely.

    And to answer the other poster who said that

    a woman's business down there is something us guys don't to think about nor dare try to innovate inside
    Well, hey, the Pill and the first commercial tampon were invented by men. The female body being a part of the natural world, us guys are as entitled to think upon it and help out our sisters, mothers, and wives out as anybody. Claiming otherwise is about as dumb as saying only blacks should do research on sickle-cell anemia.