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Since Ubuntu is based on Debian, its success is contingent upon that of Debian. Ubuntu isn't a fork from Debian; according to one of the other responders, they pull new changes up from Debian every 6 months. According to Netcraft, Debian is the fastest growing distro:

http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2005/12/05/stron g_growth_for_debian.html

One can assume that Ubuntu, et al. are included in this statistic.

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This press release includes "safe harbor" language pursuant to the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, as amended, indicating that certain statements about the Company's business contained in the press releases are "forward-looking" rather than "historic." The press releases contain forward- looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties concerning GTX Global's expected financial performance (as described without limitation in quotations from management in the press release), as well as GTX Global's strategic and operational plans. Actual results may differ materially from the results predicted and reported results should not be considered as an indication of future performance.

Who needs manpages anymore? Just ask on /., and some seasoned sysadmin will come to your rescue! (note: not claiming anything about the parent poster, looks genuine though)

Have a look at this concurrent website link to the RedHawk linux product

http://www.ccur.com/isd_solutions_redhawklinux.asp ?o9=1

Its an active server page, thats a Microsoft IIS webserver !

Netcraft says IIS 5.0

How can they really justify selling linux when they wont even use it themselves ?

As for Google News, one reason it remains in beta is that it has no business model. If Google tries to put ads on Google News, the newspapers and magazines whose stories are listed on Google News would probably file lawsuits, alleging that Google is trying to profit from their content. Google's emergence is a threat to the major media outlets that represent much of the content on Google News, and some folks in the news business believe it will remain in beta untilthis problem is settled.

That explains why IIS is in decline in terms of market share and total numbers.

If only Netcraft or the like could produce publically available statistics upon what server OS's are actually used in the field - their "What's that Site Running" as a webcrawler on a daily basis for a random pool of 50,000 target domains. I suggest this as in my world the use of Windows to host a webserver seems very rare - albeit as fileservers they are more common.

Here for instance we see very useful statistics surrounding webserver deployment but not host OS.

server market shares

I read a study recently that most phishing web sites don't live longer than a week.

Which is why the netcraft anti-phishing toolbar is weighted to giving a poor rating to very new sites. It makes sense: if you are wanting to bank online, you expect a domain registered years not days ago.

Ideas such as colour coding location bars and an anti-phishing database.

Do they mean like in the Netcraft anti-phishing toolbar?

It's just fact based on what was found is all. Accept it.

But the bug reports from Securia, which is not sponsored by Microsoft or Linux, show quite clearly that Windows Server 2003 and SQL Server 2000 have more known vulnerabilities than Redhat and Oracle. How can Windows Server 2003 be more secure when it is clear that it has more vulnerabilities?

(After all - the rest of the planet seems to, given that Win32 based Operating Systems (by now, I would wager mostly Windows NT-based OS', such as Windows 2000/XP/Server 2003, & software run on 95-99% of all the personal computers on the planet, & not just restricted to laptops/desktops, but servers as well).

I'm unable to find any statistics for 2005, but back in 2000, Linux accounted for 36% of webservers, and Windows only 21%, according to Netcraft. It's likely that this hasn't changed.

It just isn't quite as versatile as Win32 based OS

Windows is certainly more compatable with hardware and the majority of software binaries about, but more versatile? In what way?

IMHO, the Apache group has gotten a little too comfy with their market dominance and years of blind faith from unix users. Sounds like it's time to remind them that especially if you're already on an open-source platform, you have a lot of choices.

Yeah, they need a message. Look at that beautiful graph now - Apache's hit 70% this month!

Obviously, they're hitting that percentage because, like, people don't have a choice in the matter. It must be dirty pool playing on the part of the ASF... right?

I find the Apache config file fairly easy to set up. It works reliably and without complaint every day, with now just shy of 5 years of perfect uptime...

Of course, you might consider this option... Pick your poison.

It may be just me, but I think you're reading too much into a Netcraft report here. Outside of the fact that FreeBSD and Linux seem to be about equally present here, the platform on which the projects's *website* is hosted doesn't say anything about the platform the project itself is developed on.

Case in point: openbsd.org is hosted on Solaris. Does that mean that OpenBSD is primarily developed on Solaris? Of course not. And the same thing goes for Apache, too. It's still possible that Apache is primarily developed on FreeBSD, of course, but a Netcraft report doesn't say anything about whether it is.

How about the "overhead" of the various BSDs? FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and NetBSD all have what could be described as "too much overhead" in their development model. Yet all three are considered among the shining stars of FOSS operating systems. Stable, robust, and "you know what you're getting".

BTW- Apache is developed primarily on FreeBSD.

According to netcraft, Slashdot is the 47th most popular web site they track (about 1/2 of the top 10 are google, I swear) whereas digg falls in at 1913. Get the facts before you troll buddy.

"Google's move towards a single Google Account for multiple services exacerbates the problem, as the same account used by the Google Base site can also be used to access financially sensitive services such as AdWords and AdSense, and Google's GMail webmail service."

For another interesting comparison, check netcraft for digg and compare it with slashdot Slashdot way outclasses them, natably in ranking as the 47th most visited site. (I swear, half of the top ten are google)

Also, for uptime people, /. last rebooted 102 days ago while for digg it is only 40 days ago.

For another interesting comparison, check netcraft for digg and compare it with slashdot Slashdot way outclasses them, natably in ranking as the 47th most visited site. (I swear, half of the top ten are google)

Also, for uptime people, /. last rebooted 102 days ago while for digg it is only 40 days ago.

Keep it up, and if it's serving web pages to the public, then you'll beat the highest-ranked Windows server in just another 1250 days or so. Of course, you'll still be six months "younger" than the top 10 (all Unix), but boy-oh-boy, won't you have something to brag about!

http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=subsid.sa p-ag.de

http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http:/ /www.sapdb.org

uh huh...

No idea about the stuff on the inside, but the front lines *seem* to be towing the corp line.

... facts are facts. ;)

FreeBSD:
Nearly 2.5 Million Active Sites running FreeBSD (Jun 2004)
"[FreeBSD] has secured a strong foothold with the hosting community and continues to grow, gaining over a million hostnames and half a million active sites since July 2003."
FreeBSD, Stealth-Growth Open Source Project (Jun 2004)
"FreeBSD has dramatically increased its market penetration over the last year."
What's New in the FreeBSD Network Stack (Sep 2004)
"FreeBSD can now route 1Mpps on a 2.8GHz Xeon whilst Linux can't do much more than 100kpps."

NetBSD:
NetBSD sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (May 2004)
NetBSD again sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (30 Sep 2004)

OpenBSD:
OpenBSD Widens Its Scope (Nov 2004)
Review: OpenBSD 3.6 shows steady improvement (Nov 2004)

*BSD in general:
Deep study: The world's safest computing environment (Nov 2004)
"The world's safest and most secure 24/7 online computing environment - operating system plus applications - is proving to be the Open Source platform of BSD (Berkeley Software Distribution) and the Mac OS X based on Darwin."
..and last but not least, we have the cutest mascot as well - undisputedly. ;)

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Being able to read *other people's* source code is a nice thing, not a 'fundamental freedom'.

OK, I hurried a bit but I felt as I had to.

http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http:/ /mturk.com

It is indeed in Amazon netblock but registering it through godaddy.com with a hotmail address... Gee, I wish I could show like 40 phishing mails I received with the same pattern.

Sadly there are many victims of phishing sites, and they get slashdotted because the database software can't handle that many requests.

I have never seen such a unserious whois from a big company like amazon. There are many registrars REJECTING hotmail.com contact addresses even!

The great thing about Firefox is that it is plugin based. You can simply extend it as you please. For anti-phishing I have installed the NetCraft Toolbar Netcraft Toolbar

It would be great if anyone would add a comparison between the various Anti-phishing tools for the various browsert. I personally think the one from NetCrafts will be a strong candidate to beat, and I do also belive it is available for IE...

My own take is that Firefox is much better off being as simple and small as possible - the opportunity to AVOID every function you never need is among my reasons for selecting Firefox together with the easy of extending it the way I want.

Maybe it would be ok to bundle certain plugins with the browser, but please make them easy to remove!!! Even though I installed the NetCraft Toolbar, I don't believe I have any reasons for having it - other than that the curiosity of seeing how it reports some of these bad sites...

And worse, it doesn't work when javascript is disabled.

http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http:/ /opensourceenergy.org

Eeeehhh?

It might be a idea for Mozilla to make a agreement with http://toolbar.netcraft.com/ as it updates and it works pretty well.
Good for both involved imho

Is it just me, or is there some irony here? http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http:/ /www.live.com

I think the reason might be related to this...

http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/accuracy.html#linux2 6

Quote: http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/accuracy.html

Additionally HP-UX, Linux, NetApp NetCache, Solaris and recent releases of FreeBSD cycle back to zero after 497 days, exactly as if the machine had been rebooted at that precise point. Thus it is not possible to see a HP-UX, Linux or Solaris system with an uptime measurement above 497 days.

There could be a very good reason for that;

"
Why do you not report uptimes for Linux 2.6 or Linux alpha/ia64 ?

The Linux kernel switched to a higher internal timer rate at kernel version 2.5.26. Linux 2.4 used a rate of 100Hz. Linux 2.6 uses a timer at 1000Hz. (An explanation of the HZ setting in Linux.)

The above applies to Linux on 32-bit Intel-compatible systems (which is the most common case). Linux on other platforms uses different timer rates: the Alpha and Intel ia-64 ports already used 1000Hz, while the ports for sparc, m68k and other less common processors continue to use 100Hz.

The Linux TCP code only uses the low 32 bits of the timer. Due to the faster rate of the timer, the value wraps around every 49.7 days (whereas it used to wrap after 497 days). Because there are large numbers of Linux systems which have a higher uptime than this, it is no longer possible to report accurate uptimes for these systems.
" - http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/accuracy.html#linux2 6

Umm... http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html Find Linux in that list :P

W2K http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http:/ /nsa.gov

"Oh yeah, Hotmail. That's that big system they host on UNIX machines, isn't it?"

http://searchdns.netcraft.com/?host=.hotmail.com

1. get rid of those awful NetCraft web stats that show Apache is by far the most popular web server,
   
2. buy the WWW: buy servers, server farms and web-hosting companies until there's no one left w/o M$ technology.
   
   

   Microsoft will initially pay hi wages to hire away expertise from currently successful web hosting firms.

Actually the Apache install base is not a good measure of the linux install base. Netcraft at one time tracked operating systems but they stopped sometime in 2001.

However, the older Netcraft surveys do suggest a significant linux presence and the author of the NBR article is misrepresenting the article to which he references.

Based on old Netcraft surveys linux likely has around a 30% market share in web servers and Windows has around 50%. That is far from tiny and insignificant and based on information from the report to which the NBR article refers I suspect that linux market share may be increasing.

http://survey.netcraft.com/index-200106.html

And for anyone who actualy reads the IDC article to which the NBR tripe refers they will discover that while linux only holds 11.5% of quarterly revenues for servers shipped from large system builders, which again is not tiny and insignificant, the growth of linux revenue and shipments is 3 to 4 times that of Windows. So with Windows server revenue at $12 billion and linux revenue at $1 billion and 3 to 4 times the growth it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that linux is going to eat somebodies lunch.

http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS0022 3005

The author of the NBR article seems to have a preconcieved notion of the world around him and even when he reads contradictory facts he maintains his illusion.

burnin

This is significant, since you have a lot more phishing attacks targeting Paypal and eBay than the major banks these days.

Like this (http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html) : www.windows-sc.necsoft.com 102 1267 1310 1310 BSD/OS Microsoft-IIS/5.0 Running MS IIS on BSD - Duh...

They count both hostnames and active sites. The 50 million number is for hostnames.

If you want to test a server yourself, go to http://www.netcraft.com/whats

To read the survey in full go to http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2005/10/04/octob er_2005_web_server_survey.html
You can also always find the latest survey at http://news.netcraft.com/archives/web_server_surve y.html

They count both hostnames and active sites. The 50 million number is for hostnames.

If you want to test a server yourself, go to http://www.netcraft.com/whats

To read the survey in full go to http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2005/10/04/octob er_2005_web_server_survey.html
You can also always find the latest survey at http://news.netcraft.com/archives/web_server_surve y.html

They count both hostnames and active sites. The 50 million number is for hostnames.

If you want to test a server yourself, go to http://www.netcraft.com/whats

To read the survey in full go to http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2005/10/04/octob er_2005_web_server_survey.html
You can also always find the latest survey at http://news.netcraft.com/archives/web_server_surve y.html

Actually they still show the os.

look at http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html

to see ths longest running servers and their os

Larien is correct. The changes indicate infrastructure shifts at domain registrars, specifically Network Solutions and Namezero (as alluded to in this Netcraft post from 2003 and this one from 2001. Both briefly shifted from Solaris to Windows, and then back again.

Larien is correct. The changes indicate infrastructure shifts at domain registrars, specifically Network Solutions and Namezero (as alluded to in this Netcraft post from 2003 and this one from 2001. Both briefly shifted from Solaris to Windows, and then back again.

They just say they "received responses from 74,409,971 sites" while not defining what a site actually is.

Netcraft is very clear about this.

One server running 10,000 virtual hosts is 10,000 "sites".

This is why historically thttpd did very well in Netcraft surveys -- it was good at hosting thousands of sites from one server (and allowed throttling of over-used sites).

Follow the links in TFA. They you'll get to http://survey.netcraft.com/index-200007.html which says
"The Netcraft Web Server Survey is a survey of Web Server software usage on Internet connected computers. We collect and collate as many hostnames providing an http service as we can find, and systematically poll each one with an HTTP request for the server name."

I would be interested to see what OSes those sites are running on, I'd suspect it would kill the "Linux is just as insecure as Microsoft" myth.

BTW, does Netcraft have a version of the DowJones 500 to see what the top 500 sites are running? I can't seem to find anything....