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Re:bittorrent vs apache
lynx http://www.aol.com/dsfasfgsg
Not Found
The requested URL was not found on this server.
AOLserver/3.4.2 on http://www.aol.com
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Re:Already /.'ed
Did you bother to visit the page? The error message makes it plain which server its running but if you need further evidence:
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=www.mini -itx.com
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is BeOS Linux?
I've never really looked at BeOS...and I'm wondering is BeOS Linux or Unix? Or is BeOS just BeOS.
If it's not Linux, then why are they running the yellowTab site on Linux?
Netcraft
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Re:mandatory encryption.Nearly 2 Million Active Sites running FreeBSD
Indeed it is the only operating system that is gaining, rather than losing share of the active sites found by the Web Server Survey.
I hate to have to bring this fact to your attention, but it seems cruel to let you continue to believe that Linux is actually gaining a marketshare. If anything, the approaching demise of such Linux companies as SuSe, RedHat and Corel hearalds the demise of linux itself.
The metoric rise and fall of the Linux operating system will surely be a footnote of interest in twenty years, when FreeBSD is still serving up yahoo.com.
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Yet Apache is GAINING, not losing market share.These stats aren't showing the full story, as far as I can tell. If Windows gained this month, then it gained and so be it - but that's not what these numbers say. They just say how many Windows 2003 systems used to run Linux, but they omit how many new users of Linux used to run Windows. Without that data, it's rather meaningless.
Apache is gaining, not losing market share. Apache can run on Windows, but it rarely does - the Windows license costs make it rather expensive, and often with no benefit. See Netcraft for more data.
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Re:Data is Waaaaaay OffI'm afraid it's not him, but you instead.
I guess you missed what microsoft recently had to do to avoid being slammed by one of those windows worms that have been creeping all along the windows-based part of the Internet for months: They have hired Akamai to cache their web sites all around the globe, and the akamai servers are taking the majority (all?) of the web hits now. And guess what akamai runs?
To get the proof from DNS, just type 'dig www.microsoft.com' ->
;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.microsoft.com. 79 IN CNAME www.microsoft.com.edgesuite.net.
www.microsoft.co m.edgesuite.net. 98 IN CNAME a562.cd.akamai.net.
a562.cd.akamai.net. 13 IN A 63.209.144.169
a562.cd.akamai.net. 13 IN A 63.209.144.181
a562.cd.akamai.net. 13 IN A 63.209.144.182
a562.cd.akamai.net. 13 IN A 64.156.220.104
a562.cd.akamai.net. 13 IN A 64.156.220.105
a562.cd.akamai.net. 13 IN A 64.156.220.106
a562.cd.akamai.net. 13 IN A 63.209.144.166
a562.cd.akamai.net. 13 IN A 63.209.144.168
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Graphs from this months survey
The long term trends you can see from the Netcraft September 2003 Web Server Survey tell a totally different story from the article they have on their front page. Apache which is mostly (or though not always) run on free operating systems is at an all-time high. By comparison Microsoft is at a two year low.
I would suggest that this is the reason for the article. To try and distract attention from IIS's dwindling market share. How one particular software release is doing is irrelevant to the big picture (especially when it only has 0.4 percent market share anyway). Most of this growth for Windows Server 2003 is present Windows customers upgrading or buying new machines and if the latest version of their software wasn't growing in market share they really would be screwed. You don't see articles about how the latest version of Apache is growing compared to older versions do you.
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Re:Doh.
What do you mean by "dollars per day transacted"?
Are you talking about how much money people spend at an e-commerce web sites?
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Re:Data is Waaaaaay Off
It hasn't. I just checked.
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Network Solutions Bailing on Windows
From: http://news.netcraft.com/archives/web_server_surv
e y.html
Following on from last month, Microsoft continued to lose sites as Network Solutions migrated the rest of their domain parking system back to Solaris from a Windows based system hosted at Interland. This is primarily responsible for Microsoft's 2.2% fall, with a net loss of 810,597 sites.
So, what was that again about Linux losing market share? Maybe it is actually going to Mac OS X! -
Well...
We all know Who else jumped ship...to Linux
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Ah, fun with percentages...
So... 5% of the new Win2k3 servers since January came from Linux. Considering there's around 180k Win2k3 servers, that amounts to an amazing 9000 servers in 9 months! Wow!
:)
OTOH, between August and September, there was only a 0.17% increase in apache servers (here)... Since last month there were 13325183 Apache servers, that means a mere 46438 sites increase in a single month period. Hell, yeah! Unix is dying! Call the coroner! -
Re:SCO Suit?
So you're suggesting that the US army should nuke themselves?
Interesting...
not that I would oppose to it myself! -
Microsoft Influence
Looks like one of Netcraft's major clients is Microsoft!
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Yawn.
http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2003/09/01/sept
e mber_2003_web_server_survey.html
Apache gained, IIS lost, please drive through. I guess netcraft needed to drum up some hits to boost their ad revenue so they created this other non-story to get Slashdotters riled up. -
Microsoft's way with maths...The original netcraft article on the "Migration" to Windows Server 2003 hints at the fact that that most of the migration is occuring on hosted systems, where the hosting providers have received very favorable terms ( read as bribes ) to switch to Windows2003. Myhosting.com continues to be the top hoster of active Windows Server 2003 sites, and now has over 98% of their active sites migrated to Windows 2003. The month before, Myhosting.com was hosting 13,504 , in comparison to last months 32,810, an increase which accounts for the 5%. Yes, one provider.
What the Microsoft spin doctors do not mention is the continuing market share loss to Apache overall.
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Microsoft's way with maths...The original netcraft article on the "Migration" to Windows Server 2003 hints at the fact that that most of the migration is occuring on hosted systems, where the hosting providers have received very favorable terms ( read as bribes ) to switch to Windows2003. Myhosting.com continues to be the top hoster of active Windows Server 2003 sites, and now has over 98% of their active sites migrated to Windows 2003. The month before, Myhosting.com was hosting 13,504 , in comparison to last months 32,810, an increase which accounts for the 5%. Yes, one provider.
What the Microsoft spin doctors do not mention is the continuing market share loss to Apache overall.
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Jump ship?
Why jump ship? This article is misleading, as the September 2003 Netcraft survey shows an increase in the number of Apache sites, and decrease in IIS sites. So a few Linux sites migrated; not all managers will support Linux. Overall, Apache on UNIX is going strong.
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Re:Doh.
Also maybe someone should point out that Apache actually gained 0.54% relative market share in the past month, while Microsoft lost 0.21%. In fact, September 2003 looks like it was the Best month ever for Apache so far.
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Data is Waaaaaay Off
Well, since Sitefinder is running Linux, wouldn't Linux now be running an infinite number more sites than Windows Server 2003?
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Overall Trend
To me the Overall Trend Looks very very good for Apache ( + linux assuming most apache installs run linux )
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Re:FreeBSD vs Linux performance
How about server stability?
take a quick look at Netcraft's longest-uptimes page and see what OS is most prominent on that page.
Here's a summary for you.
BSD/OS and FreeBSD: 50
GNU/Linux (all distros): 0
All other *NIX's combined: 0
Windows (98, XP, 2k and 2k3): 0
Mac OS and OS/X: 0
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... And CNN Works on Web Capabilities
Wow, there are only five comments posted at this moment and already the link is dead.
Well, it's 404, not slashdot effect, so I'll save the snide comments about Netscape Enterprise Server.
Anyway, here's a working link. Should be good for at least a few minutes.
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Re:boot?
430 day uptime, thank you.
- 11:52am up 430 days, 13:59, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
Here's the data at Netcraft. It shows a smaller number since Netcraft hasn't checked in over a month.
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Netcraft hasn't posted any news on this yet...
I wonder when Netcraft is going to acknowledge and adjust its database to ignore bogus domains.
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Netcraft hasn't posted any news on this yet...
I wonder when Netcraft is going to acknowledge and adjust its database to ignore bogus domains.
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What's that site running (Netcraft)
The site czsdfjasfasd.net is running Apache on Linux.
OS, Web Server and Hosting History for czsdfjasfasd.net
OS: Linux
Server: Apache
Last changed: 16-Sep-2003
IP address: 64.94.110.11
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Oh boy
I have two things to say:
(1) It runs Apache on Linux! Yay!
(2) That had better be the most secure Linux box on the face of the planet
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=fooooooo ooooobaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrr.com -
But we can't hate them...
Just a little humour...
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We interrupt for an important newsflash
Netcraft reports that Goatse.cx is running IIS/5.0 on Linux. Repeat: Netcraft reports that Goatse.cx is running IIS/5.0 on Linux.
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We interrupt for an important newsflash
Netcraft reports that Goatse.cx is running IIS/5.0 on Linux. Repeat: Netcraft reports that Goatse.cx is running IIS/5.0 on Linux.
Now back to your regularly scheduled article. -
We interrupt for an important newsflash
Netcraft reports that Goatse.cx is running IIS/5.0 on Linux. Repeat: Netcraft reports that Goatse.cx is running IIS/5.0 on Linux.
Now back to your regularly scheduled article. -
We interrupt for an important newsflash
Netcraft reports that Goatse.cx is running IIS/5.0 on Linux. Repeat: Netcraft reports that Goatse.cx is running IIS/5.0 on Linux.
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Windows Server 2003 doubles active sites since JulDATE: September 10, 2003
Windows Server 2003 doubles active sites since July; 5% were previosuly running Linux
Windows 2003 continues to increase in total hostname and active sites, with the number of active sites growing 109% to 185K since July 2003.
Notably, the number of sites switching from Linux has proportionately kept pace since July when many commentators thought the 5% of sites switched to Windows 2003 from Linux was an aberration.
And dont tell me that there are more Linux boxes switching from Windows, because we have never heard this news before.
Actually, it seems now that the Great Linux Hype wagon has had the wheels come off...
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Windows Server 2003 doubles active sites since JulWindows Server 2003 doubles active sites since July; 5% were previosuly running Linux
Why does slashdot keep rejecting my story?
Notably, the number of sites switching from Linux has proportionately kept pace since July when many commentators thought the 5% of sites switched to Windows 2003 from Linux was an aberration -
Re:IE not required
heh, you're right: "The site www.microsoft-antitrust.gov is running Microsoft-IIS/5.0 on Windows 2000." Wonder who's bright idea that was...
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Oh The Irony
Sometimes you just have to sit back and laugh.
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Re:I wonder...
According to netcraft, it does run Microsoft-IIS/5.0 on Windows 2000.
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Netcraft confirms it...
Seems that http://www.microsoft-antitrust.gov/ is running Windows
The server fingerprints as Windows 2000/Microsoft-IIS/5.0. Is it just me, or is there something wrong with this picture?
"We're a site dedicated to enumerating all the bad, evil things that Microsoft does! We're here to show that Microsoft has an unfair monopoly on operating systems and other software. They need to be punished! *cough*Oh, by the way, we run IIS on Windows...*cough*"
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yeah, why is it
running iis5 on win2k?
Netcraft result
Hey, when did Netcraft receive all these cool extra features? -
FreeBSD!
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Re:Active or passive attacks?
What bothers me is.. they're using numbers. If about 65% of servers are linux, and about 25% are windows.
http://news.netcraft.com/archives/web_server_surve y.html
Is it fair to cound the NUMBER of linux "attacks" versus the NUMBER of windows "attacks"?
Shouldnt you compare the percentage of linux servers that get "attacked" to the percentage of windows servers that get "attacked". Thats a little more accurate, but then what does that show? More attackable people use linux? I guess they didnt cound the Blaster worm, or the Welchia worm?
My point is, these numbers are meaningless in a countless number of ways, and should NEVER be used as reasons to why one OS is better than another.. which is exactly whats happening here.. in the article, in these comments. I can barely stand to read the article and cant believe people are taking it seriously and arguing over it. Use whatever the hell you want.. -
Re:Apple Records WWW presence
Well, it's not like Apple Records is doing much in tech or on the web. Their web site is kind of spartan...
I wonder what they're running that Apache 1.3.26 on...
"What is Solaris?", Alex. -
Re:Um, check your facts sport...
I'll have to disagree with that. We're not talking Apache vs. IIS here; we're talking Windows vs. LINUX. FYI, there are many Apache sites running Solaris or one of the BSDs, in addition to other OSes!
The only source I could find was from netcraft, but dated to 2001 [here]. Regardless, we can assume that say, Windows and Linux are really neck and neck as WEB SERVERS. This knocks Apache's numbers down big time, when you're just talking about Apache on Linux. So, when you look at the numbers again, it's 12,892 vs 4,626 ... and the fact that Apache has more market share has nothing to do with this, since there are about the same # of Windows web servers as Linux web servers. (Shoot, stallman.org ran FreeBSD for a really long time, and just recently switched to Linux!)
So, unless you can provide a better source that charts OS usage over time for web servers, I'll be sticking Windows Server 2003 on a box instead of RedHat for my next webserver, thank you very much.
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Web Server Survey Apache 63.98 Microsoft 23.7
NetcraftWeb Server Survey: Apache 63.98 % Microsoft 23.7
Sites running on Apache are most probably GNU/Linux or *nix servers and sites running IIS are M$ Windows boxes. So what they found is only the normal distribution of Web servers running in production on the Web.
But I do not really buy that GNU/Linux servers are as equal being cracked as M$ boxes as I'm working in a data center and mostly see the opposite of this. -
Um, check your facts sport...
Netcraf September 2003 survey says otherwise...
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Re:Article Text
I mentioned it above but here it is again - Server Count as opposed to the useless site count you referenced. Market share is about the boxes not the number of sites on a box. Microsoft is own twice as many web servers as Linux.
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Re:Yeah...
I found it - Computer Counts, Public Web Servers.
Windows 49.2%
Linux 28.5%
BSD 6.3%
Other Unix 2.4%
Other non-Unix 2.5%
Unknown 3.6%
They still do it - Netcraft Hosting Provider Server Count Available - but not for free. -
Re:Yeah...
I found it - Computer Counts, Public Web Servers.
Windows 49.2%
Linux 28.5%
BSD 6.3%
Other Unix 2.4%
Other non-Unix 2.5%
Unknown 3.6%
They still do it - Netcraft Hosting Provider Server Count Available - but not for free. -
Re:Article Text
"Microsoft deserves credit for having reduced the proportion of successful on-line hacker attacks perpetrated against Windows servers."
ha ha.... making good of their rapidly shrinking server market share... oh this is classic. Those figures almost exactly match the market shares for Apache and Microsoft
Apache 64.52%
... Microsoft 23.54%...so just who is trying to kid who with the figures???