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Stats for yesterday's hr2 robot slashdotting:
http://www.nedstatbasic.net/s?tab=1&link=5&id=3626 496

10% linux, 7.3 mac.

Yesterday during the peak of the article it was 60 xp, 20 linux, 10 win2k, 5 mac and other misc.

Visit o' meter Hope your research goes well in the future as well.

the netstat stats - see the server scream

A CD ripping guide for CDex I wrote gets its major share of hits from Firefox, Mozilla and Opera.

This may be because IE cannot display the page -- XHTML 1.1 should be served as "application/xml+xhtml" , which IE barfs at. Could I be arsed to write a browser detection script? Could I, punk? :-)

look at the sats on the page . Quite interesting. So apparently 46% of slashdot is from the US? or only 46% reads the story? hmm

More interesting still are the Browsers used and OSes by the Slashdot crowd.
Hey, Firefox is doing pretty well around here. Still surprised at all the IE6s though.

Here are the site's hit statistics (scroll down to October 20):
http://www.nedstatbasic.net/s?tab=1&link=1&id=3111 461

Anyone want to see it? If you can get the page to load, click on the chart icon which leads you here...
12:32 EST 20 octubre 2004 1223... Took 300 hits since 2 minutes ago.. Neat

the statistics prove it:
nedstat (work safe link) You can also check the statistics for other sites here.

1 Internet Explorer 6.x 79.0 %
2. Internet Explorer 5.x 6.0 %
3. Opera 7.x 3.3 %
4. Netscape 7.x 3.3 %
5. Mozilla Firefox 2.7 %
6. Mozilla 1.x 2.3 %

79 + 6 = 85 is rounded up to 90. Bill is not that far off. Specially since he has the statistics for hotmail.com & msn.com. An both fail from time to time to render with other browsers. (think opera & msn & borked.

(anonymous ....if you check the NOT worksafe link this statistics are for)

Scroll down to the very bottom of the IP address page and find the light blue chart link - It leads to here which is a dutch? page statistic application.. As of 6:30 EST it had 46250 pageviews...
The article was posted at 2:30 AM, I'm kinda curious about the morning traffic to see if it takes another slashdotting... -B

Just look at that guy's statistics page
What hit him so hard on 12th?

page stats

So far, most posts in here have been about binary only drivers provided directly by hardware vendors. My case is somewhat different, yet if I read everything correctly, I could still be affected by all this.

I am the author of the Linux Philips webcam driver, which supports a lot of Philips and Logitecht webcams, and a few others. This driver has been in development for nearly 4 years, has been formally introduced into kernel 2.4.5 and has been in continual support by yours truely ever since the first public release, some 3 years ago. Now here's the catch:

Part of the driver (PWC) is Open Source, even in the kernel under the GPL. With it, you have a functional webcam driver, but there are some limitations; you can't get the full resolution and not as high as framerate as is possible. For that, you need a binary only plugin, called PWCX. It contains decompression routines that allow you to use the cam at its full performance. These decompression routines fall under an NDA and are thus not public. Judging by the number of mails and webvisitors I think this driver has been quite a success. And now this may no longer be possible.

The point is, that by the strict interpretation held by Linus et al. I can no longer make this PWCX driver, thereby depriving a lot of users of a useful bit of hardware. Or at least make it quite a bit less enjoyable. I might as well remove the PWC driver altogether form the kernel then, hmm?

First off, I feel sorry for the thousands of Linux users that use my driver (PWC and/or PWCX) and may no longer be able to do so. Second, I'm getting pissed off beyond measure by this Open Source fundamentalism because it is my driver that may be turned into a worhtless piece of code.

It is my ass here that's on the line; I signed the NDA with Philips and if I goof up and accidently post the decompressor code or fail to protect it properly, I will be the one standing in court, not Linus. Second, I went through all the trouble of getting in contact with Philips, trying to convince them to help the Linux community and indeed they have, and I commend them on that. But they have their reasons to shield some parts from prying eyes (read: competition) and I can't blame them. So that's why there's and NDA and it's even fairly relaxed. Without the NDA there wouldn't even have been a driver.

BTW, Philips spent exactly 2 webcams and a couple of manhours on getting the paperwork done in order to get their product supported in Linux for 3 years across 3 major kernel versions, including online helpdesk. I think that's damn cheap. I cannot count the hours I spent on programming and debugging and tracing intractable bugs, not to mention the time spent in helping users by e-mail. I've also spent many an hour to get this PWCX module crosscompiled to various hardware platforms in order to extend it's Linux usage as much as possible. Now that may appearantly all have been a big waste of time. Thank you very much!

No, it is time to realize for anybody who thinks that the GPL is the Holy Grail of computing that this is not going to work. You cannot force anyone to oblige by a volountary license (because that's what the GPL is: nothing more, nothing less). As I wroting in my piece on tainting the kernel, if you make it any harder for (hardware) vendors to support their product in Linux, they'll drop it like a brick because they don't have to. This way Linux will never gain any real acceptance.

Finally, it's also not very wise to piss off people like me, who are doing their best, and made some small yet clearly apreciated contribution to Linux. I would also rather have a complete Open Source solution, but I'm realistic enough to know that is not possible in this Universe. So I think I've struck quite a good comprise. But if I am being told now: "well, that isn't good enough", I might just throw in the towel in the ring altogether.

- Nemosoft

Thanks :) Can you guess when Ceren gets mentioned in a Score-5 post?

:)

What have you done to his stats! STATS!

Dead ends and wastage are a part of life. It's not possible to plan everything, tell everybody what to do. It's like saying "just imagine how advanced ours cars would be if everybody had simply bought Ford".

Now think about how much time, money, and effort was spent on Gnome or KDE. Now think about how much further along Gnome or KDE could have been if nobody had wasted their time on the other one.

That split was unfortunately inevitable, and it will hopefully serve as a lesson to anybody that would start a major product while ignoring the philosophies that started it all.

Now think about Gecko. Gecko, as a browser technology, is essentially dead. KHTML, thanks to Apple, rules the day.

According to my desktop neutral but Linux based website (see sig), over 45% of my hits come from Mozilla. Only 8% come from Konq (and in fact it's normally lower, more like 4-5% on most days, but the figures do vary). Interestingly, Internet Explorer makes up the rest, presumably from people visiting at work. See here for details

So, in the real world, Gecko is most certainly not dead. "Dead" in this context would have to be determined by development speed and user base. Clearly, I have to cater to my users, almost all of which are on Mozilla based browsers.

And if you really want to have fun, you can open his net statistics in a separate window/tab, reload the original page, then reload the statistics to see if you're in the "last 10 visitors"! Took me three goes to get there in time at all, and I was already down to number 8 :-)

Well, it's a holiday, so I really do have too much free time. Anyway, there's someone at Boeing who isn't doing any work, either.

Their Net Statistics page.

34% of slashdot readers who went to the Eiffel site use Mozilla,
25% run Linux, and
7% have Realplayer installed

according to this.

Nice graphical representation of the slashdot effect.

this is a /.

"Based on the number of visitors of 234 today so far, today your site may have 337 page views (+/- 7)."

I think it might be a little off for today. MAAAAYBE.

Check out the statistics page for the site. What's that big spike around the 8th of November? (insert maniacal laugh)

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Good ol' Slashdot.

According to:

http://v1.nedstatbasic.net/s?tab=1&link=1&id=28283 0

it's their busiest day ever... almost double their normal traffic.

Wonderful, a nice, nasty story, and they just get extra publicity...

The Slashdot Effect.

You can watch the pain at his ISP's stats page.

use the link at the bottom to watch the slashdotting in realtime! :)

Check out the guy's page stats here.

Check out the nedstat for CD Freaks.

For a laugh, check out Andrew Jardines' stat page: htt p:/ /nl.viewstat.nedstatbasic.net/cgi-bin/viewstat?nam e=count_andrews_page (esp page views per day)

They did get Slashdotted. Check the statistics at http://nl.viewstat.ne dstatbasic.net/cgi-bin/viewstat?name=CAP