Easter Humor
sohp writes "The longest running Internet cartoon of all, Dave Farley's Dr. Fun, has this laugher on some tasty case mods for the Easter season." cojoco sends in a webpage covering the secret dangers of bunnies, and we here at Slashdot would like to make a public service announcement that humans have a responsibility to care for their pets even if they chew through computer cords. linuxwrangler writes "It's Easter and the 50th anniversary of the Marshmallow Peep. The fine folks at Peep Research have found them to cooperative test subjects. People with too much time on their hands (tm) have braved copyright complaints to create "Lord of the Peeps, FOTP" and we can't forget NASA's brave peep-o-nauts. Happy easter."
One of the hats I wear is volunteer for the House Rabbit Society (Michigan chapter). We get hundreds of calls every year from people who get a rabbit for whatever reason -- gift from girl/boyfriend, Easter gift, parents bought to teach kids "responsibility," or like this case, someone who took a stray into his home instead of calling his local animal control facility.
Probably 95% of these calls are dump calls. People get sick of an animal and want to "get rid of" it -- and yes, those are the exact words they use, almost every time, "get rid of."
Most of those are just people who don't know how to take care of the damn thing. For cripe's sakes, people, when you get an animal, go buy a book and read it. Rabbits are not dogs or cats. For starters, they chew. And maybe I'm just in a bad mood but how much of a genius do you have to be to turn a chewing animal loose in your home without protecting your precious computer cables? Baby gates, plexiglass and cable wrap -- this is not rocket science.
How much of a genius, to not realize that an animal that chews through a power cord will very possibly kill itself?
And how much of a humanitarian, to blame the animal for your own fuckup, and dump it on a shelter?
(If you have a rabbit, by the way, we recommend the House Rabbit Handbook because it's simply the best guide out there.)
I feel a sudden need for a link to that picture of the bunny with a pancake on its head.
Happy Easter Everyone.
Try this one too...
http://www.poddys.com/jokes/east_006.htm
Twix
...the most dangerous rabbit of all
"Anybody who tells me I can't use a program because it's not open source, go suck on rms. I'm not interested." (LT 2004)
Shouts out to all my peeps in tha house! ... Sorry
Cyde Weys Musings - Scrutinizing the inscrutable
Note the glowing red eyes!
Bunnies aren't just cute like everybody supposes! They've got them hoppy legs and twitchy little noses! And what's with all the carrots? What do they need such good eyesight for anyway?
(blatantly ripped off from Buffy)
I stole this Sig
...but easter is cancelled
Hell is not other people; it is yourself. - Ludwig Wittgenstein
This is NOT offtopic... it is SO on-topic.
...
Lord I Lift Your Name On High
You Came From Heaven To Earth,
To Show The Way.
From The Earth To The Cross,
My Debt To Pay.
From The Cross To The Grave,
From The Grave To The Sky,
Lord I Lift Your Name On High.
Is Doctor Fun the oldest comic on the Internet?
No. That would be "Where the Buffalo Roam" by Hans Bjordahl. "Where the Buffalo Roam" started in 1991, and had its own Usenet group long before Doctor Fun came along, and is still running on the web.
god is dead, and i am alive. easter greetings
don't celebrate easter, so i wasn't thinking about it.
when i first read the post I thought it said "Eastern Humour" and I was wondering what easterners found so funny about rabbits.
[grin]
lysergically yours
Bunnies aren't just cute like everybody supposes
They got them hoppy legs and twitchy little noses
And what's with all the carrots?
What do they need such good eyesight for anyway?
Bunnies, bunnies, it must be bunnies
For the complete lyrics and MIDI files
The deadliest rabbit ever (from Monty Python and the Holy Grail)
My brother had the same problem with his bunny. Ate every cord in the house one night.
Scary. I was at pets on broadway today, buying cat treats for my puss.
Didn't see the rabbit though....
If you are not familiar with cooking game, so to speak I would suggest James Beard's, "American Cookery". It is full with the history of the recipes and their particulars not just in a culinary manner but some social and cultural insights as well. A good read.
An Education is the Font of All Liberty
Better tell the mudslimes. They seem to still be stuck in the 12th century.
It's Easter? Woah. And here I am, thinking it's something else... I still wouldn't mind some peeps, though.
Our sins have been washed away by the Blood of the Lamb.
That is what Easter is really all about.
Of course, it helps if you're six feet tale and have an evil metal face.
Lawrence Person (lawrencepersonh@gmailh.com (remove all "h"s to mail)
http://www.lawrenceperson.com/
It's also 4/20 today, a special holiday for us hippie types :)
Spark one up and say "high" to the easter bunny for me!
Reminds me when i brought in some peeps and we put them in the vaccum chamber in the chem lab. They started to grow a bit like we hypothesised(like the marshmallows in the jar in the foodsaver vaclock II infomercial) but then i guess all the air pockets in the marchmallow collapsed and we ended up with paper thin little blobs of purple sugar. Tasted the same, but not so chewey.
"Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus Rex."
Forgot this one from my original post: the Peep War strategy game.
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"You are not remembered for doing what is expected of you." - Atul Chitnis
Rabbits can be litter-box trained quite easily.
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the strongest word is still the word "free"
I don't know about you guys, but the annual fight to the death involving my mother, aunt, and grandmother over how the stuffing should be prepared is just about all the Easter humour I can handle. =\
Kids love 'em!
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faeryman
Alternate Universe? HORSESHIT! It was a tacked on ending by a lame director.
Tip of advice kids, unless you like sci-fi on the level of Battlefield Earth or "horror" equal to I Still Know What You Did Last Summer avoid this chunk of shit at all costs.
PS The rabbit is really donnies sisters Boyfriends Halloween Costume.
We celebrate a different holiday today. Just call me a heathen ;)
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just cause it's easter..
http://www.dvdeastereggs.com
She even dressed up as one for halloween! Scary and sexy as hell
Funny this should be brought up. Last night my fiancee called me and while we were talking she noticed the light was out in her refrigerator. I asked her if the fan was running which she said it wasn't. So I said it could only be three things - 1) The plug was unplugged, 2) her rabbit chewed through the cord, or 3) the breaker tripped. Turns out it was number 2 - her rabbit had chewed through the 120v AC cord without being electricuted. Lucky rabbit!
Random Musings
Did anyone see the picture of [that] rabbit?
:D
Look at it's eyes! Look at it's inherent evil! It desires to chew a power cord and ruin that Unix system's perfect uptime! Rabbits are an institution of Microsoft! Eat the rabbit and you get four lucky rabbit feet; that's what MCSE's carry on their keychain's because they too know Microsoft and uptime are a snowball's luck in hell! Somebody, anybody, don't let the rabbits into your house or the [Microsoft] terrorists win!
Oh and happy Jesus Christ's second birthday!
fifth sigma, inc.
I moderate this whole article as +1, Thrull
But Evolution *can* be disproved by science,
You Know It Really Can - Entropy canNOT decrease in a closed situation.
Perhaps you should go back to grade 9 science and re-examine the world around you. Earth is not a closed system, it's powered by the sun, which is a screaming source of entropy increase. The solar system and galaxy are also not closed systems. The universe might not be a closed system either, but Stephen Hawking hasn't gotten back to me on that one yet.
You know that a few centuries ago people like Hawking were burned at the stake for heresy and pi was equal to 3 exactly? Christianity is cool!
> Darwin ... Showed ... 9/11 just a learning curve.
Linking evolution to terrorism, good job! Man, I haven't seen a flimsy connection that farfetched since someone said that Harry Potter led to kids disobeying their parents. (Clue: Especially in the first book of HP, the adults don't listen to or dismiss the kids - even when the kids have something important to say. That's the lesson.)
> But Evolution *can* be disproved by science,
> You Know It Really Can - Entropy canNOT decrease in a closed situation.
Earth's not a closed system. It receives constant energy input from the sun.
Sorry, troll. You Lose.
Happy Jesus on a stick day!
Bugs are just features that have been fixed.
Of course, the Earth isn't a closed system, so the entrophy argument is complete bull; you see, there is this little thing called the Sun...
Of course, so's the rest of this. Today's Doonesbury is kind of apt...
Every year for easter, I have rabbit for dinner. Sometimes stewed, sometimes BBQ'd. I explain to my kids that we are "eating the easter bunny". (This is my one touch of right-wing Christian reactionary - I can't stand the silliness that is indulged in the name of "celebrating" Christian holidays. I hate Satan "I do not exist" Claus, and I DESPISE the "easter bunny." If you wanna be a pagan, fine - not my business - but for those who claim to be Christian to celebrate the most holy-days of our faith with pagan nonsense is stupid.)
"He who would learn astronomy, and other recondite arts, let him go elsewhere. " -- John Calvin, commenting on Genesis 1
Here is a picture of why Easter was canceled in an Amish Community.
Who gave Colin Powell a Slashdot account? First tying to link Iraq to September 11, and now trying to link evolution to terrorism? What's next, Syria!? Oh...right...
Let's remember what Easter is all about...Bunnies. It's got nothing to do with God coming to earth in the form of a man to pay the ultimate sacrifice for our sins. Let's dress this holiday up just like we dress up every other Christian holiday and turn something sacred into a great way to sell Cadbury Eggs.
I should know, I did the research. April 20 (I forget what year) is when Adolph "JewHater" Hitler was born. That's one sick bastard, but that doesn't dampen Jesus Christ's second birthday! Praise Jesus Christ!
Dammit. The Catholic church is the only church that would screw up 4/20 by shoving the holiest day of the year right down on top of it. Yeah, well smoke this, God!
By the way, does anybody else find it funny that if you do a Google search for 420, most of the sites are down? Including High Times magazine!
I needed that!
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Dancing and singing "Bright Side of Life" while on the crucifix. THAT is the appropriate Python for Easter.. Bright Side of Life .wav for ya
Have a look at the script, including some small pics of our friends up on their Roman Mounts
However, as far as "forcing beliefs" on people - you are a bit of a jackass, aren't you? Do you honestly think that you celebrating the easter bunny forces MY beliefs on YOU? How 'bout when they teach my children about Santa Claus in the public schools? Who is having beliefs forced on them?
"He who would learn astronomy, and other recondite arts, let him go elsewhere. " -- John Calvin, commenting on Genesis 1
I pledge allegiance to the Easter Peeps Flag of the United States...
lol....
lets see what happens to his server now.
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I wouldn't be posting this obvious comment, but in this case, we can watch the page hits go from 6 to 6000+
http://www.nedstatbasic.net/s?tab=1&link=1&id=2
Nice troll!
I should probably mention, however, that I am perfectly aware of the origins of the name "Easter" - yet, that is another case of paganism polluting Christianity, not the other way around.
"He who would learn astronomy, and other recondite arts, let him go elsewhere. " -- John Calvin, commenting on Genesis 1
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When my wife was a kid:
Wife: what's good friday?
Brother: That's the day Jesus died.
Wife: then what's easter?
Brother: Thet's when the easter bunny came along and dug him up.
And I married that pagan.
"He who would learn astronomy, and other recondite arts, let him go elsewhere. " -- John Calvin, commenting on Genesis 1
B: You got your christianity in my paganism!
Mmmm, tasty!
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Ah yeah, here we go again!
Damn! This is some funky shit that I be laying down on your ass.
This one goes out to all my homey's working in the field of evolutionary science.
Check it!
Fuck the damn creationists, those bunch of dumb-ass bitches,
Every time I think of them my trigger finger itches.
They want to have their bullshit, taught in public class,
Stephen J. Gould should put his foot right up their ass.
Noah and his ark, Adam and his Eve,
Straight up fairy stories even children don't believe.
I'm not saying there's no god, that's not for me to say,
All I'm saying is the Earth was not made in a day.
Fuck, fuck, fuck,
fuck the Creationists.
Break it down.
Ah damn, this is a funky jam!
I'm about ready to kick this bitch back in.
Check it.
Fuck the damn creationists I say it with authority,
Because kicking their punk asses be me paramount priority.
Them whack-ass bitches say, "evolution's just a theory",
They best step off, them brainless fools, I'll give them cause to fear me.
The cosmos is expanding every second, every day,
but their minds are shrinking as they close their eyes and pray.
They call their bullshit science like the word could give them cred,
If them bitches be scientists then cap me in the head.
Bass!
Bring that shit in!
Ah yeah, that's right, fuck them all motherfuckers.
Fucking punk ass creationists trying to set scientific thought back 400 years.
Fuck that!
If them superstitious motherfuckers want to have that kind of party,
I'm going to put my dick in the mashed potatoes.
Fucking creationists.
Fuck them.
were you expecting to see a sig here? perhaps you'd rather see the inside of an ambulance!
Don't forget this!
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http://minibytes.mondominishows.com/easter/main
Favorite: "yummy"
but.. we're NOT all christians?
Now that I think about it, I agree with the original poster. There's too much pagan stuff in Christianity. I say we form a new, non-religion by taking all of our good stuff away from the Christians, and let them keep their worshipping, water splashing, and lowercase T waving to themselves.
However, I must disagree with your statement about Christians forcing their beliefs upon people. That is not true, they have no monopoly on being assholes, and I have met Linux advocates who are just as ignorant.
Besides, someone telling you that you're evil isn't forcing their beliefs on you. Stop being a pussy, and just say to yourself, "I have willpower, and I cannot be led by this". Even more so when that person isn't talking to you directly, but is posting a message in a forum.
G*d, I'm sick of whiners who cannot read opposing viewpoints without feeling that those viewpoints are being 'forced' upon them.
As soon as you are being questioned by the inquisition, then you can talk about having beliefs forced upon you.
You act as if cats and dogs were useful for any other purpose. Until it is proven to me that they serve a useful purpose, other than as meat, to society, maybe I'll condemn their slaughter for food purposes. Until then, I say let the cute and furry animals be cooked up just like the not-so-much so. To do otherwise would be discrimination.
But Evolution *can* be disproved by science,
You Know It Really Can - Entropy canNOT decrease in a closed situation.
You're 100% right - it's NOT closed.
Hince the argument for Christianity - and thus against the "closed-system darwin inspired bilogy student"
Their argument is that everything was created out of white noise. Take the "clock example." Imagine you see a watch laying on the ground - would you assume that it was created completely at random from an orderly Godless universe?
The "entropy argument" states that unless "complex forces" act on something, its orderness cannot increase. For example, a simple force can shatter a glass, but it would take very complex forces to reassemble the glass. This is also an argument for time travelling only in one direction.
You know, that's one thing that I agree with Christians with, but for opposite reasons.
I see santa as a way to indoctrinate kids with the belief that there is an all powerful being that judges whether they have been good or bad, and rewards or punishes them accordingly.
Sorta like training wheels for later life when they fear the judgement of the god/afterlife fantasy, instead of developing an independant system of ethics to guide their choices.
It's it strange how one concept can be hated on both sides of the fence for totally opposite reasons?
I've had enough abrasive sigs. Kittens are cute and fuzzy.
I think you misspelled "God"...
For interspecies comparison with peeps, check out this research project on Lindt Gold Bunnies.
foldplay your photos won't know what hit them.
i need a hardcopy for the office
wow, brett
just wow
Right! If that's the way you want it -- Cardinal! Poke her with the soft cushions!
Fire in the hands of the village idiot is no tool, but a weapon of mass destruction
So far, I have not seen any non-religious ethical system that can answer the latter two questions. Humanism tries, but fails: why should I care about the good of humanity? And, in case you haven't noticed lately, the secularization of human services under the banner of government has not given the wonderful results promised. (Go down to the 'hood sometime and see all the parentless children if you don't believe me. They were there before, they are there now. But there may be more now. "The poor will be with you always.")
As a Christian, I can answer these last two questions, but probably not in the way you expect. My answers are as follows:
- What to do? What God tells me to.
- Why? Because I love God, because he is good and just. Yes, I really feel that way. (And yes, I'm familiar with the gazillion old testament examples that you might feel inclined to cite.)
- How? With his power, and with the assurance that if I sacrifice my welfare in this life, I need not worry because I can look forward to something better in the next.
Christian ethics call for a profoundly unworldly viewpoint -- one that says "money doesn't matter, stuff doesn't matter, heaven knows that war on iraq doesn't matter: only God matters" -- and this viewpoint will ALWAYS be unpopular. When Christian ethics becomes trite, as in the formulation you gave in your post, is when it is watered down in an attempt to make it practical for people who *don't* love God more than their own life. Is it really surprising that it fails in such cases?"He who would learn astronomy, and other recondite arts, let him go elsewhere. " -- John Calvin, commenting on Genesis 1
I presume you mean randomness when you say white noise.
That's not even remotely accurate. Natural selection isn't random in the least.
If tits were wings it'd be flying around.
ARTHUR: What, behind the rabbit?
TIM: It is the rabbit.
ARTHUR: You silly sod!
TIM: What?
ARTHUR: You got us all worked up!
TIM: Well, that's no ordinary rabbit!
ARTHUR: Ohh.
TIM: That's the most foul, cruel, and bad-tempered rodent you ever set eyes on!
ROBIN: You tit! I soiled my armour I was so scared!
TIM: Look, that rabbit's got a vicious streak a mile wide! It's a killer!
Death awaits with large, sharp, pointy teeth! (Now, THAT's an easter bunny for ya.)
Sometimes I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion.
If I see a watch lying on the ground I'd assume that it was made by someone in Switzerland.
White noise -> (QCD/QED) -> sub-atomic particles -> (weak nuclear forces) -> hydrogen -> (fusion) -> elements -> (strong nuclear forces) -> molecules, including RNA, DNA and the rest of biology.
We also have gravitational forces giving us planets etc. and electromagnetic forces giving us headaches^H^H^H^H^H^H the Internet etc.
God certainly went to a lot of trouble to keep us occupied when it seems that chiselling "have faith or you'll go to hell" on to a stone tablet would have done the job.
p.s. Some of my forces may be a little confused.
"Damn long-ears taking easter away from Jesus" --Peter Griffin
Im jewish, you insensitive clod!
What signature defines me as a person?
Americans eat cow, Indian's worship them; Asians eat dog & cat, Americans love them; Redneck Americans eat Nutria (rats), some Indians worship rats.
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Power to the Peaceful
Ach! Don't say His name! :)
Here -- Victim Peeps were put between at least four anthills in an attempt to replicate some ancient torture tests attributed to Native Americans from many years ago. While the Bunnies are hardly masters of torture, the honey was easy enough to come by. The rest should have been obvious, but this "experiment" provided proof positive that the Peeps are *so* evil, and *so* impossible to deal with. Essentially NO ants took the bait. A few unfortunate insects managed to get themselves trapped in the honey, only to either escape after many minutes of struggling, or drown in the golden pool of death.
Ant(Dude) @ Quality Foraged Links (AQFL.net) & The Ant Farm (antfarm.ma.cx / antfarm.home.dhs.org).
Mardi Gras celebrates the showing of breasts.
College students will all throw-up in the dumpster by the KFC on Bourbon St. and people will be having drunken sex and getting trashed all night long.
That is what Mardi Gras is all about.
why run from Vincenzo?
Add few drops to cable, watch bunny flip... No more cable chewing bunny.
We are the people our parents warned us about.
To disprove evolution, but their theory has a flaw.
The second law is quite precise about where it applies,
Only in a closed system must the entropy count rise.
The earth's not a closed system' it's powered by the sun,
So fuck the damn creationists, Doomsday get my gun!
hmmm, the David Pogue cheese slice looks good too!
The reason most atheists/Satanists/musicians are looked at funny by Christians is the atheist/Satanist/botanists petty bitchiness about telling everyone they're not Christian/Muslim/Buddhist (RMS is a good example of this, actually), and finding it offensive to even be THOUGHT of as such. Frankly, I don't give a shit what you believe. You do your thing, I do mine. When you start pissing on the graves of things I consider sacred, I WILL defend my beliefs. I would expect you to do the same for things you believe in.
so by extension, if we were only to eat non-sentient beings, we could consume lusers
Me too. You'd think that presumably intelligent adults would be able to understand someone else's viewpoints and deal with differing opinions accordingly.
For some reason I'm remined of Richard Stallman's website where he talks about how to "deal with" Christians during Christmas. He seems to think that anyone wishing him a Merry Christmas is akin to him being buttraped by a 500lb black dude that calls himself "Candy". For such a presumably intelligent person to get so upset over something like that is completely laughable. I've had Jewish people wish me a happy Hannukah, I've had Satanists wish me a good trip to hell in a handbasket, and I've had Buddhists tell me they hope I have a happy 15 lifetimes. I can honestly say that I haven't ever been offended, and I can't understand why anyone would be unless they were nothing but reactionary assholes in the first place.
'Standards' in computing only impress those who are impressed by things like 'standards'.
"Confess! Confess!" "I CONFESS! I CONFESS!" "Not you, HER!"
And this stupid "Don't use so many caps" thing is fucking annoying. They're yelling in the script, dipshit!
'Standards' in computing only impress those who are impressed by things like 'standards'.
Besides those scrumtious chewey cords bunnies are also known to like remote control buttons (those soft rubber ones), cardboard boxes, and paperback book covers, newspapers too.
Our rabbit soon learned the computer room was off limits - that's how he learned when no one was noticing he could then make a bee-line right under the computer desk. (especially when guests are present)
Also the best dorrway barrier for bunny assault is a Copmmodore SX-64, standing on it's base it is too heavy to push or paw around and the added handle at the top sufficiently keeps climbing rabbits at bay.
"Enjoy what you're doing! If it becomes drudgery, you're doing it wrong!" - Jim Butterfield
aligator tastes like chicken. rabbit tastes like chicken. rats taste like chicken..
As a Libertarian, I know government doesn't work also. I don't think it has anything to do with religion though. As a Libertarian I do adovcate eliminating government charity in favor of private charity, be it secular or religious.
About humanism, it does have a weak foundation. I don't believe in humanism completely, I believe in something that could be described as "selfish humanism". I believe every action we take is inherently selfish, on some level or another.
To take your words: "I sacrifice my welfare...because I can look forward to something better"
Inherently a selfish action. You are acting a certain way, because of a percieved quid-pro-quo of getting something after you die. Every action, no matter how altruistic it seems, can be viewed in this light.
I build a system of ethics from this inherently selfish foundation. Surprisingly, it works pretty well. Selfishness doesn't imply a lack of empathy, or of feelings, only a primary motivation to do things for yourself before you do them for others. Often doing things for selfish reasons benefits others.
An example, maybe someone joins the peace corps "to help people" because it gives them warm fuzzies, or because it will increase their social standing back home, or because they can put it on their resume, or because it gives them a license to act like they are better than someone else, etc...
Not all selfish motivations are tangible, many may be subconsious, but the key to my system of ethics is understanding this.
This may sound a lot like Objectivism, and it's similar, but I don't agree with many of the conclusions the mainstream Objectivist comes to.
This message was originally about 200 lines longer, but I cut a lot out. This is just way too big a subject matter to discuss effectively here.
I've had enough abrasive sigs. Kittens are cute and fuzzy.
Pet of the Day has a real Easter Bunny along with a bulldog and a cat with rabbit ears.
Did you hear they cancelled Easter this year? Yep, they found the body.
the major advances in civilization are processes which all but wreck the societies in which they occur - A.N. White
The User Friendly strip for Easter Sunday has the right idea. ;-)
Bruce Lane, KC7GR,
Blue Feather Technologies
I thought that there was a poll, and most slashdotters weren't Christian, but instead were Hindi or Muslim. I might be wrong though.
But yes, they chew on things. They especially like phone cords - data and power cords are ok, but phone cords have just the right chewy texture and usually don't taste like they've got electricity in them. Cordless phones help take care of this problem, and you'll have cordless phones pretty soon whether you plan for them or not :-)
Plastic piping of various sorts forces you to keep your cables neat, or at least to keep them out of reach, and to keep the spare cables stashed in a drawer. They also make other shapes of cord protectors - spiral sorts of stuff. If you're not normally neat (which I'm not) you'll end up having to learn a bit about keeping the back of your desk and the floor under it neat instead of cluttered with cables, but you'll get some positive reinforcement because the bunny periodically gets in and eats all the cables you didn't secure.
Now that it's been a few years since our last bunny, and I've acquired more computer equipment with more cords, I've lost most of those neatness habits except putting away the unused cables :-( The DSL modem is on the floor, mostly for convenience, and it makes a nice warm thing for the cat to lie on when he's hanging around while I work.
Bill Stewart
New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
Did the Easter Bunny come to your house this year?
Don't know, haven't checked my snares yet....
The parent AC post was +3 insightful, but antichrist mods put it down to 0. MOD PARENT BACK UP.
>>>Possibly. However, I have to say that in part, I am a Christian not because I was indoctrinated from an early age (I wasn't) but because I am not convinced that a sensible ethical code can be formulated without some kind of teleological (that is, losely speaking, goal-centered) foundation.
That's similar to my choice I had. When I was a kid, our family only went to church rarely. It soon became "too much a hassle", a statement we hear plenty of times. From 1'st grade all the way up to my sophomore year, I wasnt indoctrinated with anything. God, Jesus, Heaven, and the bible was a passing subject. At that time, it wasnt important.
Something was missing that I couldnt name. I first thought it was either my hobbies, or school. It was neither. I then decided, myself, that I wanted to try church again. My parents agreed, but was shocked that it was my decision alone. I go to the Catholic church in my city, but they were... cold. They wern't mean or anything. I then went to a small town's Catholic Church, St. Agnes (located in Nashville, IN) was the name of that small place. That is what I was missing all that time. If you're ever there, just ask Sister Mildred for Josh Crawley.
>>>In order to answer the question of "what is right" or "what should I do", one must first figure out what they are trying to accomplish.
It's soo much simpler than that.
Love one another.
>>>So far, I have not seen any non-religious ethical system that can answer the latter two questions. Humanism tries, but fails: why should I care about the good of humanity? And, in case you haven't noticed lately, the secularization of human services under the banner of government has not given the wonderful results promised.
Too true. If anything, what welfare needs is a community helping its own people. Money from big govt helps.. any money helps, but having their own neighbors come out and help is what we need to back to. Our church doesnt "look down" on those with other beliefs, or deny food and shelter because yopu wont convert, though those who hate Christanity wish to think that true.
>>>(Go down to the 'hood sometime and see all the parentless children if you don't believe me. They were there before, they are there now. But there may be more now. "The poor will be with you always.")
It's a moral decline. "Now, sex is ok for everybody." attitude sickens me. If anything, they ought to think what they do not just affects themselves, but a future life.
>>>As a Christian, I can answer these last two questions, but probably not in the way you expect. My answers are as follows:
* What to do? What God tells me to.
* Why? Because I love God, because he is good and just. Yes, I really feel that way. (And yes, I'm familiar with the gazillion old testament examples that you might feel inclined to cite.)
Even in the old testament, God still forgave. Sometimes it took a while, or he gave chances to an unjust city.
* How? With his power, and with the assurance that if I sacrifice my welfare in this life, I need not worry because I can look forward to something better in the next.
>>>Christian ethics call for a profoundly unworldly viewpoint -- one that says "money doesn't matter, stuff doesn't matter, heaven knows that war on iraq doesn't matter: only God matters"
Do you see a hearse followed by a U-Haul? You come with nothing, and you leave with nothing.
-- and this viewpoint will ALWAYS be unpopular. When Christian ethics becomes trite, as in the formulation you gave in your post, is when it is watered down in an attempt to make it practical for people who *don't* love God more than their own life. Is it really surprising that it fails in such cases?
What's oh, so funny is that after going to church for 3 years, I met the love of my life. I've turned from a darkish-gray to a white hat, and I've learnwed to love God.
I truly am happy now.
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Kill da wabbit! Kill daaa waaabbbitt!
Are those playboy bunnies. They can chew anything they want...
For some reason I'm remined of Richard Stallman's website... For such a presumably intelligent person to get so upset over something like that is completely laughable... I can't understand why anyone would be [so offended] unless they were nothing but reactionary assholes in the first place.
I think that about sums it up.
And how much of a humanitarian, to blame the animal for your own fuckup, and dump it on a shelter?
Okay, I know this will probably offend some people, but...what's the deal here? Really and honestly, if you get a chicken or a duck or a rabbit or whatever, there are people running around who are saying that if you aren't sure you can take care of it, you shouldn't get the thing. What do they have to support their argument? What's *wrong* with getting an animal, deciding that you don't like it, and having it put down?
It isn't on "humanitarian" grounds, as jamie's pointing out, since a humanitarian specificaly values *human* welfare.
Some sort of general ban on killing animals? I kill bugs, like the ants that like to get into my room all the time, and don't have the slightest problem with it. Most people don't. What's the mysterious dividing line between rabbits and ants? They both sense pain, etc, etc.
Some sort of pratical issue? We ban murder in most societies because allowing murder produces severe negative social effects on the society. If you allow it, people get desperate and attack other people back, and the society devolves into violence. Killing a rabbit -- there isn't much of a social impact there. Hitchcock's The Birds was a fantasy -- the critters aren't going to be able to do anything back to you.
The only reason I can think of that we have shelters for rabbits, but not for spiders, is that rabbits and fuzzy animals trigger a deep irrational "It's cute!" response -- the same sort of thing that drives PETA. Then we develop a moral system using these basic, irrational reactions as axioms that we then use to *justify* the reactions and our actions. "But it's *wrong* to keep a rabbit and then let it die!" *Why*, I ask?
Finally, if jamie and PETA and friends succeed, and people run out and buy N - M rabbits one year instead of N rabbits...then what? You have M rabbits that don't even have a chance at *life*. Yeah, maybe those rabbits would have ended up spending their last moments working on an electrical cord...but I'm still glad that *I* exist, even if I happen to die next week getting run over by a car.
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Possibly. However, I have to say that in part, I am a Christian not because I was indoctrinated from an early age (I wasn't) but because I am not convinced that a sensible ethical code can be formulated without some kind of teleological (that is, losely speaking, goal-centered) foundation.
Not meta enough. Why do you consider a "sensible" ethical code sensible? Why do you *need* an ethical code?
My guess is that you want something that "feels" good because it allows you to justify the majority of your actions? Christianity is pretty much a big book of decent rules of thumb, along with its own agenda. But you can certainly live by Christian rules of thumb ("it tends to pay off to be civil to people, regardles of how they act toward you", etc) without adding in the extra crap associated with Christianity.
I mean, I can say to you "Don't stick your hand into fire. This is because there's a big fire elemental turtle that lives in all fires and wants to bite your hand. You should be sure to give me some money each week to help me, the only person who can control him, from overrunning the world". I've got a decent rule of thumb there, but you're certainly under no obligation to follow any of the other BS I have attached to it.
And Christianity *does* make people do some irrational things, even if it also has some decent rules.
The influence of Christianity has been in free-fall since the Reformation as more and more of the growing intelligentsia class have seen inconsistencies in it and become irritated with some of its doctrine.
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The Second Law is a statistical law. It is not required to hold -- it is just the (very, very) common case that it does hold.
Maxwell's Demon is a decent counterexample.
Any argument based on "entropy" that is not simply designed to produce a useful, but not necessarily accurate model, is broken. Entropy is a useful human concept, but it cannot be rigorously defined (it runs into the same problems as "order", "randomness", and "probability"). You cannot say "this is *impossible*, because it violates the Second Law of Thermodynamics". You *can* say "Because of the Second Law of Thermodynamics, failure of this system can be considered extremely unlikely, so our firm should build it".
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I was hoping for pictures of microwaved peeps. I was sure the "reaction to heat" link would be it, but no, alas...
For a second I thought you were quoting Steven "MC" Hawking (http://www.mchawking.com/) in his song Entropy:
"Creationists always try to use the second law,
to disprove evolution, but their theory has a flaw.
The second law is quite precise about where it applies,
only in a closed system must the entropy count rise.
The earth's not a closed system' it's powered by the sun,
so fuck the damn creationists, Doomsday get my gun!"
Don't click on the above. (I certainly did NOT post it.)
Who the fuck moderated this stupid redundant (didn't get the parent posters joke) statement as "insightful"???
A person has great insight if they don't understand a joke? WTF?!
Typical inane, self satisfied, self-righteous Paulian crap (yes, Paulian, not Christian). There are plenty of non-Christian, non-religious philosophers who have devoted their entire life to moral and ethical study, but because it doesn't come from that stuffy old book of yours it couldn't possibly have value, right? Get over yourself. Some people do good merely for the sake of doing good, and don't need the threat of "eternal damnation" or the promise of "eternal life" to motivate them. *I* am of the opinion that anyone who bases their moral decision making on religious grounds can never truly be a "good" person because their basic motivation is selfishness. I try to do good by people even though I don't believe in your god or in your bible. Some of the most well mannered, morally righteous people I know have no religion whatsoever, and some of the "Christians" I know are the rudest, most evil people you'd ever care to meet, all the while thinking that they're "good" because they go to church.
If your moral code is based on dogma rather than on upbringing and simple truths, you won't have the creative energy necessary to deal with morally ambiguous situations. What will you do, carry a bible with you everywhere you go so that you can refer to it if you get in a situation where you're not sure what the "right" thing to do is? Maybe if your moral code was a bit simpler, like "try not to hurt people", you'd be better prepared for life. Read the "ten" commandments sometime. There are a lot more than ten, and some of them are clearly ridiculous. If you see your daughter naked, both you and she get the death penalty, for example. A truly "moral" code based on the bible only works if you ignore a large portion of the bible. Otherwise, your code will be very *immoral*, in my opinion.
WWJD? JWRTFA!
Current beliefs that peoples "orignally" had are commonly found after conversion to a different religion - mainly because there is some ambiguity with religions. Anyway, you want examples? Virgin Mary in Mexico, the hillside of the reported sighting was also a hillside used previously for fertility rituals. More you say? Go to christianized Africans and ask for a picture of Baby Jesus. By GOLLY HE AIN'T WHITE! And with some, he replaces spirits that affected weather/fertility/etc.
All in the order of making those major denominations more palitable. Originally, as long as they got (most) of it right, colonizers didn't care too much, as they were more after resources. Major Religions were more used as a way to get things under control (YES... Read The Colonizers Model of the World by Blaut)
And yes, I am an Anthro Major.
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