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Re:Wrong.
They broke up. Scott Stapp will remain a piece of crap.
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Wrong.
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Re:An important nuance.If my understanding is correct, OS/2 was provided its own implementations of Windows APIs.
Initially OS/2 included Windows (literally) but later versions could used a separate install.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS/2#Windows_3.x_comp atibility
Incidentally thisAt the launch of OS/2 Warp in 1994, Patrick Stewart was to be the Master of Ceremonies; however Kate Mulgrew of the then-upcoming series Star Trek: Voyager was substituted at the last minute
Reminds me of this
http://www.offspring.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Offspr ing.woa/wa/lyrics?releaseID=430562&startingTrackNu mber=7He needs some cool tunes
Not just any will suffice
But they didn't have Ice Cube
So he bought Vanilla Ice
Now cruising in his Pinto, he sees homies as he pass
But if he looks twice
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Re:The best Dreamcast gameThis was the game for the Dreamcast. When I drive today I always have to watch my speed when I throw a copy of Ixnay On The Hombre in my car CD player.
All I want still makes me want to drive on the sidewalk at full speed.
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Re:Still working on it? Yup, and a long way to go.Two more options ----
1) Buy directly from the artist at a show. I've been doing this more and more lately, but I live in Toronto and there's no shortage of excellent live music.
2) Download directly from the artists website. This is still a fairly new option. The Offspring and Rage Against The Machine are both on the right track, buyt not quite there. Harvey Danger, on the other hadn, have it figured out. I've never listened to them much before, but I downloaded the new album (after sending them a donation, I want them to succeed in their attempt to bypass the labels!) and I love it!
Mind you, neither of these options will score you the latest-greatest Ricky Martin or Britney Spears albums, but I suppose it's a resonable sacrifice
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"Kill the president" By The Offspring
So... 'Kill the president' is bad, but "Kill the President" By The Offspring, is okay?
That's a song they did in 89/90 that's very much about the U.S. president. As far as I know, nothing ever happened to them regarding it. Unfortunatly, after 9/11, they removed the name from the discography section of the webpage--which was disappointing to me--but it's still on the album. -
Re:Slashdot
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Re:Anti-RIAA campaign?
Here's the article
WE GOT FUCKED!Article from sonicnet.com
UPDATE: Offspring Nix Plan To Offer Free Download Of New LP
Band, Sony Music compromise, will release single instead.Senior Writer Teri vanHorn reports:
The Offspring have nixed plans to offer their new album, Conspiracy of One , for free download before its release in stores.The decision, made Thursday night, ended a two-day legal standoff between the punk band and its label group, Sony Music, who disapproved of the download plan. Each side had planned to sue the other.
"We were two seconds away from having a 'Reservoir Dogs' ending to this matter," Offspring manager Jim Guerinot wrote in an e-mail to sonicnet.com on Friday. "We both had lawsuits ready to drop in New York Friday morning."
The Offspring, whose hits include "Pretty Fly (For a White Guy)" , still plan to offer a free MP3 of the album's first single, "Original Prankster," starting Friday. As part of the promotion, fans can register to win $1 million, a contest initially linked with the planned full-album offer. The single download will be available through the band's official site, offspring.com, as well as other Web outlets including MTV.com, radio station sites and retail sites. (Sonicnet.com's parent company, Viacom, also owns MTV.)
Sony Music, which owns the Offspring's label, Columbia, had planned to seek an injunction against the band and a temporary restraining order. Meanwhile, the Offspring had prepared a breach of contract countersuit. Both parties signed a standstill agreement Wednesday declaring a 48-hour waiting period and met to discuss the matter in Sony's New York offices, Guerinot said.
The Offspring finally agreed not to release the album online because the lawsuits would have been paralyzing, Guerinot said. Sony's suit would have prevented the band from proceeding with its plans to offer the album online and would've nixed the $1 million contest for fans. The Offspring's suit would have prevented the band from releasing Conspiracy of One this year and would've delayed a planned tour.
"The band and I felt that the bulk of what we were trying to accomplish happens off the single being downloaded, and to sacrifice our fan promotion, album release and tour was just too much," Guerinot said.
"It sucks," he said, "because once people get their hands on the music, fans will have to turn to Napster and other distribution methods to take a listen, but they won't be able to find the songs at www.offspring.com. We will be the only site on the Web that will not have the Offspring's new music."
The Offspring's plans to release the album online nearly a month before its Nov. 14 commercial release marked one of the bravest moves ever by a major artist in regard to digital downloading.
A statement from the band issued Sept. 15 suggested the Offspring don't believe free downloads would hurt the sales of Conspiracy of One . That philosophy contradicts what major labels, including Sony, are claiming in their pending lawsuit against Napster. "It's just sad that they were trying to do something cool for their fans and smart for them, and they got shot down by the bastards that be," 22-year old fan Jason Marks, of Colorado Springs, Colo., wrote in an e-mail. "I don't think any fans will be mad. I'm not, just disappointed. I'm sure they did what they could, but once it became clear they wouldn't be able to do shit if they tried to go ahead [with it], they had no other choice but to say, 'Screw it.' "
"They're still the coolest band in the world," Marks said.
Spokespeople for Sony did not return calls Friday.
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Re:Anti-RIAA campaign?
Here's the article
WE GOT FUCKED!Article from sonicnet.com
UPDATE: Offspring Nix Plan To Offer Free Download Of New LP
Band, Sony Music compromise, will release single instead.Senior Writer Teri vanHorn reports:
The Offspring have nixed plans to offer their new album, Conspiracy of One , for free download before its release in stores.The decision, made Thursday night, ended a two-day legal standoff between the punk band and its label group, Sony Music, who disapproved of the download plan. Each side had planned to sue the other.
"We were two seconds away from having a 'Reservoir Dogs' ending to this matter," Offspring manager Jim Guerinot wrote in an e-mail to sonicnet.com on Friday. "We both had lawsuits ready to drop in New York Friday morning."
The Offspring, whose hits include "Pretty Fly (For a White Guy)" , still plan to offer a free MP3 of the album's first single, "Original Prankster," starting Friday. As part of the promotion, fans can register to win $1 million, a contest initially linked with the planned full-album offer. The single download will be available through the band's official site, offspring.com, as well as other Web outlets including MTV.com, radio station sites and retail sites. (Sonicnet.com's parent company, Viacom, also owns MTV.)
Sony Music, which owns the Offspring's label, Columbia, had planned to seek an injunction against the band and a temporary restraining order. Meanwhile, the Offspring had prepared a breach of contract countersuit. Both parties signed a standstill agreement Wednesday declaring a 48-hour waiting period and met to discuss the matter in Sony's New York offices, Guerinot said.
The Offspring finally agreed not to release the album online because the lawsuits would have been paralyzing, Guerinot said. Sony's suit would have prevented the band from proceeding with its plans to offer the album online and would've nixed the $1 million contest for fans. The Offspring's suit would have prevented the band from releasing Conspiracy of One this year and would've delayed a planned tour.
"The band and I felt that the bulk of what we were trying to accomplish happens off the single being downloaded, and to sacrifice our fan promotion, album release and tour was just too much," Guerinot said.
"It sucks," he said, "because once people get their hands on the music, fans will have to turn to Napster and other distribution methods to take a listen, but they won't be able to find the songs at www.offspring.com. We will be the only site on the Web that will not have the Offspring's new music."
The Offspring's plans to release the album online nearly a month before its Nov. 14 commercial release marked one of the bravest moves ever by a major artist in regard to digital downloading.
A statement from the band issued Sept. 15 suggested the Offspring don't believe free downloads would hurt the sales of Conspiracy of One . That philosophy contradicts what major labels, including Sony, are claiming in their pending lawsuit against Napster. "It's just sad that they were trying to do something cool for their fans and smart for them, and they got shot down by the bastards that be," 22-year old fan Jason Marks, of Colorado Springs, Colo., wrote in an e-mail. "I don't think any fans will be mad. I'm not, just disappointed. I'm sure they did what they could, but once it became clear they wouldn't be able to do shit if they tried to go ahead [with it], they had no other choice but to say, 'Screw it.' "
"They're still the coolest band in the world," Marks said.
Spokespeople for Sony did not return calls Friday.
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Re:Anti-RIAA campaign?
If you look through the news section of the Offspring web site you'll see where they've played lots of benefits and tried to give away their last album for free on the net. Sony sued them to prevent them from giving away their album.
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Re:Tired Argument AlertEminem is not the problem. He is merely a messenger
Messenger? Hah! Eminem is just a spoiled, overrated brat. He's not a cause, he's one of the symptoms. If you want to hear some really accurate social commentary, listen very closely to the lyrics from songs by The Offspring sometime. -
Re:Do you notice how...
"There have been attempts. The Offspring come to mind, with their pro-Napster stance. (Question: are the still pro-p2p? Are they still a BAND?) But their rebellion was too early, and they were "just a punk band" so I guess few listened."
Yes, they're still alive and doing well. They have a track on the new Orange County soundtrack, actually. Anyways, they have all of their music on their site, although most of it isn't in mp3 format. -
Re:Trading copyrighted material is wrong.
The second assumption here is that the result of downloading music is always equal or less sales. The Offspring publish MP3s (some) of their songs on the internet for free downloading, and their records are selling very well. Maybe MP3s can have a positive result on sales as a means of artist promotion?
Just another option...
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A differnet take on the Offspring fiasco
I just dropped by the Offspring website, originally planning to tell them off for buckling under.
But on the Offspring site is a much more revealing news column than the RIAA approved YAHOO news item above. You know it's going to be a good read when the link is titled "We Got Fu**ed"
To sum it up, if Offspring had gone ahead with the plan to deploy the whole CD content online, Sony would have crushed them under lawsuits that would have stopped them from releasing the songs, the CD, and thier tour. So Offspring would probably have been out on the streets for a few years recovering.
The best part of the Offspring news was this paragraph:
"It sucks," he said, "because once people get thier hands on the music, fans will have to turn to Napster and other distribution methods to take a listen, but they won't be able to find the songs at www.offspring.com. We will be the only site on the Web that will not have the Offspring's new music."
So now I plan to support them by downloading the single, and probably buy there new CD. Or, perhaps I'll just napterize the whole thing and drop them ten at the Fairtunes Offspring page... -
A differnet take on the Offspring fiasco
I just dropped by the Offspring website, originally planning to tell them off for buckling under.
But on the Offspring site is a much more revealing news column than the RIAA approved YAHOO news item above. You know it's going to be a good read when the link is titled "We Got Fu**ed"
To sum it up, if Offspring had gone ahead with the plan to deploy the whole CD content online, Sony would have crushed them under lawsuits that would have stopped them from releasing the songs, the CD, and thier tour. So Offspring would probably have been out on the streets for a few years recovering.
The best part of the Offspring news was this paragraph:
"It sucks," he said, "because once people get thier hands on the music, fans will have to turn to Napster and other distribution methods to take a listen, but they won't be able to find the songs at www.offspring.com. We will be the only site on the Web that will not have the Offspring's new music."
So now I plan to support them by downloading the single, and probably buy there new CD. Or, perhaps I'll just napterize the whole thing and drop them ten at the Fairtunes Offspring page... -
A differnet take on the Offspring fiasco
I just dropped by the Offspring website, originally planning to tell them off for buckling under.
But on the Offspring site is a much more revealing news column than the RIAA approved YAHOO news item above. You know it's going to be a good read when the link is titled "We Got Fu**ed"
To sum it up, if Offspring had gone ahead with the plan to deploy the whole CD content online, Sony would have crushed them under lawsuits that would have stopped them from releasing the songs, the CD, and thier tour. So Offspring would probably have been out on the streets for a few years recovering.
The best part of the Offspring news was this paragraph:
"It sucks," he said, "because once people get thier hands on the music, fans will have to turn to Napster and other distribution methods to take a listen, but they won't be able to find the songs at www.offspring.com. We will be the only site on the Web that will not have the Offspring's new music."
So now I plan to support them by downloading the single, and probably buy there new CD. Or, perhaps I'll just napterize the whole thing and drop them ten at the Fairtunes Offspring page... -
A differnet take on the Offspring fiasco
I just dropped by the Offspring website, originally planning to tell them off for buckling under.
But on the Offspring site is a much more revealing news column than the RIAA approved YAHOO news item above. You know it's going to be a good read when the link is titled "We Got Fu**ed"
To sum it up, if Offspring had gone ahead with the plan to deploy the whole CD content online, Sony would have crushed them under lawsuits that would have stopped them from releasing the songs, the CD, and thier tour. So Offspring would probably have been out on the streets for a few years recovering.
The best part of the Offspring news was this paragraph:
"It sucks," he said, "because once people get thier hands on the music, fans will have to turn to Napster and other distribution methods to take a listen, but they won't be able to find the songs at www.offspring.com. We will be the only site on the Web that will not have the Offspring's new music."
So now I plan to support them by downloading the single, and probably buy there new CD. Or, perhaps I'll just napterize the whole thing and drop them ten at the Fairtunes Offspring page... -
Since you like hard rock...
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Since you like hard rock...
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Re:"Good way to fight"...?
I'm probably being trolled, but oh well...
Until Limp Bizkit releases a full album for free on their webpage in mp3 form, I will refuse to believe that any band is actually pro-napster and just says they are to get you god damned sheep to buy their stuff
I don't know about Limp Bizkit, but the Offspring are doing their part. Check out www.offspring.com-
Effective September 29th, The Offspring's new single, "Original Prankster," will be available in MP3 format from www.offspring.com and a myriad of other web outlets... Following this, the band's forthcoming new album, titled Conspiracy Of One, will be available in its entirety at www.offspring.com.
So, you see, some bands really are putting their money where their mouth is.But what do I know....
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Re:"Good way to fight"...?
I'm probably being trolled, but oh well...
Until Limp Bizkit releases a full album for free on their webpage in mp3 form, I will refuse to believe that any band is actually pro-napster and just says they are to get you god damned sheep to buy their stuff
I don't know about Limp Bizkit, but the Offspring are doing their part. Check out www.offspring.com-
Effective September 29th, The Offspring's new single, "Original Prankster," will be available in MP3 format from www.offspring.com and a myriad of other web outlets... Following this, the band's forthcoming new album, titled Conspiracy Of One, will be available in its entirety at www.offspring.com.
So, you see, some bands really are putting their money where their mouth is.But what do I know....
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Re:"Good way to fight"...?
I'm probably being trolled, but oh well...
Until Limp Bizkit releases a full album for free on their webpage in mp3 form, I will refuse to believe that any band is actually pro-napster and just says they are to get you god damned sheep to buy their stuff
I don't know about Limp Bizkit, but the Offspring are doing their part. Check out www.offspring.com-
Effective September 29th, The Offspring's new single, "Original Prankster," will be available in MP3 format from www.offspring.com and a myriad of other web outlets... Following this, the band's forthcoming new album, titled Conspiracy Of One, will be available in its entirety at www.offspring.com.
So, you see, some bands really are putting their money where their mouth is.But what do I know....
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Re:It's Not Support (Re:Wow...)
This would indeed be very clever of the Offspring if it were there intent. But I don't believe that it is. See http://www.offspring.com/napster.html for clarification on the band's stance on MP3/Napster. Relevant excerpt:
The Offspring view MP3 technology and programs such as Napster as being a vital and necessary means to promote music and foster better relationships with our fans.
I've already mentioned this elsewhere, but it bears repeating. The Offspring, being a punk band, are part of a long tradition of anti-corporation, anti-government, pro-public, and hyperpolitical musicians. Despite the fact that they haven't really lived up to this since Smash, and despite their move to a major label, I'm not surprised to see them supporting grassroots music distribution. They owe their longevity to it. I applaud them for doing what they feel (and I agree) is the right thing, and in such an ingenious manner.
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The Offspring (sort of) Get It
``The Offspring view MP3 technology and programs such as Napster as being a vital and necessary means to promote music and foster better relationships with our fans. The Offspring are dedicated to understanding our fans and are committed to developing the best possible Internet presence that promotes The Offspring's music and helps us stay in touch with the people who provide us with our livelihood, our devoted fans.''
After reading this quote you may think to yourself, ``Self, regardless of my individual music taste, I feel that The Offspring, when it comes to Napster, do indeed get it.'' This, of course, only holds true until you realize that they like Napster so much, that they are distributing Napster shirts, hats, stickers, et cetera by way of their site. This merchandising, though seemingly astute, is essentially forcing Napster to sue The Offspring to enforce its trademark.
If Napster chooses not to sue The Offspring it risks losing its trademark altogether. So you again think to yourself, ``Self, it sure would look foolish for Napster to be on the offensive end of a trademark dispute against a band who is being supportive. Would it really be that bad for Napster to loose its trademark?''
The answer to this internal monologue is a resounding (external), ``YES''. Here are a couple of scenarios that are possible if Napster chooses not to sue:- Bands who oppose Napster (read: Metallica), are capable of distributing ``Napster(TM) SUCKS!'' accessories.
- RIAA may release their own Napster(TM) software, which deletes, from your drives, all MP3 files containing names of artists signed by RIAA members (and then spreads itself to everyone in your Microsoft Outlook address book).
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Copyright Vs TrademarkDoesn't anyone else find it incredibly funny that the Offspring are selling Napster shirts, hats and stickers without approval from Napster. (Thus violating Napster's trademark.) This link from Wired has more details. (Who knows though, Wired could have gotten it wrong... they often do.)
It's almost as if the Offspring are saying "Sure you can violate our copyright, but we're going to violate your trademark." I think it's brilliant. It will be a horrible problem with public relations if Napster sues to protect it's trademark, but they'll lose it if they don't. Lets see how Napster feels about intellectual property when it's their own.
Here's the relavent section from Napster's license terms page:
TRADEMARKS
Trademarks owned by Napster
Napster, the Napster logo, and all other trademarks, service marks, and trade names of Napster appearing on this web site are owned by Napster. Napster's trademarks, logos, service marks, and trade names may not be used in connection with any product or service that is not Napster's, in any manner that is likely to cause confusion, or in any manner that disparages or discredits Napster. All other trademarks, product or service names, brand names, company names and/or logos appearing on this web site are the property of their respective owners.
(My emphasis in italics.)
- Of course I think I'm right. If I thought I was wrong I'd change my mind. (That doesn't apply to spelling. I know I'm wrong there.) -
Re:offspring ripping napster?From Offspring.com...
"The Offspring view MP3 technology and programs such as Napster as being a vital and necessary means to promote music and foster better relationships with our fans. The Offspring are dedicated to understanding our fans and are committed to developing the best possible Internet presence that promotes The Offspring's music and helps us stay in touch with the people who provide us with our livelihood, our devoted fans."
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Re:Offspring vs Metallica
Offspring is apparently gonna offer a song off their website soon.
I think its funny that the two (live) songs The Offspring currently have available are in RealAudio format, the anti-mp3.
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Re:Artists need to protect their livelihoodsI cannot believe that you are serious in this proposal. Ban people under 21 or 18, etc from the internet?
That would be undermining everything that the internet has come to represent: freedom of speech, and choice. The internet is currently one of the ONLY public forums in which ANYONE can publish their thoughts and beliefs.
I would like to state that I am under 18, and not only find your comment insulting, but also severly deprived of intelligence. If you enjoy using free software, such as linux, you are more than a little likely to be using software written by someone under 18. I have contributed to several free software projects, by providing bug reports, and the odd bit of code. By destroying my access to the internet, you would also destroy any feedback I could give to projects such as Mozilla.
What makes you think that just because people are under 21 they are more likely to download illegal mp3s? I have NEVER downloaded an illegal mp3. Indeed, most of the people I know trafficing mp3s are 21-25 year-old college students.
Should we ban chemistry chemistry so students can't learn how to mix explosives with common chemicals? Physics because students could possibly design and build a potato gun? Are you naive enough to believe that just because someone is young, they can't learn "dangerous information" on their own?
Why require people to take exams to get on the internet? What type of exam would you give? A standard IQ exam? A test in English language? Math? Science? Decorum? If you are not sure enough in your own beliefs to tolerate those with others, YOU should be the one reexamining yourself.
When it comes to mp3s, I know of several groups supporting napster. Offspring comes to mind, who recently in an interview gave their opinion that they, "Like to have more fans", and that mp3s are in a strange way helping.
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Pump up the volume (1990)Reading all these comments, I can't help thinking about a 1990 movie staring Christian Slater titled Pump up the Volume. If you haven't seen it yet, it's about a high school kid who copes with the world around him by running a pirate radio station. The station beomes popular amongst the outcasts and when when a depressed listener kills himself, it becomes the target of school administrators and local media, even though the station is all these students have to cope with life and school. The parallels to the Internet are chilling. The first 35 minutes of the movie are the clearest, most succinct statement of what it's like to be an outcast in high school I've ever seen or read. I'd reccomend the movie to all here.
Add a few comments for posterity...
Hold on. Treasure the friends you have now. Survive. And get your ass out of high school and into university as fast as possible. Things are so much better once you're away from school and home, in an environment you can thrive and grow in.
I'm a 24 year old ex-high school geek who got through high school practicaly as a soul-less automaton. I hit university and learned more about life, happiness and friendship in my first 4 months than I could possibly have in 5 years of hish school. I now live happily with my wife (a former "trenchcoat mafia candidate") and our baby daughter.
"Have you ever buried your face in your hands
Cause no one around you understands
Or has the slightest idea what it is that makes you be"
-- The Offspring "Have You Ever"